I Think Prince Was Murdered Mob Style to make it look like an overdose to Take over his Masters & Brand!

Just look at what we see since he's been gone, everything he protected as his own is available now!

When are the results of the post-mortem?

When Prince died, his publicist Yvette Noel-Schure told CNN: “The cause of death remains unknown and it will be at least four weeks before we receive the results of the autopsy.” Sheriff Olson of Carver County, Minnesota promised the press: “We are going to leave no stone unturned and make sure the public know what happened.”

New evidence has now revealed that, at the time of his death, Prince had a very high level of fenantyl, an opioid that is 50 times stronger than heroin. Dr. Lewis Nelson, who is chairman of emergency medicine at Rutgers New Jersey Medical School, has described this as “a pretty clear smoking gun”.

It can be fatal for a person to have a concentration of three to 58 grams of fentanyl per litre in their bloodstream; Prince had 67.8 micrograms per litre in his bloodstream. In addition to this, it be fatal for a person to have 69 micrograms per kilograms of the drug in their liver; there were 450 micrograms per kilograms of the drug in Prince’s liver. It has also been suggested that there was a “potentially” lethal amount of the drug in Prince’s stomach when he died.

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10 Ways to Cover Up a Murder

Relationship

2. The large number of crimes committed are committed by someone close to the victim.

• Pick someone at random.
• 24.2 percent of victims were slain by family members
• 34.6 percent were murdered by their partners
• 53.8 percent were killed by someone they knew

Proximity

3. Where am I?

• Commit the crime in another town.
• Don't travel so far that you can be connected because you took a trip - just far enough that you are outside of the main area of interest to the police.
• Don't be on the road for hours before the crime, as you may become tired.
• Don't be in the area when the big investigation begins.
• Choose a good area without a lot of traffic.

Type of Crime

4. Chose your crime carefully. Make sure it is something that can be committed day or night.

• Shooting - 39.6% in US
• Stabbing
• Bomb
• Poison
• Burning
• Crucifixion
• Striking

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

For what it's worth remember this. P was fully to blame - issues with meds are well documented from 2010 onwards...am I right in thinking he nearly died in 2010 too?

The creation of a purple mystery, creating a superhero image of timelessness, protecting the brand of Prince, not wanting to worry those around, intense need for privacy etc led to many dark tales of how he acted & self managed. It's tragic, it's brutal & it hurts like hell BUT just accept that he was human, had his faults & behaved like many people who were dependent on meds. He was surrounded by "yes" men & women because he designed it that way...any sign of resistance & you were gone.

100% agree that Kirky J , Phaedra , Jill & Meron need to be questioned fully again - probably more so on the shredding of documents & the stuff they bloody stole! However the upshot is that P made his choices & paid the price.

I am just so thankful for all he gave us & consider myself blessed to have lived in the era of Prince in real time.

Totally agree with this. I know it is not popular opinion, but I think Prince knew what he was doing. How in the world do you take pills on Saturday and almost die, then take more pills days later? He was under the care of multiple doctors- if he knew something was laced (or was stronger than he anticipiated based on the whole Moline incident), why wouldn't he just get Kirk to get him more 'legal' prescription meds? (Wasn't he getting meds of some sort at Walgreens the night before?)

I wonder if this would have happened if he wasn't headed to rehab? I think his image was so important to him, and the 'shame' of his image coming undone was probably pretty overwhelming. Plus, pain, addiction, etc. Getting clean probably seemed very overwhelming on many levels...

Madhouse6 said:

The amount he had in his body and also the the incident the previous week he knew he could go on his own terms. My own feeling is that he was terminal, taking stronger and stronger meds, he was badly constipated, probably depressed and decide that as he probably didn’t have long went out on his terms. 21st a full Pink/Cherry moon and we all now how interested he was in moon phases and numbers (2+1+4)

Agree.

What I don't understand is why he said he would never undergo another hip replacement. He had one procedure which seemed to be very helpful. He needed the other side done.

These surgeries are routine and one can have their own blood re-transfused if necessary.

-I also thought that towards the end, he would not have wanted to deteriorate to a place where he was bedridden and dependent on others, perhaps being vulnerable to photos etc.

Strive said:

It's worth remembering that the hospital told them that the pill didn't look to be counterfeit (they didn't get a chance to test it), Prince blamed the narcan shot for what happened and Kirk tried to control Prince's "legal" medication afterwards so he couldn't abuse it. So knowing all of that, that's how Prince could accidentally overdose a second time a few days later. He was desperate and thought he had everything under control.

He also blamed 'flu like symptoms'. There's a reason he refused treatment in Moline as well. A lot is blamed on him being a JW, but he was a JW for the first surgery (or I thought so).

I don't remember every detail, but how could Moline determine that it didn't look counterfeit when it was in his system? He had so many pills all over the place at home too- who knows what was what.

Now do I think he went on the street looking for high-dose fentanyl pills? No. But it wouldn't surprise me if he intentionally took multiple fentanyl pills at once. Of course we will never know.

I agree he was desperate, but not so sure he thought he had everything under control. If he felt he had things under control, he wouldn't have agreed to rehab.

Two 'accidental' overdoses in 5 days will never make sense to me.

Strive said:

It's worth remembering that the hospital told them that the pill didn't look to be counterfeit (they didn't get a chance to test it), Prince blamed the narcan shot for what happened and Kirk tried to control Prince's "legal" medication afterwards so he couldn't abuse it. So knowing all of that, that's how Prince could accidentally overdose a second time a few days later. He was desperate and thought he had everything under control.

He was likely in moderate to more severe withdrawal that last week which can be overwhelming.

PeggyO said:

Madhouse6 said:

The amount he had in his body and also the the incident the previous week he knew he could go on his own terms. My own feeling is that he was terminal, taking stronger and stronger meds, he was badly constipated, probably depressed and decide that as he probably didn’t have long went out on his terms. 21st a full Pink/Cherry moon and we all now how interested he was in moon phases and numbers (2+1+4)

Agree.

What I don't understand is why he said he would never undergo another hip replacement. He had one procedure which seemed to be very helpful. He needed the other side done.

These surgeries are routine and one can have their own blood re-transfused if necessary.

-I also thought that towards the end, he would not have wanted to deteriorate to a place where he was bedridden and dependent on others, perhaps being vulnerable to photos etc.

Sadly, I agree with you both. He was done, he said so himself . What a great, amazing life but in the end, frail and alone. 😢

Second thought, I don't want to speculate any more.

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Genesia said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

from memory I am sure that was aimed at either his having to cancel his gigs OR in reply to a young lady obsessive fan from Japan [?] who had some 2 way twitter interaction with P BUT then threatended & actually attempted suicide / self harm. Huge apologies if this is wrong but i am 99% certain of the timings.

Snake said:

@casi1, I agree, the world will never know. Personally, I think that the only way we will ever know the real truth, is if God himself or Prince himself, comes and tells us exactly what really happened with him! But I think we could all see that something was wrong, health wise, whether it was pills, pain, or a terminal illness, something indeed was wrong with the man!

too bad we cant "hear" what was in Prince's mind those last few months...

Madhouse6 said:

The amount he had in his body and also the the incident the previous week he knew he could go on his own terms. My own feeling is that he was terminal, taking stronger and stronger meds, he was badly constipated, probably depressed and decide that as he probably didn’t have long went out on his terms. 21st a full Pink/Cherry moon and we all now how interested he was in moon phases and numbers (2+1+4)

Nope. He had no other illness except what the opioids were doing to his body. He was not being treated for any other disease. Logic tells us that he wouldn't have gone to Dr S and undergone a full battery of blood/urine tests. He had no clue what was in one pill versus another, as evidenced by these events:
1 - Asking for a legal opioid from Dr S (in Kirk's name). The only reason to do that is to compare the street drugs to the prescription version. They were both identical, as confirmed by the cursory examination of the pills by the Moline hospital pharmacist.
2 - There was no fentanyl in his system per the 4/20 tests yet very few of the legal pills had been taken.
3 - It would take very few of the illegal pills to kill him, since an amount of fentanyl equal to three grains of salt would have been fatal. Imagine what one or two of those pills would have contained.

@laytonian. you just can't say as if it's fact, that "he had no other illness or wasn't being treated for anything else" because we don't know that, unless we were there ourselves and knew the man personally, or was his personal physician. No one is immune from illness, I don't care who you are! We are all human, and suffer from illness at one time or another, and Prince was no exception.

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looby said:

laytonian said:

Madhouse6 said:

The amount he had in his body and also the the incident the previous week he knew he could go on his own terms. My own feeling is that he was terminal, taking stronger and stronger meds, he was badly constipated, probably depressed and decide that as he probably didn’t have long went out on his terms. 21st a full Pink/Cherry moon and we all now how interested he was in moon phases and numbers (2+1+4)

Nope. He had no other illness except what the opioids were doing to his body. He was not being treated for any other disease. Logic tells us that he wouldn't have gone to Dr S and undergone a full battery of blood/urine tests. He had no clue what was in one pill versus another, as evidenced by these events:
1 - Asking for a legal opioid from Dr S (in Kirk's name). The only reason to do that is to compare the street drugs to the prescription version. They were both identical, as confirmed by the cursory examination of the pills by the Moline hospital pharmacist.
2 - There was no fentanyl in his system per the 4/20 tests yet very few of the legal pills had been taken.
3 - It would take very few of the illegal pills to kill him, since an amount of fentanyl equal to three grains of salt would have been fatal. Imagine what one or two of those pills would have contained.

Regarding Number 1, if he got the legal Opiod in Kirk's name, then why didn't he take the recently prescribed one if he had trouble discerning legal from street the night he died? The Moline pharmacy only tested one pill from that Bayer bottle, and it was found to be Norco. But who knows what he really took.

Not sure what you mean about number 2. The fact he didn't have fentanyl in his system on the 20th doesn't mean he didn't take fentanyl-laced pills the night of Moline. Fentanyl stays in your system 24-72 hours depending on what they test (unless it is hair, which results would not have come back that fast). It would have been out of his system by the 20th.

I read a very detailed transcript of what happened in Moline and what was found at Paisley Park (that was released due to FOIA. I am sure you guys have all read it, I just came across it). While at the hospital, he denied being sick or recently being sick. I found it intersting though that they found clindamycin and an anti-viral had been prescribed April 19th from CVS, and the pills were found in the trash at PP. The name of who was prescribed them was redacted, but assuming it was Prince.

It's all just heartbreaking. I know people die every day, but he was one special person.

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peaceandlove said:

laytonian said:

Madhouse6 said:

The amount he had in his body and also the the incident the previous week he knew he could go on his own terms. My own feeling is that he was terminal, taking stronger and stronger meds, he was badly constipated, probably depressed and decide that as he probably didn’t have long went out on his terms. 21st a full Pink/Cherry moon and we all now how interested he was in moon phases and numbers (2+1+4)

Nope. He had no other illness except what the opioids were doing to his body. He was not being treated for any other disease. Logic tells us that he wouldn't have gone to Dr S and undergone a full battery of blood/urine tests. He had no clue what was in one pill versus another, as evidenced by these events:
1 - Asking for a legal opioid from Dr S (in Kirk's name). The only reason to do that is to compare the street drugs to the prescription version. They were both identical, as confirmed by the cursory examination of the pills by the Moline hospital pharmacist.
2 - There was no fentanyl in his system per the 4/20 tests yet very few of the legal pills had been taken.
3 - It would take very few of the illegal pills to kill him, since an amount of fentanyl equal to three grains of salt would have been fatal. Imagine what one or two of those pills would have contained.

Nope-

He had significant facial wasting which does not come from being an addict, alone.

Could not keep food down, difficulty swallowing. These are not symptoms of sraight drug use.

Been a nurse for 25+ years, just no.

Like the previous poster mentioned, Fentanyl flushes quickly. He had 5 days before the blood test.

He would not have wanted folks to see Fent in his labs as it would have been alarming to many.

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PeggyO said:

laytonian said:

Nope. He had no other illness except what the opioids were doing to his body. He was not being treated for any other disease. Logic tells us that he wouldn't have gone to Dr S and undergone a full battery of blood/urine tests. He had no clue what was in one pill versus another, as evidenced by these events:
1 - Asking for a legal opioid from Dr S (in Kirk's name). The only reason to do that is to compare the street drugs to the prescription version. They were both identical, as confirmed by the cursory examination of the pills by the Moline hospital pharmacist.
2 - There was no fentanyl in his system per the 4/20 tests yet very few of the legal pills had been taken.
3 - It would take very few of the illegal pills to kill him, since an amount of fentanyl equal to three grains of salt would have been fatal. Imagine what one or two of those pills would have contained.

Nope-

He had significant facial wasting which does not come from being an addict, alone.

Could not keep food down, difficulty swallowing. These are not symptoms of sraight drug use.

Been a nurse for 25+ years, just no.

Like the previous poster mentioned, Fentanyl flushes quickly. He had 5 days before the blood test.

He would not have wanted folks to see Fent in his labs as it would have been alarming to many.

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This might sound stupid, but I always thought his kinda hollow cheeks were how he was kinda posing. Like how you would look if you sucked your cheeks in - is that facial wasting?

I know that Moline did a pretty thorough physical exam and they didn't note anything of significance (outside the fact he was recovering from Narcan). I would think if he was in really bad shape, something would have shown up. (I know he refused blood work, and even an EKG).

I didn't used to think that he had anything chronically wrong outside of addiction. But the facial issue and the presciprtion for Valacyclovir makes me wonder unfortunately. (Of course he could have had a cold sore or something).

I will always respect the hell out of him regardless of any issues. I just wish that he didn't feel that he had to uphold a crazy high standard for himself and he could've gotten whatever treatment he needed for all of it. If only he knew that most people wouldn't care about addiction (or whatever) and would just want him to feel good and happy. And the people that would care, well who cares about them.

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iamafan said:

PeggyO said:

Nope-

He had significant facial wasting which does not come from being an addict, alone.

Could not keep food down, difficulty swallowing. These are not symptoms of sraight drug use.

Been a nurse for 25+ years, just no.

Like the previous poster mentioned, Fentanyl flushes quickly. He had 5 days before the blood test.

He would not have wanted folks to see Fent in his labs as it would have been alarming to many.

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[Edited 11/16/19 14:50pm]

This might sound stupid, but I always thought his kinda hollow cheeks were how he was kinda posing. Like how you would look if you sucked your cheeks in - is that facial wasting?

I know that Moline did a pretty thorough physical exam and they didn't note anything of significance (outside the fact he was recovering from Narcan). I would think if he was in really bad shape, something would have shown up. (I know he refused blood work, and even an EKG).

I didn't used to think that he had anything chronically wrong outside of addiction. But the facial issue and the presciprtion for Valacyclovir makes me wonder unfortunately. (Of course he could have had a cold sore or something).

I will always respect the hell out of him regardless of any issues. I just wish that he didn't feel that he had to uphold a crazy high standard for himself and he could've gotten whatever treatment he needed for all of it. If only he knew that most people wouldn't care about addiction (or whatever) and would just want him to feel good and happy. And the people that would care, well who cares about them.

I only bring it up when folks insist his condition was drug-related only.

It is loss of fat in the fat-pads of the face which causes an aged look.

He did have a crazy high standard for himself. We, his fans, would have always loved him.

PeggyO said:

laytonian said:

Nope. He had no other illness except what the opioids were doing to his body. He was not being treated for any other disease. Logic tells us that he wouldn't have gone to Dr S and undergone a full battery of blood/urine tests. He had no clue what was in one pill versus another, as evidenced by these events:
1 - Asking for a legal opioid from Dr S (in Kirk's name). The only reason to do that is to compare the street drugs to the prescription version. They were both identical, as confirmed by the cursory examination of the pills by the Moline hospital pharmacist.
2 - There was no fentanyl in his system per the 4/20 tests yet very few of the legal pills had been taken.
3 - It would take very few of the illegal pills to kill him, since an amount of fentanyl equal to three grains of salt would have been fatal. Imagine what one or two of those pills would have contained.

Nope-

He had significant facial wasting which does not come from being an addict, alone.

Could not keep food down, difficulty swallowing. These are not symptoms of sraight drug use.

Been a nurse for 25+ years, just no.

Like the previous poster mentioned, Fentanyl flushes quickly. He had 5 days before the blood test.

He would not have wanted folks to see Fent in his labs as it would have been alarming to many.

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TrcikyChristopher said:

littlemissG said:

looby said:

laytonian said:

looby said:

@laytonian. you just can't say as if it's fact, that "he had no other illness or wasn't being treated for anything else" because we don't know that, unless we were there ourselves and knew the man personally, or was his personal physician. No one is immune from illness, I don't care who you are! We are all human, and suffer from illness at one time or another, and Prince was no exception.

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I have confirmed that with people who were close to him and knew. His illness was caused by opioids, which damage your liver, cause nausea, weight loss and constipation. Every symptom he was exhibiting but did not recognize. He had a drug problem from the early 2000s. Don't fall for the rumors .

I tend to agree with you, Laytonian. I have seen healthy people in their 30's that had nothing else wrong with them except opiate addition exhibit the same symptoms. They get skinny because they have no appetite and their cheeks hollow out. Constipation unfortunately is common, as the gut tract quits funtioning normally because the opioids slow it down too.

Not a day goes by that this does not make me angry that this was the end of such a musical genius. Big Pharma is really to blame pushing these painkillers on people for years and causing the epidemic. We would have forgiven him, he just didn't know it.....................

laytonian said:

looby said:

@laytonian. you just can't say as if it's fact, that "he had no other illness or wasn't being treated for anything else" because we don't know that, unless we were there ourselves and knew the man personally, or was his personal physician. No one is immune from illness, I don't care who you are! We are all human, and suffer from illness at one time or another, and Prince was no exception.

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I have confirmed that with people who were close to him and knew. His illness was caused by opioids, which damage your liver, cause nausea, weight loss and constipation. Every symptom he was exhibiting but did not recognize. He had a drug problem from the early 2000s. Don't fall for the rumors .

If you're going to throw this out here then how about naming some names.

I'm sick on the couch with nothing to do, so I have been reading more and more Prince stuff. Have you seen the website called princeinvestigationfile5.com? It has a some interesting info. Like I always thought Kirk dropped Prince off at 8 pm and he was left alone. That website shows that Kirk and Meron was there much later. (According to Meron's testimony). There's also a photo of NPG music club stairs the Kirk sent at 9:48 pm inadvertantly to Michael Schumberg. Of course, he could have been home when he sent it.

Also shares that Sheila E texted Kirk at 2:35 am the day Prince died, so there is obviously a bit of a coverup in terms of when he was discovered. Sheila E apparently said she overhead someone say that Price died in his bedroom and he was taken to the elevator.

Sorry if you guys are all aware of this stuff. I was not, so that is why I am sharing.

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rogifan said:

laytonian said:

looby said: I have confirmed that with people who were close to him and knew. His illness was caused by opioids, which damage your liver, cause nausea, weight loss and constipation. Every symptom he was exhibiting but did not recognize. He had a drug problem from the early 2000s. Don't fall for the rumors .

If you're going to throw this out here then how about naming some names.

I thought about liver failure/damage, but usually a person becomes fairly jaundiced (yellow) and develops a very large abdomen with fluid, called ascites. Just a thought.

Constipation was caused by the opiates.