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Reply #120 posted 07/02/19 9:29am

rdhull

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OnlyNDaUsa said:



Genesia said:




OnlyNDaUsa said:




that is because there is a physical option. I bought 2 copies of the CD (Amazon and Target) and I streamed it off Tidal (free trial) and off of YouTube... If there was no physical option I would have to subscriber to some service to listen.


Keep in mind there may be over 10K hours of content (Live, resherals, jams, and studio) that is too much to release in physical form.




It's precious that you think we'll ever get all that.




did I say all?



You’ll be lucky to get 1/4th of it
c'mon baby, where's ya guts?
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Reply #121 posted 07/03/19 7:38am

PURPLEIZED3121

why are peeps still getting erections over sales figures in this day & age? Totally irrelevant in age of streaming. I got mine via Tidal & might buy the Vinyl when it comes out.

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Reply #122 posted 07/05/19 12:12pm

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After debuting at number 21 in the UK charts last week , its now completely dropped out of the top 100 after a week , doesn't bode well for future releases , basically only the hardcore fans are purchasing these releases , confirmation that the casual music fan is not interested in Prince posthomous releases.

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Reply #123 posted 07/05/19 12:46pm

feeluupp

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dodgydicko said:

After debuting at number 21 in the UK charts last week , its now completely dropped out of the top 100 after a week , doesn't bode well for future releases , basically only the hardcore fans are purchasing these releases , confirmation that the casual music fan is not interested in Prince posthomous releases.

On The Hits Daily Double it looks like it's already out of the Top 50 this week, indicating sales less than 8,000...

It didn't even make the Top 15 on world wide chart for debuts...

I think this could be one of the lowest selling Prince albums, as of right now it hasn't even surpassed N.E.W.S. numbers...

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Reply #124 posted 07/05/19 1:09pm

antonb

Why are you obsessed with the sales. And then slaging it off. It's all about the big picture. Not what's happening now. I think your a wind up merchant and a Jackson fan. Prince will live on forever. Your just an idiot
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Reply #125 posted 07/05/19 2:02pm

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antonb said:

Why are you obsessed with the sales. And then slaging it off. It's all about the big picture. Not what's happening now. I think your a wind up merchant and a Jackson fan. Prince will live on forever. Your just an idiot

Sorry not obsessed. Just post the sales for each new album since that is considered Prince news and a discussion, settle down, settle down.

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Reply #126 posted 07/05/19 3:37pm

FrankieCoco1

The sales figures for Originals appear to be slow, but has there been any upward spike in overall streaming or purchasing of Prince music, coinciding with this release (or similarly when P&M was released last year)? Could it be that these recent releases aren’t just about selling what comes out, but a bit of marketing for Prince music in general?
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Reply #127 posted 07/05/19 5:31pm

feeluupp

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FrankieCoco1 said:

The sales figures for Originals appear to be slow, but has there been any upward spike in overall streaming or purchasing of Prince music, coinciding with this release (or similarly when P&M was released last year)? Could it be that these recent releases aren’t just about selling what comes out, but a bit of marketing for Prince music in general?

They did a big marketing campaign on this... I don't know about other recent releases, they all fell off the charts fast, the song reissues... But it appears Originals is selling very poorly.

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Reply #128 posted 07/06/19 9:22am

macaylasdad

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

why are peeps still getting erections over sales figures in this day & age? Totally irrelevant in age of streaming. I got mine via Tidal & might buy the Vinyl when it comes out.

because sales drive revenue.... If you were a business...would you continue to put a product out (coming from your own money) for no one to buy...probably not. You would cut your losses. Thats why sales matter. It shows the interest or lackthereof...

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Reply #129 posted 07/06/19 11:29am

feeluupp

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As of now, Originals has sold less than N.E.W.S. lol lol

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Reply #130 posted 07/07/19 1:26pm

jfenster

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

why are peeps still getting erections over sales figures in this day & age? Totally irrelevant in age of streaming. I got mine via Tidal & might buy the Vinyl when it comes out.

sex shooter ..come and play with my erection

[Edited 7/7/19 13:27pm]

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Reply #131 posted 07/07/19 6:01pm

SoulAlive

Are posthumous albums usually big sellers? hmmm I would think that these type of albums would only appeal to the hardcore fans and not necessarily the general public.

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Reply #132 posted 07/07/19 6:03pm

SoulAlive

dodgydicko said:

basically only the hardcore fans are purchasing these releases , confirmation that the casual music fan is not interested in Prince posthomous releases.

well then if that's the case,the estate needs to come up with some kind of subscription service where hardcore fans can purchase stuff from the vault.I think that would be much more profitable for them.

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Reply #133 posted 07/07/19 6:22pm

feeluupp

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SoulAlive said:

dodgydicko said:

basically only the hardcore fans are purchasing these releases , confirmation that the casual music fan is not interested in Prince posthomous releases.

well then if that's the case,the estate needs to come up with some kind of subscription service where hardcore fans can purchase stuff from the vault.I think that would be much more profitable for them.

The fact that this release sold so poorly, it is out of the Top 50 already, sold way less than Piano & A Microphone, the estate really needs to step up their game if this is really just for the hardcore fans.

We need box sets now, with unseen video releases as well as vault material, that's the bottom line. That's what the fans want.

This release was GOOD, but it still falls far short of what should be released.

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Reply #134 posted 07/07/19 8:56pm

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SoulAlive said:



dodgydicko said:


basically only the hardcore fans are purchasing these releases , confirmation that the casual music fan is not interested in Prince posthomous releases.




well then if that's the case,the estate needs to come up with some kind of subscription service where hardcore fans can purchase stuff from the vault.I think that would be much more profitable for them.



Yep here we are again with the only concept that makes sense, hell I was saying this while P was still with us.
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Reply #135 posted 07/07/19 9:55pm

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We're all armchair quarterbacks here, none of us facing the harsh reality of the financials, but here's my take anyway..

The music is the asset of course. And there are folks who want to use these assets for their own projects in documentaries, films, musicals, books etc.

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I would leverage the tracks in the release of said works in a joint release to maximize the spotlight and financial costs in release. It spreads/splits/shifts the cost/work in promotion/productions to a third party with a vested interest in seeing a return on investment.

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Reply #136 posted 07/07/19 11:50pm

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It doesn't cost to much to release the music. It's just music sitting there-just production and the making of the cheap discs. They will continue to make them.

99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment
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Reply #137 posted 07/08/19 12:19am

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If these sales figures encourage the Estate to market and cater premium releases directly to hardcore fans then we will finally benefit and receive products that (mostly) meet our expectations.

We don't have their projected sales figures though, and I'm not certain what sales mean any longer when the majority are streaming music and the entire Originals album is available to listen to for free on YouTube.

A single and video released ahead of the album may have helped, but a decent, successful biopic or Netflix documentary series is probably required to garner more casual interest.
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Reply #138 posted 07/08/19 6:24am

feeluupp

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Wow based on this sales, this flopped really bad, like really bad...

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Reply #139 posted 07/08/19 10:07am

PURPLEIZED3121

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Wow based on this sales, this flopped really bad, like really bad...

it was never going to be anything other than a so called flop especially as Tidal probably ate up potential physical sales as is the norm. Don't forget the initial hype & generally great reviews would have given the main hits catalogue a spike in physical sales & streaming listens.

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Reply #140 posted 07/08/19 10:11am

PURPLEIZED3121

If it's of any use here's the Wiki chart positions - for such a niche product with a 2 week head start for streaming I think these are OK - please please tell me what other artist vault releases have done better? Also, the Vinyl is due out on the 19th.

https://en.wikipedia.org/...um)#Charts

Charts[edit]

Chart (2019)Peak
position
Australian Albums (ARIA)[7] 18
Austrian Albums (Ö3 Austria)[8] 34
Belgian Albums (Ultratop Flanders)[9] 7
Belgian Albums (Ultratop Wallonia)[10] 31
Canadian Albums (Billboard)[11] 66
Dutch Albums (Album Top 100)[12] 11
French Albums (SNEP)[13] 32
German Albums (Offizielle Top 100)[14] 26
Hungarian Albums (MAHASZ)[15] 11
Irish Albums (IRMA)[16] 53
Italian Albums (FIMI)[17] 59
Japanese Albums (Oricon)[18] 15
Scottish Albums (OCC)[19] 11
Spanish Albums (PROMUSICAE)[20] 13
Swedish Albums (Sverigetopplistan)[21] 54
Swiss Albums (Schweizer Hitparade)[22] 9
UK Albums (OCC)[23] 21
US Billboard 200[24] 15

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Reply #141 posted 07/08/19 10:26am

soladeo1

Here's another way to look at this:

What deceased pop/rock/soul star had a new release of "vault material" in the past year that sold more than THE ORIGINALS?

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Reply #142 posted 07/08/19 10:28am

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

feeluupp said:

Wow based on this sales, this flopped really bad, like really bad...

it was never going to be anything other than a so called flop especially as Tidal probably ate up potential physical sales as is the norm. Don't forget the initial hype & generally great reviews would have given the main hits catalogue a spike in physical sales & streaming listens.

Nobody even streamed it... I posted the sales plus streaming numbers, his streaming numbers equalled less than 1,000 sales I believe...

So no this nonsense of everyone listened to it on TIDAL that's why the sales are low, is not accurate.

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Reply #143 posted 07/08/19 10:35am

PURPLEIZED3121

feeluupp said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

it was never going to be anything other than a so called flop especially as Tidal probably ate up potential physical sales as is the norm. Don't forget the initial hype & generally great reviews would have given the main hits catalogue a spike in physical sales & streaming listens.

Nobody even streamed it... I posted the sales plus streaming numbers, his streaming numbers equalled less than 1,000 sales I believe...

So no this nonsense of everyone listened to it on TIDAL that's why the sales are low, is not accurate.

what's that in actual streaming figures? - ultimately each stream is a potential sale - would genuinely love to know? I streamed it as part of my Tidal subscription & have zero intention of buying it = 1 lost sale.

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Reply #144 posted 07/08/19 10:49am

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PURPLEIZED3121 said:

feeluupp said:

Nobody even streamed it... I posted the sales plus streaming numbers, his streaming numbers equalled less than 1,000 sales I believe...

So no this nonsense of everyone listened to it on TIDAL that's why the sales are low, is not accurate.

what's that in actual streaming figures? - ultimately each stream is a potential sale - would genuinely love to know? I streamed it as part of my Tidal subscription & have zero intention of buying it = 1 lost sale.

His streaming figures contributed to 914 actual physical sales for the first week release numbers.

So basically 95A% are actually buying the phsyical release and maybe less than 5% are actually streaming it.

So it being released on TIDAL for 2 weeks had absolutely no impact to the total sales whatsover, his streaming numbers are that low.

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Reply #145 posted 07/08/19 1:04pm

jfenster

sell the final atlanta show video to HBO and ask fans who were at the show to make comments of the performance ...air the mofo worldwide with the interviews

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Reply #146 posted 07/09/19 7:08am

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https://www.billboard.com...LFWK-rKmBo

Originals debuted a number #15 on the Billboard 200 with just 21,000 sales.


On its second week it dropped all the way down to #140.

Selling less than 3,000 copies.

This is shocking to see how LOW the sales are, this isn't even average sales, it is a complete flop.

Right now N.E.W.S. has sold much more than Originals.

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Reply #147 posted 07/09/19 7:12am

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And to top off the ridiculous LOW sales...

The streaming numbers for the second week, literally NOBODY is streaming this album, a few thousand streams at most.

Wow the estate really messed up with this release in terms of any commercial prospect.

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Reply #148 posted 07/09/19 7:48am

pain

If the prince's Estate want to reach new fans,they should look what the MJ's Estate did and try to do that
-the estate should give fans the possibility to post prince's videos or performances on Twitter,Instagram or Youtube
-organize meetings with the fans
-etc....
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Reply #149 posted 07/09/19 7:54am

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The last two releases were essentially lame. I don't even want either of them, and I'm a hard core fan. I think these diminish his legacy, and he would feel the same. They are releasing these little tid bits, but nothing major (besides the Purple Rain "deluxe" release. Let's hope for the 1999 "deluxe" release. I also want more recent stuff... the intended track list for '20ten', the 'Welcome 2 America' album, 'Black is the New Black', etc.

"He's a musician's musician..."
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