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PrintableOnlyNDaUsa said:
did I say all? You’ll be lucky to get 1/4th of it "Climb in my fur." | |
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why are peeps still getting erections over sales figures in this day & age? Totally irrelevant in age of streaming. I got mine via Tidal & might buy the Vinyl when it comes out.
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After debuting at number 21 in the UK charts last week , its now completely dropped out of the top 100 after a week , doesn't bode well for future releases , basically only the hardcore fans are purchasing these releases , confirmation that the casual music fan is not interested in Prince posthomous releases. | |
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On The Hits Daily Double it looks like it's already out of the Top 50 this week, indicating sales less than 8,000...
It didn't even make the Top 15 on world wide chart for debuts... I think this could be one of the lowest selling Prince albums, as of right now it hasn't even surpassed N.E.W.S. numbers... | |
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Why are you obsessed with the sales. And then slaging it off. It's all about the big picture. Not what's happening now. I think your a wind up merchant and a Jackson fan. Prince will live on forever. Your just an idiot |
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Sorry not obsessed. Just post the sales for each new album since that is considered Prince news and a discussion, settle down, settle down.
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The sales figures for Originals appear to be slow, but has there been any upward spike in overall streaming or purchasing of Prince music, coinciding with this release (or similarly when P&M was released last year)? Could it be that these recent releases aren’t just about selling what comes out, but a bit of marketing for Prince music in general? There may or may not be something coming! |
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They did a big marketing campaign on this... I don't know about other recent releases, they all fell off the charts fast, the song reissues... But it appears Originals is selling very poorly. | |
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because sales drive revenue.... If you were a business...would you continue to put a product out (coming from your own money) for no one to buy...probably not. You would cut your losses. Thats why sales matter. It shows the interest or lackthereof... | |
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As of now, Originals has sold less than N.E.W.S. | |
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[Edited 7/7/19 13:27pm] | |
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Are posthumous albums usually big sellers? | |
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I would think that these type of albums would only appeal to the hardcore fans and not necessarily the general public.
well then if that's the case,the estate needs to come up with some kind of subscription service where hardcore fans can purchase stuff from the vault.I think that would be much more profitable for them. | |
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The fact that this release sold so poorly, it is out of the Top 50 already, sold way less than Piano & A Microphone, the estate really needs to step up their game if this is really just for the hardcore fans.
We need box sets now, with unseen video releases as well as vault material, that's the bottom line. That's what the fans want.
This release was GOOD, but it still falls far short of what should be released. | |
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SoulAlive said:
well then if that's the case,the estate needs to come up with some kind of subscription service where hardcore fans can purchase stuff from the vault.I think that would be much more profitable for them. Yep here we are again with the only concept that makes sense, hell I was saying this while P was still with us. |
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We're all armchair quarterbacks here, none of us facing the harsh reality of the financials, but here's my take anyway..
The music is the asset of course. And there are folks who want to use these assets for their own projects in documentaries, films, musicals, books etc. . I would leverage the tracks in the release of said works in a joint release to maximize the spotlight and financial costs in release. It spreads/splits/shifts the cost/work in promotion/productions to a third party with a vested interest in seeing a return on investment.
[Edited 7/7/19 21:58pm] | |
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It doesn't cost to much to release the music. It's just music sitting there-just production and the making of the cheap discs. They will continue to make them. 99.9% of everything I say is strictly for my own entertainment | |
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If these sales figures encourage the Estate to market and cater premium releases directly to hardcore fans then we will finally benefit and receive products that (mostly) meet our expectations. We don't have their projected sales figures though, and I'm not certain what sales mean any longer when the majority are streaming music and the entire Originals album is available to listen to for free on YouTube. A single and video released ahead of the album may have helped, but a decent, successful biopic or Netflix documentary series is probably required to garner more casual interest. | |
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Wow based on this sales, this flopped really bad, like really bad... | |
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it was never going to be anything other than a so called flop especially as Tidal probably ate up potential physical sales as is the norm. Don't forget the initial hype & generally great reviews would have given the main hits catalogue a spike in physical sales & streaming listens. | |
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If it's of any use here's the Wiki chart positions - for such a niche product with a 2 week head start for streaming I think these are OK - please please tell me what other artist vault releases have done better? Also, the Vinyl is due out on the 19th.
https://en.wikipedia.org/...um)#Charts
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Here's another way to look at this:
What deceased pop/rock/soul star had a new release of "vault material" in the past year that sold more than THE ORIGINALS? | |
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Nobody even streamed it... I posted the sales plus streaming numbers, his streaming numbers equalled less than 1,000 sales I believe...
So no this nonsense of everyone listened to it on TIDAL that's why the sales are low, is not accurate. | |
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what's that in actual streaming figures? - ultimately each stream is a potential sale - would genuinely love to know? I streamed it as part of my Tidal subscription & have zero intention of buying it = 1 lost sale. | |
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His streaming figures contributed to 914 actual physical sales for the first week release numbers.
So basically 95A% are actually buying the phsyical release and maybe less than 5% are actually streaming it.
So it being released on TIDAL for 2 weeks had absolutely no impact to the total sales whatsover, his streaming numbers are that low. | |
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sell the final atlanta show video to HBO and ask fans who were at the show to make comments of the performance ...air the mofo worldwide with the interviews | |
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https://www.billboard.com...LFWK-rKmBo
Originals debuted a number #15 on the Billboard 200 with just 21,000 sales.
On its second week it dropped all the way down to #140.
Selling less than 3,000 copies.
This is shocking to see how LOW the sales are, this isn't even average sales, it is a complete flop.
Right now N.E.W.S. has sold much more than Originals. | |
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And to top off the ridiculous LOW sales...
The streaming numbers for the second week, literally NOBODY is streaming this album, a few thousand streams at most.
Wow the estate really messed up with this release in terms of any commercial prospect. | |
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If the prince's Estate want to reach new fans,they should look what the MJ's Estate did and try to do that -the estate should give fans the possibility to post prince's videos or performances on Twitter,Instagram or Youtube -organize meetings with the fans -etc.... | |
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The last two releases were essentially lame. I don't even want either of them, and I'm a hard core fan. I think these diminish his legacy, and he would feel the same. They are releasing these little tid bits, but nothing major (besides the Purple Rain "deluxe" release. Let's hope for the 1999 "deluxe" release. I also want more recent stuff... the intended track list for '20ten', the 'Welcome 2 America' album, 'Black is the New Black', etc. "He's a musician's musician..." | |
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