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June7

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Don’t Piss in the Wind and Call It Purple Rain

This is my report and review of the Grammy/Prince “Tribute” Show.

https://vocal.media/beat/...e-a9c30s63


Response to (specifically one Orger - he knows who he is) but also anyone who doesn’t understand where I’m coming from.

1. I got the ticket that day, hours before the show.

2. I was aware there would be filming of a concert. I wasn’t aware it would be a television production. The two are NOT the same.

3. I mentioned I do not fault the artists.

4. I never complained about the sound. Glad you agree about the seating.

5. This wasn’t a Prince concert. But, what’s your point? That people should accept being treated this way? As a brown person over 50, I know this treatment all too well. I make it a point to not accept this treatment and to speak against it when it happens. Everyone should.

6. I didn’t go to ‘hate watch’. I was extremely excited to go to this. I wanted to see Sheila E. again, and I had never seen The Revolution before. I still haven’t, if being treated like a criminal is the price tag? I’m not going to pay it.

7. I was so looking forward to this. I didnt go in hostile, I went in excited and humble. I left hostile and disappointed.

8. I felt the love - I joined in on the love, but if you think I’m going to accept shoddy treatment, think again.

9. (For one Orger in particular) I don’t need you to deem whether what I say, report, write or feel is credible to you or anyone. I write for me. I write for what I believe in and how I think things should be. I love Prince and have supported and promoted him and his music for over 40 years - so, don’t think I am just talking out of my ass.

If I were to be mistreated and stayed, I wouldn’t be me, and I refuse to be treated that way.
[PRINCE 4EVER!]

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Reply #1 posted 01/29/20 4:14pm

heymistermusic

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WOW! shake what the shit!! I'd be pissed too! I'm sorry your evening ended up like that, and I'm sure PRINCE wouldn't want that for you either.

I sure do appreciate all that you do for the ORG and for those of us with love in our heart for PRINCE. I'll continue to spread the purple love in any way I can.

I'm glad you gave it a shot, better luck next time. Just not at a Grammy tribute thingy. hmph!

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Reply #2 posted 01/29/20 4:16pm

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heymistermusic said:

WOW! shake what the shit!! I'd be pissed too! I'm sorry your evening ended up like that, and I'm sure PRINCE wouldn't want that for you either.

I sure do appreciate all that you do for the ORG and for those of us with love in our heart for PRINCE. I'll continue to spread the purple love in any way I can.

I'm glad you gave it a shot, better luck next time. Just not at a Grammy tribute thingy. hmph!




Thanks - I appreciate that. smile
[PRINCE 4EVER!]

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Reply #3 posted 01/29/20 5:56pm

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Wait. You PAID 175 for 5 minutes because you were offended?

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #4 posted 01/29/20 7:06pm

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rdhull said:

Wait. You PAID 175 for 5 minutes because you were offended?



$125
Mistreated, not offended.
Yes.
[PRINCE 4EVER!]

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Reply #5 posted 01/30/20 1:37am

JorisE73

Wow, what a bad experience and really bad that you were treated like that, I also thought it was a full on concert and that's how it was advertised I think. And even having to pay for it rolleyes

A little correction tho, Prince did use corporate sponsors (Coca-Cola during the ACT3 Tour, Verizon) and funny enough Little Red Corvette (the SOTT concert veriosn) was used yeaqrs ago on a Chevrolet commercial.

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Reply #6 posted 01/30/20 3:37am

remko

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JorisE73 said:

Wow, what a bad experience and really bad that you were treated like that, I also thought it was a full on concert and that's how it was advertised I think. And even having to pay for it rolleyes

A little correction tho, Prince did use corporate sponsors (Coca-Cola during the ACT3 Tour, Verizon) and funny enough Little Red Corvette (the SOTT concert veriosn) was used yeaqrs ago on a Chevrolet commercial.

My ticket of the act II tour aso has Coca Cola as sponsor

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Reply #7 posted 01/30/20 4:01am

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Prince did not hate other artists singing his songs. Even when he did try and play if off like he did, we all knew it was low-key hypocritical because he was covering artists at his own desire. He chose many people to sing his music throughout his career. It's completely invalid for anyone to speak on behalf of Prince's wants/desires/thoughts whether he's dead or alive.

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Also, seriously think before you say he never had corporate sponsership. No tour, album, campaign, or product really sells to the masses without the help of corporate sponsership. Sure, he never had his music in an Old Navy commercial, but that doesn't mean he hasn't partnered with corporations to help sell his music.

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Sorry you had a shitty experience.

prince
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Reply #8 posted 01/30/20 4:03am

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Also why is this a sticky?

prince
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Reply #9 posted 01/30/20 6:25am

rdhull

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TheKid94 said:

Also why is this a sticky?


Because it wasn’t in the regular opened thread it makes it seem the author has an axe to grind.
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #10 posted 01/30/20 7:37am

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In all of Prince’s touring years and all of his productions, he never had a corporate sponsor. He never had a commercial, he never had anything that he considered an ad

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This is patently untrue. Coca-Cola sponsored a tour (and was all over it: on the tickets, on the video screens, even had a massive rotating thingy in the middle of the concert hall IIRC), his music was used in commercials (numerous threads on this site offer plenty of proof), and for Verizon he recorded an exclusive video for "Guitar" that they used as a commercial.

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Can you imagine a red Corvette using the song Little RedCorvette?

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Yes, because it happened in an ad for the 2003 Chevrolet SSR.

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Also note that for the Rave 1999 PPV special, fans also had to pay to attend while celebs got in for free, and the celebs could enter quickly while the fans were freezing their butts of waiting outside.

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[Edited 1/30/20 8:48am]

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Reply #11 posted 01/30/20 8:24am

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This reminds me of the time when i tried to order a t-bone, but the picture IN the menu didn't count as it wasn't listed ON the menu.

Thanks for the awesome review!

"Whatever skin Ur in
we all need 2 b friends"
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Reply #12 posted 01/30/20 8:30am

TwiliteKid

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Why is this a sticky?

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Reply #13 posted 01/30/20 8:42am

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TwiliteKid said:

Why is this a sticky?


Because it happened to a mod? I do sympathise that they felt like they were treated badly, but it's not like they tried to give anyone a sand dollar.

RIP sad
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Reply #14 posted 01/30/20 9:35am

LoveGalore

Dupe sticky. Use the sticky that exists.

Also, you probably shoulda stayed. Shrug.
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Reply #15 posted 01/30/20 9:41am

AZStreet

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I was there too.

There was no mentioned in the advertising/ticket sales that no video/pics were allowed or that it was a taping (to my knowledge).

Once my friend and I got there the signs were way small. And the ushers were extremely anal about pictures and telling people not take pics. There were feeeeeeeeeeew people being asked to delete their pictures while at their seats...i didnt see anybody being escorted out just to delete their pictures and then told they could get back in. They majority of times the ushers in my area just told people dont take pics. So the fact they escorted you out it super whack.

The other part that bugged me was that on the venue map there was no indication that there was going to be a camera setup in the middle of the venue. So when I got there the video cameras in the middle was obstructing our views of the stage as we were behind it. If it was shown on the ticket website i would have gotten seats to the sides.

"You know, this is funky but I wish he'd play like he used to, old scragglyhead son of a...*smack* OOH!"
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Reply #16 posted 01/30/20 9:47am

LoveGalore

AZStreet said:

I was there too.

There was no mentioned in the advertising/ticket sales that no video/pics were allowed or that it was a taping (to my knowledge).

Once my friend and I got there the signs were way small. And the ushers were extremely anal about pictures and telling people not take pics. There were feeeeew people being asked to delete their pictures while at their seats...i didnt see anybody being escorted out just to delete their pictures and then told they could get back in. They majority of times the ushers in my area just told people dont take pics. So the fact they escorted you out it super whack.

The other part that bugged me was that on the venue map there was no indication that there was going to be a camera setup in the middle of the venue. So when I got there the video cameras in the middle was obstructing our views of the stage as we were behind it. If it was shown on the ticket website i would have gotten seats to the sides.



In the initial announcement and all announcements thereafter, the April airing is mentioned. If not for a TV crew, how would this occur?
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Reply #17 posted 01/30/20 9:48am

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Yall knew there would be tv cameras. It stated for weeks that it was going to be aired on television.

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #18 posted 01/30/20 9:50am

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TheEnglishGent said:

TwiliteKid said:

Why is this a sticky?


Because it happened to a mod? I do sympathise that they felt like they were treated badly, but it's not like they tried to give anyone a sand dollar.


falloff

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #19 posted 01/30/20 9:51am

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Why is this a sticky when otherwise luv would come in and say "please use the thread already opened"? or something like that. Not only that, the edited original opening post is a response to someone else on a fb page. This is weird. "Im so confused"-Purple Rain Tour in the dark segment

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[Edited 1/30/20 10:35am]

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #20 posted 01/30/20 10:07am

LoveGalore

rdhull said:

Why is this a sticky when otherwise luv would come in and say "please use the thread already opened"? or something like that. Not only that, the edited original openeing post is a response to someone else on fb page. This i weird. "Im so confused"-Purple Rain Tour in the dark segment

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[Edited 1/30/20 9:53am]

The last few sentences in that bizarre opening salvo above is very Angela Bassett in Waiting To Exhale but for no apparent reason.

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Reply #21 posted 01/30/20 10:11am

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LoveGalore said:

rdhull said:

Why is this a sticky when otherwise luv would come in and say "please use the thread already opened"? or something like that. Not only that, the edited original openeing post is a response to someone else on fb page. This i weird. "Im so confused"-Purple Rain Tour in the dark segment

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[Edited 1/30/20 9:53am]

The last few sentences in that bizarre opening salvo above is very Angela Bassett in Waiting To Exhale but for no apparent reason.

june7 is gong to cut his hair off lol :plays sittin up in my room by brandy:

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #22 posted 01/30/20 10:17am

LoveGalore

rdhull said:

LoveGalore said:

The last few sentences in that bizarre opening salvo above is very Angela Bassett in Waiting To Exhale but for no apparent reason.

june7 is gong to cut his hair off lol :plays sittin up in my room by brandy:

lol lol lol lol lol lol Oh mah gah

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Reply #23 posted 01/30/20 11:05am

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AZStreet said:

I was there too.

There was no mentioned in the advertising/ticket sales that no video/pics were allowed or that it was a taping (to my knowledge).

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Utter nonsense.

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https://www.billboard.com...al-tribute

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http://www.citypages.com/.../566840941

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https://blog.thecurrent.o...rry-lewis/

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https://apnews.com/e672f9...7b8cff753f

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https://www.rollingstone....rt-934548/

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https://www.grammy.com/gr...ohn-legend

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https://variety.com/2020/...203461660/

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Etc.

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Reply #24 posted 01/30/20 11:27am

AZStreet

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BartVanHemelen said:

AZStreet said:

I was there too.

There was no mentioned in the advertising/ticket sales that no video/pics were allowed or that it was a taping (to my knowledge).

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Utter nonsense.

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https://www.billboard.com...al-tribute

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http://www.citypages.com/.../566840941

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https://blog.thecurrent.o...rry-lewis/

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https://apnews.com/e672f9...7b8cff753f

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https://www.rollingstone....rt-934548/

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https://www.grammy.com/gr...ohn-legend

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https://variety.com/2020/...203461660/

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Etc.



My fault I stand corrected. I was referencing the details sent to me when I bought my ticket which I see now that this would be aired at a later date. However there is no mention of not taking pics or videos. And the signs at the venue were small.

"You know, this is funky but I wish he'd play like he used to, old scragglyhead son of a...*smack* OOH!"
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Reply #25 posted 01/30/20 11:38am

Genesia

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AZStreet said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Utter nonsense.

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https://www.billboard.com...al-tribute

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http://www.citypages.com/.../566840941

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https://blog.thecurrent.o...rry-lewis/

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https://apnews.com/e672f9...7b8cff753f

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https://www.rollingstone....rt-934548/

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https://www.grammy.com/gr...ohn-legend

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https://variety.com/2020/...203461660/

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Etc.



My fault I stand corrected. I was referencing the details sent to me when I bought my ticket which I see now that this would be aired at a later date. However there is no mention of not taking pics or videos. And the signs at the venue were small.


Seriously, though. If this is being recorded for broadcast at a later date, there is no way taking photos or videos would be allowed. That is just common sense.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #26 posted 01/30/20 11:48am

AZStreet

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Genesia said:

AZStreet said:



My fault I stand corrected. I was referencing the details sent to me when I bought my ticket which I see now that this would be aired at a later date. However there is no mention of not taking pics or videos. And the signs at the venue were small.


Seriously, though. If this is being recorded for broadcast at a later date, there is no way taking photos or videos would be allowed. That is just common sense.


Makes sense when I think about it. I've just never been to a taping.

"You know, this is funky but I wish he'd play like he used to, old scragglyhead son of a...*smack* OOH!"
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Reply #27 posted 01/30/20 1:54pm

Strive

Why sticky this and not use the existing thread?

Free the music, fire Michael Howe
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Reply #28 posted 01/30/20 2:14pm

LoveGalore

Strive said:

Why sticky this and not use the existing thread?

Because a mod is cwanky, god damn it.

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Reply #29 posted 01/30/20 3:16pm

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I get the sense the basic premise of a Grammy show was offputting to the OP to begin with.

The taping, Grammy sponsorship, crappy venue, etc. would have been all known to the original ticket purchaser and shouldn't have been a surprise even if they weren't ideal.

But holy crap...they stopped the show and did multiple takes!?

Why didn't they just do two tapings like they do for comedy shows, and other tapings? There's no way that didn't effect the audience or other acts.


Also, if we're using Prince's standards for what he would have wanted on a tribute event.... he was a bit obsessive about the cellphones and photos on the P & M tour, for what it's worth. Marching someone out of a venue and forcing them to delete a photo is unacceptable though. What would even be the point, it's going to air, it's going to have tons of promo photos circulating.

I'm glad they are doing tributes outside of Paisley Park though, and glad there are tributes airing where a wider fanbase will get to take part.

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