there's more than this. for instance, as others have said, standing at the altar is there for a 2023 release. my gut tells me that if they're releasing all p vocal versions of associated artist tracks, then we should be due for quite a lot? if there aren't 5 or 6 discs of vault stuff, i'll be disappointed.

lustmealways said:

there's more than this. for instance, as others have said, standing at the altar is there for a 2023 release. my gut tells me that if they're releasing all p vocal versions of associated artist tracks, then we should be due for quite a lot? if there aren't 5 or 6 discs of vault stuff, i'll be disappointed.

also, things like "Uh Huh", "Small Bright Light", "Gett Off's Cousin", "Do U Wanna Rock", "Stroke"
etc should logically be included on this set. Some of the Carmen songs date back to this period as
well, don't they?

a lot of stuff to pick from

LILpoundCAKE said:

lustmealways said:

there's more than this. for instance, as others have said, standing at the altar is there for a 2023 release. my gut tells me that if they're releasing all p vocal versions of associated artist tracks, then we should be due for quite a lot? if there aren't 5 or 6 discs of vault stuff, i'll be disappointed.

also, things like "Uh Huh", "Small Bright Light", "Gett Off's Cousin", "Do U Wanna Rock", "Stroke"
etc should logically be included on this set. Some of the Carmen songs date back to this period as
well, don't they?

a lot of stuff to pick from

It seems there are no more data from PPL warner base about this recent new added data....i suspect that there will not be more songs from the sessions ?

love2thenines2003 said:

It seems there are no more data from PPL warner base about this recent new added data....i suspect that there will not be more songs from the sessions ?

Doubtful. Just looking up the "2023 remasters" that should be there, they're not there. ie: try looking up money don't matter - the 2023 release isn't listed. i think, for whatever reason, some stuff just isn't listed.

lustmealways said:

Doubtful. Just looking up the "2023 remasters" that should be there, they're not there. ie: try looking up money don't matter - the 2023 release isn't listed. i think, for whatever reason, some stuff just isn't listed.

this is the denial phase.

lustmealways said:

love2thenines2003 said:

It seems there are no more data from PPL warner base about this recent new added data....i suspect that there will not be more songs from the sessions ?

Doubtful. Just looking up the "2023 remasters" that should be there, they're not there. ie: try looking up money don't matter - the 2023 release isn't listed. i think, for whatever reason, some stuff just isn't listed.

Has anyone tried this same method to check for the tracks that were previewed at the celebration 23,
you know "The Rock That Keeps Rollin'" and "Della Blackheart" etc?

It's be interesting to see if they also have a 2023 date to them.

you guys already know i'm gonna be bumping diamonds and pearls on the ride to work this morning

These two are also listed:

USRH12200085 Things Have Gotta Change (Tony M Rap) [2023 Remaster]

USRH12200093 Thunder (DJ Fade) [2023 Remaster]

LILpoundCAKE said:

wondering if "Alice Through The Looking Glass" could be a cover of this stevie nicks song,
that was released in 1989.



https://www.youtube.com/w...o0tLq_A-wc

[Edited 8/19/23 6:04am]

bizzie said:

ShellyMcG said:

Can we assume that Tip O My Tongue is the original Prince recording of the El Debarge song? Or is there a chance that it's a different song entirely?

yeah these all should be Prince OG versions of songs he "gave away" during the era:

lustmealways said:

Martika's Kitchen 4:21
Spirit 4:32
Open Book 4:59
Get Blue 4:43
Tip O' My Tongue 4:08
The Voice 4:42
Pain 5:57
My Tender Heart 5:06

themanfromneptune said:

bizzie said:

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Oh for fuck's sake, Originals was a one-off designed to fulfill the dumbass TIDAL contract. Hence the inclusion of the Martika track on that, even though it didn't fit: Jay-Z wanted it.

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No, the Estate has always omitted to insert other demos of songs given to others in all the SDE products citing the exclusion for a possible Originals 2, so no, a plan for a continuation of the project in a certain period of management must have been there, even if only at the level of possible output.

Bingo. It was at least ruminated on with the old Estate if this new tracklist is any indication.

This one is chalk-full of "Originals" whereas 1999 SDE and SOTT SDE had none unless you count the Bonnie Rait demo, which had no Bonnie Rait official release.

In comparison this has 8 "originals" despite him having like 4x as many songs "given away" during those previous eras that intentionally included none.

WhisperingDandelions said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

themanfromneptune said:

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No, the Estate has always omitted to insert other demos of songs given to others in all the SDE products citing the exclusion for a possible Originals 2, so no, a plan for a continuation of the project in a certain period of management must have been there, even if only at the level of possible output.

Bingo. It was at least ruminated on with the old Estate if this new tracklist is any indication.

This one is chalk-full of "Originals" whereas 1999 SDE and SOTT SDE had none unless you count the Bonnie Rait demo, which had no Bonnie Rait official release.

In comparison this has 8 "originals" despite him having like 4x as many songs "given away" during those previous eras that intentionally included none.

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Yes, could be a clue that the "Original 2" is no more a active project.

I hope I Hear Your Voice could be in the SDE set... I really love that song.

fredmagnus said:

bizzie said:

Some have noticed that if you look at the source of this leak, the songs have IDs. And those are mostly sequential, but there are some gaps. Which suggests there could be more outtakes.

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2028 -> 2535! I don't think there are 500 missing tracks here.

Maybe it's because Standing At The Altar belongs to another set ??

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The "holes" in the identifier sequence don't necessarily mean anything.

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I wrote some code to generate ISRC identifiers for a project (for a well-known music festival), many years ago, and "holes" can sometimes just mean that an incorrect entry has been deleted and that that particular identifier will never be used.

[Edited 8/19/23 9:35am]

Ndorphinmachina said:

Overall it looks promising. Although personally I think "Schoolyard" could be omitted due to the content and fact it's not a good song. "Work that fat" could also be buried. It's not funky or funny. I'm hoping some of the alternate takes/early versions are live in the studio like "International Lover". That was some truly mind blowing stuff. There are some pretty glaring omissions, but I'm happy to see some songs I've never heard of. "Open Book" is an absolute gem. Rarely talked about but what a song! Great to have that in pristine quality.

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I don't care about Schoolyard's lyrics, but I'm very much interested in hearing it in a good mix (the one we have is a poor draft) and hearing it all (we only have half of it). We know that with Prince, the musically really interesting bits often happen "after the song".
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Open Book in pristine quality has always been one of my holy grails. Fingers crossed they don't mess it up somehow...

Kares said:

I guess this is one of the projects HEAD OF ESTATE Llondell is announcing this month.

Landonfunkmonkey said:

Blood on The Sheets is the most Intriguing of the titles. Alice Through The Looking Glass also. Is that a cover of Alice by Stevie Nicks, from Other Side Of The Mirror. It was previously reported as being called just Alice. [Edited 8/19/23 12:51pm]

that's what made me think of the stevie nicks song too, because that one is also
called just "Alice" but features the lyrics "Alice through the looking glass".

LILpoundCAKE said:

LILpoundCAKE said:

Diamonds and Pearls SDE dropping October 27 according to a reliable source > saw this on twitter

love2thenines2003 said:

ChocolateBox3121 said: