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Reply #750 posted 06/26/20 5:19pm

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I can’t see if there will be a download code like 1999. Anybody know?
"You know, this is funky but I wish he'd play like he used to, old scragglyhead son of a...*smack* OOH!"

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Reply #751 posted 06/26/20 5:22pm

glamlife2

AZStreet said:

I can’t see if there will be a download code like 1999. Anybody know?

The vinyl set comes with a download code for sure.

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Reply #752 posted 06/26/20 5:23pm

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LoveGalore said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Prince(r.i.p.) knew that his muziq would be heard when he was long gone. That's what he wanted. I met a dancer that worked for him. She said he wanted an album released a year for 21 years after he was gone.

Well according to you on LSA, you know pretty much everyone who was ever even tangentially connected to Prince. I bet you have more insider info than Neversin!

That person is SO mean,nasty & disrespectful to me. But believe it or not I've experienced FAR worse here. Even Andre's wife said she doesn't know how I take it & had to LOG OFF!

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #753 posted 06/26/20 5:53pm

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I wish I understood why the defacto bonus disc for the lower priced editions since 1999 is now the B-sides and edits when it was the vault material for the Purple Rain 2-disc. My money was a little tied up when the 1999 box set dropped, and as soon as I was able to afford it I wasn't able to find it anywhere so I had to make due with the 2 disc CD.

This isn't at all a complaint about the price for the SOTT set, I actually think it is very reasonable given what all is included, but I just know that I am not going to be able to afford it right now and I just wish there was a more condensed release that inlcuded at least 1 disc of vault material, like a cream of the crop selection or something. I buy a LOT of music so I know there are a lot of other deluxe music releases that do this like the Fleetwood Mac expanded reissues.

[Edited 6/26/20 17:56pm]

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Reply #754 posted 06/26/20 6:02pm

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Maaaaaan, I've got my first kid on the way in November and am saving up money for that, but that DeepDiscount deal is just too sweet to pass up, I think. I need this set. It's straight fire.

now i know what this is all about. now i know exactly what i am.
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Reply #755 posted 06/26/20 6:58pm

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222 said:

FragileUndertow said:

222 said: Can I ask where? Do you have a link?

Use promo code 'MEGALODON' for 15% off before 7/1.

FYI - you might not be guaranteed to receive it on the release date, however the music will be available on streaming platforms on that date anyways [Snip no no no! - luv4u]

https://www.deepdiscount....3497847563

https://www.deepdiscount....3497847099

[Edited 6/26/20 13:39pm]

rolleyes

That site once they add the taxes and shipping it's just about as much as it is on Amazon.

"That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when eye was doing the Purple Rain tour eye had a lot of people who eye knew eye'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream."prince
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Reply #756 posted 06/26/20 7:07pm

databank

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glamlife2 said:

databank said:

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2/ "So the only bona fide rarity or vault track from Camille album is ‘Rebirth of the Flesh’, with the original outro, which I don’t believe has even circulated amongst bootleg collectors, but with the things that have been released and that track, you can listen to Camille from front to back, as it was envisioned" -> As far as I know from reliable sources, the test pressing based cassette of Camille that's doing the rounds among traders has the same version of ROTF as the circulating Crystal Ball configuration and every other bootleg. Now it's possible that 1/ There was a slightly different config of Camille or 2/ I was lied to. Again, just paying attention to details.

I remember the earliest bootleg of Rebirth of The Flesh I heard back in 1988 had an awkward sudden hard end after "Come To The Crystal Ball" (like someone screwed up the tape). (Back then it had been mis-titled "Souly-A-Colia"!) Then it was quite a few years later that I finally heard the version sequenced for the Crystal Ball LP that segued into Play In The Sunshine (with the machine gun noises). The one from the Camille test pressing has a smoother fade after "Come To The Crystal Ball". But I can believe that there should be a standalone master that has continues after that ending - otherwise I don't know why they'd use the word "Outro". I guess we will have to wait and see. (I get a bit obsessive over this song I've loved for 30+ years and wanted in perfect quality!)

[Edited 6/26/20 17:17pm]

OK let's just say that I've heard both the circulating CB tape and what I was told is an uncirculating Camille tape and that both end up the same. Now admitedly I could have been lied about he Camille tape being genuine, I can't tell 100%, and even if I was not lied to, Prince could have come up with 2 different edits of the record on 2 different days, so I'm gonna leave the estate the benefit of doubt until Duane clears this out next year nod

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Reply #757 posted 06/26/20 7:29pm

glamlife2

databank said:

glamlife2 said:

I remember the earliest bootleg of Rebirth of The Flesh I heard back in 1988 had an awkward sudden hard end after "Come To The Crystal Ball" (like someone screwed up the tape). (Back then it had been mis-titled "Souly-A-Colia"!) Then it was quite a few years later that I finally heard the version sequenced for the Crystal Ball LP that segued into Play In The Sunshine (with the machine gun noises). The one from the Camille test pressing has a smoother fade after "Come To The Crystal Ball". But I can believe that there should be a standalone master that has continues after that ending - otherwise I don't know why they'd use the word "Outro". I guess we will have to wait and see. (I get a bit obsessive over this song I've loved for 30+ years and wanted in perfect quality!)

[Edited 6/26/20 17:17pm]

OK let's just say that I've heard both the circulating CB tape and what I was told is an uncirculating Camille tape and that both end up the same. Now admitedly I could have been lied about he Camille tape being genuine, I can't tell 100%, and even if I was not lied to, Prince could have come up with 2 different edits of the record on 2 different days, so I'm gonna leave the estate the benefit of doubt until Duane clears this out next year nod

I guess I just wouldn't describe those 2 as exactly the same because one segues very abruptly into Play In The Sunshine (with those gun sounds) and the other goes almost straight into Housequake. The latter one is sligthly easier to edit out as a standalone track. But on that early bootleg there was a weird sound after the spoken bit that's hard to describe (like a horn stab or something) and only lasts for a fraction of a second. If I could find a rip of that vinyl I could upload it. (It could've been a mess up by the bootlegger though.) The bootleg was called Camille's Crystal Ball and it's on Discogs.

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Reply #758 posted 06/27/20 1:21am

DenDen

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DenDen said:

What a shame that pricing isn't consistent with 1999 SDE. Yes, I know there is more material but not enough to justify a £100 difference in value.

1999 SDE was available for £60- £70 depending where you looked so I expected this to be between £80 - £90. But £143? Fuck that.

The CD set on Amazon UK is now showing as £199 WTF! https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08BMSF4XT

Saw that.

Looks like the winner is iTunes.

I hate not having the packaging and the dvd but I think I'll get over that quicker than I will than shelling out an additonal £150 for the privilege. I'll put that money towards buying Duane Tudhal's book.

They have got to be fu**king joking.

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Reply #759 posted 06/27/20 3:29am

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DenDen said:



camilleisastar said:


dodger said:
Yes. You can purchase Witness 4 The Prosecution on UK iTunes now

Thx- just purchased on iTunes and cancelled the CD Box as saves me almost £100 and only missing the DVD which I’ll have with the vinyl box set


I am likely to do the same. I have waited ages for this release but cannot justify an extra £100 for a dvd and a book.



What a shame that pricing isn't consistent with 1999 SDE. Yes, I know there is more material but not enough to justify a £100 difference in value.



1999 SDE was available for £60- £70 depending where you looked so I expected this to be between £80 - £90. But £143? Fuck that.


It's times like this I'm glad that I only buy digital releases. I just pre-ordered SOTT Super Deluxe on Google play for 395SEK ($42/€37)
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Reply #760 posted 06/27/20 5:02am

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sulls said:

Holy MOLEY!!!


Exactly....i was thinking, Holy Christ on a Tortilla !

My birthday is in September. i guess i better start saving now.

Rest in Peace Bettie Boo. See u soon.
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Reply #761 posted 06/27/20 5:34am

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PurpleMouse88 said:

I wish I understood why the defacto bonus disc for the lower priced editions since 1999 is now the B-sides and edits when it was the vault material for the Purple Rain 2-disc. My money was a little tied up when the 1999 box set dropped, and as soon as I was able to afford it I wasn't able to find it anywhere so I had to make due with the 2 disc CD.

This isn't at all a complaint about the price for the SOTT set, I actually think it is very reasonable given what all is included, but I just know that I am not going to be able to afford it right now and I just wish there was a more condensed release that inlcuded at least 1 disc of vault material, like a cream of the crop selection or something. I buy a LOT of music so I know there are a lot of other deluxe music releases that do this like the Fleetwood Mac expanded reissues.

[Edited 6/26/20 17:56pm]

Yeah, this whole thing since the 1999 SDE of relegating the vault material to the later discs in the set so that they can charge people through the nose if they want to obtain a physical copy of it, is just beyond cynical to me.

I'll possibly get the peach vinyl version of this, but that'll be it, and will otherwise save my cash for the Legacy reissues of other albums. I don't have the income of an oil baron...

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Reply #762 posted 06/27/20 5:44am

Doalwa

Snatched up my copy of the Vinyl box set on Amazon as soon as I saw the news...399€ is a steep price, but it’s not like I can blow my money on hookers and blow right now, anyway...thanks Corona!

I kid, I kid...or am I?!?
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Reply #763 posted 06/27/20 7:41am

Romeoblu

When The Dawn of The Morning Comes sounds interesting.

It was described as a fast paced gospel Rave up. From memory the vault had it described as a stately piano Ballad.
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Reply #764 posted 06/27/20 8:25am

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glamlife2 said:

databank said:

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2/ "So the only bona fide rarity or vault track from Camille album is ‘Rebirth of the Flesh’, with the original outro, which I don’t believe has even circulated amongst bootleg collectors, but with the things that have been released and that track, you can listen to Camille from front to back, as it was envisioned" -> As far as I know from reliable sources, the test pressing based cassette of Camille that's doing the rounds among traders has the same version of ROTF as the circulating Crystal Ball configuration and every other bootleg. Now it's possible that 1/ There was a slightly different config of Camille or 2/ I was lied to. Again, just paying attention to details.

I remember the earliest bootleg of Rebirth of The Flesh I heard back in 1988 had an awkward sudden hard end after "Come To The Crystal Ball" (like someone screwed up the tape). (Back then it had been mis-titled "Souly-A-Colia"!) Then it was quite a few years later that I finally heard the version sequenced for the Crystal Ball LP that segued into Play In The Sunshine (with the machine gun noises). The one from the Camille test pressing has a smoother fade after "Come To The Crystal Ball". But I can believe that there should be a standalone master that has continues after that ending - otherwise I don't know why they'd use the word "Outro". I guess we will have to wait and see. (I get a bit obsessive over this song I've loved for 30+ years and wanted in perfect quality!)

[Edited 6/26/20 17:17pm]

So a little update. A reliable source now tells me that:

1/ The Camille config circulating among traders is a phoney.

2/ The CB leak from a few years back is legit (also confirmed by Princevault).

Meaning there are 2 versions of ROTF and we always had the CB version, while the one we're about to get is the Camille version. Cool biggrin

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Reply #765 posted 06/27/20 10:53am

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databank said:

glamlife2 said:

I remember the earliest bootleg of Rebirth of The Flesh I heard back in 1988 had an awkward sudden hard end after "Come To The Crystal Ball" (like someone screwed up the tape). (Back then it had been mis-titled "Souly-A-Colia"!) Then it was quite a few years later that I finally heard the version sequenced for the Crystal Ball LP that segued into Play In The Sunshine (with the machine gun noises). The one from the Camille test pressing has a smoother fade after "Come To The Crystal Ball". But I can believe that there should be a standalone master that has continues after that ending - otherwise I don't know why they'd use the word "Outro". I guess we will have to wait and see. (I get a bit obsessive over this song I've loved for 30+ years and wanted in perfect quality!)

[Edited 6/26/20 17:17pm]

So a little update. A reliable source now tells me that:

1/ The Camille config circulating among traders is a phoney.

2/ The CB leak from a few years back is legit (also confirmed by Princevault).

Meaning there are 2 versions of ROTF and we always had the CB version, while the one we're about to get is the Camille version. Cool biggrin

so does that mean that the person that bought the Camille test pressing did not share it?

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Reply #766 posted 06/27/20 11:13am

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databank said:

glamlife2 said:

I remember the earliest bootleg of Rebirth of The Flesh I heard back in 1988 had an awkward sudden hard end after "Come To The Crystal Ball" (like someone screwed up the tape). (Back then it had been mis-titled "Souly-A-Colia"!) Then it was quite a few years later that I finally heard the version sequenced for the Crystal Ball LP that segued into Play In The Sunshine (with the machine gun noises). The one from the Camille test pressing has a smoother fade after "Come To The Crystal Ball". But I can believe that there should be a standalone master that has continues after that ending - otherwise I don't know why they'd use the word "Outro". I guess we will have to wait and see. (I get a bit obsessive over this song I've loved for 30+ years and wanted in perfect quality!)

[Edited 6/26/20 17:17pm]

So a little update. A reliable source now tells me that:

1/ The Camille config circulating among traders is a phoney.

2/ The CB leak from a few years back is legit (also confirmed by Princevault).

Meaning there are 2 versions of ROTF and we always had the CB version, while the one we're about to get is the Camille version. Cool biggrin


Hi Databank. I did post about the fake around 6 months back but the thread got buried.

It’s the bootleg referred to as ‘Camille [Test Pressing]’. If you open up ‘Rockhard In A Funk Place’ in any studio software that allows you to view it as a wave you’ll notice a tiny bit of inaudible sound right at the start of the track. It isn’t present at the end of ‘If I Was Your Girlfriend’. That’s because it’s actually from the end of ‘2 Nigs United For West Compton’ on the Black Album.

Also every track on that Camille boot has a brief pause at the beginning of each track (a quarter to half a second), except for ‘If I Was Your Girlfriend’ which begins immediately. That’s because whoever made it cut the wedding intro from the ‘Sign O’ The Times’ version and put it straight in the sequence as is.

I smelt a rat the first time I heard ‘Rebirth’ at in ended with the common ‘Welcome To The Crystal Ball’ finish… but it wasn’t meant to be from Crystal Ball. I suspected that Rebirth and Housequake would have been segued differently but could never confirm it. Ultimately it doesn’t matter now. We’re just three months away from having the complete Camille album. I can’t wait.

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Reply #767 posted 06/27/20 11:19am

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

so does that mean that the person that bought the Camille test pressing did not share it?


I've heard tell that it was shared amongst a few collectors but it’s not widely circulating. Apparently the raw transfer had quite a few pops and clicks on it.

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Reply #768 posted 06/27/20 11:30am

glamlife2

VaultCurator said:

databank said:

So a little update. A reliable source now tells me that:

1/ The Camille config circulating among traders is a phoney.

2/ The CB leak from a few years back is legit (also confirmed by Princevault).

Meaning there are 2 versions of ROTF and we always had the CB version, while the one we're about to get is the Camille version. Cool biggrin


Hi Databank. I did post about the fake around 6 months back but the thread got buried.

It’s the bootleg referred to as ‘Camille [Test Pressing]’. If you open up ‘Rockhard In A Funk Place’ in any studio software that allows you to view it as a wave you’ll notice a tiny bit of inaudible sound right at the start of the track. It isn’t present at the end of ‘If I Was Your Girlfriend’. That’s because it’s actually from the end of ‘2 Nigs United For West Compton’ on the Black Album.

Also every track on that Camille boot has a brief pause at the beginning of each track (a quarter to half a second), except for ‘If I Was Your Girlfriend’ which begins immediately. That’s because whoever made it cut the wedding intro from the ‘Sign O’ The Times’ version and put it straight in the sequence as is.

I smelt a rat the first time I heard ‘Rebirth’ at in ended with the common ‘Welcome To The Crystal Ball’ finish… but it wasn’t meant to be from Crystal Ball. I suspected that Rebirth and Housequake would have been segued differently but could never confirm it. Ultimately it doesn’t matter now. We’re just three months away from having the complete Camille album. I can’t wait.

I am SO excited for it. My guess is that this "with Outro" version will either 1) have no "Come To the Crystal Ball" ending - will end differently or 2) will continue past "Come To The Crystal Ball" and solve the mystery of the earliest bootleg version that has the horn stab I described. (I'm sure I also have this on a boot CD I'm going to dig it out and listen closer - since having a higher quality version I haven't listened to it in about 15 years!) "With Outro" must mean something! wink

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Reply #769 posted 06/27/20 11:32am

glamlife2

VaultCurator said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

so does that mean that the person that bought the Camille test pressing did not share it?


I've heard tell that it was shared amongst a few collectors but it’s not widely circulating. Apparently the raw transfer had quite a few pops and clicks on it.

Didn't Karen Krattinger's test pressing go for about $37,000? I wondered who bought it - must've been a celebrity!

This is why we need the Camille LP for a Record Store Day release... I'd love to be able to listen to the real thing in sequence on vinyl. smile

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Reply #770 posted 06/27/20 12:01pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

databank said:

So a little update. A reliable source now tells me that:

1/ The Camille config circulating among traders is a phoney.

2/ The CB leak from a few years back is legit (also confirmed by Princevault).

Meaning there are 2 versions of ROTF and we always had the CB version, while the one we're about to get is the Camille version. Cool biggrin

so does that mean that the person that bought the Camille test pressing did not share it?

The one I heard was doing the rounds long before this, it was supposed to come from a cassette. But no I don't believe the person who has the test pressing shared a needledrop.

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Reply #771 posted 06/27/20 12:03pm

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VaultCurator said:

databank said:

So a little update. A reliable source now tells me that:

1/ The Camille config circulating among traders is a phoney.

2/ The CB leak from a few years back is legit (also confirmed by Princevault).

Meaning there are 2 versions of ROTF and we always had the CB version, while the one we're about to get is the Camille version. Cool biggrin


Hi Databank. I did post about the fake around 6 months back but the thread got buried.

It’s the bootleg referred to as ‘Camille [Test Pressing]’. If you open up ‘Rockhard In A Funk Place’ in any studio software that allows you to view it as a wave you’ll notice a tiny bit of inaudible sound right at the start of the track. It isn’t present at the end of ‘If I Was Your Girlfriend’. That’s because it’s actually from the end of ‘2 Nigs United For West Compton’ on the Black Album.

Also every track on that Camille boot has a brief pause at the beginning of each track (a quarter to half a second), except for ‘If I Was Your Girlfriend’ which begins immediately. That’s because whoever made it cut the wedding intro from the ‘Sign O’ The Times’ version and put it straight in the sequence as is.

I smelt a rat the first time I heard ‘Rebirth’ at in ended with the common ‘Welcome To The Crystal Ball’ finish… but it wasn’t meant to be from Crystal Ball. I suspected that Rebirth and Housequake would have been segued differently but could never confirm it. Ultimately it doesn’t matter now. We’re just three months away from having the complete Camille album. I can’t wait.

Ah damn I'd missed that thread at the time. Thx for explaining smile

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Reply #772 posted 06/27/20 12:03pm

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VaultCurator said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

so does that mean that the person that bought the Camille test pressing did not share it?


I've heard tell that it was shared amongst a few collectors but it’s not widely circulating. Apparently the raw transfer had quite a few pops and clicks on it.

Ha! I didn't know that.

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Reply #773 posted 06/27/20 12:18pm

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databank said:

VaultCurator said:


I've heard tell that it was shared amongst a few collectors but it’s not widely circulating. Apparently the raw transfer had quite a few pops and clicks on it.

Ha! I didn't know that.


It was PurpleMusic7689 that told me about it. For clarification, here's the thread where we discuss it: https://prince.org/msg/7/460507 wink

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Reply #774 posted 06/27/20 12:42pm

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RODSERLING said:

95 €/$ would have been a fair price compared to the other deluxe editions.


Well by the time it comes out, the price will probably be right around there so no complaints, right? biggrin

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Reply #775 posted 06/27/20 12:45pm

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most of us still remember a time in the 90s when we'd pay $ 50,- for a single cd with a few new
outtakes on it. mostly in shitty quality. but it was so worth it.

so i'm not about to complain that i'm getting so many outtakes in great quality now for what is
actually a steal if you compare it to what we used to pay for shit.

also, i've been yearning for this album to be remastered since forever and i'm willing to pay the
price for it.

booklet seems to have had a lot of time put into it, if it's 120 pages. all these things cost money
to produce. also, the mastering of all those vault tracks must have taken quite a few man hours.

than again what do i know. i thought it would be near to impossible to start complaining right
away about this box and yet here people are lol even the first single is a disappointment to
people because it's not the exact version they were hoping for, it has to much reverb on the
fingersnaps or the bass is too heavy at 01:43-01:45 and that sounds like a deliberate ploy by
the engineers to get away with making a hybrid mix and fooling all of us and laughing at us nuts

this is why we can't have nice things neutral


Well said. wink

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Reply #776 posted 06/27/20 12:47pm

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I'd say packaging makes a difference.


PR Deluxe - kinda sub-par, yeah a silver foil, but a small booklet full of mainly 20 different versions of the same spiral staircase photo.

1999 Super Deluxe - a big step up, nice little box and far better booklets with handwritten lyrics and more song details.

SOTT Super Deluxe - Another step up, more discs, and a hardcover 120 page book.

I'll pay $150 once a year for a set like SOTT SD until all his albums are super-deluxed, thankyouverymuch.

Otherwise, sure - stick to streaming if all one is interested in is the music. I'm all-in for the physical releases and other extras, especially for SOTT which has some of the most beautiful photography and design in Prince's catalog.

[Edited 6/25/20 9:57am]


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Reply #777 posted 06/27/20 1:25pm

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glamlife2 said:

VaultCurator said:


Hi Databank. I did post about the fake around 6 months back but the thread got buried.

It’s the bootleg referred to as ‘Camille [Test Pressing]’. If you open up ‘Rockhard In A Funk Place’ in any studio software that allows you to view it as a wave you’ll notice a tiny bit of inaudible sound right at the start of the track. It isn’t present at the end of ‘If I Was Your Girlfriend’. That’s because it’s actually from the end of ‘2 Nigs United For West Compton’ on the Black Album.

Also every track on that Camille boot has a brief pause at the beginning of each track (a quarter to half a second), except for ‘If I Was Your Girlfriend’ which begins immediately. That’s because whoever made it cut the wedding intro from the ‘Sign O’ The Times’ version and put it straight in the sequence as is.

I smelt a rat the first time I heard ‘Rebirth’ at in ended with the common ‘Welcome To The Crystal Ball’ finish… but it wasn’t meant to be from Crystal Ball. I suspected that Rebirth and Housequake would have been segued differently but could never confirm it. Ultimately it doesn’t matter now. We’re just three months away from having the complete Camille album. I can’t wait.

I am SO excited for it. My guess is that this "with Outro" version will either 1) have no "Come To the Crystal Ball" ending - will end differently or 2) will continue past "Come To The Crystal Ball" and solve the mystery of the earliest bootleg version that has the horn stab I described. (I'm sure I also have this on a boot CD I'm going to dig it out and listen closer - since having a higher quality version I haven't listened to it in about 15 years!) "With Outro" must mean something! wink

Okay so I found the early boot version with the ending I'm talking about. It's literally about 1.5 seconds... but the sound doesn't match any other Prince song or segue that I've ever heard since. It's a complete mystery to me. Wonder who here has known this version?


https://www.dropbox.com/s/u657r3dcq3futbf/Rebirth%20Of%20The%20Flesh%20%28Souly-A-Colia%20Bootleg%20Ending%201988%29.aif?dl=0

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Reply #778 posted 06/27/20 1:47pm

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databank said:

That, and yeah of course at the time it was promoted as a collection of "previously unreleased" material from the vault, but still it was an album, it was sequenced in a certain, very intentional way (not just chronologically), some tracks were purposedly edited, a general tone was given to the record as a whole (clearly it was some sort of party record).

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After 22 years I just cannot at all see it as a random assemblage of tracks, I've loved it so much for so long, it just flows so naturally in my mind that it's a whole, and these mid-80's and TGE-era tracks totally belong there for me by now.

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But admitedly how I feel about it doesn't matter, in the end Prince released it (and it was WIDELY available albeit for a short time, I bought it first on release in a big record store chain in France: they had it, everyone who lived in a big city could have it, then a second time on the tour so I could have Kamasutra on CD), he took responsibility for it, he featured it as the 1998 album in his online discographies in the old NPGMC days, and the estate respects this and treat it as an album as well and I mean, what are they supposed to do: disassemble it and claim it never existed and redirect its content to reissues? That'd be barbaric!! Now release the alt. mixes yeah, anytime, please!! But there'll be room for these later on, the diggin' of the vault is only at its beginning.

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I truly wonder if CBII was compiled before being shelved. What a treat this would be!!


Agreed. And if they did that with CB, then they might as well do it with Chaos and TV:OF4S as well.


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lustmealways said:


https://www.superdeluxeed...onus-cuts/



howe interview up


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Thanks. Very interesting. The extended version of "The Ballad of Dorothy Parker" and the original version of "Wally": they looked for those but couldn't find them. Howe thinks the extended version of DP doesn't exist. About "Wally": "We searched every corner to determine if there was even a rough mix of that, or a cassette version, and we could not find it."

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Wow. eek
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