funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

a precursor to GB? even though GB is mostly made of songs from earlier in the 80s? im interested to know more....

batman sounds like a quickie album. maybe thats an illusion. i guess prince also just worked quickly. but apart from a few tracks like partyman, arms of orion, or batdance, which must have taken some time to piece together, songs like electric chair, trust, they all sound like he knocked them out in record time. its not like purple rain or D&P even where you can hear he took time with it. but then, prince worked quick in general. sometimes you could hear that, sometimes you couldnt.

anyway, as far as C&D, the best of it i dont think is that far below the best 90s material overall he released. its a cool little album. same december is great, dinner with delores is pretty excellent, i love the ballads, dig u better dead has a lot of bite, and had u is up there with shy or some tracks like orgasm, or solo, as one of his more interesting left field tracks.

Batdance is the only song that to me sounds like it was quickly thrown together. This is because it was. It was added to replace Dance with the Devil and is made up of samples of other songs planned for the movie

LoveGalore said:

GB shares a ton, aesthetically and stylistically, with Batman (which builds off Lovesexy).

...which was my main point. Batman, GB, and parts of Lovesexy all hold hands. The same way ATWIAD and Parade are sisters.

TrivialPursuit said:

funkbabyandthebabysitters said:

prince did a few throwaway, or quickie albums. eg batman.

this is another one of those.

def some good, or at least, enjoyable, stuff on there though.

just not all of it.

only thing i really dislike is the dancehall MCing on i rock therefore i am. but i dont hate the song even in spite of that.

LOL There's no way Batman was a quickie or a throwaway album. It's a bit out of the norm for his sound at the time, but it also ushered in a lot of ephemeral aesthetics that we'd know a lot about in the next few years. Hell, Batman is almost a precursor to all things Graffiti Bridge (musically).

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- Indeed, the most ironic thing to me is that Prince really seemed to care about the Batman album. Because I don´t like it much. It had some nice songs, but a really dry production (ok, it was unique) and, despite having sold really well at the time, I believe it didnt fit in the movie and I dont think it is regarded as a great soundtrack by nobody but the diehard fans.

IanRG said:

RJOrion said:

I overstand that there are exceptions to the rule, and that certain demographics may be put off or offended by my claim, but the fact is that most of Prince's black fanbase and even a good portion of the other demographics thought that Chaos & Disorder was a terrible album compared to Prince's work before it, and even after it. Get mad if you want, but the sales and airplay for that album and the Rolling Stones article speak volumes. The album had zero hit records...not even a mild hit. Bless Yalls broken hearts. [Edited 2/24/23 6:58am]

How much of this is because Prince refused to promote it, did not release a single except Dinner with Dolores and then only in the UK, and instead released and promoted Emancipation and its many singles starting just four month's later?

Despite no promotion other than that this is an album I was forced to do, it still reached number 26 in the USA on the back of his CORE fans. Rolling Stone is just being lazy by being driven by the numbers to choose this album for their list.

[Edited 2/26/23 12:00pm]

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The same thing happened with The Vault - Old Friends 4 Sale. Such a great cohesive album, with amazing band and production, but he preferred to promote Rave. I love Prince, but I really dislike some of his decisions.

GustavoRibas said:

IanRG said:

How much of this is because Prince refused to promote it, did not release a single except Dinner with Dolores and then only in the UK, and instead released and promoted Emancipation and its many singles starting just four month's later?

Despite no promotion other than that this is an album I was forced to do, it still reached number 26 in the USA on the back of his CORE fans. Rolling Stone is just being lazy by being driven by the numbers to choose this album for their list.

[Edited 2/26/23 12:00pm]

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The same thing happened with The Vault - Old Friends 4 Sale. Such a great cohesive album, with amazing band and production, but he preferred to promote Rave. I love Prince, but I really dislike some of his decisions.

Promoting OF4S was never an option - he had left Warner years before and had nothing to do with the release of the album (other than handing it over to Warner at the same time as C&D).

leecaldon said:

GustavoRibas said:

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The same thing happened with The Vault - Old Friends 4 Sale. Such a great cohesive album, with amazing band and production, but he preferred to promote Rave. I love Prince, but I really dislike some of his decisions.

Promoting OF4S was never an option - he had left Warner years before and had nothing to do with the release of the album (other than handing it over to Warner at the same time as C&D).

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- Yes, it´s true. Too bad. This is the album I use to introduce Prince to my friends that dont like synths and electronic drums. They usually are surprised that Prince could do something like ´She spoke 2 me´

GustavoRibas said:

leecaldon said:

Promoting OF4S was never an option - he had left Warner years before and had nothing to do with the release of the album (other than handing it over to Warner at the same time as C&D).

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- Yes, it´s true. Too bad. This is the album I use to introduce Prince to my friends that dont like synths and electronic drums. They usually are surprised that Prince could do something like ´She spoke 2 me´

She spoke to me, 5 women, When the lights go down, Dark could have been classics.

damn Delores,pick another subject,please

introduce the carpet to something other than your knees

C&D is one of the first Prince albums where I felt "meh". Not nearly as high-quality as Come or TGE that came right before it, or Emancipation that came a few months after it.

Sure, it was nice having some new Prince songs to listen to that summer, but not really Prince songs that you'd play in front of other people.

It was listed as a "Contractual Obligation" for a reason. Aside from a few tracks, there's nothing I'd miss if I never heard again.