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Printablepaisleypark4 said: Timmy84 said: He sampled Yes' "Owner of a Lonely Heart" for "D.S." and the "Twilight Zone" narration for "Threatened". See I like how Mike does his sample on DS..its almost like I cant notice them at all because there is still so much original music in it already. Threatened I dont count. He chopped those samples up so that he made a narration. That was one of the most creative uses of voice sampling I ever heard 
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I'm actually okay with this. After listening to Graduation, I expect good results from this collaboration. "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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3121Addict said: sad
all the people working with mj because he is a has-been and needs all the help he can get i respect prince more now than ever.....at least he did PE on his own and it sucked but at least he owns his own turds mj is a joke If Michael was such a has-been, no one would want to work with him. so with that in mind,  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: 3121Addict said: sad
all the people working with mj because he is a has-been and needs all the help he can get i respect prince more now than ever.....at least he did PE on his own and it sucked but at least he owns his own turds mj is a joke If Michael was such a has-been, no one would want to work with him. so with that in mind,  | |
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bboy87 said: I'm actually okay with this. After listening to Graduation, I expect good results from this collaboration.
If he can give him a soulful version of "Big Brother" or "Can't Tell Me Nothin'" (under a different title and new sound and new song sans samples), I'm okay with it too. There's some fans who don't want MJ to work with Kanye because of his attitude. Since when does his snotty attitude has to do with anything?  | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: I'm actually okay with this. After listening to Graduation, I expect good results from this collaboration.
If he can give him a soulful version of "Big Brother" or "Can't Tell Me Nothin'" (under a different title and new sound and new song sans samples), I'm okay with it too. There's some fans who don't want MJ to work with Kanye because of his attitude. Since when does his snotty attitude has to do with anything? Thank you. There are fans who are happy that he may be working with Akon  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: If he can give him a soulful version of "Big Brother" or "Can't Tell Me Nothin'" (under a different title and new sound and new song sans samples), I'm okay with it too. There's some fans who don't want MJ to work with Kanye because of his attitude. Since when does his snotty attitude has to do with anything? Thank you. There are fans who are happy that he may be working with Akon A new Michael album with Kanye will definitely be more interesting than Akon, lol. | |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: If he can give him a soulful version of "Big Brother" or "Can't Tell Me Nothin'" (under a different title and new sound and new song sans samples), I'm okay with it too. There's some fans who don't want MJ to work with Kanye because of his attitude. Since when does his snotty attitude has to do with anything? Thank you. There are fans who are happy that he may be working with Akon Please tell me that you are making this up. AKON?  | |
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Timmy84 said: bboy87 said: Thank you. There are fans who are happy that he may be working with Akon A new Michael album with Kanye will definitely be more interesting than Akon, lol. A new album with productions by: Will.I.Am ?uestlove Brook D'Leau(from J*Davey) Kanye and Rick Rubin That would be a dream 
yea bboy, you keep dreamin.....HAHAHAHAHAHA "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Rodya24 said: bboy87 said: Thank you. There are fans who are happy that he may be working with Akon Please tell me that you are making this up. AKON? I'm not making it up 
He's doing some stuff with Mike, BUT knowing good ole MJ, it might not show up on the album here's hoping "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: A new Michael album with Kanye will definitely be more interesting than Akon, lol. A new album with productions by: Will.I.Am ?uestlove Brook D'Leau(from J*Davey) Kanye and Rick Rubin That would be a dream
yea bboy, you keep dreamin.....HAHAHAHAHAHA That would be great.  | |
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Some things never change. Why am I not surprised that Mj would hire the top 20 current producers 4 his new project? | |
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NAH. THAT'S WHAT MADONNA'S DOING
Graycap23 said: Some things never change. Why am I not surprised that Mj would hire the top 20 current producers 4 his new project? | |
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papaaisaway said: NAH. THAT'S WHAT MADONNA'S DOING
Graycap23 said: Some things never change. Why am I not surprised that Mj would hire the top 20 current producers 4 his new project? That is what they both do. | |
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God please let the off the wall comparison be true!
Why doesnt Akon just save some time and money and produce one song for Michael, Whitney, and Madonna can rap on it? I'll leave it alone babe...just be me | |
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I'd like to say Fuck Michael Jackson and Kanye West...
but the real reason i posted on this thread to reply to the reference oof D.S. sampling Owner of a lonely heart, its not a sample, Its just slash (or mj for that matter ) playing a similar riff... Its certainly not registered as a sample, because i checked the sample copyright database... And if it is a sample than MJ owes Yes some fees, cause he didnt register it ... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: I'd like to say Fuck Michael Jackson and Kanye West...
but the real reason i posted on this thread to reply to the reference oof D.S. sampling Owner of a lonely heart, its not a sample, Its just slash (or mj for that matter ) playing a similar riff... Its certainly not registered as a sample, because i checked the sample copyright database... And if it is a sample than MJ owes Yes some fees, cause he didnt register it ... I saw it on the liner notes on "HIStory" but I wasn't too sure if it was a sample or an interpolation replayed or something like that. | |
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Graycap23 said: Some things never change. Why am I not surprised that Mj would hire the top 20 current producers 4 his new project?
He isn't working with: Rich Harrison Timbaland Bryan Michael Cox Jermaine Dupri and whoever is big right now..... so he has about 3% [Edited 10/13/07 14:17pm] "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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i'll check the copyright history of Owner of a Lonely heart cause if it is a recreation of the song,
than MJ doesn't have to give up fees etc... or maybe the sample is just way too short to make a valid sample of the song... cause it has really no harmonic fingerprint I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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alright i cheecked it, so far no reference to owner of a lonely heart in the copyright info
i did find something weird Michael Registered D.S. and a variety songs under the title "I took an overdose & 789 other titles." i'll check BMG for the publishing info... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: alright i cheecked it, so far no reference to owner of a lonely heart in the copyright info
i did find something weird Michael Registered D.S. and a variety songs under the title "I took an overdose & 789 other titles." i'll check BMG for the publishing info... That is weird, lol. | |
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I checked ascap, BMG, Ump,Sesac, and michaels not on any of them,
he has to be on BMI, but the site is down still no record of the sample... I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: I checked ascap, BMG, Ump,Sesac, and michaels not on any of them,
he has to be on BMI, but the site is down still no record of the sample... He is. Mijac Music is under the BMI label. | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: I checked ascap, BMG, Ump,Sesac, and michaels not on any of them,
he has to be on BMI, but the site is down still no record of the sample... And what's your fucking point?? On the liner notes of HIStory it says: "DS" contains an excerpt from "Owner of a lonely heart" Performed by Yes Composed by Trevor Rabin, Jon Anderson, Chris Squire and Trevor Horn Published by Affirmative Music, admin. by Warner-Tamerlane Publishing Inc. (BMI) and Unforgettable Songs (PRS) Courtesy of Atlantic Records Wow, I guess I most be pretty bored to actually respond! | |
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PatrickS77 said: EmbattledWarrior said: I checked ascap, BMG, Ump,Sesac, and michaels not on any of them,
he has to be on BMI, but the site is down still no record of the sample... And what's your fucking point?? On the liner notes of HIStory it says: "DS" contains an excerpt from "Owner of a lonely heart" Performed by Yes Composed by Trevor Rabin, Jon Anderson, Chris Squire and Trevor Horn Published by Affirmative Music, admin. by Warner-Tamerlane Publishing Inc. (BMI) and Unforgettable Songs (PRS) Courtesy of Atlantic Records Wow, I guess I most be pretty bored to actually respond! Liner notes mean nothing unless its registered if there are no records of the sample being used than it was used illegally, no matter if it was mentioned in the liner notes I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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EmbattledWarrior said: PatrickS77 said: And what's your fucking point?? On the liner notes of HIStory it says: "DS" contains an excerpt from "Owner of a lonely heart" Performed by Yes Composed by Trevor Rabin, Jon Anderson, Chris Squire and Trevor Horn Published by Affirmative Music, admin. by Warner-Tamerlane Publishing Inc. (BMI) and Unforgettable Songs (PRS) Courtesy of Atlantic Records Wow, I guess I most be pretty bored to actually respond! Liner notes mean nothing unless its registered if there are no records of the sample being used than it was used illegally, no matter if it was mentioned in the liner notes and i might just report it...
cause i'm an asshole I am a Rail Road, Track Abandoned
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badujunkie said: God please let the off the wall comparison be true!
Why doesnt Akon just save some time and money and produce one song for Michael, Whitney, and Madonna can rap on it? Well, back to the topic on hand... (hilarious that I am the one sticking to the subject matter) I think West produced Janet Jackson's "I Want You." I like that song. I hope his collaboration with Michael turns out alright. Too huge egos in one studio. Should be interesting... | |
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EmbattledWarrior said: Liner notes mean nothing unless its registered
if there are no records of the sample being used than it was used illegally, no matter if it was mentioned in the liner notes LOL, you really got issues! So you think it didn't get registered and nobody noticed that in the past 12 years until a little warrior came along? LMAO!  | |
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Rodya24 said: badujunkie said: God please let the off the wall comparison be true!
Why doesnt Akon just save some time and money and produce one song for Michael, Whitney, and Madonna can rap on it? Well, back to the topic on hand... (hilarious that I am the one sticking to the subject matter) I think West produced Janet Jackson's "I Want You." I like that song. I hope his collaboration with Michael turns out alright. Two huge egos in one studio. Should be interesting...  Egooooo trippin' ouuuuut...
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Timmy84 said: Rodya24 said: Well, back to the topic on hand... (hilarious that I am the one sticking to the subject matter) I think West produced Janet Jackson's "I Want You." I like that song. I hope his collaboration with Michael turns out alright. Two huge egos in one studio. Should be interesting... Egooooo trippin' ouuuuut...
You know, one good thing about this collaboration is: I do not think West is known for "sappy" songs. His tracks should sound nothing like "The Lost Children" or "Cry." | |
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