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Thread started 01/17/23 9:25am

paisleyparkgir
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Songs you suspect Prince wrote about Bria Valente

Prince dated the beautiful Bria from 2008-2010 so I'm sure some songs were inspired by her.

Which ones do you think ?

Obviously his best work was inspired by Vanity, Susannah or Mayte but perhaps Bria got some love too.

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Reply #1 posted 01/17/23 9:39am

LoveGalore

I can't imagine there were too many.

LotusFlower and MPLSound aren't heavy with the new love songs and several of them are certainly about other women.

20TEN is possible. Maybe he wrote Walk In Sand and Sea of Everything about her.

I'm more convinced that they weren't actually very close and she was more of a muse.
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Reply #2 posted 01/17/23 10:07am

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Seeing it mentioned I realized I've never thought about it. I mean in comparison to others she doesn't stick out to me much. As in no distinct trait outside she was taller than him, like that's hard. But now I'm curious because I think that would've been unusual 🤔 hmm... time to research.
Time keeps on slipping into the future...


This moment is all there is...
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Reply #3 posted 01/17/23 10:30am

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"Ain't Gonna Miss U When Ur Gone"

(rubber ta-ta's)

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #4 posted 01/17/23 12:05pm

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LoveGalore said:

I can't imagine there were too many.

LotusFlower and MPLSound aren't heavy with the new love songs and several of them are certainly about other women.

20TEN is possible. Maybe he wrote Walk In Sand and Sea of Everything about her.

I'm more convinced that they weren't actually very close and she was more of a muse.



Yeah, LotusFlower has such a psychedelic vibe to it. I cant imagine she inspired any of the joints on that lp.
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Reply #5 posted 01/17/23 12:39pm

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nayroo2002 said:

"Ain't Gonna Miss U When Ur Gone"


(rubber ta-ta's)


Always thought that was about Andy allo
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Reply #6 posted 01/17/23 12:57pm

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Who cares? She's as interesting as the dust under the couch.

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #7 posted 01/17/23 1:06pm

RJOrion

TrivialPursuit said:

Who cares? She's as interesting as the dust under the couch.



Word...she was 'The Least Beautiful Girl In His World'
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Reply #8 posted 01/17/23 1:24pm

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MrSharon said:

nayroo2002 said:

"Ain't Gonna Miss U When Ur Gone"

(rubber ta-ta's)

Always thought that was about Andy allo

Andy doesn't have rubber ta-tas though.

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Reply #9 posted 01/17/23 1:34pm

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paisleyparkgirl said:

MrSharon said:

nayroo2002 said: Always thought that was about Andy allo

Andy doesn't have rubber ta-tas though.

Maybe Mr.Sharon has never really seen ta-ta's?

"Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #10 posted 01/17/23 2:21pm

MrSharon

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nayroo2002 said:



paisleyparkgirl said:




MrSharon said:


nayroo2002 said: Always thought that was about Andy allo


Andy doesn't have rubber ta-tas though.



Maybe Mr.Sharon has never really seen ta-ta's?



Sure I have. I eat them all the time
Tater tots,right?
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Reply #11 posted 01/17/23 3:45pm

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To me Walk in Sand is about Mayte - maybe it was an older song he went back to? or Vanity?
These were the 2 women he seemed to love the most, and return to songs about them. He never seemed to reminisce about Susannah (at least after SOTT).

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Reply #12 posted 01/17/23 4:02pm

LoveGalore

LOSTPASSWORDMAN said:

To me Walk in Sand is about Mayte - maybe it was an older song he went back to? or Vanity?
These were the 2 women he seemed to love the most, and return to songs about them. He never seemed to reminisce about Susannah (at least after SOTT).



I mean, Violet the Organ Grinder seems to be about her. And of course In This Bed, Ice Cream.

I dunno who Walk In Sand is about mostly because I haven't heard it enough to know much more than the chorus. That album has Future Soul Song on it and that's all that matters for me, lol.

Maybe he wrote Somewhere Here On Earth about Bria or Susannah?
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Reply #13 posted 01/17/23 4:24pm

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LoveGalore said:

LOSTPASSWORDMAN said:

To me Walk in Sand is about Mayte - maybe it was an older song he went back to? or Vanity?
These were the 2 women he seemed to love the most, and return to songs about them. He never seemed to reminisce about Susannah (at least after SOTT).

I mean, Violet the Organ Grinder seems to be about her.

I thought it was about Carmen.

Anyhow I guess it's safe to say that after his second divorce, besides perhaps Andy Allo, no woman has made much of an impression on him.

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Reply #14 posted 01/17/23 5:00pm

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paisleyparkgirl said:



LoveGalore said:


LOSTPASSWORDMAN said:

To me Walk in Sand is about Mayte - maybe it was an older song he went back to? or Vanity?
These were the 2 women he seemed to love the most, and return to songs about them. He never seemed to reminisce about Susannah (at least after SOTT).



I mean, Violet the Organ Grinder seems to be about her.


I thought it was about Carmen.



Anyhow I guess it's safe to say that after his second divorce, besides perhaps Andy Allo, no woman has made much of an impression on him.



Is Andy allo the one that broke up with Prince for a woman?
Isn't that what the song "Da bourgeoisie" was about? With the bearded lady lyric?
[Edited 1/17/23 19:10pm]
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Reply #15 posted 01/17/23 5:06pm

LoveGalore

paisleyparkgirl said:



LoveGalore said:


LOSTPASSWORDMAN said:

To me Walk in Sand is about Mayte - maybe it was an older song he went back to? or Vanity?
These were the 2 women he seemed to love the most, and return to songs about them. He never seemed to reminisce about Susannah (at least after SOTT).



I mean, Violet the Organ Grinder seems to be about her.


I thought it was about Carmen.



Anyhow I guess it's safe to say that after his second divorce, besides perhaps Andy Allo, no woman has made much of an impression on him.



No I Hate U is about Carmen. He was still dating her in 1991. Violet specifically mentions the Crystal Ball and I'm fairly confident that was intentionally referring to the recording sessions while she was painting the wall ("and it now serves as a reminder of u and I").
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Reply #16 posted 01/17/23 5:21pm

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MrSharon said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

I thought it was about Carmen.

Anyhow I guess it's safe to say that after his second divorce, besides perhaps Andy Allo, no woman has made much of an impression on him.

Is Andy allo the one that broke up with Prince for a woman?

Allegedly.

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Reply #17 posted 01/17/23 5:39pm

LoveGalore

paisleyparkgirl said:



MrSharon said:


paisleyparkgirl said:



I thought it was about Carmen.



Anyhow I guess it's safe to say that after his second divorce, besides perhaps Andy Allo, no woman has made much of an impression on him.



Is Andy allo the one that broke up with Prince for a woman?


Allegedly.



Huh? It seems pretty clear Prince left Andy Allo and that's why she started singing all those sad girl breakup songs.
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Reply #18 posted 01/17/23 5:49pm

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LoveGalore said:

paisleyparkgirl said:

Allegedly.

Huh? It seems pretty clear Prince left Andy Allo and that's why she started singing all those sad girl breakup songs.

I said allegedly regarding the "she left him for a woman", we have no proof of that.

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Reply #19 posted 01/17/23 6:10pm

LoveGalore

paisleyparkgirl said:



LoveGalore said:


paisleyparkgirl said:



Allegedly.



Huh? It seems pretty clear Prince left Andy Allo and that's why she started singing all those sad girl breakup songs.


I said allegedly regarding the "she left him for a woman", we have no proof of that.



Someone get Andy on the horn. Who is this mystery woman??? Bambi???
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Reply #20 posted 01/17/23 7:08pm

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LoveGalore said:

paisleyparkgirl said:



MrSharon said:


paisleyparkgirl said:



I thought it was about Carmen.



Anyhow I guess it's safe to say that after his second divorce, besides perhaps Andy Allo, no woman has made much of an impression on him.



Is Andy allo the one that broke up with Prince for a woman?


Allegedly.



Huh? It seems pretty clear Prince left Andy Allo and that's why she started singing all those sad girl breakup songs.


What break up songs? Did she put out another album after superconductor and the acoustic stuff she did with Prince?
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Reply #21 posted 01/17/23 7:34pm

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IDC if all the songs were written on bria as long as he stays away from my daughter
I'm giving her away to Jonathan and that's final
Compre?
[Edited 1/17/23 19:35pm]
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Reply #22 posted 01/17/23 7:36pm

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MrSharon said:

LoveGalore said:
Huh? It seems pretty clear Prince left Andy Allo and that's why she started singing all those sad girl breakup songs.
What break up songs? Did she put out another album after superconductor and the acoustic stuff she did with Prince?

She put out an EP titled "Hello" in 2015 with 5 songs.

-Don't ever Say

-Tongue Tied

-Northern lights

-Fighter

-Into the Wild

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Reply #23 posted 01/17/23 7:40pm

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paisleyparkgirl said:



MrSharon said:


LoveGalore said:
Huh? It seems pretty clear Prince left Andy Allo and that's why she started singing all those sad girl breakup songs.

What break up songs? Did she put out another album after superconductor and the acoustic stuff she did with Prince?


She put out an EP titled "Hello" in 2015 with 5 songs.


-Don't ever Say


-Tongue Tied


-Northern lights


-Fighter


-Into the Wild



Well now it is my firm duty to listen to these songs
Thank you for sharing the track list
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Reply #24 posted 01/17/23 7:59pm

LoveGalore

MrSharon said:

LoveGalore said:



Huh? It seems pretty clear Prince left Andy Allo and that's why she started singing all those sad girl breakup songs.


What break up songs? Did she put out another album after superconductor and the acoustic stuff she did with Prince?


The acoustic stuff with Prince has some somber parts. Actually I think a lot of the songs they both worked on together sound a little melancholy.

But I'm referring to the album she did post Prince with "Tongue Tied" and "Northern Lights" etc. Seems like some pretty heavy stuff.
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Reply #25 posted 01/18/23 3:20am

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Are any Prince sings about Manuela?
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Reply #26 posted 01/18/23 3:36am

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lurker316 said:

Are any Prince sings about Manuela?


"She Loves Me 4 Me"

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #27 posted 01/18/23 4:27am

dodger07

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Are any Prince sings about Manuela?


There was some talk on here of Fury being about her
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Reply #28 posted 01/18/23 4:34am

LoveGalore

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Are any Prince sings about Manuela?


Come on now.

Nearly the entirety of Rainbow Children is about her and her induction into the cult.
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Reply #29 posted 01/18/23 6:58am

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LoveGalore said:

lurker316 said:
Are any Prince sings about Manuela?
Come on now. Nearly the entirety of Rainbow Children is about her and her induction into the cult.



I know that Manuela helped (along with Larry) to lure him into the cult. And I know that Rainbow Children is generally about his joiing the cult. But outside of She Loves Me for 4 Me, where is Manueal's role, or simply Prince's affection for her, mentioned in Rainbdow Children?

You may be correct. I know the tone of the written word can sometimes come across wrong, so to be clear, I'm not arguing with you. I'm genuinely interested if you can't point to specific examples. I love that album and listen to it all the time, but I'm almost exclusively listening to its music. I don't pay attention to its lyrics. I let them pass over me. So I'm totally willing to believe it's full of Manuela references that I've just not picked up on.



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