PeggyO said:

Astasheiks said:

And right before he did all the bolded above that you said... Do you think he put his shirt on backwards, his pants on backwards, and his socks on backwards and then took the pills???

He was likely found and redressed by someone(s) who cared about his dignity. They may have been in a rush and just put the clothes on without checking.

I think it was simple and done with care.

Its understandable the shirt could have been and the pants because seem like the pants were kind of loose fit sweat type black pants (it was not like he or they were putting khakis or jeans backwards) so that could be possibel I suppose but damn even the socks on backwards!!!! hhhmmmm

[Edited 11/20/19 15:16pm]

And Was Prince Security Cameras working on all entrances into Paisley Park the Night he expired?

[Edited 11/20/19 15:18pm]

Astasheiks said:

And Was Prince Security Cameras working on all entrances into Paisley Park the Night he expired?

That is one thing to be seriously sick or dying and put your shirt on backwards but the pants and socks (Everything on backwards as some are saying if that is correct)!!!

https://www.facebook.com/...568821829/

https://www.facebook.com/...tionFile5/

[Edited 11/20/19 15:18pm]

[Edited 11/20/19 17:23pm]

They were the same clothes he wore to the Dr.'s office earlier that evening, minus the jacket.

OperatingThetan said:

Prince commonly wore his clothing backwards as reported by associates. Apparently, he found it more comfortable. I don't know how anyone would have socks on backwards or how that would even be possible. They may have been inside-out, but I haven't seen a confirmed report of that.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Astasheiks said:

And Was Prince Security Cameras working on all entrances into Paisley Park the Night he expired?

That is one thing to be seriously sick or dying and put your shirt on backwards but the pants and socks (Everything on backwards as some are saying if that is correct)!!!

https://www.facebook.com/...568821829/

https://www.facebook.com/...tionFile5/

[Edited 11/20/19 15:18pm]

No they weren't. Prince(r.i.p.) had them shut off.

Super Star with the security cameras shut off!!!

Astasheiks said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

No they weren't. Prince(r.i.p.) had them shut off.

Super Star with the security cameras shut off!!!

[Edited 11/20/19 17:22pm]

ChocolateBox3121 said:

Astasheiks said:

Super Star with the security cameras shut off!!!

Prince(r.i.p.) became VERY paraniod that someone was watching him. So he had ---- deactivate them.

hhhhhmmmm, Somebody needed to been watching those back and side entrances the Night and Morning of April 20/21!!!!

herb4 said:

PeggyO said:

He was likely found and redressed by someone(s) who cared about his dignity. They may have been in a rush and just put the clothes on without checking.

I think it was simple and done with care.

No. He was in a fentanyl daze and likely had no idea wtf he was doing as he made a half ass attempt to dress himself and shoot at a last ditch attempt to get his shit together, which is really hard when you're near death and have taken enough pills to kill and elephant.

I suppose your idea is possible but doesn't seem likely to me. If someone were even bothered to care or take the time, why go half way with it and actually make it worse? If someone were going to stage it or even worry about it all, they'd have dressed him correctly. The backwards fucked up clothing (to me) only further supports the idea that he was completely out of his gourde.

What happened with him was terrible and tragic but I don't think there's much of a mystery to it and feel confident we know about 95% of how things went down.

I also agree with Herb... there is no evidence or proof that anyone was at PP. What would be the point of someone dressing him? If he was undressed and found in his bed, the outcome was the same. The question I have is where was Prince going when he collapsed and died? Was he going upstairs? Was he going for help? Ugh, still sad..

Prince socks were not on backward.

His socks were inside out.

Josh and Hannah Welton told the detectives the cameras were not working because Prince did not want to live "in fear."

peaceandlove said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Josh and Hannah Welton told the detectives the cameras were not working because Prince did not want to live "in fear."

Interesting. Did they expand on what was meant by living in fear?

There was some article that had Prince saying he was going to drop some "Bombshells" in his memoir some believe those people that were going to be part of his Bombshells didn't want those Bombshells getting out.....hhhhmmmm

[Edited 11/21/19 16:00pm]

macaylasdad said:

herb4 said:

No. He was in a fentanyl daze and likely had no idea wtf he was doing as he made a half ass attempt to dress himself and shoot at a last ditch attempt to get his shit together, which is really hard when you're near death and have taken enough pills to kill and elephant.

I suppose your idea is possible but doesn't seem likely to me. If someone were even bothered to care or take the time, why go half way with it and actually make it worse? If someone were going to stage it or even worry about it all, they'd have dressed him correctly. The backwards fucked up clothing (to me) only further supports the idea that he was completely out of his gourde.

What happened with him was terrible and tragic but I don't think there's much of a mystery to it and feel confident we know about 95% of how things went down.

I also agree with Herb... there is no evidence or proof that anyone was at PP. What would be the point of someone dressing him? If he was undressed and found in his bed, the outcome was the same. The question I have is where was Prince going when he collapsed and died? Was he going upstairs? Was he going for help? Ugh, still sad..

He was 112 lbs, took a gargantuan dose which could have killed him within seconds. Not sure if he had time to dress and run to the elevator. My guess is he was found in bed, cleaned up and hastily dressed by others (Who were not entirely truthful with police)ie., Kirk and ?? There was a text to Sheila late that evening...why?

PeggyO said:

macaylasdad said:

I also agree with Herb... there is no evidence or proof that anyone was at PP. What would be the point of someone dressing him? If he was undressed and found in his bed, the outcome was the same. The question I have is where was Prince going when he collapsed and died? Was he going upstairs? Was he going for help? Ugh, still sad..

He was 112 lbs, took a gargantuan dose which could have killed him within seconds. Not sure if he had time to dress and run to the elevator. My guess is he was found in bed, cleaned up and hastily dressed by others (Who were not entirely truthful with police)ie., Kirk and ?? There was a text to Sheila late that evening...why?

Makes sense... I can buy that, the one loose pill that was found in the bed is suspect to me. What i don't understand is... WHY? They move him to the elevator, what did that accomplish? Prince was still dead from an OD, they had to know he OD? Why not call the paramedics? If there was a cover-up? None of those people involved had anything to gain from Prince's death? As for Shelia (who I don't trust AT ALL) apprantently she was estranged from Prince for years, why would Kirk text her (Kirk if you are reading this, can you explain why?) Was those text messages ever recovered and has any asked Shelia about it? Ugh, so many questions I have!

macaylasdad said:

PeggyO said:

He was 112 lbs, took a gargantuan dose which could have killed him within seconds. Not sure if he had time to dress and run to the elevator. My guess is he was found in bed, cleaned up and hastily dressed by others (Who were not entirely truthful with police)ie., Kirk and ?? There was a text to Sheila late that evening...why?

Makes sense... I can buy that, the one loose pill that was found in the bed is suspect to me. What i don't understand is... WHY? They move him to the elevator, what did that accomplish? Prince was still dead from an OD, they had to know he OD? Why not call the paramedics? If there was a cover-up? None of those people involved had anything to gain from Prince's death? As for Shelia (who I don't trust AT ALL) apprantently she was estranged from Prince for years, why would Kirk text her (Kirk if you are reading this, can you explain why?) Was those text messages ever recovered and has any asked Shelia about it? Ugh, so many questions I have!

The text came from Sheila, I don't think there is evidence of Kirk texting her.

My theory... Prince took the pills shortly after he came home (last email I think was 8:04 or something). Meron stated she and Kirk were there until 10:30. I think they found him that night, dead in his bed. I think they dressed him, and put him in the elevator and left. (I know this sounds really creepy, but the whole dynamic between all of them is kinda crazy). Given that Prince was in such dire straits based on Moline and the dr appts, I can't imagine they would not have checked on him in reality.

I too have puzzled as to why they would put him in the elevator. Only thing I can think of is because they didn't want the bed to be the focus of the death scene? (Because it would be noticed he was cleaned up/tampered with?) I also wonder if they wanted Kornfeld to be somewhat of a witness. I am not imlying murder, but more of a "shoot, what do we do now that we screwed with a death scene?". I can't stop thinking coverup of some sort because I can't figure out why Kirk would say he dropped him off at 8:00 when he was at PP until later (according to Meron).

There's a million different scenarios you can conjure up when people tell conflicting stories.

[Edited 11/22/19 7:59am]

Right on schedule...the loons have arrived and this thread has degenerated to horse shit.

Genesia said:

Right on schedule...the loons have arrived and this thread has degenerated to horse shit.

I assume I am a loon and have taken denigrated an entire forum in one post. And, I arrived on schedule apparently! Go me!

As I said, because of all he conflicting stories, any amount of theories could be conjured. Nobody knows, except those involved. But I always thought forums existed so people could exchange ideas and have conversations. But then again, I am a loon, so what the heck do I know?

[Edited 11/22/19 8:55am]

iamafan said:

Genesia said:

Right on schedule...the loons have arrived and this thread has degenerated to horse shit.

I assume I am a loon and have taken denigrated an entire forum in one post. And, I arrived on schedule apparently! Go me!

As I said, because of all he conflicting stories, any amount of theories could be conjured. Nobody knows, except those involved. But I always thought forums existed so people could exchange ideas and have conversations. But then again, I am a loon, so what the heck do I know?

[Edited 11/22/19 8:55am]

Did I quote you? No.

But now that you've called yourself out - yes, you are one of many.

Genesia said:

Right on schedule...the loons have arrived and this thread has degenerated to horse shit.

Loons in the house! Holler! You can always click away if you don't want to particpate you know...

Just sayin.

Genesia said:

Right on schedule...the loons have arrived and this thread has degenerated to horse shit.

The thread degenerated several pages ago.

Empress said:

Genesia said:

Right on schedule...the loons have arrived and this thread has degenerated to horse shit.

The thread degenerated several pages ago.

This whole place has become a swirling vortex of mental entropy.

Why ignore a perfectly plausible scenario to reach for far-fetched theories? It makes no sense to me.

Genesia said:

Empress said:

The thread degenerated several pages ago.

This whole place has become a swirling vortex of mental entropy.

you can always click away...but yet.... you don't?

Empress said:

Genesia said:

Right on schedule...the loons have arrived and this thread has degenerated to horse shit.

The thread degenerated several pages ago.

sexton said:

Why ignore a perfectly plausible scenario to reach for far-fetched theories? It makes no sense to me.

Exactly. But there's nothing "special" or attention-grabbing about adhering to an Occam's Razor approach.