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PrintableRodya24 said: Timmy84 said:  Egooooo trippin' ouuuuut...
You know, one good thing about this collaboration is: I do not think West is known for "sappy" songs. His tracks should sound nothing like "The Lost Children" or "Cry." Which is why I'm glad that other Chicago nut ain't producing the record. I was afraid R. Kelly was gonna try to produce Michael being trapped in Neverland's closet or something. | |
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PatrickS77 said: EmbattledWarrior said: Liner notes mean nothing unless its registered
if there are no records of the sample being used than it was used illegally, no matter if it was mentioned in the liner notes LOL, you really got issues! So you think it didn't get registered and nobody noticed that in the past 12 years until a little warrior came along? LMAO!  you laugh but the thousands of artist who have gotten ripped off are not... this has happened before you're just blinded by your love for the man, fan hag  [Edited 10/13/07 17:28pm] I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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He needs the Neptunes to produce some tracks for him, or hell even me, I'll make him some bangin' tracks. PRINCE: Always and Forever
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LittleBLUECorvette said: He needs the Neptunes to produce some tracks for him, or hell even me, I'll make him some bangin' tracks.
why don't you make me some tracks?! I need some for my EP! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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EmbattledWarrior said: PatrickS77 said: LOL, you really got issues! So you think it didn't get registered and nobody noticed that in the past 12 years until a little warrior came along? LMAO! you laugh but the thousands of artist who have gotten ripped off are not... this has happened before you're just blinded by your love for the man, fan hag
[Edited 10/13/07 17:28pm] Oh, so you seriously think he writes this shit into his liner notes and knowingly, personally, rips of Yes (or their writers)? Especially with him being a publisher as well? And you also seriously think that no one would have noticed that except you? If anything that's a record company slip up, which I highly doubt ever happened in this case! Just because you don't find anything doesn't mean shit! | |
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Hey Timmy84, this thread may go off topic!
You ready to fuck it up just in case? "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: LittleBLUECorvette said: He needs the Neptunes to produce some tracks for him, or hell even me, I'll make him some bangin' tracks.
why don't you make me some tracks?! I need some for my EP! why don't you give me some money?! I need it for some food! PRINCE: Always and Forever
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PatrickS77 said: EmbattledWarrior said: you laugh but the thousands of artist who have gotten ripped off are not... this has happened before you're just blinded by your love for the man, fan hag
[Edited 10/13/07 17:28pm] Oh, so you seriously think he writes this shit into his liner notes and knowingly, personally, rips of Yes (or their writers)? Especially with him being a publisher as well? And you also seriously think that no one would have noticed that except you? If anything that's a record company slip up, which I highly doubt ever happened in this case! Just because you don't find anything doesn't mean shit! He's a publisher... No he's not wow, thats a new one... It's somebodys slip up and its quite possible that he didn't register it himself... but remembered to give the writing creds... But there is no record of the slip up... i am not making this shit up... go check copyright.us and BMI its not there it should be... Course this could be and understatement but if i can alwayys go to BMI headquarters in manhattan and check out the hardcopy of the publishing... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: He's a publisher... No he's not wow, thats a new one... It's somebodys slip up and its quite possible that he didn't register it himself... but remembered to give the writing creds... But there is no record of the slip up... i am not making this shit up... go check copyright.us and BMI its not there it should be... Course this could be and understatement but if i can alwayys go to BMI headquarters in manhattan and check out the hardcopy of the publishing... He's not a publisher?? 'scuse me, but the last time I checked he has owned 50 percent of Sony/ATV publishing... so, that defacto makes him a publisher! I don't know, but it was Sony, who released the record, wasn't it? He (or whoever does that for him) mentioned that he has used that sample, excerpt... whatever! It's Sony's job to make that legal.. isn't it? To make sure, that they don't publish and release anything, which they aren't allowed to, right? Michael is the singer and songwriter! He has people and a record company to take care of the legal things! But yes, go to Manhattan if it bothers you that much and if you don't have a live! | |
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I love Kanye's new album so this is good news IMO. I think it's great that he and MJ are working together. "And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ 
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bboy87 said: Hey Timmy84, this thread may go off topic!
You ready to fuck it up just in case? Yeah because from what I can see, another MJ fan vs. non-MJ fan is about...to...go...down! | |
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LittleBLUECorvette said: bboy87 said: why don't you make me some tracks?! I need some for my EP! why don't you give me some money?! I need it for some food! Hell I need it to pay some bills! | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: Hey Timmy84, this thread may go off topic!
You ready to fuck it up just in case? Yeah because from what I can see, another MJ fan vs. non-MJ fan is about...to...go...down! just like this thread "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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So MJ's going to sell his musical soul and use samples of other peoples work for the basis of his songs? Awesome. | |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: Yeah because from what I can see, another MJ fan vs. non-MJ fan is about...to...go...down! just like this thread Just like every Jackson thread. | |
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WildStyle said: So MJ's going to sell his musical soul and use samples of other peoples work for the basis of his songs? Awesome.
When did your ass come back? | |
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Timmy84 said: WildStyle said: So MJ's going to sell his musical soul and use samples of other peoples work for the basis of his songs? Awesome.
When did your ass come back? who gives a fuck when he came back. When is his ass gonna leave! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: When did your ass come back? who gives a fuck when he came back. When is his ass gonna leave! Ooooh, WS, u gonna take that? 
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: who gives a fuck when he came back. When is his ass gonna leave! Ooooh, WS, u gonna take that?
WE WIN AGAIN!  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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 "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: Ooooh, WS, u gonna take that?
WE WIN AGAIN! Too sweeeeet!
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Will this thread get back on topic?
maybe.....maybe not "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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PatrickS77 said: EmbattledWarrior said: He's a publisher... No he's not wow, thats a new one... It's somebodys slip up and its quite possible that he didn't register it himself... but remembered to give the writing creds... But there is no record of the slip up... i am not making this shit up... go check copyright.us and BMI its not there it should be... Course this could be and understatement but if i can alwayys go to BMI headquarters in manhattan and check out the hardcopy of the publishing... He's not a publisher?? 'scuse me, but the last time I checked he has owned 50 percent of Sony/ATV publishing... so, that defacto makes him a publisher! I don't know, but it was Sony, who released the record, wasn't it? He (or whoever does that for him) mentioned that he has used that sample, excerpt... whatever! It's Sony's job to make that legal.. isn't it? To make sure, that they don't publish and release anything, which they aren't allowed to, right? Michael is the singer and songwriter! He has people and a record company to take care of the legal things! But yes, go to Manhattan if it bothers you that much and if you don't have a live! Ok... see i can forgive your ingnorance because the comment you just made, makes me aware that you don't understand what your reading about mj... MJ owns publishing! meaning the licenses to several songs that were published before... A publisher is a company that does the actual publishing of the song... IE BMI, ASCAP etc after you do the innitial publishing their is a statute of limitations on it before it goes up sale publically (depending on the contract circumstances) Thus your licensing rights arre forfeited to the highest buyer EG MJ/Sony MJ is not a publisher, he's a publishing holder... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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Publisher, smublisher, lemme find out Michael been listening to "Owner of a Lonely Heart"!
That's my song by the way. | |
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Timmy84 said: Publisher, smublisher, lemme find out Michael been listening to "Owner of a Lonely Heart"!
That's my song by the way. certainly better than D.S. I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: Timmy84 said: Publisher, smublisher, lemme find out Michael been listening to "Owner of a Lonely Heart"!
That's my song by the way. certainly better than D.S. They gonna getchu. | |
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You've got to admit, it will be a sad day when a Michael Jackson song consists of a musical sample a drum machine and some sound effects. At least in the past when working with "hot" producers he was able to keep his musical integrity with real compositions. I don't Kanye is capable of making a decent musical piece without the base of it being someone else's work. | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: Ok...
see i can forgive your ingnorance because the comment you just made, makes me aware that you don't understand what your reading about mj... MJ owns publishing! meaning the licenses to several songs that were published before... A publisher is a company that does the actual publishing of the song... IE BMI, ASCAP etc after you do the innitial publishing their is a statute of limitations on it before it goes up sale publically (depending on the contract circumstances) Thus your licensing rights arre forfeited to the highest buyer EG MJ/Sony MJ is not a publisher, he's a publishing holder... Hmm, is it really me, who doesn't know what he's talking about or is it you, who doesn't fully know what he's talking about? ASCAP is no publisher... it's the "American Society of Composers, Artists and Publishers"! It's like the RIAA, which is not a record company, but an association of all (most) american record companies! So ASCAP acts on behalf of, amongst others, publishers like Sony/ATV Music Publishing! Sony/ATV Music Publishing IS a publishing company, hence the name... of which Michael owns 50 % of... but whatever, it's splitting hair now! What I meant is, that Michael is somebody, who's making a substantial amount of money through publishing, both of his own and other people's work! A person who knows what it means, if somebody is using a song illegally! So I doubt he would knowingly do that himself! But go ahead... do what you have to do! I have enough of this! WildStyle said: You've got to admit, it will be a sad day when a Michael Jackson song consists of a musical sample a drum machine and some sound effects. At least in the past when working with "hot" producers he was able to keep his musical integrity with real compositions. I don't Kanye is capable of making a decent musical piece without the base of it being someone else's work.
Well, I doubt that Michael would stand for that! [Edited 10/14/07 5:23am] | |
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LittleBLUECorvette said: It better be a good original beat. I don't want Kanye sampling a J5 record, and giving it to MJ for his new album.
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bboy87 said: 
I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it | |
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