thebanishedone said:

SeventeenDayze said:

It has been a while since I last logged in to this site and I see that there's still a contingency that loves to trash Prince on his own fansite. Nothing seems to change around here. It's crazy that so many people come on a damn FAN SITE just to talk smack about the artist. I wish they would just make their own separate website and then post on there and leave the rest of us alone to appreciate Prince for the genius that he was.

yeah man,i'm a troll and you are a nice guy ,so what such a nice guy is doing on this topic? spreading the gospel? yeah i trash Prince because i said he was great at prtesentation but his technique was not great as some people pretend it is.problem is with some of you obsesed fans who think that their obsession is more valid than any kind of objective criticism

that is the problem.in this discussion you will see that not a single person was negative ,but if for you somebody saying i like Prince but i can find you 100 better guitar players in the terms of technique.so you find that as insult.just because he was not uber techniqual it don't dismiss his appeal in general.but i guess trying to explain to some of you guys is mission impossible

First of all I am not a guy. Second, it is really amazing how you refuse to see how ridiculous it is to come on a fan site and trash the musician the fan site is named for. Are YOU a better musician, singer, performer than Prince? I think the fuck not you aren't. If you wanna talk overrated then talk about Elvis. How the hell does someone imitate other performers and then gets called the King? That's fucking ridiculous. Or lets talk about how the Beatles are overrated. Wanna discuss that???

SeventeenDayze said:

thebanishedone said:

yeah man,i'm a troll and you are a nice guy ,so what such a nice guy is doing on this topic? spreading the gospel? yeah i trash Prince because i said he was great at prtesentation but his technique was not great as some people pretend it is.problem is with some of you obsesed fans who think that their obsession is more valid than any kind of objective criticism

that is the problem.in this discussion you will see that not a single person was negative ,but if for you somebody saying i like Prince but i can find you 100 better guitar players in the terms of technique.so you find that as insult.just because he was not uber techniqual it don't dismiss his appeal in general.but i guess trying to explain to some of you guys is mission impossible

First of all I am not a guy. Second, it is really amazing how you refuse to see how ridiculous it is to come on a fan site and trash the musician the fan site is named for. Are YOU a better musician, singer, performer than Prince? I think the fuck not you aren't. If you wanna talk overrated then talk about Elvis. How the hell does someone imitate other performers and then gets called the King? That's fucking ridiculous. Or lets talk about how the Beatles are overrated. Wanna discuss that???

of course i'm not better than Prince.Prince was God. But i'm 110% i'm better musician than u,i'm not even sure you know how to play,yet you come and call me a troll.At least i know what i'm talking about ,do you know?

this is my video playing Prince https://easyupload.io/meoppz ,now you show me yours ,ok

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thebanishedone said:

...yeah but I'll take miko chucking over one chord over most other guitar music. And I love the guitar. Like I love Paco de Lucia, in terms of skill there's not many better players than him in the world. But there's something about a guitar going bunnachikidibabuh bunnachikidibun that just kills me lol I'd probably be lying if I said I liked any guitar style better than that.

So even if I think one is better, but I like the other more... what does that mean? What's the value in me saying the other one is better? Do I want to convince more people to listen to the one I like or the one I think is better? Do I want more people to play like the one I like or the one I think is better? Do I want people in posterity to remember the one I like or the one I think is better?

Talking specifically about technical skills and their applications is one thing, insofar as the improved ability to express, but the whole better than, overrated, underrated doesn't really hold water in my mind.

masaba said:

thebanishedone said:

yes,doctor learns 2 operate in practice,but i can't agree techniquality don't matter after all Prince had good technique,fast picking,nice legato style,i'm always 4 emotional display but you need some technique and maybe u think what you have learned in school don't matter but i bet it does help you in certain situations after all music is science in a way.

...yeah but I'll take miko chucking over one chord over most other guitar music. And I love the guitar. Like I love Paco de Lucia, in terms of skill there's not many better players than him in the world. But there's something about a guitar going bunnachikidibabuh bunnachikidibun that just kills me lol I'd probably be lying if I said I liked any guitar style better than that. So even if I think one is better, but I like the other more... what does that mean? What's the value in me saying the other one is better? Do I want to convince more people to listen to the one I like or the one I think is better? Do I want more people to play like the one I like or the one I think is better? Do I want people in posterity to remember the one I like or the one I think is better? Talking specifically about technical skills and their applications is one thing, insofar as the improved ability to express, but the whole better than, overrated, underrated doesn't really hold water in my mind.

i like funk guitar as well,it's not about convincing somebody about anything,it's about over exagarated myths about his musicianship.On the emotional level Prince is 1 of the best,but in terms of the actual content of what he plays he is not good as many like to believe.Play Prince to somebody who is not a fan and who is a musician. There is a big chance they will like what they hear but i doubt many would say "wow i never heard anybody play guitar like that"

So tired of this thread. Ugh

What you actually wrote on the OP was "Prince is a good rhythm guitar player but as a soloist his playing is average or even below....it's hard for me to pretend that he is amazing on guitar bass piano and drums when he is just average even to pop music standards."

Implicit in that is that pop music standards are below e.g. jazz and classical.

Now you write "Prince is God".

God is below average? You have high standards!

RichardS said:

Letitgo

thebanishedone said:

SeventeenDayze said:

First of all I am not a guy. Second, it is really amazing how you refuse to see how ridiculous it is to come on a fan site and trash the musician the fan site is named for. Are YOU a better musician, singer, performer than Prince? I think the fuck not you aren't. If you wanna talk overrated then talk about Elvis. How the hell does someone imitate other performers and then gets called the King? That's fucking ridiculous. Or lets talk about how the Beatles are overrated. Wanna discuss that???

of course i'm not better than Prince.Prince was God. But i'm 110% i'm better musician than u,i'm not even sure you know how to play,yet you come and call me a troll.At least i know what i'm talking about ,do you know?

this is my video playing Prince https://easyupload.io/meoppz ,now you show me yours ,ok

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You called yourself a troll. Why are you getting upset because most of us don't agree with you? That's what happens when you post nonsense on a fan site!

RichardS said:

What you actually wrote on the OP was "Prince is a good rhythm guitar player but as a soloist his playing is average or even below....it's hard for me to pretend that he is amazing on guitar bass piano and drums when he is just average even to pop music standards."

Implicit in that is that pop music standards are below e.g. jazz and classical.

Now you write "Prince is God".

God is below average? You have high standards!

Ok his playing is not bellow average,but his technique is average.

As a whole package Prince is more interesting than others. On every instrument he played you have

much better players.But they are not all that Prince was.

He was a very good guitar player in terms of his emotion,his projection on the instruments but his musical vocabulary was not rich as pro musicians who are dedicated to 1 instrument.

It is a totally different thing when you say hey Prince didn't have the best technique on piano,guitar bass drums but i like his feel so for me he is the best .

People on this thread who arguee with me just don't accept that he was not a virtuoso,he didn't have amazing technique so there is a melting point. he is one of my favourite guitar players and he will always be but i don't think that what he did on instruments was amazing,but his feel was amazing.

68686 said:

RichardS said:

What you actually wrote on the OP was "Prince is a good rhythm guitar player but as a soloist his playing is average or even below....it's hard for me to pretend that he is amazing on guitar bass piano and drums when he is just average even to pop music standards."

Implicit in that is that pop music standards are below e.g. jazz and classical.

Now you write "Prince is God".

God is below average? You have high standards!

Letitgo

Lol. Nice

SeventeenDayze said:

thebanishedone said:

of course i'm not better than Prince.Prince was God. But i'm 110% i'm better musician than u,i'm not even sure you know how to play,yet you come and call me a troll.At least i know what i'm talking about ,do you know?

this is my video playing Prince https://easyupload.io/meoppz ,now you show me yours ,ok

[Edited 4/24/21 12:00pm]

You called yourself a troll. Why are you getting upset because most of us don't agree with you? That's what happens when you post nonsense on a fan site!

most of you? if you have bothered to read you would see that at least half of the people on this thread do agree with me or at least they understand what i wanted to say.Prince is my hero as well but i'm discussing the techniqual aspect of how and what he played.not dismissing him,in pop music he was either second best after Stevie or the best imo.

thebanishedone said:

SeventeenDayze said:

You called yourself a troll. Why are you getting upset because most of us don't agree with you? That's what happens when you post nonsense on a fan site!

most of you? if you have bothered to read you would see that at least half of the people on this thread do agree with me or at least they understand what i wanted to say.Prince is my hero as well but i'm discussing the techniqual aspect of how and what he played.not dismissing him,in pop music he was either second best after Stevie or the best imo.

There are a lot of people who disagree with you and I am one of them. What is there to prove by posting this? Prince was one of the best musicians in the world and has been called as such. Okay so you disagree. Who cares? It doesn't change his legacy and his music will be listened to even 100 years from now. If you don't want people disagreeing with you then maybe don't post this crap on a fan site.

RichardS said:

What you actually wrote on the OP was "Prince is a good rhythm guitar player but as a soloist his playing is average or even below....it's hard for me to pretend that he is amazing on guitar bass piano and drums when he is just average even to pop music standards."

Implicit in that is that pop music standards are below e.g. jazz and classical.

Now you write "Prince is God".

God is below average? You have high standards!

i will explain what is bellow average in his guitar playing only from a techniqual point of you.

His vibrato on guitar was too fast and it was not a correct way ,yes it was emotional but regarding vibrato he couldn't hold a candle to Eric Clapton,Dave Gillmoure,guitar players from Eagles.

The way he was pressing the strings was very raw,it was more raw than somebody who plays guitar for a long time plays. Take Hotel California guitar solo as an example of subtle,great vibrato,great feel. so in that aspect he was subpar and those who play guitar would hardly disagree.

Prince is much more interesting guitar player to me than any of the guys mentioned above,but those guys had more finesse in their playing.

SeventeenDayze said:

thebanishedone said:

most of you? if you have bothered to read you would see that at least half of the people on this thread do agree with me or at least they understand what i wanted to say.Prince is my hero as well but i'm discussing the techniqual aspect of how and what he played.not dismissing him,in pop music he was either second best after Stevie or the best imo.

There are a lot of people who disagree with you and I am one of them. What is there to prove by posting this? Prince was one of the best musicians in the world and has been called as such. Okay so you disagree. Who cares? It doesn't change his legacy and his music will be listened to even 100 years from now. If you don't want people disagreeing with you then maybe don't post this crap on a fan site.

ok i disagee based on some actual things that i wrote about,you disagree because you read on internet that Prince is one of the best.or did you learn his parts on instruments and analysed? i highly doubt thats the case by what you wrote so far.maybe its crap for you because you are just a music listener who don't even know how many strings guitar have.

thebanishedone said:

RichardS said:

What you actually wrote on the OP was "Prince is a good rhythm guitar player but as a soloist his playing is average or even below....it's hard for me to pretend that he is amazing on guitar bass piano and drums when he is just average even to pop music standards."

Implicit in that is that pop music standards are below e.g. jazz and classical.

Now you write "Prince is God".

God is below average? You have high standards!

i will explain what is bellow average in his guitar playing only from a techniqual point of you.

His vibrato on guitar was too fast and it was not a correct way ,yes it was emotional but regarding vibrato he couldn't hold a candle to Eric Clapton,Dave Gillmoure,guitar players from Eagles.

The way he was pressing the strings was very raw,it was more raw than somebody who plays guitar for a long time plays. Take Hotel California guitar solo as an example of subtle,great vibrato,great feel. so in that aspect he was subpar and those who play guitar would hardly disagree.

Prince is much more interesting guitar player to me than any of the guys mentioned above,but those guys had more finesse in their playing.

That's a bit like saying Eugene O'Neill was below average because he wasn't as good as Shakespeare or Miller or Williams.

thebanishedone said:

SeventeenDayze said:

There are a lot of people who disagree with you and I am one of them. What is there to prove by posting this? Prince was one of the best musicians in the world and has been called as such. Okay so you disagree. Who cares? It doesn't change his legacy and his music will be listened to even 100 years from now. If you don't want people disagreeing with you then maybe don't post this crap on a fan site.

ok i disagee based on some actual things that i wrote about,you disagree because you read on internet that Prince is one of the best.or did you learn his parts on instruments and analysed? i highly doubt thats the case by what you wrote so far.maybe its crap for you because you are just a music listener who don't even know how many strings guitar have.

Now you're just being ridiculous. Why don't you log the fuck off and take this nonsense to some place that isn't a fan site. You're mental. Arguing with FANS on a FAN SITE. I don't need any "internet articles" to think of Prince as being one of the greatest musicians of his generation. I think you're just bitter and miserable and have nothing better to do than to discredit Prince and anyone who doesn't agree with your nonsense. BYE!

SeventeenDayze said:

thebanishedone said:

ok i disagee based on some actual things that i wrote about,you disagree because you read on internet that Prince is one of the best.or did you learn his parts on instruments and analysed? i highly doubt thats the case by what you wrote so far.maybe its crap for you because you are just a music listener who don't even know how many strings guitar have.

Now you're just being ridiculous. Why don't you log the fuck off and take this nonsense to some place that isn't a fan site. You're mental. Arguing with FANS on a FAN SITE. I don't need any "internet articles" to think of Prince as being one of the greatest musicians of his generation. I think you're just bitter and miserable and have nothing better to do than to discredit Prince and anyone who doesn't agree with your nonsense. BYE!

why don't you try to learn to play an instrument,than maybe you would have an idea what i'm talking about and you can tell to your family to log the f..k off not me you silly obsessed fan

RichardS said:

thebanishedone said:

i will explain what is bellow average in his guitar playing only from a techniqual point of you.

His vibrato on guitar was too fast and it was not a correct way ,yes it was emotional but regarding vibrato he couldn't hold a candle to Eric Clapton,Dave Gillmoure,guitar players from Eagles.

The way he was pressing the strings was very raw,it was more raw than somebody who plays guitar for a long time plays. Take Hotel California guitar solo as an example of subtle,great vibrato,great feel. so in that aspect he was subpar and those who play guitar would hardly disagree.

Prince is much more interesting guitar player to me than any of the guys mentioned above,but those guys had more finesse in their playing.

That's a bit like saying Eugene O'Neill was below average because he wasn't as good as Shakespeare or Miller or Williams.

i agree,it don't bother me at all,but thats what i noticed often being mentioned by guitarists who are not fans but they hear his playing.

SeventeenDayze said:

thebanishedone said:

ok i disagee based on some actual things that i wrote about,you disagree because you read on internet that Prince is one of the best.or did you learn his parts on instruments and analysed? i highly doubt thats the case by what you wrote so far.maybe its crap for you because you are just a music listener who don't even know how many strings guitar have.

Now you're just being ridiculous. Why don't you log the fuck off and take this nonsense to some place that isn't a fan site. You're mental. Arguing with FANS on a FAN SITE. I don't need any "internet articles" to think of Prince as being one of the greatest musicians of his generation. I think you're just bitter and miserable and have nothing better to do than to discredit Prince and anyone who doesn't agree with your nonsense. BYE!

I think he is not discrediting Prince at all, it is just his honest opinion on Prince. He loves Prince FFS. You are taking it way too far with the insults here. You are discrediting yourself and you come across as a 'fam' who is taking her Prince adulation a bit too far IMO.

funkaholic1972 said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Now you're just being ridiculous. Why don't you log the fuck off and take this nonsense to some place that isn't a fan site. You're mental. Arguing with FANS on a FAN SITE. I don't need any "internet articles" to think of Prince as being one of the greatest musicians of his generation. I think you're just bitter and miserable and have nothing better to do than to discredit Prince and anyone who doesn't agree with your nonsense. BYE!

I think he is not discrediting Prince at all, it is just his honest opinion on Prince. He loves Prince FFS. You are taking it way too far with the insults here. You are discrediting yourself and you come across as a 'fam' who is taking her Prince adulation a bit too far IMO.

thank you Funkaholic,of course i love Prince.

This is a fan site but that don't mean everything you write should be super positive. i remember reading reviews of albums and live performances and i did enjoy an honest perspective from fans.And when they wrote i wish he playd less hits more obscure stuff,too much Shelby... i don't think being honest or giving your perspective should be basis of potencial insults.

funkaholic1972 said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Now you're just being ridiculous. Why don't you log the fuck off and take this nonsense to some place that isn't a fan site. You're mental. Arguing with FANS on a FAN SITE. I don't need any "internet articles" to think of Prince as being one of the greatest musicians of his generation. I think you're just bitter and miserable and have nothing better to do than to discredit Prince and anyone who doesn't agree with your nonsense. BYE!

I think he is not discrediting Prince at all, it is just his honest opinion on Prince. He loves Prince FFS. You are taking it way too far with the insults here. You are discrediting yourself and you come across as a 'fam' who is taking her Prince adulation a bit too far IMO.

Looks like you didn't read my other comments and just wanted to attack me for disagreeing with him. I asked him what qualifies him to say that Prince wasn't as good as a musician. Wouldn't you think that someone would need to have musical expertise to say that someone else, especially a professional musican such as Prince, wasn't as proficient? It's one thing to say that you don't care for someone's music, songs, etc. and that's fine because that is an opinion based on what your taste is. But I find it ridiculous that someone who probably doesn't have the same musical ability as Prince is saying Prince wasn't that great of a musician.

So you can calm down and get better reading comprehension skills instead of being upset with me for disagreeing with another bird on this site. This IS a fan site so you will deal with it.

SeventeenDayze said:

funkaholic1972 said:

I think he is not discrediting Prince at all, it is just his honest opinion on Prince. He loves Prince FFS. You are taking it way too far with the insults here. You are discrediting yourself and you come across as a 'fam' who is taking her Prince adulation a bit too far IMO.

Looks like you didn't read my other comments and just wanted to attack me for disagreeing with him. I asked him what qualifies him to say that Prince wasn't as good as a musician. Wouldn't you think that someone would need to have musical expertise to say that someone else, especially a professional musican such as Prince, wasn't as proficient? It's one thing to say that you don't care for someone's music, songs, etc. and that's fine because that is an opinion based on what your taste is. But I find it ridiculous that someone who probably doesn't have the same musical ability as Prince is saying Prince wasn't that great of a musician.

So you can calm down and get better reading comprehension skills instead of being upset with me for disagreeing with another bird on this site. This IS a fan site so you will deal with it.

Looks like it's you who didn't ;listen.like i said i am a musician i play guitar and piano

example of me playing a Prince song : https://easyupload.io/fb8wtt so you see i can play,can you? judging by your comments i highly doubt you know anything about musicianship.So i gave you a link where you can see my playing,what about yours. like i said based on your immature childish comments and insults i doubt you ever touch an instrument

thebanishedone said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Looks like you didn't read my other comments and just wanted to attack me for disagreeing with him. I asked him what qualifies him to say that Prince wasn't as good as a musician. Wouldn't you think that someone would need to have musical expertise to say that someone else, especially a professional musican such as Prince, wasn't as proficient? It's one thing to say that you don't care for someone's music, songs, etc. and that's fine because that is an opinion based on what your taste is. But I find it ridiculous that someone who probably doesn't have the same musical ability as Prince is saying Prince wasn't that great of a musician.

So you can calm down and get better reading comprehension skills instead of being upset with me for disagreeing with another bird on this site. This IS a fan site so you will deal with it.

Looks like it's you who didn't ;listen.like i said i am a musician i play guitar and piano

example of me playing a Prince song : https://easyupload.io/fb8wtt so you see i can play,can you? judging by your comments i highly doubt you know anything about musicianship.So i gave you a link where you can see my playing,what about yours. like i said based on your immature childish comments and insults i doubt you ever touch an instrument

You're caling me immature and childish and think I'm going to click on a link to watch you play? Wake me up when you amass a $200 million fortune from a 40-year career winning an Oscar and Grammys. I never said you weren't a musician. I clearly questioned your ABILITY and wondered what made you have any qualification to say Prince wasn't gifted. Got it now?

SeventeenDayze said:

thebanishedone said:

Looks like it's you who didn't ;listen.like i said i am a musician i play guitar and piano

example of me playing a Prince song : https://easyupload.io/fb8wtt so you see i can play,can you? judging by your comments i highly doubt you know anything about musicianship.So i gave you a link where you can see my playing,what about yours. like i said based on your immature childish comments and insults i doubt you ever touch an instrument

You're caling me immature and childish and think I'm going to click on a link to watch you play? Wake me up when you amass a $200 million fortune from a 40-year career winning an Oscar and Grammys. I never said you weren't a musician. I clearly questioned your ABILITY and wondered what made you have any qualification to say Prince wasn't gifted. Got it now?

Prince was very gifted.even if he was only a singer he would had a great career.But he was very good on 4 instruments beside vocals. better than most of people who play a bit those instruments.it's very hard to master 1 instrument not to mention playing those on a professional level. He was very good

but he was not as good on single instument as people who spend 10 hours practicing 1 instrument.

Prince didn't have 10 hours to do so.he had million other things to do in 1 day so it's a miracle he was good as he was. On emotional level he was one of the best,but on pure techniqual level he was very good but not as good as some people like to think.In the end he didn't need to be cause songwriting is always more important than playing complicated musical parts.

So that is what i wanted to say,and this is just a discussion.it wont change anything.it wont diminish any of his acomplisments,this discussion will be forgotten in a month

thebanishedone said:

SeventeenDayze said:

You're caling me immature and childish and think I'm going to click on a link to watch you play? Wake me up when you amass a $200 million fortune from a 40-year career winning an Oscar and Grammys. I never said you weren't a musician. I clearly questioned your ABILITY and wondered what made you have any qualification to say Prince wasn't gifted. Got it now?

Prince was very gifted.even if he was only a singer he would had a great career.But he was very good on 4 instruments beside vocals. better than most of people who play a bit those instruments.it's very hard to master 1 instrument not to mention playing those on a professional level. He was very good

but he was not as good on single instument as people who spend 10 hours practicing 1 instrument.

Prince didn't have 10 hours to do so.he had million other things to do in 1 day so it's a miracle he was good as he was. On emotional level he was one of the best,but on pure techniqual level he was very good but not as good as some people like to think.In the end he didn't need to be cause songwriting is always more important than playing complicated musical parts.

So that is what i wanted to say,and this is just a discussion.it wont change anything.it wont diminish any of his acomplisments,this discussion will be forgotten in a month

Music all boils down to taste. It's impossible to say one musician is better than another because people have different ideas about what good is. You mentioned something about Prince not having as good of a vibrato on guitar as others but I thought about how Jimi Hendrix used distortion in ways that had never been done before. Hendrix wasn't a three-chord guitar player and I bet most people would say he was a better guitar player than someone like Elvis but for some reason people call Elvis the King of Rock n Roll even though Jimi Hendrix paved the way for heavy metal, grunge, etc.

I think because there has been so much negativity on the Org over the years about Prince it's hard to know when someone is genuine about discussing certain aspects of his life. I agree that I've never seen Prince play 27 instruments but I believe he's a one of a kind and we'll never have another Prince.

SeventeenDayze said:

thebanishedone said:

Prince was very gifted.even if he was only a singer he would had a great career.But he was very good on 4 instruments beside vocals. better than most of people who play a bit those instruments.it's very hard to master 1 instrument not to mention playing those on a professional level. He was very good

but he was not as good on single instument as people who spend 10 hours practicing 1 instrument.

Prince didn't have 10 hours to do so.he had million other things to do in 1 day so it's a miracle he was good as he was. On emotional level he was one of the best,but on pure techniqual level he was very good but not as good as some people like to think.In the end he didn't need to be cause songwriting is always more important than playing complicated musical parts.

So that is what i wanted to say,and this is just a discussion.it wont change anything.it wont diminish any of his acomplisments,this discussion will be forgotten in a month

Music all boils down to taste. It's impossible to say one musician is better than another because people have different ideas about what good is. You mentioned something about Prince not having as good of a vibrato on guitar as others but I thought about how Jimi Hendrix used distortion in ways that had never been done before. Hendrix wasn't a three-chord guitar player and I bet most people would say he was a better guitar player than someone like Elvis but for some reason people call Elvis the King of Rock n Roll even though Jimi Hendrix paved the way for heavy metal, grunge, etc.

I think because there has been so much negativity on the Org over the years about Prince it's hard to know when someone is genuine about discussing certain aspects of his life. I agree that I've never seen Prince play 27 instruments but I believe he's a one of a kind and we'll never have another Prince.

Prince was one of a kind.Well Elvis was more safe,had wider appeal and he was white,thats why they call Elvis the King,but i have a feeling Elvis was very humble ion the eyes of true rock'nroll kings and those were Little Richard,Jerry Lee Lewis and Chuck Berry. Elvis looked good with guitar but that was a part of a pose an image and it did cement some of the trademark rock moves on scene.But without Elvis even Hendrix would be different. If i had a chance to choose am i going to see Prince or some Jazz rock band live i would choose Prince.Maybe Prince will not play on their level but it would deffinetly be a more entertaining show. You can say that music is more entertainment than art ,so being good at entertaining,working the crowd is very important and Prince was master at doing that.So when we put on papper what Prince could do it's more than what majority of people can do. So i will never try to argue that Prince is not along Frank Sinatra,Sammie Davies jr and Elvis one of the only guys who had number 1 single,movie and album at the same time.He acomplished alot. my topic was against some crazy online claims i've seen about Prince.Never was my intention to dismiss Prince,if i tried that than what a fool would i be cause i spent better time of being on planet earth being a big fan

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thebanishedone said:

SeventeenDayze said:

Music all boils down to taste. It's impossible to say one musician is better than another because people have different ideas about what good is. You mentioned something about Prince not having as good of a vibrato on guitar as others but I thought about how Jimi Hendrix used distortion in ways that had never been done before. Hendrix wasn't a three-chord guitar player and I bet most people would say he was a better guitar player than someone like Elvis but for some reason people call Elvis the King of Rock n Roll even though Jimi Hendrix paved the way for heavy metal, grunge, etc.

I think because there has been so much negativity on the Org over the years about Prince it's hard to know when someone is genuine about discussing certain aspects of his life. I agree that I've never seen Prince play 27 instruments but I believe he's a one of a kind and we'll never have another Prince.

Prince was one of a kind.Well Elvis was more safe,had wider appeal and he was white,thats why they call Elvis the King,but i have a feeling Elvis was very humble ion the eyes of true rock'nroll kings and those were Little Richard,Jerry Lee Lewis and Chuck Berry. Elvis looked good with guitar but that was a part of a pose an image and it did cement some of the trademark rock moves on scene.But without Elvis even Hendrix would be different. If i had a chance to choose am i going to see Prince or some Jazz rock band live i would choose Prince.Maybe Prince will not play on their level but it would deffinetly be a more entertaining show. You can say that music is more entertainment than art ,so being good at entertaining,working the crowd is very important and Prince was master at doing that.So when we put on papper what Prince could do it's more than what majority of people can do. So i will never try to argue that Prince is not along Frank Sinatra,Sammie Davies jr and Elvis one of the only guys who had number 1 single,movie and album at the same time.He acomplished alot. my topic was against some crazy online claims i've seen about Prince.Never was my intention to dismiss Prince,if i tried that than what a fool would i be cause i spent better time of being on planet earth being a big fan

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I think Hendrix would have still been Hendrix without Elvis. They had nothing in common. I think what can be upsetting sometimes is that artists like Elvis or The Beatles never have their talents or legacy questioned and they are "protected" but artist like Prince or Michael Jackson don't get that same treatment. It seems like every artist that can carry a tune is compared to or even called "The next Michael Jackson". It's ridiculous.

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Vannormal said:

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Yawn.

Pizza & cheap wine anyone ?

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I'll have some!

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Vannormal said:

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I'll have some!

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