dodger said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

onlyforaminute said:

For what it's worth, she actually DEDICATED a perfomance of the song to Prince on Irish television just a couple of years ago - only the performance is on Youtube, but the interview was also reported in the press:

https://www.independent.ie/entertainment/television/tv-news/truly-stunning-sinead-oconnor-wows-on-late-late-with-two-powerful-performances-and-dedicates-nothing-compares-2u-to-prince-38475919.html

Speaking about Nothing Compares 2U, she said he has "parked" the song twice in her life, the first time for a few weeks, and the second time because she "couldn't find anything" in it.

"Thanks be to God I had a tricky few years and that gave me back some stuff," she said, adding that she wanted to dedicate her performance to Prince, who wrote the song.

"That helps me Stanislavsky wise," she said. "When I close my eyes I'm talking to him, I'll be saying in my little world, the Stanislavsky world, I will be all of us in the whole universe singing to Prince about how much we miss him."

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onlyforaminute said:

This woman needs to be resolving her issues with a credible licensed therapist not the general public for profit. She's been caught lying about other celebrities relatively recently. With zero explanation as to why. Her word means nothing to me and I feel no obligation of any kind to be anymore understanding to her plight than I'd be to anyone on the street babbling to themselves.

Agreed! I do feel for her or anyone else that has mental illness as severe as she has, but at this point she needs to STFU. I guess this is her way of keeping herself relevant.

Sinead is so talented. None of us really know what happened with Prince, but is it such a mental leap to imagine a situation where Prince's manipulative, occasionallly bullying and controlling side would go down like a lead balloon with a strong and smart woman like Sinead, or lead to misunderstanding. Let's give them both the benefit of the doubt in the absence of a corroborating third party. Some good news, it seems she's got a healthier take on it now.

And yes, Sinead has had her problems at times and deserves our compassion. It'd be really nice if the next time this same tired story resurfaces in a couple of years (as usual, with no new info whatsoever) we all just gave it a miss and avoided the cliche of "pop star fans rabidly defending their hero against anything and everything", it's all a bit MJish isn't it?

ian said:

Sinead is so talented. None of us really know what happened with Prince, but is it such a mental leap to imagine a situation where Prince's manipulative, occasionallly bullying and controlling side would go down like a lead balloon with a strong and smart woman like Sinead, or lead to misunderstanding. Let's give them both the benefit of the doubt in the absence of a corroborating third party. Some good news, it seems she's got a healthier take on it now.

And yes, Sinead has had her problems at times and deserves our compassion. It'd be really nice if the next time this same tired story resurfaces in a couple of years (as usual, with no new info whatsoever) we all just gave it a miss and avoided the cliche of "pop star fans rabidly defending their hero against anything and everything", it's all a bit MJish isn't it?

Well said. Sinead is amazing and I think that will become more and more apparent to people as years go on.

simm0061 said:

ian said:

Sinead is so talented. None of us really know what happened with Prince, but is it such a mental leap to imagine a situation where Prince's manipulative, occasionallly bullying and controlling side would go down like a lead balloon with a strong and smart woman like Sinead, or lead to misunderstanding. Let's give them both the benefit of the doubt in the absence of a corroborating third party. Some good news, it seems she's got a healthier take on it now.

And yes, Sinead has had her problems at times and deserves our compassion. It'd be really nice if the next time this same tired story resurfaces in a couple of years (as usual, with no new info whatsoever) we all just gave it a miss and avoided the cliche of "pop star fans rabidly defending their hero against anything and everything", it's all a bit MJish isn't it?

Well said. Sinead is amazing and I think that will become more and more apparent to people as years go on.

To add: I feel like Prince fans get up in their feelings because they think Sinead is trying to re-crucify Prince over their tainted interaction. She's not. She respected him as an artist; as a person he was a dickhead to her (for reasons we still don't know, really, other than for the sake of it). She has a right to tell her story, and still appreciate him as an artist. Both can exist.

I'll keep saying it: all these women who the public (and politicians) bashed are people we should've listened to before now. Sinead talking about rape in the Catholic church, in the early 90s?! Rosie O'Donnell talking about 's shady dealings. Kathy Griffin, Martha Stewart... more and more. Hate them or not, they were right about things. And people ignored them, called them names, sent them death threats.

The reaction to Sinead telling her story speaks more of those reacting, than the one telling the story.

EmmaMcG said:

TrivialPursuit said:

simm0061 said:

Well said. Sinead is amazing and I think that will become more and more apparent to people as years go on.

To add: I feel like Prince fans get up in their feelings because they think Sinead is trying to re-crucify Prince over their tainted interaction. She's not. She respected him as an artist; as a person he was a dickhead to her (for reasons we still don't know, really, other than for the sake of it). She has a right to tell her story, and still appreciate him as an artist. Both can exist.

I'll keep saying it: all these women who the public (and politicians) bashed are people we should've listened to before now. Sinead talking about rape in the Catholic church, in the early 90s?! Rosie O'Donnell talking about 's shady dealings. Kathy Griffin, Martha Stewart... more and more. Hate them or not, they were right about things. And people ignored them, called them names, sent them death threats.

The reaction to Sinead telling her story speaks more of those reacting, than the one telling the story.

I respect that you say this here while being a Prince fan too. I mostly agree with you. I think what works against Sinead even more than most women who speak out is that the rage she directs at so many people make it harder to differentiate the facts from over-reactivity. the NYT article quoted Bob Geldof about how he is about the only friend who still speaks to her and implied that this is because she is always lashing out at those who have been close to her, even Geldof himself. This is by no means a defense of Prince, as I wouldn't be surprised if she is at least partly accurate about it. However, her history of sudden and dramatic changes in what she says (I am getting married, not married, married again, and not married all in a week's time, I am gay and I am not gay in a couple of days period, and how she goes off on so many intimates hurts her overall credibility. I hate to see such a vulnerable person so attacked (in general, not just here), and yet she so often provides fuel for the fire.

gandorb said:

I respect that you say this here while being a Prince fan too. I mostly agree with you. I think what works against Sinead even more than most women who speak out is that the rage she directs at so many people make it harder to differentiate the facts from over-reactivity....

However, her history of sudden and dramatic changes in what she says (I am getting married, not married, married again, and not married all in a week's time, I am gay and I am not gay in a couple of days period, and how she goes off on so many intimates hurts her overall credibility. I hate to see such a vulnerable person so attacked (in general, not just here), and yet she so often provides fuel for the fire.

I very much agree with you. It's not that the story didn't happen, it's her re-telling that is the real issue. I never heard about him chasing her, running out of the car? Prince ain't gonna chase down Sinead O'fuckingConnor, who could've ducked into any parking garage, building lobby, or whatever, to get away from him. She could've squatted behind a bush and been out of sight, especially at night time.

She does take some creative license in telling her story(ies).

If she is bipolar, and all outward evidence sorta points to that, then her talking about being married or not, being a lesbian or not, etc., is part of that. It's one of those things to take with a grain of salt. She's been in manic moments before, and said all sorts of shit. Words don't mean much to me, I just wanna know the truth. Did Prince hit her with a pillow that maybe had a copy of Harry Potter tucked in it? Did he chase her own in a car becaues apparently Prince had nothing else to do in his macabre mansion but chase Irish women around town. And what is this macabre mansion? Was it the 3121 house? The Galpin house? Paisley Park? Kiowa Trail? Where's his haunted house?

Rage, anger, bipolar - of course none of it is reason to attack her. It really just focuses attention on her in general, instead of really exploring any claim she's made against anyone.

ian said:

Sinead is so talented. None of us really know what happened with Prince, but is it such a mental leap to imagine a situation where Prince's manipulative, occasionallly bullying and controlling side would go down like a lead balloon with a strong and smart woman like Sinead, or lead to misunderstanding. Let's give them both the benefit of the doubt in the absence of a corroborating third party. Some good news, it seems she's got a healthier take on it now.

And yes, Sinead has had her problems at times and deserves our compassion. It'd be really nice if the next time this same tired story resurfaces in a couple of years (as usual, with no new info whatsoever) we all just gave it a miss and avoided the cliche of "pop star fans rabidly defending their hero against anything and everything", it's all a bit MJish isn't it?

I love this take. She seems like she's actually in a peaceful place, living alone on a hill because she wants it that way. I kind of love it. I don't sweat the Prince accusation; they both seemed to run a difficult in those days, and many after, so whatever. She's super talented, with an amazing voice, and she was right on the money with the critiscm of the Catholic Church.

TrivialPursuit said:

gandorb said:

I respect that you say this here while being a Prince fan too. I mostly agree with you. I think what works against Sinead even more than most women who speak out is that the rage she directs at so many people make it harder to differentiate the facts from over-reactivity....

However, her history of sudden and dramatic changes in what she says (I am getting married, not married, married again, and not married all in a week's time, I am gay and I am not gay in a couple of days period, and how she goes off on so many intimates hurts her overall credibility. I hate to see such a vulnerable person so attacked (in general, not just here), and yet she so often provides fuel for the fire.

I very much agree with you. It's not that the story didn't happen, it's her re-telling that is the real issue. I never heard about him chasing her, running out of the car? Prince ain't gonna chase down Sinead O'fuckingConnor, who could've ducked into any parking garage, building lobby, or whatever, to get away from him. She could've squatted behind a bush and been out of sight, especially at night time.

She does take some creative license in telling her story(ies).

If she is bipolar, and all outward evidence sorta points to that, then her talking about being married or not, being a lesbian or not, etc., is part of that. It's one of those things to take with a grain of salt. She's been in manic moments before, and said all sorts of shit. Words don't mean much to me, I just wanna know the truth. Did Prince hit her with a pillow that maybe had a copy of Harry Potter tucked in it? Did he chase her own in a car becaues apparently Prince had nothing else to do in his macabre mansion but chase Irish women around town. And what is this macabre mansion? Was it the 3121 house? The Galpin house? Paisley Park? Kiowa Trail? Where's his haunted house?

Rage, anger, bipolar - of course none of it is reason to attack her. It really just focuses attention on her in general, instead of really exploring any claim she's made against anyone.

She has been forthright about being diangosed with Bipolar and Borderline Personality, which is a double whammy. Some of her interpersonal issues seem real consistent with the borderline dynamic. The most toxic person for a person with BPD is a narcissist. Hello Prince .

The lavatory that is public forums. Quite a few very predictable responses in this thread so far. Here's hoping mental illness never happens to you or anyone else you care about.

ufoclub said:

TrivialPursuit said:

Hi everyone! I haven't posted in awhile, but i had to say something here...

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the tone is this thread seems to be that Sinead is "troubled', and therefore her story about Prince has no credibility?? And I'm not understanding why. Whatever her mental disorders, what's the reasoning for not believing her about this story?

I love him, God bless him, may he rest in peace, etc..., but Prince was an entitled jerk, who probably saw Sinead as yet another conquest he felt he should have had. I believe everyone word she said.

P.S. - How do I put empty line breaks in my posts??

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[Edited 5/20/21 11:54am]

Boy oh boy this thread has the ability is to go right off the rails at any second.

Milty2 said:

Boy oh boy this thread has the ability is to go right off the rails at any second.

Don't they all

CNickyD said:

EmmaMcG said:

There's also the fact that after she originally made these claims about Prince she went on the Graham Norton show and said that Prince was actually a nice guy and that the press had blown her original comments out of proportion. So she can't even get her own story straight.

and then there was the "Arsenio Hall was Prince's dope dealer" story,which also proved to be false.Blame it on her mental health or whatever,but she has a credibility problem.She's been caught lying several times.

She's a great artist, and not a perfect person.

He's a great artist, and not a perfect person.