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Reply #90 posted 01/17/21 7:33pm

jfenster

Black Sabbath r releasing deluxe versions of 3 albums next month...
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Reply #91 posted 01/17/21 9:49pm

RODSERLING

Maybe we won't get anything this year actually. Then you ll be happy.
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Reply #92 posted 01/17/21 10:14pm

Phase3

RODSERLING said:

Maybe we won't get anything this year actually. Then you ll be happy.


sad
Idk about everyone else here but I will take anything prince related I can get.
They can postpone re issues or deluxe and just release the 3121 movie and I will be delighted
[Edited 1/17/21 22:14pm]
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Reply #93 posted 01/17/21 11:28pm

lustmealways

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jaycrawford told me in private that this 80s elitist attitude is just a tough guy act he puts on when everyone's watching. behind closed doors he thinks that gold experience is a top 5 prince album and he was able to sing the whole rap from "johnny" to me word for word.

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Reply #94 posted 01/17/21 11:48pm

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Phase3 said:

RODSERLING said:
Maybe we won't get anything this year actually. Then you ll be happy.
sad Idk about everyone else here but I will take anything prince related I can get. They can postpone re issues or deluxe and just release the 3121 movie and I will be delighted [Edited 1/17/21 22:14pm]

Now THAT is something I would like to see. The 3121 album feels a bit incomplete to me without the movie to accompany that project, especially because it says "the music" on the album, so there should also be "the movie".

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Reply #95 posted 01/18/21 3:51am

Nasalhair

Parade, absolutely 100%.


Actually don't think I'd bother buying a SDE of D&P. Not an album of his that I really care for, and the thought of extra Tony M... No thanks.

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Reply #96 posted 01/18/21 8:04am

Vannormal

jfenster said:

Black Sabbath r releasing deluxe versions of 3 albums next month...

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1. Well, their fans are older than Prince fans.

2. those deluxe boxes are not at all that deluxe

4. there isn't so much unreleased music to search for and to assemble

5. probably the original tapes and such are better maintained than Prince's

3. remastering their music seems easier to do than Prince's

6. their businesses and contractual shit is also less complicated than Prince's

(you may slap me for my incompetent knowledge for that matter) wink

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Reply #97 posted 01/18/21 8:06am

love2thenines2
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Nasalhair said:

Parade, absolutely 100%.



Actually don't think I'd bother buying a SDE of D&P. Not an album of his that I really care for, and the thought of extra Tony M... No thanks.




U should care of....because it's the next SPD....unfortunately not Parade!
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Reply #98 posted 01/18/21 8:42am

RODSERLING

Phase3 said:

RODSERLING said:

Maybe we won't get anything this year actually. Then you ll be happy.


sad
Idk about everyone else here but I will take anything prince related I can get.
They can postpone re issues or deluxe and just release the 3121 movie and I will be delighted
[Edited 1/17/21 22:14pm]


I would take anything too.
The thing is, with the bad economic conjuncture, plus the various shutdown s and curfews due to the Covid, if the estate see the bad vibes here concerning the D&P project, they may as well decide to go full streaming for this release.
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If WB chose D&P over Parade this year, it s for obvious legal reasons. They can wait for Parade, but it s their last year to re release D&P, before it falls in another legal imbroglio.
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Criticizing a project we don't know anything about ( number of CD's, tracklist, price, etc.) Is nothing more but trolling. Which is too common here.
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I think the great advantage of D&P, is to have a chance of having a HD concert release, for once, instead of a VHS quality of a Parade tour.
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Reply #99 posted 01/18/21 9:26am

KoolEaze

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RODSERLING said:

Phase3 said:
sad Idk about everyone else here but I will take anything prince related I can get. They can postpone re issues or deluxe and just release the 3121 movie and I will be delighted [Edited 1/17/21 22:14pm]
I would take anything too. The thing is, with the bad economic conjuncture, plus the various shutdown s and curfews due to the Covid, if the estate see the bad vibes here concerning the D&P project, they may as well decide to go full streaming for this release. . If WB chose D&P over Parade this year, it s for obvious legal reasons. They can wait for Parade, but it s their last year to re release D&P, before it falls in another legal imbroglio. . Criticizing a project we don't know anything about ( number of CD's, tracklist, price, etc.) Is nothing more but trolling. Which is too common here. . I think the great advantage of D&P, is to have a chance of having a HD concert release, for once, instead of a VHS quality of a Parade tour.

That would be something I´m really looking forward to.....a professionally shot concert of a D&P show. Sure, there´s lots of other things I´d appreciate to be released but there are some great D&P shows that I´ve only heard as audience recording quality bootlegs or recorded with a shaky camera, and I think that the D&P show is very underrated these days.

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What´s with the legal reasons to release a D&P SDE earlier than Parade? I´m a layman in this regard and both albums were released when he was still under a contract with WB, so what´s the difference? You seem to know the details.

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Reply #100 posted 01/18/21 12:43pm

RODSERLING

KoolEaze said:



RODSERLING said:


Phase3 said:
sad Idk about everyone else here but I will take anything prince related I can get. They can postpone re issues or deluxe and just release the 3121 movie and I will be delighted [Edited 1/17/21 22:14pm]

I would take anything too. The thing is, with the bad economic conjuncture, plus the various shutdown s and curfews due to the Covid, if the estate see the bad vibes here concerning the D&P project, they may as well decide to go full streaming for this release. . If WB chose D&P over Parade this year, it s for obvious legal reasons. They can wait for Parade, but it s their last year to re release D&P, before it falls in another legal imbroglio. . Criticizing a project we don't know anything about ( number of CD's, tracklist, price, etc.) Is nothing more but trolling. Which is too common here. . I think the great advantage of D&P, is to have a chance of having a HD concert release, for once, instead of a VHS quality of a Parade tour.

That would be something I´m really looking forward to.....a professionally shot concert of a D&P show. Sure, there´s lots of other things I´d appreciate to be released but there are some great D&P shows that I´ve only heard as audience recording quality bootlegs or recorded with a shaky camera, and I think that the D&P show is very underrated these days.


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What´s with the legal reasons to release a D&P SDE earlier than Parade? I´m a layman in this regard and both albums were released when he was still under a contract with WB, so what´s the difference? You seem to know the details.



WB will soon be able to release only reissues of soundtracks ( Parade, PR, GB and Batman).
The others WB albums will be partly owned by Sony... But Sony won't be able to release the vault tracks recorded under WB... So there will be a new legal fuck-up that would last for years.
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Reply #101 posted 01/18/21 12:52pm

Se7en

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RODSERLING said:

Se7en said:

I just hope that whatever comes out next is affordable. SOTT:SDE, regardless of how amazing it is, it's just too expensive. If the new sets are that expensive, count me out.

1999:SDE was much more realistic.

Yes, that's why a Dirty Mind SDE ( for instance) would be more affordable than a Parade or D& P release. Personally, I think D&P is far better than Parade. When you pick a Parade'song separately, you can hear this is no more than average material. The B-sides of Parade's era are terrible, so I can't imagine what the unreleased material worth.


I can't imagine there being any more box sets the size of SOTT. I was lucky that a friend who got the LP gave me their download code. Otherwise, I would have just stuck to listening to it on Spotify (first Prince album I haven't bought a physical copy of - other than digital-only releases of course).

Although having just said that, I'm sure a SDE of Purple Rain is not that far away.

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Reply #102 posted 01/18/21 1:47pm

love2thenines2
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RODSERLING said:

KoolEaze said:



RODSERLING said:


Phase3 said:
sad Idk about everyone else here but I will take anything prince related I can get. They can postpone re issues or deluxe and just release the 3121 movie and I will be delighted [Edited 1/17/21 22:14pm]

I would take anything too. The thing is, with the bad economic conjuncture, plus the various shutdown s and curfews due to the Covid, if the estate see the bad vibes here concerning the D&P project, they may as well decide to go full streaming for this release. . If WB chose D&P over Parade this year, it s for obvious legal reasons. They can wait for Parade, but it s their last year to re release D&P, before it falls in another legal imbroglio. . Criticizing a project we don't know anything about ( number of CD's, tracklist, price, etc.) Is nothing more but trolling. Which is too common here. . I think the great advantage of D&P, is to have a chance of having a HD concert release, for once, instead of a VHS quality of a Parade tour.

That would be something I´m really looking forward to.....a professionally shot concert of a D&P show. Sure, there´s lots of other things I´d appreciate to be released but there are some great D&P shows that I´ve only heard as audience recording quality bootlegs or recorded with a shaky camera, and I think that the D&P show is very underrated these days.


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What´s with the legal reasons to release a D&P SDE earlier than Parade? I´m a layman in this regard and both albums were released when he was still under a contract with WB, so what´s the difference? You seem to know the details.



WB will soon be able to release only reissues of soundtracks ( Parade, PR, GB and Batman).
The others WB albums will be partly owned by Sony... But Sony won't be able to release the vault tracks recorded under WB... So there will be a new legal fuck-up that would last for years.




From what i know...agreement has been found between WBR & Sony....for the best of each entity!
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Reply #103 posted 01/18/21 4:43pm

KoolEaze

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RODSERLING said:


WB will soon be able to release only reissues of soundtracks ( Parade, PR, GB and Batman). The others WB albums will be partly owned by Sony... But Sony won't be able to release the vault tracks recorded under WB... So there will be a new legal fuck-up that would last for years.

Thanks for the info.

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Reply #104 posted 01/18/21 6:23pm

jfenster

Vannormal said:



jfenster said:


Black Sabbath r releasing deluxe versions of 3 albums next month...

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1. Well, their fans are older than Prince fans.


2. those deluxe boxes are not at all that deluxe


4. there isn't so much unreleased music to search for and to assemble


5. probably the original tapes and such are better maintained than Prince's


3. remastering their music seems easier to do than Prince's


6. their businesses and contractual shit is also less complicated than Prince's





Ok but they're willing to "flood" the market....u think it takes time to prepare prince releases??? Just release fully sequenced unreleased albums...

(you may slap me for my incompetent knowledge for that matter) wink


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Reply #105 posted 01/18/21 9:49pm

RODSERLING

love2thenines2003 said:

RODSERLING said:



WB will soon be able to release only reissues of soundtracks ( Parade, PR, GB and Batman).
The others WB albums will be partly owned by Sony... But Sony won't be able to release the vault tracks recorded under WB... So there will be a new legal fuck-up that would last for years.




From what i know...agreement has been found between WBR & Sony....for the best of each entity!


Thats why we re already 7 months without a new release or re release scheduled? .
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Reply #106 posted 01/18/21 9:56pm

DotsofU

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This is silly.

It has to be Parade.

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Reply #107 posted 01/18/21 10:25pm

Phase3

RODSERLING said:

love2thenines2003 said:





From what i know...agreement has been found between WBR & Sony....for the best of each entity!


Thats why we re already 7 months without a new release or re release scheduled? .

It hasn't even been 5 months since SOTT was released mate
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Reply #108 posted 01/18/21 10:38pm

lustmealways

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This is silly
It has to be Diamonds and Pearls

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Reply #109 posted 01/19/21 9:05am

RODSERLING

Phase3 said:

RODSERLING said:



Thats why we re already 7 months without a new release or re release scheduled? .

It hasn't even been 5 months since SOTT was released mate


5 months, and a new release has to be announced at least 2 months in advance.
And lately, new Prince release dates have been postponed after the initial releases ( SOTT SDE for instance).
So, 5+2 = 7 months. At least.
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Reply #110 posted 01/22/21 5:31am

Vannormal

lustmealways said:

This is silly
It has to be Diamonds and Pearls

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This is silly.

It has to remain a surprise.

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''Don't U Like Suprises?''

(who said that...)

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Reply #111 posted 01/22/21 6:04am

jaawwnn

RODSERLING said:

Phase3 said:
It hasn't even been 5 months since SOTT was released mate
5 months, and a new release has to be announced at least 2 months in advance. And lately, new Prince release dates have been postponed after the initial releases ( SOTT SDE for instance). So, 5+2 = 7 months. At least.

It hasn't even 4 been months, what are you whinging about? Prince releases are never announced in January. There will be an annoucement for a new release around April 21 with a release date of June 7th.

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Reply #112 posted 01/22/21 7:23am

Vannormal

jaawwnn said:

RODSERLING said:

Phase3 said: 5 months, and a new release has to be announced at least 2 months in advance. And lately, new Prince release dates have been postponed after the initial releases ( SOTT SDE for instance). So, 5+2 = 7 months. At least.

It hasn't even 4 been months, what are you whinging about? Prince releases are never announced in January. There will be an annoucement for a new release around April 21 with a release date of June 7th.

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I agree on the april 21 / june 7 idea.

But,

...If everyone in the US are capable of taming that roaring pandemic.

And it still not reached its peak yet. Numbers are still rising over there.

And don't yet count too much on the vaccine.

Most peope will need two or more vaccines, and that takes a lot of time to get at least 70% of the populations immunity level.

Production and distribution companies suffer from that right now, and jobs will get lost.

And as careful as The Estate is, they prefer not to shit their pants with a quick new release.

At least, that's my guess.

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"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves. And wiser people so full of doubts" (Bertrand Russell 1872-1972)
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Reply #113 posted 01/22/21 7:59am

jaawwnn

Vannormal said:

jaawwnn said:

It hasn't even 4 been months, what are you whinging about? Prince releases are never announced in January. There will be an annoucement for a new release around April 21 with a release date of June 7th.

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I agree on the april 21 / june 7 idea.

But,

...If everyone in the US are capable of taming that roaring pandemic.

And it still not reached its peak yet. Numbers are still rising over there.

And don't yet count too much on the vaccine.

Most peope will need two or more vaccines, and that takes a lot of time to get at least 70% of the populations immunity level.

Production and distribution companies suffer from that right now, and jobs will get lost.

And as careful as The Estate is, they prefer not to shit their pants with a quick new release.

At least, that's my guess.

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I will forgive a delay because of a worldwide pandemic. Dunno if RODSERLING will though.

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Reply #114 posted 01/22/21 8:35am

BartVanHemelen

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Vannormal said:

andrewm7 said:

Parade, but doing it right in my opinion will be hard. In order to really do it justice you would need to include the version without Clare Fischer`s orchestration, Clare`s original orchestrated version in full, all of the songs used in the movie and score tracks. You would also need to add a 4K reconstruction of the Cobo Hall 1986 film mastered from film as well as both the full gig and the memorial arena gig.Add to that period relevent tracks like Stella and Charles and you have a very big box

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Don't forget the movie finally in Colour !

That would be great. smile

But I have no idea if they still have the rights to use the movie again.

Like the SOTT was explained here as a mess concernight rights and all.

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Oh for crying out loud, why do you equate the legal mess of SOTT with the clear as fuck situation of PR, UTCM and GB? There was a goddamn Blu-ray box set of those three mere years ago! Also, why the fuck do you think Warners keeps the rights to the movie soundtracks? For shits & giggles?

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Did none of you pay any fucking attention to credits? Or read articles and books about this? The story of the SOTT movie has never been a secret.

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Reply #115 posted 01/22/21 9:00am

Vannormal

BartVanHemelen said:

Vannormal said:

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Don't forget the movie finally in Colour !

That would be great. smile

But I have no idea if they still have the rights to use the movie again.

Like the SOTT was explained here as a mess concernight rights and all.

.

Oh for crying out loud, why do you equate the legal mess of SOTT with the clear as fuck situation of PR, UTCM and GB? There was a goddamn Blu-ray box set of those three mere years ago! Also, why the fuck do you think Warners keeps the rights to the movie soundtracks? For shits & giggles?

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Did none of you pay any fucking attention to credits? Or read articles and books about this? The story of the SOTT movie has never been a secret.

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Hm, uhmmmmmm,

AND WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T YOU SAY SOMETHING ABOUT MY TYPO IN THE FIRST PLACE ?

YOU DID NOT PAY ANY FUCKING ATTENTION.

IT'S NOT 'CONCERNIGHT', IT'S CONCERNING FOR CRYING OUT LOUD.

READ MY MANUAL.

smile))

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Reply #116 posted 01/22/21 9:12am

RODSERLING

jaawwnn said:



RODSERLING said:


Phase3 said:
It hasn't even been 5 months since SOTT was released mate

5 months, and a new release has to be announced at least 2 months in advance. And lately, new Prince release dates have been postponed after the initial releases ( SOTT SDE for instance). So, 5+2 = 7 months. At least.

It hasn't even 4 been months, what are you whinging about? Prince releases are never announced in January. There will be an annoucement for a new release around April 21 with a release date of June 7th.



4 months you re right ! Already one third of a year.
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The first wave of Sony reissues were announced 10/12/2018 though.
The ONA reissues were announced less than 3 months after the 1999 reissue.
4 months of silence is a first since june 2018, when Piano and Mic was first announced.
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Reply #117 posted 01/22/21 9:18am

RODSERLING

jaawwnn said:



Vannormal said:




jaawwnn said:



It hasn't even 4 been months, what are you whinging about? Prince releases are never announced in January. There will be an annoucement for a new release around April 21 with a release date of June 7th.



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I agree on the april 21 / june 7 idea.


But,


...If everyone in the US are capable of taming that roaring pandemic.


And it still not reached its peak yet. Numbers are still rising over there.


And don't yet count too much on the vaccine.


Most peope will need two or more vaccines, and that takes a lot of time to get at least 70% of the populations immunity level.


Production and distribution companies suffer from that right now, and jobs will get lost.


And as careful as The Estate is, they prefer not to shit their pants with a quick new release.


At least, that's my guess.


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I will forgive a delay because of a worldwide pandemic. Dunno if RODSERLING will though.



I don't.
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Reply #118 posted 01/22/21 10:22am

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Love Symbol SDE

All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #119 posted 01/22/21 10:38am

yukoncornelius

Without a doubt-----Parade. Far superior album IMHO

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