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Celebration 2025 Early Bird Tickets... $1150 a piece for VIP tickets, or $600 a piece for general admission tickets where you don't even get to hear unreleased music. But you do get access to "The Vault & Future Plans" panel, where they'll tell you about all the BIG YEAR that 2026 will be! |
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Reply #1 posted 04/08/25 5:32am
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The vault and future plans panel would really be quite useful if the panelists were there to explain honestly and listen, and questions were open to everyone.
I think at this point it would not be unfair to suggest that this is not likely to be the case. |
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Reply #2 posted 04/08/25 6:50am
mattosgood 
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andrewm7new said:
The vault and future plans panel would really be quite useful if the panelists were there to explain honestly and listen, and questions were open to everyone.
I think at this point it would not be unfair to suggest that this is not likely to be the case.
why do you say that?
they have taken questions in the past and Mr Spicer was very approachable last year and would chat about this |
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Reply #3 posted 04/08/25 9:33am
Trufunksoulja 
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TBH Vault and Future Plans seems very interesting.
I mean this is the first time they are going to talk about it openly.
Hopefully there will be some critical fans in the audience and that they get a chance to voice their opinions.
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Reply #5 posted 04/08/25 10:15am
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leecaldon said:
When do they normally announce the lineup?
Its Morris Day and the Time, The Family and Jesse Johnson.
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Reply #6 posted 04/08/25 11:35am
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Reply #7 posted 04/08/25 1:06pm
themanfromnept une 
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The thing you have to pay 600/1100$ to know the future plans of the vault maybe is itself part of the plan. |
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Reply #8 posted 04/08/25 1:40pm
andrewm7new 
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mattosgood said:
andrewm7new said:
The vault and future plans panel would really be quite useful if the panelists were there to explain honestly and listen, and questions were open to everyone.
I think at this point it would not be unfair to suggest that this is not likely to be the case.
why do you say that?
they have taken questions in the past and Mr Spicer was very approachable last year and would chat about this
please don't misunderstand me, I truly hope for an open portal where the future plans of the estate can be discussed openly and honestly with fans from all over the world.
Something like a Reddit AMA could potentially facilitate this for those of us who can't travel to Minneapolis to ask the questions or listen to the responses.
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Reply #9 posted 04/08/25 2:12pm
bozojones 
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themanfromneptune said:
The thing you have to pay 600/1100$ to know the future plans of the vault maybe is itself part of the plan.
Bingo. I can't bring myself to be optimistic about their "plans" after seeing how they've run the estate for the last 2-3 years.
People seem to have forgotten about Vault Series Vol. 1 from 2023, which never got any kind of follow-up. They know they don't have to release anything of significance as long as people keep shelling out $1100+ to come hear an hour's worth of unreleased material every summer.
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Reply #10 posted 04/08/25 2:39pm
ElGorillos 
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andrewm7new said:
mattosgood said:
why do you say that?
they have taken questions in the past and Mr Spicer was very approachable last year and would chat about this
please don't misunderstand me, I truly hope for an open portal where the future plans of the estate can be discussed openly and honestly with fans from all over the world.
Something like a Reddit AMA could potentially facilitate this for those of us who can't travel to Minneapolis to ask the questions or listen to the responses.
This could be what "Fam Partnerships" means, but it remains to be seen.
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Reply #11 posted 04/08/25 3:44pm
FJODOR 
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it would be interesting to know how many people visit these celebrations.
i still can't believe this is the cash cow that many here seem to think it is.
400 people? 500 people? from some of the reviews I read previour years it didn't seem like paisley park was packed to the rafters.
after costs and everything they might make, what 300K ?
still, nice change, but nothing to compete with a good release in terms of (small but steady) income from streaming/licensing and (bigger) income from the initial release on various (collectable) formats.
if 300K from a celebration is worth it to keep doing them and the estate thinks that is nice change, why not then turn that change into more $ by investing a chunk of that in pressing limited vinyls of unreleased albums,
releasing a limited run of 10.000 Camille albums on vinyl for 25 bucks each would also amount to about 200K profit, right?
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Reply #12 posted 04/08/25 4:20pm
SquirrelMeat 

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FJODOR said:
it would be interesting to know how many people visit these celebrations.
i still can't believe this is the cash cow that many here seem to think it is.
400 people? 500 people? from some of the reviews I read previour years it didn't seem like paisley park was packed to the rafters.
after costs and everything they might make, what 300K ?
still, nice change, but nothing to compete with a good release in terms of (small but steady) income from streaming/licensing and (bigger) income from the initial release on various (collectable) formats.
if 300K from a celebration is worth it to keep doing them and the estate thinks that is nice change, why not then turn that change into more $ by investing a chunk of that in pressing limited vinyls of unreleased albums,
releasing a limited run of 10.000 Camille albums on vinyl for 25 bucks each would also amount to about 200K profit, right?
Last year looked about 1000. That was down on about 1500 that went to the first one in 2017.
I've got a gut feel it will be down in numbers this year. The Estate run version was far less value for money that the earlier ones run by the Graceland people. . |
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Reply #13 posted 04/08/25 4:42pm
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ElGorillos said:
andrewm7new said:
please don't misunderstand me, I truly hope for an open portal where the future plans of the estate can be discussed openly and honestly with fans from all over the world.
Something like a Reddit AMA could potentially facilitate this for those of us who can't travel to Minneapolis to ask the questions or listen to the responses.
This could be what "Fam Partnerships" means, but it remains to be seen.
That is very positive thinking, but, again, who are the gate-keepers who will choose the "right kind of fans" in??? "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" |
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Reply #14 posted 04/08/25 7:56pm
ElGorillos 
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nayroo2002 said:
ElGorillos said:
This could be what "Fam Partnerships" means, but it remains to be seen.
That is very positive thinking, but, again, who are the gate-keepers who will choose the "right kind of fans" in???
Who knows what this really means until it is revealed. All I know, is that is was mention below the "Panel Discussions/-The Vault & Future Plans" 'umbrella', and it got me thinking about something similar to what andrewm7new wrote.
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Reply #15 posted 04/08/25 9:08pm
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Trufunksoulja said: TBH Vault and Future Plans seems very interesting. I mean this is the first time they are going to talk about it openly. Hopefully there will be some critical fans in the audience and that they get a chance to voice their opinions.
I think it's a good idea to start talking about future plans but we'll see what they have to say. I'm not that impressed with how the current estate has handled things so far, but I do think they want to release a few more SDEs before they move on to something else. U are now an official member of the New Power Generation
Welcome 2 The Dawn
Free the SDE now! |
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Reply #16 posted 04/09/25 2:02am
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I hope it tanks, thereby sending a message that's loud and clear to those two boneheads. |
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Reply #17 posted 04/09/25 6:26am
love2thenines2 003 
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MIRvmn1 said: Trufunksoulja said: TBH Vault and Future Plans seems very interesting. I mean this is the first time they are going to talk about it openly. Hopefully there will be some critical fans in the audience and that they get a chance to voice their opinions.
I think it's a good idea to start talking about future plans but we'll see what they have to say. I'm not that impressed with how the current estate has handled things so far, but I do think they want to release a few more SDEs before they move on to something else. Until now the Estate has never announced anything during a Celebration so I expect nothing ! |
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Reply #18 posted 04/09/25 9:40am
FJODOR 
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SquirrelMeat said:
FJODOR said:
it would be interesting to know how many people visit these celebrations.
i still can't believe this is the cash cow that many here seem to think it is.
400 people? 500 people? from some of the reviews I read previour years it didn't seem like paisley park was packed to the rafters.
after costs and everything they might make, what 300K ?
still, nice change, but nothing to compete with a good release in terms of (small but steady) income from streaming/licensing and (bigger) income from the initial release on various (collectable) formats.
if 300K from a celebration is worth it to keep doing them and the estate thinks that is nice change, why not then turn that change into more $ by investing a chunk of that in pressing limited vinyls of unreleased albums,
releasing a limited run of 10.000 Camille albums on vinyl for 25 bucks each would also amount to about 200K profit, right?
Last year looked about 1000. That was down on about 1500 that went to the first one in 2017.
I've got a gut feel it will be down in numbers this year. The Estate run version was far less value for money that the earlier ones run by the Graceland people.
1000 people is still a pretty nice amount of $ made from tickets at those prices.
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Reply #19 posted 04/09/25 9:50am
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FJODOR said:
SquirrelMeat said:
Last year looked about 1000. That was down on about 1500 that went to the first one in 2017.
I've got a gut feel it will be down in numbers this year. The Estate run version was far less value for money that the earlier ones run by the Graceland people.
1000 people is still a pretty nice amount of $ made from tickets at those prices.
It is.
Gut feel is its about to really drop off. It didn't sell out last year and the value proposition is dropping, especially for international travellers.
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Reply #20 posted 04/09/25 2:59pm
DotsofU 

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SquirrelMeat said:
FJODOR said:
1000 people is still a pretty nice amount of $ made from tickets at those prices.
It is.
Gut feel is its about to really drop off. It didn't sell out last year and the value proposition is dropping, especially for international travellers.
Agreed - they just do not offer enough. The panelists are re-hashing the same stories and they show us footage we have already seen! NUTS!
It's a disappointing mess just like everything else they touch.
This should be so EASY.. but they make it HARD to remain interested. |
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Reply #21 posted 04/09/25 3:59pm
Vannormal 
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Trufunksoulja said:
TBH Vault and Future Plans seems very interesting.
I mean this is the first time they are going to talk about it openly.
Hopefully there will be some critical fans in the audience and that they get a chance to
Why is this interesting?
They can tell what needs to be told in less than 2 minutes, for the whole world, in a simple 'announcement', even for the coming years.
Why a panel?
Maybe they don't know what they're doing and are expecting some input from the audience?
Goodgod.
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) |
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Reply #22 posted 04/09/25 4:03pm
Vannormal 
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"Join us on April 21st 2025 as we celebrate the life of Prince Rogers Nelson"
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts." (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972) |
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Reply #23 posted 04/09/25 5:27pm
nayroo2002 

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Origami Dove is a great band name! "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" |
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Reply #24 posted 04/09/25 6:27pm
FJODOR 
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we're sailing awful close to sanddollar water here  |
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Reply #25 posted 04/09/25 7:43pm
WhisperingDand elions 

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They couldn't even call it "The Bird" tickets?
I wish we could unite as a community and boycott these, but, yeah, never gonna happen.
Prince fans are the opposite, all about elite status, pecking order, troo fan dividers, hoarding, etc.
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Reply #26 posted 04/09/25 9:22pm
bozojones 
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Vannormal said:
Trufunksoulja said:
TBH Vault and Future Plans seems very interesting.
I mean this is the first time they are going to talk about it openly.
Hopefully there will be some critical fans in the audience and that they get a chance to
Why is this interesting?
They can tell what needs to be told in less than 2 minutes, for the whole world, in a simple 'announcement', even for the coming years.
Why a panel?
Maybe they don't know what they're doing and are expecting some input from the audience?
Goodgod.
They get plenty of input from fans online, they just choose to ignore everyone who doesn't kiss their ass for every poor business move they make.
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Reply #27 posted 04/09/25 10:43pm
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WhisperingDandelions said:
They couldn't even call it "The Bird" tickets?
I wish we could unite as a community and boycott these, but, yeah, never gonna happen.
Prince fans are the opposite, all about elite status, pecking order, troo fan dividers, hoarding, etc.
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Reply #28 posted 04/09/25 10:59pm
GaryMF 

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What is the diff between "Purple" and "Gold" ticket? Looks like teh same bullets just in a different order.
And the GA just doesn't get the guided tour or the VIP lunch? |
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Reply #29 posted 04/09/25 11:41pm
bozojones 
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GaryMF said:
What is the diff between "Purple" and "Gold" ticket? Looks like teh same bullets just in a different order.
And the GA just doesn't get the guided tour or the VIP lunch?
From what I remember, the only real difference between Purple & Gold were the days of certain events. Also, GA doesn't get to hear the unreleased vault music, because only real fans (aka wealthy enough to cough up $1150-1300) are worthy of that 
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