estelle81 said:

And the parents!! If they're letting their little girls get life lessons from that no panties wearing train wreck then someone calling her fat is going to be the least of their troubles!

lastdecember said:

That was because there was only speculation that she was a crack head. She was even in denial about it! (Remember that Barbara Walters interview). She was denying it, but her appearance was saying otherwise so thats all people could focus on. Now...it's common knowledge...she's a straight up crack head!

JustErin said:

A hit dig will holler.

I'm sure you'll get over it.

ehuffnsd said:

Is that the responsibility of the media to shelter people's children. I would hope that there would open communication between the hypothetical girl and her hypothetical parents. Parents should raise their children with their morals and values and not allow the media to do it.
[Edited 9/10/07 20:11pm]

PurpleCharm said:

I wouldn't give ehuffnsd and lastdecember the pleasure of answering them, because that's what they want to do -- namely, divert the thread by trolling and talking about everything except Britney Spears' performance.

Najee said:

am i missing something in this conversation?!?

have i said it was a good performance? NO

have i agreed that it sucked? YES

do i object to people calling Britney fat or using her weight as reason why it sucked? YES

why?

can you not see the connection between media's ideals of beauty and eating disorders?

if a girl saw the picture of Britney had the same body, which according to some on here would be hot if was any other girl but Britney Spears who is a famous singer would be hot, saw people in the media calling her fat or jiggly and than deciding she needed to starve herself or stuff a finger down her throat or take pills.

PurpleCharm said:

how many teens have honest and open discussions with their parents?

and yes as a society we need to take a look at how our ideal of beauty is affecting people.

why do you think certain cities are now placing bans on what type of models can be used in runway shows.

ehuffnsd said:

Just answer this question:



Which one is you and which one is lastdecember?

JustErin said:

I agree with you on that Erin

Najee said:

let me get your logic straight.

talking about Britney's weight and it effects on girls not ok.


talking about how Beyonce wishes she was born Latina is ok.


the difference is?!?

alright now everybody...if we don't calm down (myself included) i am moving this thread to p&r for the heck of it.

luv4u said:

I am by no means a Brittany fan, not that there is anything wrong with that.
I thought her dancing skills lastnight were pathetic, and she can not even lip sync well. After that, I will say...she has a beautiful face though. She just needs to get her act together and a better hair weave wouldn't hurt.

sosgemini said:

would save me the trouble of starting a thread over there, however i'd have to edit my mod comment since you aren't one over there.

and it won't get as much attention unless you change the title to something about aborting Britney's gay baby fat.

I agree..it's dangerous to say Britney is fat because she's not fat. And even if she were, it's really beside the point. It was really more her overall performance was not good, and she didn't even sing or dance. She just stood there for the most part.

In regard to her appearance, I would just say her costume looked one size too small. If she wanted to wear a two-piece, it may have looked better if it had fit her better.

Anyway.. apparently MTV got a boost in ratings due to her performance? I read that somewhere. So I guess execs got what it paid for--buzz at Britney's expense. For me, it's just so sad to see somebody being taken advantage of due to their circumstances whether they be emotional, financial, personal..professional--whatever. But I guess it's par for the course.

ehuffnsd said:

Very true and we cant forget that marvelous thread about Jon Norris coming out of the closet, or Alica Keys being gay because she sang a George Michael song, this forum should be renamed to double standards.

http://tmzcorp.com:8080/a...ts/60/view

This is great, what non orgers are saying!!!!

luv4u said:

Yeah, but 99.9% of Americans can't afford personal trainers, personal chefs, and personal stylists (or plastic surgery). Sorry, but celebrities should always be in shape because they rely on their images to sell their products...shit, they ain't doctors or lawyers. It's not like they have to be geniuses to make a living. The entertainment industry is 80% image and 20% talent, sometimes talent outnumbers the image...sometimes.. I don't like it or agree with it, but I'm not in the entertainment business so, tough cookies for all those people...they get millions of dollars for their heartache ; they'll be alright. She has no reason to be this untoned if she has been dancing. I see soo many pics of her going to dance classes. What is she doing in there...Drinking? That's a beer-gut right there. She was more toned when she did those mini concerts than in this pic. I don't really care that the girl is out-of-shape, but why would she wear this outfit? It's not flattering at all, plus, it's really nothing new. If she had walked out wearing a suit and her real hair and stopped this fake bullshit, I would have given her kudos, but she's doing the same ole, same ole. Nobody likes to watch a aging pop star who does the same routine over and over...that's why Madonna, Prince, and MJ have re-invented themselves soo many times. Britney has been doing the same trashy image since she came out 8 years ago. It just gets worse ever year. It's boring and sad that she's settling for this. Just soo all these people don't think I'm just picking on Britney's poor outfit choice and need for some crunches, I'll say that I thought Beyonce looked a little out of shape as did Alicia Keys, while all the guys, ie Timbaland, Dr. Dre, etc all looked pretty toned. I guess it's a role reversal, which if fine by me....let the guys deal will self-image for a while so the ladies can take a brake. Anyway, sorry, but she was wrong for this outfit...she could have been a size 0 and I would say the same thing...she needs to grow out of this phase and learn that wearing clothes can be just as fun as being half-naked.

Moonbeam said:

Bang on! I don't think she's ready for a comeback either.

estelle81 said:

Yeah all true and everything but we still forget that despite anyones status of celebrity they are no different than us. I think we all need to remember that, sure they got money but what the hell does money cure? apparently nothing judging from the amount celebs that cant handle their lives. Im not making excuses for anyone, but we cant keep giving celebs this "throne" that they dont deserve, look they wake up,go to sleep eat and take a crap just like anyone else, tehy have days when they wanna go say Fuck you world just like we do. We make it seem like we are owed something from them, if thats what anyone thinks, that a celebrity owes them something than we are the ones who have lost it.
[Edited 9/10/07 19:52pm]

I don't know what's worse Britney's performance or her fans excusses

reaction from a Britney fan


http://www.youtube.com/wa...p%2Ecom%2F
[Edited 9/10/07 20:01pm]

ehuffnsd said:

Why are you dragging in another topic that has nothing to do with her performance bombing??

If you want to discuss "eating disorders", why don't you start a topic about that in GD.

Please, let's stay on topic

ehuffnsd said:

Oh really?

luv4u said:

i was taught when you see something wrong like calling someone fat who isn't than point it out.

luv4u said:

Ok then wipe out the Beyonce "Latina" thread and the ALicia Keys "gay thread" or the Jon Norris thread (why is he even listed in Music) i mean come on already. And Kanye's thread about not winning an award and boycotting the award show, how is that even about "music"?

lastdecember said:

But many times, it's the celebrities who think they are different from everyone else. A friend of mine met Shaq and he wanted her to let him in after hours because she worked at Ripley's Believe It or Not, He felt that because he was a celebrity, that she would do it. She told him, "No, sorry, but we're closed for the night." He had no consideration for her and maybe she wanted to go home after a long days work. He even used the "Don't you know who I am" line on her. Unfortunately, it's celebrities who distance themselves from non-celebrities 9 times out of 10. That's not all celebrities, but I think a majority of these people wouldn't eat off my table because I don't have $500 plates and $300 silverware, which is fine by me, because most of them come and go like newspapers anyway. Plus, I have seen many girls walking in the mall wearing stuff like this and I feel the exact same way about them. It's not attractive to look like you sell it on the corner for $50 a pop, unless they do; in which case, do what cha do . Trust me, I know they are normal people, so when they get caught doing dirt and get off, that makes me even more pissed, because they are just normal people who happen to have money and fame. Celebrities rely on their fans to make them rich and famous, so they technically owe it to those fans to give them a good show...especially since it is what they do for a living. I expect my doctor to give me the best care; why shouldn't I expect a celebrity who I have finanically supported to give me the best show? That's what they get paid to do. But, that's just my on the matter.

shortstuff45220 said:

OMG. That's on some Michael Jackson fam-type stuff.

lastdecember said:

or the 4 threads about Michael's image complext that will appear this week

or the 5 threads about Michael's financial problems that will appear this week

ehuffnsd said:

Good point. Why are these threads never moved to General Discussion? They have nothing to do with music.