Serious said:

The Dance is not the only one here and in other threads name calling and flaming. It seems that on the Org, naysayers get the go card to call people fanbots and even a**holes but when a fam lashes back then it becomes a problem. and even though you don't have to be a fan, its still a fansite, the site consists of fans who appreciate Prince's work so I don't understand why people come here and get upset when people state their opinions in favor of Prince.

I don't want to get to deep in this but just to point out that the flaming comes from both the worshippers and haters alike. If people could just state their opinion without belittling others from both sides then it would be cool.

wonder505 said:

Please check the first page of this thread and you will clearly see who started the insulting on this thread. It was the fams who were posting post after post calling Van Hunt all kind of names as they seem to be unable to respect any other artist besides Prince. On this thread at least the flaming came from the worshippers . Anf it's not about opinions such as that Prince is a talented artist, sure I expect that on a Prince board, it's about insulting other artists. Sadly the fams cannot state their opinion without belittling others. I still hope one day the NPGMusicCult will open again and the fams can continue their worshipping without any negativity from people who think Prince ain't God there !

Serious said:

oh I understand that, and some of those posts in this thread was childish and they needed to be checked. But I disagree with you. Generally speaking there are some people on this board equally, who can't make a point or an unfavorable Prince comment without resorting to the name calling as well. You see it coming only from the fams here and I see it coming from both sides, especially on the Org.
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blackguitaristz said:

excellent feedback

I am convinced, people will belittle and hate each other over virtually anything. It doesn't take much. No wonder the world is so fucked up. There is nothing about this topic, Van Hunt or Prince that was worth the kind of name calling that came about in this thread. I am not above the influence or holier than thou myself, I have gotten into arguments on other boards because of personal attacks made on me and who I am going out with at the time, people have took what they thought was personal information and tried judge me from what little they know about me online. Even with that being said I don't have the energy to argue these days, you can meet the person in real life and end up becoming best friends, its stupid.


I am a huge Prince fan, I have turned plenty of people on to his music, we all know his talented is not easily matched on most levels. I am also 32 years old and its dumb to get online and defend yourself as a fan as if you were 15. I was simply trying to explore the topic deeper seeing that music is Prince's livelihood we all know he has to have hits, I am surprised people stooped to this level over nothing. I hate to see some these people get together and discuss true politics, it would probably result in a death damn.


I'm a bigger fan than you!

You worship Prince!

yeah yeah get the fuck over it

Dance¤



but, I have read my own press. Not all of it. Just enough to not be able to turn back. it's gone to my head.
I can remember once going on okayplayer-trying for the 15th time to find some new info on D'angelo's still nascent record-and "stumbled" across a thread about the Prince comparisons that have been made about ME... some of the comments on there were downright destructive. I never even imagined that you could mix the words "p**ssy" and "musician" while stating an opinion:) Some were supportive. Even fewer were constructive or managed to put forth what I would deem accurate analysis. It all made me sick. Because I knew that NOBODY really knew what the f*ck they were talking about. I am neither as perfect as the best that has been said about me nor as mediocre as the worst that's been said.


Translation: I found out just how much I sucked when I was in search of idiots that think I'm neoPrince or even half as good as DAngelo.


Don't even give those fools any energy. That's what they live for...to dismantle people and overcompensate for their personal problems...all from behind a computer screen."


Translation: I cuss people all day online and so far it hasn't worked.


Last night I was on the
computer with my son. He likes to look up biographical information on the 43 presidents. (And to think, at 5 years old, all I wanted to do was the 'robot')


Translation: I don't know how to use these things and my 5yr old who likes to chill at Disney.com helped me out.


After he'd his fill he asked if I would google "Van Hunt's Son." I pondered his reasoning and the potential for damage that I was ignoring. I was reluctant when I said, ". . .o. . .k..."


Translation: I told him to google Van Hunt and Prince because some Hunt stan told me to.


I pressed enter. and right there, at the top of the page was a heading, "Van Hunt is Prince's Son." This time it was Prince.org. "Oh, Jesus" I whispered. I had to have it.


Translation: I thought maybe there was a chance people would be licking my balls on the site.


I read the first line, "there aint sh*t about Van Hunt that's genius." Or something to that effect. My son reads almost as fast as i do. But, I caught him before he got to the curse words. I said "go play." He started to challenge the order. I put on my transformer face. He found a toy


Translation: People dug all in my ass and I didn't want my kid to realize how much I suck so I punched him and sent him to bed.



The debate seemed to be fueled by the bodyguarding of Prince's legacy and about the question of whether or not I was a good musician. They mentioned other musicians who would supposedly wipe the floor with me (even 10 year old musicians).


Translation: They must think I suck because they're mad I and my label try to associate myself with Prince and not because I actually suck. Yeah that's it.


What they don't realize is that I've played guitar with, for and beside most of their heroes. And, I doubt that any of those musicians would say that I couldn't hold my own. What they don't know is that guitar isn't even my first instrument. Piano is. What they don't know is I never set out to make improvisational solo records.


Translation: I think that tuning guitars for decent bands on tour means I'm hot. I'm sure that the people I tuned for wouldn't be cruel enough to say my music sucks. I think that mastery of the basics of guitar, piano, and drum playing means I can't suck. I think my shitty elevator music is amazing.


I fast forward through Prince's guitar solos. As a matter of fact I would be more likely to listen to Thelonious Monk play one of his tinkly excursions than I would Art Tatum. Charlie Parker could MAKE you hear modal scales in fourths-using major minor 11ths and do it before you notice that Mccoy Tyner or Oscar Peterson didn't even have his hands on the keys. but, i put my money on Johnny Hodges. slow notes by the most beautiful horn tone in the business. Ask me who's the better singer, Sam Cooke or Muddy Waters, and I'll say, obviously, Sam Cooke. But, ask me who I prefer to listen to and, well... Muddy is my man! And, if u listened to Sly's 'there's a riot goin on' you would not walk away from that record claiming that George Benson or Herbie Hancock need be worried about claims on their Godliness. But, it's MY favorite record.


Translation: Let me shit on Prince a little and downplay his rep and list my record collection of established greats and repeat stuff I heard others say about them because that will somehow give me credit and make me not SUCK.


What they don't know is that 'their man', while he is an incredible talent and entertainer, he willed his biggest hits into being. Because he HAD to be a star. He no longer writes great songs because being a great songwriter was never his goal. Being relevant was/is.


Translation: Let me shit on Prince's obvious talent and diversity and spout absolute bullshit about who he is as an artist some more in the hopes that it will build my wack ass up.


What they don't know is that Neil Young, Bob Dylan, Duke Ellington...THOSE are great songwriters. They wrote hundreds of them- consistently. Nary a dud in their entire career. What they don't know is that Michelangelo was an artist. Marlon Brando was an artiste (emphasis on the 'iste'). Each more naturally skillful than any of the people I've mentioned. Ayn Rand, Tennessee Williams... craftsmen. Read 'Fountainhead' or watch 'Night of The Iguana'. the work is more fine tuned and sharp and sophisticated than any of the people I've mentioned. They don't know that these are the benchmarks for me. Not their obsolete little argument over who has the best album of the last 20 years that was played on the now invisible and inaudible "black radio."


Translation: Blah blah blah, I'll never be as good as Prince or any other established talent so I'll spout more bs.


What they can't comprehend is the lengths I have gone to create what is my highest ideal...for their world to sneer at...and that it is quietly reaching critical immunity because of the dues that i have paid.


Translation: Shut up, people do like my shitty music. Watch watch! and you can't borrow none of my toys no more doo doo head booger face


So, kiss my a** while you decide if i'm worth your respect. it shouldn't matter to me; and, i am glad to say that it doesn't anymore. and, i will tell my child the same thing the next time he asks me to google Van Hunt's son: it's none of your business what people say about you


Translation: Please love my shitty elevator music. I'll i'll suck ya dick


details on my future coming tuesday


Translation: Check me out on myspace.
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Translation: I found out just how much I sucked when I was in search of idiots that think I'm neoPrince or even half as good as DAngelo.



Translation: Please love my shitty elevator music. I'll i'll suck ya dick



Translation: Check me out on myspace.

This thread is a piece of org history, right up there with some of the first TRC/JW threads, Tittygate, and Quaidbowl.

I doubt Van Huint could write anything halfway as clever as Little Red Corvette

or more recently the Marrying Kind.

Or make an album musically as good as the Rainbow Children.

kdj997 said

Done.

Van Hunt is being a cunt, seriously. I don't believe the story about his son typing Van Hunt's son in google at all. If he blogs, I'm sure some of his obsessed fans who visit this board probably pointed his nose in the direction. He seems to have the disorder of too much hater aid. When it comes to Prince. i.e. knocking his songwriting because he's had mainstream success. I can understand where the brother is coming from you have to find an excuse for why you're not hugely successful and his reasoning that helps him sleep at night is Prince is somehow dumbing down his music to have that success, while Van Hunt, the ole' mighty talented one refuses to compromise which is why he gets dropped from his label and don't have chart success yet. It's ridiculous. I doubt Van Huint could write anything halfway as clever as Little Red Corvette or more recently the Marrying Kind. Or make an album musically as good as the Rainbow Children.

At the same time Prince was the same way when he was younger. when asked about Jimi hendrix wasn't his response "isn't he dead" and snubbing Bob Dylan. It may not have been so much resentment from their success but it's pretty close to the same syndrome.

AlexdeParis said:

What? You got an unreleased bootleg album from Van that I ain't heard, cause you sho' couldn't be referring to any of his released albums.

dude.
NEVER read anything on the org.

there is NO sense of reality in there, and there never has been.
i go in there all the time, just to get the purple kool-aid kids all riled up and to try and drop some knowledge on them fools.

they honestly think they every fart that Prince has done is genius. and no matter how you rationally try to point out the truth, they refuse to see it.

then again, these people dress like him and find that perfectly normal behavior.

so consider the sourse, my friend.
looking forward to hanging with ya sooner than later.....

b

Someone from the Org posted this:





(My note: Who wrote this? It was you BlaqueKnight, wasn't it? LOL) j/k

Someone from the Org posted this:





(My note: Who wrote this? It was you BlaqueKnight, wasn't it? LOL) j/k

Jezebel said:

I didn't write that. Whoever did has a couple of points, though. I thought this thread had died and its back. It must be kinda boring in the Music and More section today.
Hey, Prince has some cool ass suits. There's nothing wrong with the way he dresses THESE DAYS. The GB outfits are another story.