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Reply #180 posted 06/02/21 11:42pm

CynicKill

So does this mean "Welcome 2 America" will get cancelled?

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Reply #181 posted 06/03/21 12:08am

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RJOrion said:

lastdecember said:

how intimidating is a 5 foot 2 guy in heels?




VERY intimidating...at least according to BrownMark, Prince wasnt above putting those heels in someones' ass 😎



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Reply #182 posted 06/03/21 6:20am

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I can totally see this happening with him chasing after sinead Kinda like how he did in the "Nude tour-video rehearsal" footage.During the rehearsal prince gets pissed off at Miko.Miko walks away from Prince when he is talking and prince kinda chases after him Anyone else remember this? [Edited 6/2/21 20:35pm]

Like that scene in Purple Rain where he comes into his band rehearsing and tells them to turn the noise down.

Prince: I said, turn the fucking guitar down.
Miko: Don't curse at me.
Prince: What are you going to do about it? That's what I thought. Punk!
Miko: Fuck you!
Prince: What did you say? What did you say? Fuck you, too, boy!

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Reply #183 posted 06/03/21 8:51am

Phase3

fortuneandserendipity said:



Phase3 said:


I can totally see this happening with him chasing after sinead Kinda like how he did in the "Nude tour-video rehearsal" footage.During the rehearsal prince gets pissed off at Miko.Miko walks away from Prince when he is talking and prince kinda chases after him Anyone else remember this? [Edited 6/2/21 20:35pm]

Like that scene in Purple Rain where he comes into his band rehearsing and tells them to turn the noise down.

Prince: I said, turn the fucking guitar down.
Miko: Don't curse at me.
Prince: What are you going to do about it? That's what I thought. Punk!
Miko: Fuck you!
Prince: What did you say? What did you say? Fuck you, too, boy!



That's some funny stuff
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Reply #184 posted 06/03/21 8:59am

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Phase3 said:

fortuneandserendipity said:

Like that scene in Purple Rain where he comes into his band rehearsing and tells them to turn the noise down.

Prince: I said, turn the fucking guitar down.
Miko: Don't curse at me.
Prince: What are you going to do about it? That's what I thought. Punk!
Miko: Fuck you!
Prince: What did you say? What did you say? Fuck you, too, boy!

That's some funny stuff

It's uncannily similar to the Purple Rain scene razz

The film was meant to be semi-autobiographical. Prince was a hard taskmaster.

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Reply #185 posted 06/04/21 11:26pm

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Sinead recently talked to Carson Daly for Today. https://www.youtube.com/w...e6uiEJlIHs

[Edited 6/4/21 23:26pm]

"eye don’t really care so much what people say about me because it is a reflection of who they r."
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Reply #186 posted 06/05/21 5:27pm

rap

Has anyone read the book, specifically the section on Prince?

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Reply #187 posted 06/06/21 10:32am

CynicKill

I stumbled upon this in one of the "quirkier" corners of youtube:

Sinead has some devilish things to say about Prince!

https://www.youtube.com/w...0X2Kn4-qf8

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Reply #188 posted 06/06/21 12:23pm

RJOrion

CynicKill said:

I stumbled upon this in one of the "quirkier" corners of youtube:


Sinead has some devilish things to say about Prince!


https://www.youtube.com/w...0X2Kn4-qf8






Almost All the elite celebrities (and politicians) are in the fratenal "brotherhood"... its not even a secret anymore...all the signs and symbolisms are obvious...those who know, KNOW.
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Reply #189 posted 06/06/21 1:41pm

MoodyBlumes

CynicKill said:

I stumbled upon this in one of the "quirkier" corners of youtube:

Sinead has some devilish things to say about Prince!

https://www.youtube.com/w...0X2Kn4-qf8

Was it before or after she said this?

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Famous Irish Singer Sinea...tinel.com)

I’M TERRIBLY SORRY. WHAT I’M ABOUT TO SAY IS SOMETHING SO RACIST I NEVER THOUGHT MY SOUL COULD EVER FEEL IT. BUT TRULY I NEVER WANNA SPEND TIME WITH WHITE PEOPLE AGAIN (IF THAT’S WHAT NON-MUSLIMS ARE CALLED). NOT FOR ONE MOMENT, FOR ANY REASON. THEY ARE DISGUSTING.

— SHUHADA’ DAVITT (@MAGDADAVITT77)

NOVEMBER 6, 2018

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Do you think Sinead practises Shariah law? And she is cool with the historical treatment of women across the middle east? Is she an angel?

[Edited 6/6/21 13:42pm]

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Reply #190 posted 06/07/21 12:10pm

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Sinead is so talented. None of us really know what happened with Prince, but is it such a mental leap to imagine a situation where Prince's manipulative, occasionallly bullying and controlling side would go down like a lead balloon with a strong and smart woman like Sinead, or lead to misunderstanding. Let's give them both the benefit of the doubt in the absence of a corroborating third party. Some good news, it seems she's got a healthier take on it now.



And yes, Sinead has had her problems at times and deserves our compassion. It'd be really nice if the next time this same tired story resurfaces in a couple of years (as usual, with no new info whatsoever) we all just gave it a miss and avoided the cliche of "pop star fans rabidly defending their hero against anything and everything", it's all a bit MJish isn't it?



Very well said. Prince fans can enjoy his music and appreciate the insightful things he’s said and innovative things he’s done, but I’ve personally never seen a Prince fan defend his bad behavior viciously or deny it out right. In fact, the most critical people I’ve seen of Prince are his own fans, especially when I used to frequent this site back in the 2010s.
"I took another bubble bath, with my pants on. All the fighting stopped. Next time I’ll do it sooner.”
— Prince, “The Ballad of Dorothy Parker”
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Reply #191 posted 06/07/21 2:43pm

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But we all know Prince used his fame and money to seduce underage victims just like MJ did. The only difference is that Prince did not get caught.

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Thankfully we all know you're a fucking idiot.


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Reply #192 posted 06/08/21 10:37pm

mbdtyler

I've never heard any accusations of Prince being an MJ-level child abuser, but the dude made some undeniably sketchy choices in his life - didn't he basically groom both Anna Fantastic and Mayte before either were legally adults, and he was in his late 20's/early 30's? The whole Susan-Moonsie-as-an-overly-sexualized-young-girl thing was creepy as hell too. Call it shock value or whatever you want, there were plenty of other ways he could have pushed the envelope without going to that well. Just saying.

[Edited 6/8/21 22:38pm]

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Reply #193 posted 06/09/21 2:19am

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mbdtyler said:

I've never heard any accusations of Prince being an MJ-level child abuser, but the dude made some undeniably sketchy choices in his life - didn't he basically groom both Anna Fantastic and Mayte before either were legally adults, and he was in his late 20's/early 30's? The whole Susan-Moonsie-as-an-overly-sexualized-young-girl thing was creepy as hell too. Call it shock value or whatever you want, there were plenty of other ways he could have pushed the envelope without going to that well. Just saying.

[Edited 6/8/21 22:38pm]

Regarding the others it's not my place to say, but Anna Fantastic has herself said that she never even met Prince until she was 19.

Check out The Collector's Guide to Prince on YouTube here: https://www.youtube.com/p...4ldzxwlEuy
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Reply #194 posted 06/09/21 5:00am

RODSERLING

She should have played Alpha in Walking Dead.
They both look a like, and they're both crazy.
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Reply #195 posted 06/09/21 6:55pm

rap

embmmusic said:

mbdtyler said:

I've never heard any accusations of Prince being an MJ-level child abuser, but the dude made some undeniably sketchy choices in his life - didn't he basically groom both Anna Fantastic and Mayte before either were legally adults, and he was in his late 20's/early 30's? The whole Susan-Moonsie-as-an-overly-sexualized-young-girl thing was creepy as hell too. Call it shock value or whatever you want, there were plenty of other ways he could have pushed the envelope without going to that well. Just saying.

[Edited 6/8/21 22:38pm]

Regarding the others it's not my place to say, but Anna Fantastic has herself said that she never even met Prince until she was 19.

I thought she initially met him in a night club in London, when she was 15?

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Reply #196 posted 06/09/21 7:58pm

RODSERLING

Why would Prince be pissed of by the fact NC2U was a hit?
It earned him a lot of money.

Chaka Khan covered I Feel For You, it was a #1 hit and Prince was never pissed of.
He also wrote many hits for others.

Moreover, when an artist do a cover, doesn't the writer of the original song has to sign his approval?
I read a story twenty years ago when Alicia Keys asked Prince by phone if she could cover How Come... She said he answered " Ask my lawyers... No I m joking, of course you can".

Prince was so glad NC2U became a hit that he performed it at almost every concert after
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Reply #197 posted 06/09/21 8:41pm

SoulAlive

RODSERLING said:

Why would Prince be pissed of by the fact NC2U was a hit?
It earned him a lot of money.

Chaka Khan covered I Feel For You, it was a #1 hit and Prince was never pissed of.
He also wrote many hits for others.

Moreover, when an artist do a cover, doesn't the writer of the original song has to sign his approval?
I read a story twenty years ago when Alicia Keys asked Prince by phone if she could cover How Come... She said he answered " Ask my lawyers... No I m joking, of course you can".

Prince was so glad NC2U became a hit that he performed it at almost every concert after



Very good point.I’m not sure why Sinead thinks Prince was jealous of the success she had with his song.

“His problem is that I did a song of his without him being involved.He’s jealous”,she said.”I think that,frankly,that song saved his fucking ass.He was in serious financial trouble until that song happened”.

I love how she assumes that,a year after Batman,she “saved” Prince from bankruptcy,lol.
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Reply #198 posted 06/10/21 5:09am

Milty2

RODSERLING said:

Why would Prince be pissed of by the fact NC2U was a hit? It earned him a lot of money. Chaka Khan covered I Feel For You, it was a #1 hit and Prince was never pissed of. He also wrote many hits for others. Moreover, when an artist do a cover, doesn't the writer of the original song has to sign his approval? I read a story twenty years ago when Alicia Keys asked Prince by phone if she could cover How Come... She said he answered " Ask my lawyers... No I m joking, of course you can". Prince was so glad NC2U became a hit that he performed it at almost every concert after

I'm just going to respond to the highlighted part. Now this being the Org, no one jump all over me please.

I dont think that is true actually. When Rod Stewart did a cover of "Peach" in the late 90s, Prince got all sorts of irate about it and went on Love4OneAnother.com and complained about it. It turns out that Rod just went ahead and recorded it because you actually dont need the permission of the copyright owner. It's one of the reasons why Prince was on his record company crusade for so long.

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Reply #199 posted 06/10/21 5:50am

RODSERLING

Milty2 said:



RODSERLING said:


Why would Prince be pissed of by the fact NC2U was a hit? It earned him a lot of money. Chaka Khan covered I Feel For You, it was a #1 hit and Prince was never pissed of. He also wrote many hits for others. Moreover, when an artist do a cover, doesn't the writer of the original song has to sign his approval? I read a story twenty years ago when Alicia Keys asked Prince by phone if she could cover How Come... She said he answered " Ask my lawyers... No I m joking, of course you can". Prince was so glad NC2U became a hit that he performed it at almost every concert after


I'm just going to respond to the highlighted part. Now this being the Org, no one jump all over me please.



I dont think that is true actually. When Rod Stewart did a cover of "Peach" in the late 90s, Prince got all sorts of irate about it and went on Love4OneAnother.com and complained about it. It turns out that Rod just went ahead and recorded it because you actually dont need the permission of the copyright owner. It's one of the reasons why Prince was on his record company crusade for so long.






Strange, because I read years and years ago that Paul McCartney had to agree on each Yesterday cover biggrin

But there were already 1600 covers of Yesterday by 1986 (!) so is it really physically possible to listen to and check all the songs before release?

And when there are two writers, or more, if one of the writers disagree to the cover, then the song can't be released?
If McCartney had a word to say, would he have permitted MJ to cover Come Together? This is a Lennon song, but officially credited to McCartney too.
Maybe MJ chose a Lennon song to cover because it was more easy to get the right to release it.

It s true that in tv advertisings for instance, some covers are used, without the writer agreeing to it ( or is it just public relations BS?)
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Reply #200 posted 06/10/21 6:11am

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rap said:

Has anyone read the book, specifically the section on Prince?

I have. The whole encounter, according to Sinead, last about 7-8 hours. What she is saying might be true but there is obviously a lot she doesn't say.

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Reply #201 posted 06/10/21 6:29am

Milty2

RODSERLING said:

Milty2 said:

I'm just going to respond to the highlighted part. Now this being the Org, no one jump all over me please.

I dont think that is true actually. When Rod Stewart did a cover of "Peach" in the late 90s, Prince got all sorts of irate about it and went on Love4OneAnother.com and complained about it. It turns out that Rod just went ahead and recorded it because you actually dont need the permission of the copyright owner. It's one of the reasons why Prince was on his record company crusade for so long.

Strange, because I read years and years ago that Paul McCartney had to agree on each Yesterday cover biggrin But there were already 1600 covers of Yesterday by 1986 (!) so is it really physically possible to listen to and check all the songs before release? And when there are two writers, or more, if one of the writers disagree to the cover, then the song can't be released? If McCartney had a word to say, would he have permitted MJ to cover Come Together? This is a Lennon song, but officially credited to McCartney too. Maybe MJ chose a Lennon song to cover because it was more easy to get the right to release it. It s true that in tv advertisings for instance, some covers are used, without the writer agreeing to it ( or is it just public relations BS?)

I've not heard that about PM but I have read that "Yesterday" is the most covered song of the modern rock era. I thought MJ owned the Beatles publishing hence his cover of "Come Together".

In my music business class at Berklee years ago, I learned that everytihng in the music business is negotiable and that's why there are so many contract nightmares where years later, so many artists and musicians regret signing away certain things.

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Reply #202 posted 06/10/21 7:48pm

rap

simm0061 said:

rap said:

Has anyone read the book, specifically the section on Prince?

I have. The whole encounter, according to Sinead, last about 7-8 hours. What she is saying might be true but there is obviously a lot she doesn't say.

Thanks. Has she given a date?

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Reply #203 posted 06/12/21 10:53am

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rap said:

simm0061 said:

I have. The whole encounter, according to Sinead, last about 7-8 hours. What she is saying might be true but there is obviously a lot she doesn't say.

Thanks. Has she given a date?

No date is given but according to the 1991 RS article in took place sometime during Dec. 1990.

https://prince.org/gallery/show.html?id=3520

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Reply #204 posted 06/12/21 11:03am

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This Hot Press interview is the very first time she spoke to the media about the incident. Aside from the magazine mistakingly saying it took place at P MN home, this is very likely the most accurate version of the story.

https://www.hotpress.com/music/from-the-archives-sinead-oconnor-on-her-turbulent-incident-with-prince-17220483

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Reply #205 posted 06/12/21 4:16pm

rap

simm0061 said:

rap said:

Thanks. Has she given a date?

No date is given but according to the 1991 RS article in took place sometime during Dec. 1990.

https://prince.org/gallery/show.html?id=3520

I asked, because as Prince was almost always recording/touring potentially her story could be disproven if it transpired he was somewhere else making music, etc.

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