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Reply #120 posted 10/15/21 4:27am

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fortuneandserendipity said:


Almost right. It looks like 78-94 for WBR, plus Old Friends 4 Sale, the vault album recorded between '85 and '94. And then later on, the albums Art Offical Age, PlectrumElectrum.


WBR owns nothing from 1994. Neither TMBGITW, nor Black Album, nor Come.


The Black Album and Come are still Warner Bros. albums, at least as far as worldwide. The U.S. as mentioned earlier, is different. TMBGITW is just a single, was never an album.

https://www.legacyrecordings.com/2018/06/27/sony-music-entertainment-legacy-recordings-sign-exclusive-distribution-deal-with-prince-estate-covering-35-essential-catalog-titles-from-1978-2015/


The hypocrisy of the far-left is something else.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence - this is where all religions fall down.
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Reply #121 posted 10/15/21 4:47am

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Dandroppedadime said:

I really only listen digitally now, but I guess the CD has died, because in many ways 'we' were only getting them for the pristine digital sound and the booklet/artwork - but now the digital sound is available via streaming or mp3 - so that only leaves the artwork - but that is really catered for by the vinyl now. So I can see why CD is slowly going the way of the dinosaur! (I still buy Prince albums on CD if avialable but no other artists!).

uhh, it's definitely not "pristine digital" if it's only digitally available MP3 or streaming...


Unless a FLAC or WAV is available for purchase somewhere.

[Edited 10/14/21 18:23pm]

If it's available on something like Tidal, then you're getting as good as CD quality.

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Reply #122 posted 10/15/21 5:29am

Moonbeam

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Moonbeam said:


While I am excited for this, it does make me wonder if the estate isn’t planning on a deluxe reissue for Controversy,

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Sigh... Can we stop it with this nonsense? Hint: "I Feel For You" single also didn't give us an SDE. Neither did http://princevault.com/in...man_/_Cool . Neither did http://princevault.com/in...y_Computer . Neither did http://princevault.com/in...nneapolis) . Neither did http://princevault.com/in...s_2_U_2018. That's half a dozen examples -- enough?



Erm, that’s exactly my point! Releasing this makes me feel the estate has no plans for a deluxe reissue of Controversy, which I badly want.
Feel free to join in the Prince Album Poll 2018! Let'a celebrate his legacy by counting down the most beloved Prince albums, as decided by you!
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Reply #123 posted 10/15/21 5:33am

RODSERLING

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RODSERLING said:


fortuneandserendipity said:



Almost right. It looks like 78-94 for WBR, plus Old Friends 4 Sale, the vault album recorded between '85 and '94. And then later on, the albums Art Offical Age, PlectrumElectrum.




WBR owns nothing from 1994. Neither TMBGITW, nor Black Album, nor Come.


The Black Album and Come are still Warner Bros. albums, at least as far as worldwide. The U.S. as mentioned earlier, is different. TMBGITW is just a single, was never an album.

https://www.legacyrecordings.com/2018/06/27/sony-music-entertainment-legacy-recordings-sign-exclusive-distribution-deal-with-prince-estate-covering-35-essential-catalog-titles-from-1978-2015/




Wrong. WB is/were distributing them, that's all.
WB is not able to use the songs of both albums in a greatest hits package.
They are not able to release them on vinyl neither.

When Prince died, every big wreckastores made available all Prince's album they could, there were even stand with photographs of every WB album.
Come was never part of these marketing operations, and were completely absent from the stores. Just like Chaos and Disorder.
The Vault was part of it though.

There's a reason why WB cannot use songs past 1992 in their greatest hits package, whether Prince being dead or alive.
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Reply #124 posted 10/15/21 5:47am

JorisE73

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JorisE73 said:


That wasn't your only option to get the Blu Ray.

I m sorry but I m not japanese, so I didn't want to pay extra shipment costs, just to not have the booklet, by the way.


So you're just whining to whine then because you had a perfectly good option for what you wanted but ignored it just to have something to complain about.

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Reply #125 posted 10/15/21 6:14am

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I just purchased 'Do Me, Baby' on iTunes. Love this version. Definitely a cool bonus track to celebrate the 40th Anniversary of 'Controversy'

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Reply #126 posted 10/15/21 6:14am

RODSERLING

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RODSERLING said:


JorisE73 said:



That wasn't your only option to get the Blu Ray.



I m sorry but I m not japanese, so I didn't want to pay extra shipment costs, just to not have the booklet, by the way.


So you're just whining to whine then because you had a perfectly good option for what you wanted but ignored it just to have something to complain about.



No, I m not complaining at all. I just stated facts.
If you want the blu-ray+ the booklet, you had to buy the Occidental SDE.
I could have passed on the goodies though 😂
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Reply #127 posted 10/15/21 6:38am

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It sounds so beautiful. So glad to be hearing this now.

if it was just a dream, call me a dreamer 2
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Reply #128 posted 10/15/21 7:31am

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Cant believe my purple psychedelic pimp slap pimp2

And I descend from grace, In arms of undertow
I will take my place, In the great below
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Reply #129 posted 10/15/21 7:41am

soladeo1

Why did Prince not release this gem in PRINCE and put out WHEN WE'RE DANCING CLOSE AND SLOW instead? I mean, WWDCAS is a fine song...but DO ME, BABY is truly transcendent!

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Reply #130 posted 10/15/21 8:23am

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This is a really cool surprise, think the Controversy album version is still my favourite (perhaps more due to familiarity) but fascinating to hear this early incarnation.

Slightly random question but remember a thread on here once saying that Do Me Baby appeared to be heavily inspired by an Eddie Hazel track (forget the name). Does this new version also display that same influence, or did that emerge later when it came time to rework the song for Controversy?

Heavenly wine and roses seems to whisper to me when you smile...
Always cry for love, never cry for pain...
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Reply #131 posted 10/15/21 9:14am

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RODSERLING said:

JorisE73 said:


So you're just whining to whine then because you had a perfectly good option for what you wanted but ignored it just to have something to complain about.

No, I m not complaining at all. I just stated facts. If you want the blu-ray+ the booklet, you had to buy the Occidental SDE. I could have passed on the goodies though 😂

Two booklets, one in English and the other containing the Japanese translation of the lyrics, are included in the Japanese CD with the Blu-ray disk.

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Reply #132 posted 10/15/21 9:16am

Vannormal

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Exactly.

Great release, happy with it.

But the cover design... we already had that. His handwriting, the black and purple, etc.

They could've done an alternative pic from the cover shoot for one of the released singles...

And why an etched B-side? For what reason ?

Honestly, why not the raw unmixed version on the B-side ?

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I’ve done my own b-side: Neurotic Lover’s Bedroom (Demo). The estate should have have put it on the vinyl and issued a statement saying they’d been trying to continue the pretence that Prince had this masterful statesman-like mind with a wealth of political and social awareness. However, having sifted through the boxes of tapes in the vault they’ve come to the conclusion most of the unreleased stuff is just filth, depraved and perverted. And the next release will be a double b-side of the original versions of Extralovable and Lust U Always. Won’t happen. [Edited 10/15/21 3:53am]

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I did that too !

I've already done a remix of both these songs for my own use.

Added some old ''Do Me, Baby'' to it in the mix..

Tomorrow i'm gonna make another one.

Love this song's warmth and silkyness, very nice to have.

Though love, absolutely adore the album version !

So fantastic!!!! Uncomparably Prince.

Slowly building the warmth up to hotness throughout the whole song, talking shit in our ears to get us horny, than ending in the cold. Damn Prince!

smile

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves.
And wiser people so full of doubts"
(Bertrand Russsell 1872-1972)
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Reply #133 posted 10/15/21 9:34am

RODSERLING

NoSwan said:



RODSERLING said:


JorisE73 said:



So you're just whining to whine then because you had a perfectly good option for what you wanted but ignored it just to have something to complain about.



No, I m not complaining at all. I just stated facts. If you want the blu-ray+ the booklet, you had to buy the Occidental SDE. I could have passed on the goodies though 😂


Two booklets, one in English and the other containing the Japanese translation of the lyrics, are included in the Japanese CD with the Blu-ray disk.



There was the same booklet in the japanese version than with the SDE?
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Reply #134 posted 10/15/21 10:16am

AvocadosMax

soladeo1 said:

Why did Prince not release this gem in PRINCE and put out WHEN WE'RE DANCING CLOSE AND SLOW instead? I mean, WWDCAS is a fine song...but DO ME, BABY is truly transcendent!


I think it all worked out. Prince knew how to save something for an album that would fit better
He had too many hits!
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Reply #135 posted 10/15/21 10:53am

FrankieCoco1

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

This is a really cool surprise, think the Controversy album version is still my favourite (perhaps more due to familiarity) but fascinating to hear this early incarnation.

Slightly random question but remember a thread on here once saying that Do Me Baby appeared to be heavily inspired by an Eddie Hazel track (forget the name). Does this new version also display that same influence, or did that emerge later when it came time to rework the song for Controversy?



Quoting PrinceVault ( http://www.princevault.co...o_Me,_Baby )

“Whether intentionally or not, the song’s music is similar to Eddie Hazel’s track Frantic Moment (written by George Clinton, Bootsy Collins and Bernie Worrell) from his Games, Dames and Guitar Thangs album released in 1977.”

Edit: link to .org page discussing this,
https://prince.org/msg/7/179066
[Edited 10/15/21 10:57am]
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Reply #136 posted 10/15/21 11:08am

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AvocadosMax said:

soladeo1 said:

Why did Prince not release this gem in PRINCE and put out WHEN WE'RE DANCING CLOSE AND SLOW instead? I mean, WWDCAS is a fine song...but DO ME, BABY is truly transcendent!

I think it all worked out. Prince knew how to save something for an album that would fit better He had too many hits!

ure are Nuts or what.....WWDC&S is one of the best produced & beautiful song ever written by Prince...seriously .....Damned !!!

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Reply #137 posted 10/15/21 12:30pm

Dandroppedadim
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RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

This is a really cool surprise, think the Controversy album version is still my favourite (perhaps more due to familiarity) but fascinating to hear this early incarnation.

Slightly random question but remember a thread on here once saying that Do Me Baby appeared to be heavily inspired by an Eddie Hazel track (forget the name). Does this new version also display that same influence, or did that emerge later when it came time to rework the song for Controversy?

It's 'Frantic Moment' apparently, buy I can't hear it!

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Reply #138 posted 10/15/21 12:35pm

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Although i am thankful for any new release i am not very excited about the demo.
I like the album version a lot more than the demo.
Anyway, thanks for the song.
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Reply #139 posted 10/15/21 12:39pm

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sad I am COMPLETELY DEVASTATED that I missed out on the cassette and have been VERY depressed about it. sad . sad mad

[Edited 10/15/21 14:17pm]
"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #140 posted 10/15/21 1:08pm

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paraded said:

Like so many of the demos released so far, this one makes me appreciate just how brilliant his official version is. This demo is so sweet sounding, so innocent. The official version has two crucial improvements for me. One, he's singing in the most paper thin, slightly distorted vocals, which no one has ever quite matched in intimacy. Maximum intensity from minimal output. And second, he does these wails that go from extreme high notes back down to his chest voice, which totally changes the effect to a master of seduction.

But it's amazing how he had the structure of the arrangement down at this point. It's beautifully done.

Yeah, I imagine MANY artists would have been happy with this 1979 version (and they wouldn't have been wrong). It could have been a nice R&B radio hit. But he took it in all kinds of other weird directions that weren't as commercial but helped establish him as a legendary, provocative artist. His forward-thinking adventurousness during this period is incredible.

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Reply #141 posted 10/15/21 1:32pm

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BartVanHemelen said:

WhisperingDandelions said:

uhh, it's definitely not "pristine digital" if it's only digitally available MP3 or streaming...


Unless a FLAC or WAV is available for purchase somewhere.

[Edited 10/14/21 18:23pm]

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It's 2021 and Prince fans still can't figure out where you can buy lossless music online. I mean, it's not like previous releases have been available in CD quality or even Hi-Res quality on sites like Qobuz or Tidal or HiResAudio or HDTracks (perhaps even iTunes?). It's not like there are search engines where you can enter the words "where to buy lossles smusic" and find articles that list various online stores.

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Nope, they cannot figure that out for themselves. Need it to be spoonfed to them. And then completely forget about ever receiving such information so they can whine all over again when the next release comes along.

My god, the irony!

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Reply #142 posted 10/15/21 2:34pm

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Dandroppedadime said:

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

This is a really cool surprise, think the Controversy album version is still my favourite (perhaps more due to familiarity) but fascinating to hear this early incarnation.

Slightly random question but remember a thread on here once saying that Do Me Baby appeared to be heavily inspired by an Eddie Hazel track (forget the name). Does this new version also display that same influence, or did that emerge later when it came time to rework the song for Controversy?

It's 'Frantic Moment' apparently, buy I can't hear it!

Ah yeah that's the one, thanks. Aye I do remember thinking the connection was a bit more subtle than people may have initially been making out, but I can definitely hear it with the Controversy version, feels like the busier nature of this new demo might obscure it a bit.

Heavenly wine and roses seems to whisper to me when you smile...
Always cry for love, never cry for pain...
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Reply #143 posted 10/15/21 3:22pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

LoveGalore said:

At first I really wanted the cassette replica but then I thought, what the true fuck am I gonna do with that. Frame a cassette? Pass. But I do love this release


The release is great, but they aren't maximising sales because they seem to have given up on CD collectors.

Are they trying to be authentic to the era maybe? No CD in 1981. Seems like a waste to me though.

Yeah, we'll, we'll try to imagine what silence looks like.
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Reply #144 posted 10/15/21 5:49pm

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ChocolateBox3121 said:

sad I am COMPLETELY DEVASTATED that I missed out on the cassette and have been VERY depressed about it. sad . sad mad [Edited 10/15/21 14:17pm]

Me too! sad

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Reply #145 posted 10/15/21 6:49pm

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this is from the same session as the I feel 4 u demo?

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Reply #146 posted 10/15/21 8:05pm

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So, did the super-fans who have claimed they had everything from the vault, have this? smile

"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015
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Reply #147 posted 10/15/21 8:59pm

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FrankieCoco1 said:

RaspBerryGirlFriend said:

This is a really cool surprise, think the Controversy album version is still my favourite (perhaps more due to familiarity) but fascinating to hear this early incarnation.

Slightly random question but remember a thread on here once saying that Do Me Baby appeared to be heavily inspired by an Eddie Hazel track (forget the name). Does this new version also display that same influence, or did that emerge later when it came time to rework the song for Controversy?

Quoting PrinceVault ( http://www.princevault.co...o_Me,_Baby ) “Whether intentionally or not, the song’s music is similar to Eddie Hazel’s track Frantic Moment (written by George Clinton, Bootsy Collins and Bernie Worrell) from his Games, Dames and Guitar Thangs album released in 1977.” Edit: link to .org page discussing this, https://prince.org/msg/7/179066 [Edited 10/15/21 10:57am]

When i fist heard the 'lifted' part of the song I almost had a damn car wreck.......lol.

FOOLS multiply when WISE Men & Women are silent.
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Reply #148 posted 10/16/21 1:55am

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Moonbeam said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Sigh... Can we stop it with this nonsense? Hint: "I Feel For You" single also didn't give us an SDE. Neither did http://princevault.com/in...man_/_Cool . Neither did http://princevault.com/in...y_Computer . Neither did http://princevault.com/in...nneapolis) . Neither did http://princevault.com/in...s_2_U_2018. That's half a dozen examples -- enough?

Erm, that’s exactly my point! Releasing this makes me feel the estate has no plans for a deluxe reissue of Controversy, which I badly want.

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Again: stop reading things into perfectly explainable releases. Controversy is 40 years old, they wanted to do a little something to celebrate it, and they found a track that perfectly fit the bill and that woudl be of interest to collectors.

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Simple as that. Nothing to do with "never an SDE".

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"Ah but why then didn't they do anything for D&P 30th?" Because they were gonna (SDE) but then the W2A delay clusterfuck fucked with their plans.

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Reply #149 posted 10/16/21 3:44am

Romeoblu

I really love this version. Playing it alot and ordered the cassette.

I think it's a shame they couldn't have put another song on the other side.

Let's Rock would have been perfected and doubled the excitement.

I wouldn't mind at all at a later date if they included the tracks again on a SDE.
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