Reply #210 posted 04/08/21 8:26pm
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FrankieCoco1 said:
djThunderfunk said:
Being an archivist/collector, one is likely to be anal about uniformity as the nature of collecting encourages us to be anal about all aspects of our collection. We have to be to maintain an impressive collection. When we have a shelf(shelves) of releases going back decades, displayed in chronological order, we want the new release right there in it's proper spot, not on some other shelf because it doesn't fit.
That said, some of these deluxe sets are so sweet that I figure it's worth it. 
Where will this go on the shelf, though? At the end because it’ll be the latest release or does it go after 20ten? Good job there’s three-and-a-half months until release day - that gives plenty of time to decide.
I'm talking vinyl, here, of course>
Ugh, storing Welcome 2 America at the end of the collection, as if it came after Art Official Age (Or HitNRun Vol.2 when they finally release the HitNRuns on vinyl?) Heresy!
It will go on the shelf before Plectrum Electrum and after LotusFlow3r/MPLSound.
Eventually, it will go after the 20Ten vinyl - when they get around to issuing it. Release dates essentially mean nothing in my collection. By and large, it's all about when the music was MADE. 
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Reply #211 posted 04/08/21 8:30pm
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TheEnglishGent said:
nayroo2002 said:
Am i typing chinese?
Imports always end up costing a lot. A proper world wide release is what is needed, not a region specific one.
When 'His Majesty's Pop Life' (CD) & 'Originals' (CD w/ NC2U (Cinamatic MIX)) was an "only Japanese" release, i found a way.
i'll pay the extra few for this version.
THEN, rip it to the harddrive and put it in the box next the other stuff.
i have no "shelves" "Whatever skin we're in
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Reply #212 posted 04/08/21 8:35pm
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not happening here as much but i am just so incredibly over the people that scream "they passed on 80s material for this!!!", it's so juvenile and dumb. it's been literally nothing but 80s since 2016 barring, what, one track? what a bunch of jackasses, reducing this guy's life work to a 10 year period. it's to be expected from the casuals, but it stings more when i know how awesome this release is going to be
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Reply #213 posted 04/08/21 8:41pm
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FrankieCoco1 said:
djThunderfunk said:
Being an archivist/collector, one is likely to be anal about uniformity as the nature of collecting encourages us to be anal about all aspects of our collection. We have to be to maintain an impressive collection. When we have a shelf(shelves) of releases going back decades, displayed in chronological order, we want the new release right there in it's proper spot, not on some other shelf because it doesn't fit.
That said, some of these deluxe sets are so sweet that I figure it's worth it. 
Where will this go on the shelf, though? At the end because it’ll be the latest release or does it go after 20ten? Good job there’s three-and-a-half months until release day - that gives plenty of time to decide.
And what if... BOTH answers are right? And wrong... 
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Reply #214 posted 04/08/21 8:43pm
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LoveGalore said:
kindofblue said:
Same problem here. Really looking forward to the CD, would also love to have the yinyl. But I don't own a blu-ray player. So is it really worth it to invest in another device I will probably never need again? (Although I probably will if the D&P Deluxe Set also comes with a Blu Ray )
Owning a device that only plays normal dvds in 2021 is like owning a rotary phone. Upgrade! Shits cheap af.
You can get a cheap blu-ray player, and they all play dvds and cds too. So, there's really no reason not to. If you can afford this deluxe set you can afford it.
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Reply #215 posted 04/08/21 8:56pm
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Reply #216 posted 04/08/21 9:05pm
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kindofblue said:
Hope there also is a n audio documentary by Andrea Swensson in the works! She did a really great job for SOTT deluxe, 1999 delux et al. 
Andrea, is that you?

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Reply #217 posted 04/08/21 9:11pm
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I hate to say it, but for the frst time, I might just stream this one. I want that concert, but I don't wanna pay for two vinyls I'll never use.
They could have sold me a cd/blu-ray set in a heartbeat, but doing it this way, they'll sell me nothing. PRINCE: the only man who could wear high heels and makeup and STILL steal your woman! |
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Reply #218 posted 04/08/21 9:22pm
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140 euros is really cheap for a blu ray and a CD.
In fact, knowing the CD is sold separately at 15€,the vinyl 28€, it means the blu ray only cost 97€, which is really given.
You ABSOLUTELY have to preorder now, because it could well become more expensive. I wouldn't be amazed the boxset price rises up to 300 € in a few days, which would mean only 253€ for a blu ray- which is still a good price. |
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Reply #219 posted 04/08/21 9:25pm
LoveGalore |
The W2A tour was the last one I saw. While I don't really get why they give us a CD as well as the vinyl, I'm still gonna fork out the cash because it's Prince and I'm not a miser. |
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Reply #220 posted 04/08/21 10:07pm
Milty2 |
RODSERLING said:
140 euros is really cheap for a blu ray and a CD. In fact, knowing the CD is sold separately at 15€,the vinyl 28€, it means the blu ray only cost 97€, which is really given. You ABSOLUTELY have to preorder now, because it could well become more expensive. I wouldn't be amazed the boxset price rises up to 300 € in a few days, which would mean only 253€ for a blu ray- which is still a good price.
I wasn't expecting the 1999 SDE to be sold out for this long (still don't have it) and so I just went ahead and ordered this one outright. I'll get the individual cd one day when I'm near a record store (if that ever happens again lol).
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Reply #221 posted 04/08/21 10:08pm
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"Recorded in the spring of 2010 and then mysteriously abandoned by Prince before its release"
I understand it's all marketing bullshit to turn heads and get people more interested, but clearly they have access to untold documentation and access to people who were involved in the album, so why not just ask them and get an actual reason it didn't come out? is there a reason? is there any one reason? probably not, just one of those things, but that "mysteriously shelved" tagline rubbed me the wrong way, disrespectful to the material to leave out any bits and pieces and factual information like that in the name of marketing gimmicks.
but that's a minor gripe |
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Reply #222 posted 04/08/21 10:08pm
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I can’t believe that we have to buy the deluxe set to get the embossed vellum envelope! 😒 If the milk turns out to be sour, I aint the kinda pussy to drink it! |
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Reply #223 posted 04/08/21 10:24pm
johnjames |
Really looking forward to this, was at the Hop Farm gig and this is going to take me back. |
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Reply #224 posted 04/08/21 10:31pm
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I've been waiting for this album 4 like 4ever. I was a frequent guest at the "21 Nite Stand" @ The Forum & was TOTALLY in awe of Prince Rogers Nelson's(r.i.p.) newly unveiled cut six-pack body. To be able to take friends that never experienced him live 4 only $25 was an added treat.
W2A sounds like a hit single. It would be great to use it during these racial diversity times that are the main focus. Prince(r.i.p.) was ahead of his time.

[Edited 4/8/21 19:05pm] "That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when  was doing the Purple Rain tour  had a lot of people who  knew  'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."  |
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Reply #225 posted 04/08/21 10:43pm
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kindofblue said:
Hope there also is a n audio documentary by Andrea Swensson in the works! She did a really great job for SOTT deluxe, 1999 delux et al. 
I second this. I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore... |
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Reply #226 posted 04/08/21 10:48pm
Milty2 |
Musze said:
kindofblue said:
Hope there also is a n audio documentary by Andrea Swensson in the works! She did a really great job for SOTT deluxe, 1999 delux et al. 
I second this.
3rd. |
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Reply #227 posted 04/08/21 10:50pm
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Milty2 said:
RODSERLING said: 140 euros is really cheap for a blu ray and a CD. In fact, knowing the CD is sold separately at 15€,the vinyl 28€, it means the blu ray only cost 97€, which is really given. You ABSOLUTELY have to preorder now, because it could well become more expensive. I wouldn't be amazed the boxset price rises up to 300 € in a few days, which would mean only 253€ for a blu ray- which is still a good price.
I wasn't expecting the 1999 SDE to be sold out for this long (still don't have it) and so I just went ahead and ordered this one outright. I'll get the individual cd one day when I'm near a record store (if that ever happens again lol). 1999 SDE was never out of print in France, I still see it regularly in my town. |
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Reply #228 posted 04/08/21 10:51pm
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lustmealways said: "Recorded in the spring of 2010 and then mysteriously abandoned by Prince before its release"
I understand it's all marketing bullshit to turn heads and get people more interested, but clearly they have access to untold documentation and access to people who were involved in the album, so why not just ask them and get an actual reason it didn't come out? is there a reason? is there any one reason? probably not, just one of those things, but that "mysteriously shelved" tagline rubbed me the wrong way, disrespectful to the material to leave out any bits and pieces and factual information like that in the name of marketing gimmicks.
but that's a minor gripe We all know the reason... He didn't find any label to distribute that album. Hence the four years gap. |
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Reply #229 posted 04/08/21 10:59pm
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RODSERLING said:
We all know the reason... He didn't find any label to distribute that album. Hence the four years gap.
didn't think of that, but MAKES SENSE, and i feel like a dumbass. thanks RODSERLING. |
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Reply #230 posted 04/08/21 11:38pm
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LoveGalore said: christobole said:
2freaky4church1 said:
Single aint really a song. More like some sounds and singing. Good left wing lyrics. I told you all Prince was on my team.
Well, that was ten years ago. The full scope of Obama's presidency and current "team" moves, have left many re-considering their positions. Too bad Prince can't speak for himself in 2021 - MSM, record company & estate will milk this album for its supposed context regardless. Lol. Dream on. Not only is that irrelevant to the album's release, it's also flat out not true. Republicans are in the gutter given they're the sex offending insurrectionist party. Prince wasn't either a sex offender or an insurrectionist. He was religious and didn't vote. And I'm sure a political album by a rich black person will have some interesting thoughts that may conflict with the wider public but he didn't vote for any Republicans in this lifetime or the next. [Edited 4/8/21 9:13am]  :yeahthat: I don't think Prince would be impressed by christoboble |
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Reply #231 posted 04/08/21 11:41pm
grantevans 
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ufoclub said:
LoveGalore said: christobole said:
Well, that was ten years ago. The full scope of Obama's presidency and current "team" moves, have left many re-considering their positions. Too bad Prince can't speak for himself in 2021 - MSM, record company & estate will milk this album for its supposed context regardless.
Lol. Dream on. Not only is that irrelevant to the album's release, it's also flat out not true. Republicans are in the gutter given they're the sex offending insurrectionist party. Prince wasn't either a sex offender or an insurrectionist. He was religious and didn't vote. And I'm sure a political album by a rich black person will have some interesting thoughts that may conflict with the wider public but he didn't vote for any Republicans in this lifetime or the next. [Edited 4/8/21 9:13am]
I thought he was republican leaning in the early 80's in some regards (sure he did want gun control after Lennon's assassination). Especially the song "America". He did seem politically naive to me back then. But he was young and didn't get past high school. He has always been anti-war though.
But he certanly went left and progressive in the 2010's with BLM, anti police brutality and anti racism lyrics, and even pro environmental themes. His vibe in the 90's and after on many songs and interviews mentioned deep (music biz) institutional racism.
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Reply #232 posted 04/08/21 11:46pm
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Number23 said:
lustmealways said:
what if this is the greatest album of all time
I'm listening to it now. And yes, it is the greatest album of all time. Number 23 is this a true statement. If so can we get your wonderful descriptions as per SOTT |
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Reply #233 posted 04/09/21 12:09am
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Milty2 said:
RODSERLING said:
140 euros is really cheap for a blu ray and a CD. In fact, knowing the CD is sold separately at 15€,the vinyl 28€, it means the blu ray only cost 97€, which is really given. You ABSOLUTELY have to preorder now, because it could well become more expensive. I wouldn't be amazed the boxset price rises up to 300 € in a few days, which would mean only 253€ for a blu ray- which is still a good price.
I wasn't expecting the 1999 SDE to be sold out for this long (still don't have it) and so I just went ahead and ordered this one outright. I'll get the individual cd one day when I'm near a record store (if that ever happens again lol).
JB HIFI in Australia is still selling 1999 SDE |
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Reply #234 posted 04/09/21 12:44am
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RODSERLING said: 140 euros is really cheap for a blu ray and a CD.
In fact, knowing the CD is sold separately at 15€,the vinyl 28€, it means the blu ray only cost 97€, which is really given.
You ABSOLUTELY have to preorder now, because it could well become more expensive. I wouldn't be amazed the boxset price rises up to 300 € in a few days, which would mean only 253€ for a blu ray- which is still a good price.  |
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Reply #235 posted 04/09/21 1:40am
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It's great news we have a new release on the horizon but just a few commments. I feel like these new packages are getting out of control. Being a Prince fan is turning into an expensive proposition. Also, it's bad news that our options are more limited this time (a blu-ray only available via the deluxe edition). These estate releases are smelling more like cash-ins with each release. Also, why use amateurs like Steve Parke, and that other guy, to design and package these releases? Parke openly admits he never quite knew what he was doing at PP. Does he know now? I don't know. It just doesn't feel like any of this has the shine of excellence to me. And, Jesus Christ, why release a spoken word, with no melody, as your lead single? Yes, I'll buy the deluxe but I know I'll just look at the W2A reproduction ephemera once and put away; and I'll sure as hell flip past any acadmeic essay as fast as the air is free. Just put all the music up on a subscription-based site and be done with it. Susan Rogers is right. We're all here for the music anyway. I get that this will never happen because there's less money to be made. But still, it's a shame |
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Reply #236 posted 04/09/21 3:21am
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Not sure if ya'll know this or not, but Andrea Swensson left the purple current radio station at the beginning of this month. I'd like to follow her where she goes tho, in hopes of more PRINCE stuff 
dualboot said:
kindofblue said:
Hope there also is a n audio documentary by Andrea Swensson in the works! She did a really great job for SOTT deluxe, 1999 delux et al. 
Andrea, is that you?

you are right. Those specials were a great addition to the releases.
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Reply #237 posted 04/09/21 3:36am
Reply #238 posted 04/09/21 3:37am
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LoveGalore said: christobole said:
2freaky4church1 said:
Single aint really a song. More like some sounds and singing. Good left wing lyrics. I told you all Prince was on my team.
Well, that was ten years ago. The full scope of Obama's presidency and current "team" moves, have left many re-considering their positions. Too bad Prince can't speak for himself in 2021 - MSM, record company & estate will milk this album for its supposed context regardless. Lol. Dream on. Not only is that irrelevant to the album's release, it's also flat out not true. Republicans are in the gutter given they're the sex offending insurrectionist party. Prince wasn't either a sex offender or an insurrectionist. He was religious and didn't vote. And I'm sure a political album by a rich black person will have some interesting thoughts that may conflict with the wider public but he didn't vote for any Republicans in this lifetime or the next. [Edited 4/8/21 9:13am]Thats a lot of strawmen |
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Reply #239 posted 04/09/21 4:18am
christobole |
grantevans said:
LoveGalore said:
Lol. Dream on. Not only is that irrelevant to the album's release, it's also flat out not true. Republicans are in the gutter given they're the sex offending insurrectionist party. Prince wasn't either a sex offender or an insurrectionist. He was religious and didn't vote. And I'm sure a political album by a rich black person will have some interesting thoughts that may conflict with the wider public but he didn't vote for any Republicans in this lifetime or the next. [Edited 4/8/21 9:13am]
I don't think Prince would be impressed by christoboble
No, I don't think he was. After the El Rey Theatre press conference / show in 2003 (or was it 2004?) and on his way to his limousine, he walked right in front of me, staring up and right into the eyes of this 6'3" man. Didn't look impressed. Perhaps intimidated. |
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