OperatingThetan said:

For me, these kind of unreleased time capsule albums sequenced and produced as Prince intended are a lot more desirable and authentic. * [Edited 4/11/21 17:13pm]

+1

Release Roadhouse Garden, Madrid 2 Chicago, Hit'nRun Phase III...

To be honest the 3cds of the Sign 'o' The Times SDE are unpleasant to hear: masterworks alongside demos alongside alternate versions and filled to the brim. A lot of precious pieces are drowned in an anonymous container.

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Prince uses the 700 Billion Dollar line in Ol' Skool Company too

It's a cool little song, kinda a "stream of consciousness" thing going on. I think the references are a bit outdated but that's what happens when you shelve an album for over a decade!

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OperatingThetan said:

I'm loving it. The sound, the production, the delivery, the bass... I find this more exciting and engaging than anything else released since Prince's passing. For me, these kind of unreleased time capsule albums sequenced and produced as Prince intended are a lot more desirable and authentic. * [Edited 4/11/21 17:13pm]

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In the words of the late Ed McMahon...

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You... are... CORRECT!

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100% on the money.

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Even though the man decided not to release the album, I heard this and felt a warm wave of genuine emotion flood through. Because I felt like I was hearing the genuine article. Finished, produced, PRINCE music.

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I have made posts here about my distaste for the wholesale pilfering of his unfinished work for these "deluxe" editions. But as you point out, this seems a different case if we can, in fact, fully trust that the entire album represents what Prince intended.

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Can't wait.

Here is a well known Youtube music review channel reaction of the single. Also a big Prince fan. He says it's ok and calls it a bit "boomer" it it's commentary. Yeah that's fair. And Prince is a boomer i suppose.

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Anthony Fantano from Drop the Needle's reaction to Welcome 2 America

here is the Youtube link

https://youtu.be/_4g0VCAbSkI

Not a song.

2freaky4church1 said:

Not a song.

Er...... whut?

Also...... whut?

They can keep this shit.

vainandy said:

They can keep this shit.

stuck in the 80s

Rimshottbob said:

2freaky4church1 said:

Not a song.

Er...... whut?

Also...... whut?

Talking over a groove = not a song.

Just listened to it again, only for the second time. I don't want to "wear it out" by becoming overly familiar with it this far before the album release.

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I love the backing vocal arrangement! It's just a cool, slinky little track. Not much of a proper song, true, in terms of melody and hooks. But it just feels like right introduction to this upcoming album. I think it's a good way to draw interest and intrigue in the album. It's not like they're going to get a hit single or any significant radio play etc no matter how "good" or "bad" a single is. What even are singles for legacy artists these days? It's irrelevant.

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As a teaser, this is brilliant to my ears. I'm viewing this upcoming album release as a major event, to be quite honest. For me as a fan. I hope other fans are, too.

Play it one more time!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyJzylk8d_M

"can u imagine (dubious) in yo funk?"

Phase3 said:

Talked to a casual fan today.He heard the W2A song and said it is a cool track.

bro but the org told me that it was a terrible choice and everyone hates it and why don't we have parade sde wahhh wahhh wahhh

lustmealways said:

ludwig said:

Rimshottbob said:

Er...... whut?

Also...... whut?

Talking over a groove = not a song.

Right, so because it's not Raspberry Beret, it's 'not a song'....

Good lawd, some folks need to grow up (not directing that at you, ludwig).

But 'talking over a groove'.... suggests that the person who states this hasn't actually listened to the song.

vainandy said:

They can keep this shit.

Not really a surprise that you don't like this excellent music.

nayroo2002 said:

Play it one more time!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZyJzylk8d_M

"can u imagine (dubious) in yo funk?"

Yeah, we get it, you think it's a rip-off of 'P-Funk (Wants to get funked up)', by Parilament.

It's not.

Is it inspired by it? Sure, probably. You might even say they were similar. So?

One of the things that has continued to frustrate me with Prince's work, is his religiosity. Back in 1988, I thought he was on some journey to enlightment, possibly to a more humanist perspective. Even GB still seemed to be a conversation rather than out and out proselytising. I'm glad he found faith and comfort in his religion...I really just wish it had been a different, less certain perspective. but, that's just me.

Rimshottbob said:

RJOrion said:

Rimshottbob said:

Right, so because it's not Raspberry Beret, it's 'not a song'....

Good lawd, some folks need to grow up (not directing that at you, ludwig).

But 'talking over a groove'.... suggests that the person who states this hasn't actually listened to the song.

i guess he thinks All The Critics Love U In New York = not a song either

Most of George Clinton's catalogue are not songs apparantly

SimonCharles said:

One of the things that has continued to frustrate me with Prince's work, is his religiosity. Back in 1988, I thought he was on some journey to enlightment, possibly to a more humanist perspective. Even GB still seemed to be a conversation rather than out and out proselytising. I'm glad he found faith and comfort in his religion...I really just wish it had been a different, less certain perspective. but, that's just me.

but since it's prince it's also always not 100% genuine since first we get the talk about the book in
Welcome 2 America and then in Check The Record he's already talking about your girlfriend being in his bed so there is that. in a way his later records, despite all their in your face religion and sort of 'jehova door knocking' seem more searching and uncertain in their conviction than Lovesexy. just because he kept on slipping in those sexual things and taking out the curses and replacing them with ducks or double hockey sticks yet not just deciding to totally write around the curses and not include them at all.

dodger said:

RJOrion said:

Rimshottbob said: i guess he thinks All The Critics Love U In New York = not a song either

Most of George Clinton's catalogue are not songs apparantly

I've been saying that for 30 years now. Finally somebody agrees.

j/k

LILpoundCAKE said:

SimonCharles said:

One of the things that has continued to frustrate me with Prince's work, is his religiosity. Back in 1988, I thought he was on some journey to enlightment, possibly to a more humanist perspective. Even GB still seemed to be a conversation rather than out and out proselytising. I'm glad he found faith and comfort in his religion...I really just wish it had been a different, less certain perspective. but, that's just me.

but since it's prince it's also always not 100% genuine since first we get the talk about the book in
Welcome 2 America and then in Check The Record he's already talking about your girlfriend being in his bed so there is that. in a way his later records, despite all their in your face religion and sort of 'jehova door knocking' seem more searching and uncertain in their conviction than Lovesexy. just because he kept on slipping in those sexual things and taking out the curses and replacing them with ducks or double hockey sticks yet not just deciding to totally write around the curses and not include them at all.

That's an interesting take, yes.

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I don't think that sexuality and religiosity have to be exclusive - and, like many, I expect when Prince sang about sex and relationships he imagined he was a fidelitous person...at least for the duration of the song. Having not heard the whole of Check The Record yet, myself, I wonder what the whole stpry is? In When You Were Mine and Head it was a battle for monogamy (arguably). A further element to this is how much of this is character and how much of this is Prince - not just this album, all the albums. My experience of Lovesexy occurred when I was a teenager, simultaneously going through a 'crisis of faith' - for want of a better phrase - and both the album and the show communicated a sense of need for knowledge which, on the surface, appeared to be replaced with an assertion of faith/belief and certainty. That disappointed me then, as it does now...but then, that's because I came to a different set of conclusions, I suppose.

dodger said:

RJOrion said:

dodger said:

Most of George Clinton's catalogue are not songs apparantly

or the song "Dangerous" by Michael Jackson...or Most of James Brown's catalog...these are not songs...they were just figments of our imaginations..."Woman To Woman" by Shirley Brown, not a song...LOL...what were we thinking?

we were duped, that's what we were. victims of the evil plans of the record companies to sell us LPs and singles without songs

SimonCharles said:

One of the things that has continued to frustrate me with Prince's work, is his religiosity. Back in 1988, I thought he was on some journey to enlightment, possibly to a more humanist perspective. Even GB still seemed to be a conversation rather than out and out proselytising. I'm glad he found faith and comfort in his religion...I really just wish it had been a different, less certain perspective. but, that's just me.

I'm not entirely sure about the "book" line.

The fact that he insists on the line, it seems like he wanted a double-entendre (a Prince's classic) to be perceived. Maybe about the dangers of blind faith. It's probably hard to pinpoint when exactly ("Transition happens from deep within"), but Prince transitioned from a zealot practicing of his religion to something much more nuanced by the end of the 00’s.

So the repetition can mean "the book isn't argued enough". Good theologism, among many aspects, also means confronting and discussing passages of the scriptures.
America has lost that intellectual approach to religion.
You either believe, or you don't ("yes" or "no").

White angry men use the Bible (centuries old scriptures) as justifications for many acts or politics.
And since you can't argue with The Book, they always end up being right.


I like the mix of a fatigued, modern menace cut by Andrews Sisters’ reclame-like slogans.
It's clever, the groove is elegant, and the apex "Home of the slaves — Hit me!" is great, although one would love to hear Prince erupt into a slasher after all this false calm induced by sybilline, disenchanted lines.
Too predictable, probably.

bonatoc said:

SimonCharles said:

One of the things that has continued to frustrate me with Prince's work, is his religiosity. Back in 1988, I thought he was on some journey to enlightment, possibly to a more humanist perspective. Even GB still seemed to be a conversation rather than out and out proselytising. I'm glad he found faith and comfort in his religion...I really just wish it had been a different, less certain perspective. but, that's just me.

I'm not entirely sure about the "book" line.

The fact that he insists on the line, it seems like he wanted a double-entendre (a Prince's classic) to be perceived. Maybe about the dangers of blind faith. It's probably hard to pinpoint when exactly ("Transition happens from deep within"), but Prince transitioned from a zealot practicing of his religion to something much more nuanced by the end of the 00’s.

So the repetition can mean "the book isn't argued enough". Good theologism, among many aspects, also means confronting and discussing passages of the scriptures.
America has lost that intellectual approach to religion.
You either believe, or you don't ("yes" or "no").

White angry men use the Bible (centuries old scriptures) as justifications for many acts or politics.
And since you can't argue with The Book, they always end up being right.


I like the mix of a fatigued, modern menace cut by Andrews Sisters’ reclame-like slogans.
It's clever, the groove is elegant, and the apex "Home of the slaves — Hit me!" is great, although one would love to hear Prince erupt into a slasher after all this false calm induced by sybilline, disenchanted lines.
Too predictable, probably.

That's a nice reading. I'm not so sure he was more nuanced by the end of the 00s, but it's stil a nice reading. The Andrew Sisters' line is a insightful comment, too. Thank you.

despite it being 'not a song', it's been stuck in my head for the last couple of days now and i find myself humming or mumbling 'transformation happens deep within - yes or no?' and "we-he-he-helcome to america" all through the day, even when listening to other music

bonatoc said:

SimonCharles said:

One of the things that has continued to frustrate me with Prince's work, is his religiosity. Back in 1988, I thought he was on some journey to enlightment, possibly to a more humanist perspective. Even GB still seemed to be a conversation rather than out and out proselytising. I'm glad he found faith and comfort in his religion...I really just wish it had been a different, less certain perspective. but, that's just me.

I'm not entirely sure about the "book" line.

The fact that he insists on the line, it seems like he wanted a double-entendre (a Prince's classic) to be perceived. Maybe about the dangers of blind faith. It's probably hard to pinpoint when exactly ("Transition happens from deep within"), but Prince transitioned from a zealot practicing of his religion to something much more nuanced by the end of the 00’s.

So the repetition can mean "the book isn't argued enough". Good theologism, among many aspects, also means confronting and discussing passages of the scriptures.
America has lost that intellectual approach to religion.
You either believe, or you don't ("yes" or "no").

White angry men use the Bible (centuries old scriptures) as justifications for many acts or politics.
And since you can't argue with The Book, they always end up being right.


I like the mix of a fatigued, modern menace cut by Andrews Sisters’ reclame-like slogans.
It's clever, the groove is elegant, and the apex "Home of the slaves — Hit me!" is great, although one would love to hear Prince erupt into a slasher after all this false calm induced by sybilline, disenchanted lines.
Too predictable, probably.

i don't know. something tells me RUNNING GAME is when he will let loose good and proper, before mellowing things out again with BORN 2 DIE and 1000 LIGHT YEARS before we get a little bit of fluff and summery pop with HOT SUMMER.

it would make a lot of sense for RUNNING GAME to be something very hard and fast