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Reply #300 posted 06/24/20 6:02pm

djThunderfunk

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databank said:

AvocadosMax said:

darkroman said: No, whats funny is people willing to have Michael Howe over Questlove or anyone else Howe has done an exceptional job.

With all due respect, Mr. Howe did everything but an admirable job. There have literally been problems with every posthumous release:

- Fake posthumous edit of Let's Work on 4ever (not sure if M. Howe was involved).

- Sound glitches on Erotic City and Computer Blue on PR Deluxe + material missing from the b-sides/mixes CD + mistitling of Possessed + the Our Destiny/Roadhouse Garden crossfade appears to be a posthumous fake mix made from 2 different cassettes (and not even faithful to the original crossfade according to traders who have it).

- Fake posthumous mix of NC2U on the single, then again on Originals.

- Pitch problem and other sound issues with the P&AM83 release, that according to the engineers here could have been corrected at least to a certain extent.

- At least half of Originals is made of fake posthumous mixes (and Niko Bolas' Peach and Black interview sheds some light on the totally erratic method that was used to determine which version of each track would be "recreated").

- Hiring Niko Bolas in the first place, who is undoubtebly a great professional, but one who (by his own admission) knew nothing about Prince's music beforehand. Even if the engineers who worked on early to mid 80's material are retired, I'm sure many of the engineers Prince used later in his career are still available to do the job.

- The Versace Experience apparently sourced from cassette (if the master was lost then they should have said it).

- Material missing from the 1999 Deluxe b-sides/mixes CD + little to no effort to improve the sound quality of the video concert + I'm still unsure whether ALL the mixes were as faithful to Prince's cassette mixes as they could have been (but, admitedly, they seem to be way more faithful than the ones on Originals).

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Now I'm not saying Mr. Howe's job is easy: accidents can happen, posthumous mixes will never be exactly like the cassettes mixes, etc., but certain things in the list above were deliberate choices, either because Mr. Howe took artistic licence, or possibly, in some cases, to minimize expanses.

In the end the good news is that all of the above can be rereleased with the problems fixed, one day in the future, but I don't trust this man to do the best possible job, and probably never will after this sad series of fiascos.


Well said. wink

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Reply #301 posted 06/24/20 6:06pm

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Daaaaam, it's gluttonous! This is gonna be EPIC! Can't wait to get my hands on Promise to be true! Losing my mind over here!!

excited err err excited
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Reply #302 posted 06/24/20 6:06pm

djThunderfunk

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mediumdry said:

IstenSzek said:

silly joke, that's all, is my guess smile

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Sarcasm should be made clearer, it's true. I was trying to combine the adulation of the snippet, the outcry of the missing 1999 tracks and the 2 surprises that are coming up in a humorous way. I guess I failed. smile

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Apologies for any distress.


lol I thought it was a good one. lol

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Reply #303 posted 06/24/20 6:08pm

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PacManPlus said:

SchlomoThaHomo said:

PacManPlus said: I was able to make a pre-order using this link just right now. In case the price goes up tomorrow, maybe they’ll honor the original SRP. https://webcache.googleus...&gl=nl

Thank you, that worked.

Can't wait for the Peach colored vinyl! (I LOVE colored vinyl)


This link was for the CDs. How were you able to preorder the vinyl? I want both.

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Reply #304 posted 06/24/20 6:18pm

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This set looks to be EPIC! A worthy follow-up to 1999 SDE. Can't wait!!! headbang

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Reply #305 posted 06/24/20 6:25pm

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SchlomoThaHomo said:

PacManPlus said:

Thank you, that worked.

Can't wait for the Peach colored vinyl! (I LOVE colored vinyl)


This link was for the CDs. How were you able to preorder the vinyl? I want both.

I didn't pre-order the vinyl - I was just stating that I can't wait for the colored vinyl as well. smile (I'm getting both too)

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Reply #306 posted 06/24/20 6:34pm

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I don't get why they include a live studio version of Power Fantastic instead of the studio version.

My understanding is that the song was recorded live in one take at Prince's home studio (including the long intro), so maybe that's why they labeled the track as such.

Ok, great then

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Reply #307 posted 06/24/20 6:41pm

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Uk links:

Vinyl Super Deluxe edition:

https://amzn.to/31dLXOB

Cd Super Deluxe edition:
https://amzn.to/3i6rW2H

3cd Deluxe edition:

https://amzn.to/31aY9zH

2cd Standard edition:

https://amzn.to/3hY1gRq

4LP Deluxe edition:

https://amzn.to/3fTFJYk


2LP Standard Edition
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Reply #308 posted 06/24/20 6:44pm

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i once again am dumbfounded by the fact that the 3 CD offering is the remaster+the edits disc as opposed to the remaster + a vault disc, or even a "best of" vault disc.

who in the hell is buying that.

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Reply #309 posted 06/24/20 6:53pm

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lottusflower said:

Uk links: Vinyl Super Deluxe edition: https://amzn.to/31dLXOB Cd Super Deluxe edition: https://amzn.to/3i6rW2H 3cd Deluxe edition: https://amzn.to/31aY9zH 2cd Standard edition: https://amzn.to/3hY1gRq 4LP Deluxe edition: https://amzn.to/3fTFJYk 2LP Standard Edition TBA

it is june 25th in the UK maybe they will start to go 'live' sometime on the 25th?

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Reply #310 posted 06/24/20 6:56pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



lottusflower said:


Uk links: Vinyl Super Deluxe edition: https://amzn.to/31dLXOB Cd Super Deluxe edition: https://amzn.to/3i6rW2H 3cd Deluxe edition: https://amzn.to/31aY9zH 2cd Standard edition: https://amzn.to/3hY1gRq 4LP Deluxe edition: https://amzn.to/3fTFJYk 2LP Standard Edition TBA



it is june 25th in the UK maybe they will start to go 'live' sometime on the 25th?




Will b updated for preorders today 25th biggrin
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Reply #311 posted 06/24/20 7:18pm

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LoveGalore said:

databank said:



LoveGalore said:


jaawwnn said:
It strikes me that Nevaeh Ni Ecalp A into A Large Room with No Light is going to be strange sequencing.

There is more to that song than the general populace knows. It's way longer (by about 100%) than the existing version. I don't think we'll see a transition here like the fanmade transition into DF.

AFAIK the genuine circulating tape of DF has a Nevaeh Ni Ecalp A into A Large Room that's similar to the fan reconstruction. I'm curious: where did you get your info?



It's just from the Questlove screenshots which clocks it at over 2 minutes. The fanmade transition version is just 1 minute (bringing the Frankenstein to 4 minutes).

Interesting. Thx for explaining 😊
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Reply #312 posted 06/24/20 7:23pm

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I realize I've always been a little confused by the Paisley Park show's setlist being a regular tour setlist instead of a more experimental aftershow approach. I wonder why. Was it P's way of saying goodbye to the material, playing it one last time for good old time's sake? Was it his way to allow local crowds to see the tour? I guess we can only theorize but if anyone knows anything, please share.
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Reply #313 posted 06/24/20 8:43pm

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databank said:

I realize I've always been a little confused by the Paisley Park show's setlist being a regular tour setlist instead of a more experimental aftershow approach. I wonder why. Was it P's way of saying goodbye to the material, playing it one last time for good old time's sake? Was it his way to allow local crowds to see the tour? I guess we can only theorize but if anyone knows anything, please share.

You haven't seen or heard the bootleg of the New Years Benefit Show? It's that last track that is LEGENDARY.

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Reply #314 posted 06/24/20 8:56pm

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OnlyNDaUsa said:

lottusflower said:

Uk links: Vinyl Super Deluxe edition: https://amzn.to/31dLXOB Cd Super Deluxe edition: https://amzn.to/3i6rW2H 3cd Deluxe edition: https://amzn.to/31aY9zH 2cd Standard edition: https://amzn.to/3hY1gRq 4LP Deluxe edition: https://amzn.to/3fTFJYk 2LP Standard Edition TBA

it is june 25th in the UK maybe they will start to go 'live' sometime on the 25th?


Nothing in Australia yet.

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Reply #315 posted 06/24/20 8:59pm

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databank said:

I realize I've always been a little confused by the Paisley Park show's setlist being a regular tour setlist instead of a more experimental aftershow approach. I wonder why. Was it P's way of saying goodbye to the material, playing it one last time for good old time's sake? Was it his way to allow local crowds to see the tour? I guess we can only theorize but if anyone knows anything, please share.

He didn't go on tour with that show in the USA, so it was something special for the audience I guess.
And I also consider it a "ready for the next move"-setlist in a way.
From "Erotic City" to "Jack U Off" feels to me like a glimpse into the making of the Lovesexy-Tour-setlist.
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Reply #316 posted 06/24/20 9:05pm

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[color=blue]excellent track listing! Great to finally see this come to fruition smile and quite a few nic surprises for old hardcores like me. Has anyone found a pre-order that ships downunder yet?[\color]

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Reply #317 posted 06/24/20 9:09pm

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andrewm7 said:

[color=blue]excellent track listing! Great to finally see this come to fruition smile and quite a few nic surprises for old hardcores like me. Has anyone found a pre-order that ships downunder yet?[\color]

[Edited 6/24/20 21:07pm]


US Amazon ships to aus. That's how I got 1999 sde vinyl.
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Reply #318 posted 06/24/20 9:16pm

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lustmealways said:

i once again am dumbfounded by the fact that the 3 CD offering is the remaster+the edits disc as opposed to the remaster + a vault disc, or even a "best of" vault disc.

who in the hell is buying that.

No one.

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Reply #319 posted 06/24/20 9:23pm

bonnie184

On the New Years Eve DVD, have they omitted the encore of Beautiful Night w/Miles?

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Reply #320 posted 06/24/20 10:21pm

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No Extra Loveable? This is bullshit. err


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Reply #321 posted 06/24/20 10:27pm

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Pre order links are now live on Amazon.co.uk
£286 for the Super deluxe vinyl and £144 for the Cd
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Reply #322 posted 06/24/20 10:28pm

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ForceofNature said:



fortuneandserendipity said:




ThirdStrike said:



Exactly!! Listen, for YEARS I've heard the same damn snippet of "Cosmic Day". In 90 days, I'll get to hear not only the rest of that damn song, but I'll get to hear it in crystal clear sound quality. Not to mention "Adonis & Bathsheba", which is one of my all-time favorite tracks. Then "Rebirth of the Flesh", "Cocoa Boys", etc. Fuck the pizza!!! This could be a damn SALAD and I'd still ove the shit out of it...




There might be great songs over the discs. But it's going to come off as an uneven compilation, just like Purple Rain and 1999 deluxe compilations before it. Songs that don't flow into next track, great songs preceding/following mediocre songs, songs that sound-wise don't belong on the same 'compilation'. There was a unique vibe to every P album but all songs managed to go together, near enough

What's wrong with posthumous P albums per se, as opposed to deluxe editions? They won't grab you with any familiarity like 'oh yeah that'.



I actually like is best this way, although I am not a person who is into the whole "configurations" thing like many Prince fans sometimes can be

For me I see it as not neccesarily intended for any flow, but rather a fairly comprehensive chronological compilation of vault tracks from that era that haven't made it out on other releases. It is nice to have there - to me that chronology tells the story rather than an album flow


Same here!
And I'm glad they didn't put stuff like "Starfish & Coffee without Alarm clock" on it.
I would have been really disappointed.
So far this set looks great to me!
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Reply #323 posted 06/24/20 11:29pm

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simon1969 said:

Pre order links are now live on Amazon.co.uk
£286 for the Super deluxe vinyl and £144 for the Cd

Just preordered both biggrin
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Reply #324 posted 06/24/20 11:41pm

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Lucky bugger! [joke]

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Reply #325 posted 06/24/20 11:50pm

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camilleisastar said:

simon1969 said:

Pre order links are now live on Amazon.co.uk
£286 for the Super deluxe vinyl and £144 for the Cd

Just preordered both biggrin


Nothing on Amazon Australia
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Reply #326 posted 06/24/20 11:50pm

Chappers72

Do you know what ..thats too much money.
Sorry but I was expecting 70 or 80 for the Cd but 145....

Not sure I can justify spending that.
Feel a little exploited...maybe its just for now
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Reply #327 posted 06/24/20 11:52pm

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Some of these will work right now (and then maybe stop working), most of them won't work but might start working soon... (I currently do not have an Amazon code for the remastered 2LP, hence this is missing.)

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SOTT Super Deluxe - 8CD + DVD USA CAN GBR FRA DEU ITA ESP AUS JPN
SOTT Super Deluxe - 13LP + DVD USA CAN GBR FRA DEU ITA ESP AUS JPN
SOTT Deluxe - 3CD USA CAN GBR FRA DEU ITA ESP AUS JPN
SOTT Deluxe - 4LP USA CAN GBR FRA DEU ITA ESP AUS JPN
SOTT Remastered - 2CD USA CAN GBR FRA DEU ITA ESP AUS JPN
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Reply #328 posted 06/25/20 12:03am

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Just preordered vinyl super deluxe from amazon UK. Looks like they deliver across EU, since I'm in Poland.

And I'm going crazy about it biggrin biggrin biggrin
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Reply #329 posted 06/25/20 12:10am

simon1969

Chappers72 said:

Do you know what ..thats too much money. Sorry but I was expecting 70 or 80 for the Cd but 145.... Not sure I can justify spending that. Feel a little exploited...maybe its just for now

Like most things on Amazon the price for this will fluctuate and Amazon will charge the cheapest price that it has been when they ship it

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