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Reply #60 posted 06/26/19 8:39pm

feeluupp

Hits Daily Double current sales figures (60% complete)

6 PRINCE | ORIGINALS
RHINO/WARNER
14,301 13,392 453 456

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Reply #61 posted 06/26/19 9:10pm

Transformed1

Well, in spite of finding a digital copy early, I still did my part and purchased the physical CD on Monday.

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Reply #62 posted 06/26/19 9:27pm

RODSERLING

sro100 said:

What is with all the junk over "first week" sales?



Today is Wednesday 6/26 and the CD hasn't even yet been out a full week?????




You make a good point.
I was under the impression it was released 2 weeks ago!
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Reply #63 posted 06/26/19 9:28pm

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TwiliteKid said:



RODSERLING said:


TwiliteKid said:



Again, you're looking at this through the wrong lens. The label's and sales projections/expecations are much lower than you think they are.



Bullshit. With all the coverage in the press, and the contracts and deals signed, the searching of the tapes (3000$ a tape) that cost a lot of money...All of that to be happy with less than 50.000 albums ! Manic Monday reached the 200.000 views on YouTube. That means they made like 200 dollars from this operation lol. It s a little compensation. How many copies of the album have to be sold for them to earn 200 bucks... [Edited 6/26/19 14:31pm]


You don't understand what you're talking about. You never have.



No, you don't! eek
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Reply #64 posted 06/26/19 10:16pm

thebiscuit

They’re trying to sell a concept album of music the world already knows and treat it like it’s a big new flashy thing. Only music aficionados are interested in this demo stuff I’m telling you. Release P’s latest work to have your best chance of appealing to a wide audience. Release P&M Gala concert at PP. Blu-Ray and album.
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Reply #65 posted 06/26/19 11:08pm

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feeluupp said:



RODSERLING said:


Not even in the UK top 100 : https://www.officialchart...ums-chart/


Wow so this is the lowest selling posthumous release so far...



4ever and Piano & A Microphone outsold Originals...




It is currently no.15 in the mid week chart.
Posting a link here is too complicated and antiquated but is is on here:
https://www.officialchart...on__26672/
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Reply #66 posted 06/27/19 6:16am

RodeoSchro

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***harsh truth warning***

Folks, the harsh truth is this Prince albums since 2006 didn't sell all that well, infact, the declinced until 2016. He was alive and touring and couldn't boost sales. So what's the incentive now? His die hards are the only ones who want vault/new music....not the general public.

At some point, the peeps at WB or Sony are to going to pull the plug on any music being released because their won't be an ROI for them. They are going to suck the 1983 to 1986 era dry. we will get 1999 and ATWID and Parade remasters'deluxe and that will be it. Sadly for us.

The estate is going to have to come up with a way to keep that revnue stream flowing, as mentioned by many (and even myself) STREAM EVERY MOTHER F!@#$% thing from the vault...video, concerts, rehearsals, music. EVERYTHING. There will be a slow but constant stream of cash for the estate.

But by the time that will happen, I will be able to ask Prince myself, "Dude..WTF were you thinking? You left things all f!@#$ up down there"



I don't think you understand how the music industry works now. Or for that matter, how Prince constructed his tours.

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Reply #67 posted 06/28/19 3:07am

RODSERLING

Manic Monday reached the 300.000 mark on YouTube in 5 days.
With an average of 67.000 views a day, it performs well for a Prince track. It will become for sure in the top 20 of the best viewed Prince songs on YouTube.

When Doves Cry (2 versions combined) is now making "only" 44.000 views a day.

For the record, in 4 years the Bangles version made 35 millions.

Let s hope it will be followed soon by a better music video for Love Thy Will Be Done, to support Originals.
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Reply #68 posted 06/28/19 1:26pm

feeluupp

Hits Daily Double 1st week sales 89% complete:

-- 6 PRINCE | ORIGINALS
RHINO/WARNER
14,443 13,392 453 598

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Reply #69 posted 06/28/19 1:27pm

feeluupp

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[Edited 6/28/19 16:07pm]

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Reply #70 posted 06/28/19 1:42pm

cjmc2006

Manic Monday has done over 300,000 views in under a week and is still a Top 6 Album on Amazon. It's doing better than MADONNA's NEW ALBUM.

I think it will end up doing pretty well if we keep promoting it and spread the word on it's merits.

Daily Double isn't always accurate.

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Reply #71 posted 06/28/19 2:15pm

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Most albums lose money because they don't recoup their production/recording costs. Do you realize how little overhead there is on this album? The bar for success for something like this is not the same as Madonna or Bruce's new albums and certainly not on the level of something like a new Drake or Post Malone album. If they want a new Prince album to do anything remotely close to that they have to get a hot new artist on it (like MJ's estate did with 'Xscape'). And if they did that Prince fans would lose their minds so they're better off not going that route. This album is doing fine for what it is, and even for a Prince posthumous release it had a streaming release two weeks ago and that blip of Thursday sales (which caused it to debut a week early at number 9 on the Billboard Digital Albums chart) so a lot of the first week number for Originals have been deflated in a way that future releases won't be. So much unnecessary hand-wringing around here...

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Reply #72 posted 06/28/19 2:26pm

macaylasdad

RodeoSchro said:

macaylasdad said:

***harsh truth warning***

Folks, the harsh truth is this Prince albums since 2006 didn't sell all that well, infact, the declinced until 2016. He was alive and touring and couldn't boost sales. So what's the incentive now? His die hards are the only ones who want vault/new music....not the general public.

At some point, the peeps at WB or Sony are to going to pull the plug on any music being released because their won't be an ROI for them. They are going to suck the 1983 to 1986 era dry. we will get 1999 and ATWID and Parade remasters'deluxe and that will be it. Sadly for us.

The estate is going to have to come up with a way to keep that revnue stream flowing, as mentioned by many (and even myself) STREAM EVERY MOTHER F!@#$% thing from the vault...video, concerts, rehearsals, music. EVERYTHING. There will be a slow but constant stream of cash for the estate.

But by the time that will happen, I will be able to ask Prince myself, "Dude..WTF were you thinking? You left things all f!@#$ up down there"



I don't think you understand how the music industry works now. Or for that matter, how Prince constructed his tours.

oh boy here it comes....save your myths and theories about the music industry and how Prince did his tour....it really doesn't matter....what all comes down to is CASH.... cash these releases aren't making.

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Reply #73 posted 06/28/19 4:05pm

feeluupp

Entered at #21 on the U.K. Charts

https://www.officialchart...ums-chart/

[Edited 6/29/19 12:47pm]

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Reply #74 posted 06/28/19 4:06pm

feeluupp

Hits Daily Double 1st week sales figures are in:

http://hitsdailydouble.co..._streaming

15 PRINCE | ORIGINALS
RHINO/WARNER
21,555

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Reply #75 posted 06/28/19 4:22pm

TKO

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This is actually doing better than the Hit n Run albums back before he died. #2 in top selling albums is a big deal.
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Reply #76 posted 06/28/19 8:12pm

CynicKill

I heard Prince was one of the top deceased artist of 2018.

His P&M album moved about 250,000 copies, earning the estate thirteen million dollars.

So apparently these demo projects are cash cows.

I'll leave how Prince didn't cement his legacy enough to another topic.

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Reply #77 posted 06/28/19 9:05pm

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CynicKill said:

His P&M album moved about 250,000 copies, earning the estate thirteen million dollars.

it did?

"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #78 posted 06/28/19 9:23pm

feeluupp

rdhull said:

CynicKill said:

His P&M album moved about 250,000 copies, earning the estate thirteen million dollars.

it did?

250,000 world wide sales? I doubt that, unless you can provide chart figures, as P&M fell of the world wide charts in the 2nd week. You can revert back to my P&M sales thread I made.

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Reply #79 posted 06/28/19 10:48pm

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Reply #80 posted 06/29/19 1:06am

linus4000

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renfield said:

Most albums lose money because they don't recoup their production/recording costs. Do you realize how little overhead there is on this album? The bar for success for something like this is not the same as Madonna or Bruce's new albums and certainly not on the level of something like a new Drake or Post Malone album. If they want a new Prince album to do anything remotely close to that they have to get a hot new artist on it (like MJ's estate did with 'Xscape'). And if they did that Prince fans would lose their minds so they're better off not going that route. This album is doing fine for what it is, and even for a Prince posthumous release it had a streaming release two weeks ago and that blip of Thursday sales (which caused it to debut a week early at number 9 on the Billboard Digital Albums chart) so a lot of the first week number for Originals have been deflated in a way that future releases won't be. So much unnecessary hand-wringing around here...


Co sign !
The two weeks tidal exclusive hurt first week sales....
And for some people „demos“ are probably not that interesting...
In fact there are no demos, but the normal fan does not know....
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Reply #81 posted 06/29/19 1:08am

linus4000

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Polo1026 said:

This isn't about record sales or where Prince is charting it's about companies demonstrating the depth and value of his vault while determining the direction of his legacy. These releases aren't designed to be the tools to feed his estate or demonstrate the commercial viability of Prince. These releases are essentially commercials for the real money which is no longer in record sales nor streaming. I am going to make this very clear, record companies are not making money off of album sales and streams. They make money off of rights fees from the streaming companies. The value of Prince is that he is a must have catalog for ANY platform. Warner Bros made their money back and then some for this release already regardless of what it streamed or sold. So all this 'Sales' talk is moot, Prince's value to Warner/Sony is so much more than you think. In fact, it's way more than anyone outside of a very small group. They aren't planning yearly releases for the next 5 years to lose money. BTW, Tidal is extremely happy with the new subscriber numbers.



Very true...of course a high chart entry is good for promotion, too.
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Reply #82 posted 06/29/19 5:54am

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RODSERLING said:

Not even in the UK top 100 : https://www.officialchart...ums-chart/


#21 in the streaming chart.

U been bamboozled, hoodwinked, took.
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Reply #83 posted 06/29/19 7:33am

rdhull

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CynicKill said:


Wow...13 mil ain’t bad
"Climb in my fur."
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Reply #84 posted 06/29/19 9:51am

RODSERLING

CynicKill said:



Wow...250k seems very low...It would mean about 80.000 each of Purple Rain, P&M, and various greatest hits... worldwide. And about 10.000 of the rest of the whole catalogue.
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Forbes also claims 2 millions albums for Lennon...What? That s impossible, unless they count the Beatles sales on it.
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Reply #85 posted 06/29/19 11:50am

jfenster

alll i know it was a bitch to find this thing in nyc.....3 targets and 3 barnes and noble ..and i found last copy ...so it must be selling

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Reply #86 posted 06/29/19 12:12pm

RODSERLING

Personally, I m waiting for the deluxe edition.
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Reply #87 posted 06/29/19 12:44pm

feeluupp

jfenster said:

alll i know it was a bitch to find this thing in nyc.....3 targets and 3 barnes and noble ..and i found last copy ...so it must be selling

First week sales was 21,000... So... It's not really "selling"...

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Reply #88 posted 06/29/19 12:51pm

feeluupp

Originals First Week Sales:

USA: 21,000

U.K.: #21

JAPAN: #15

AUSTRALIA: #18

NETHERLANDS: #11

World Wide sales should be released this weeks via Global Charts.

Overall a very mediocre showing, Piano & A Microphone had much stronger sales in the U.S. and worldwide.

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Reply #89 posted 06/29/19 2:28pm

Marrk

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Originals is reverb laden, echoey, weird tampered with shit. Not good enough estate. Expand/remaster his albums. Originals is bonus track material at best. Idiots.

[Edited 6/29/19 14:30pm]

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