kikitwitme said:

minnesoundlvr said:

sonshine said:

minnesoundlvr said:

I think the "Prince as the poster child for the opiod epidemic" reporting is fed, in large part, by the seeminly endless discussions on prince.org (on threads like this one) about his alleged drug use over the years. Conversely, threads about some of his relationships are censored or removed, but these like this one are allowed to go on for pages and pages and part after part.

Don't think Prince.org is very influential with the greater populace.

petalthecat said:

peggyon said:

sonshine said:

peggyon said:

Don't think Prince.org is very influential with the greater populace.

Maybe, maybe not. But this is the only place i ever read the words "poster boy" for drug addicts, or "drugged out rock star" and the like. Never have i read him referred to as such anywhere.

Seriously, I was saying that the media has him labeled as a poster boy or a drugged out rock star. This other guys OD and death has nothing to do with Prince, but yet right there next to the headline about the dude, was Prince's picture. I have yet to see anybody on the Org label Prince as a poster boy or drugged out rock star.

I was reading an article about Demi Lavato the other day and they are saying she took oxy mixed with fentanyl and snorted it. And again, who's name was mentioned? Prince.

This thread alone paints Prince as poster boy for drugs daily. Claiming he was addicted for YEARS!

An inmate was executed this week using Fentanyl. I did not read beyond the headline, but I wonder if the reporter referenced Prince and Tom Petty when describing the drug. I don't think he was the poster boy for using, but information has come out that he did use for years - what and when is still questionable, but we have to agree it did occur.

1Sasha said:

An inmate was executed this week using Fentanyl. I did not read beyond the headline, but I wonder if the reporter referenced Prince and Tom Petty when describing the drug. I don't think he was the poster boy for using, but information has come out that he did use for years - what and when is still questionable, but we have to agree it did occur.

The article I read didn't mention Prince or Petty, but they did say the execution took longer then expected.

And yes, the info that is coming out does show he used for years.

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Some may have forgotten – In March 2016, the U.S. Senate passed the Bill to Combat Drug Abuse. P passed in April 2016. Congress passed the Opiod Drug Abuse in July 2016. The third article down and others date the start of the opiod crisis to the 1990’s. The media and others have to have an example, IMO.

Also, in this thread, and similar threads, when posters point to what has been agreed are weaknesses in the investigation, a person or group of persons swoop in quickly to redirect the focus to drugs and seem to “filibuster” the thread, creating numerous pages on drug discussion or white space.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/11/us/politics/senate-drug-abuse-bill.html https://www.nbcnews.com/h...ll-n608946 https://www.vox.com/2016/...ids-heroin

che777x said:

Some may have forgotten – In March 2016, the U.S. Senate passed the Bill to Combat Drug Abuse. P passed in April 2016. Congress passed the Opiod Drug Abuse in July 2016. The third article down and others date the start of the opiod crisis to the 1990’s. The media and others have to have an example, IMO.

Also, in this thread, and similar threads, when posters point to what has been agreed are weaknesses in the investigation, a person or group of persons swoop in quickly to redirect the focus to drugs and seem to “filibuster” the thread, creating numerous pages on drug discussion or white space.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/11/us/politics/senate-drug-abuse-bill.html https://www.nbcnews.com/h...ll-n608946 https://www.vox.com/2016/...ids-heroin

Yep. It hasn't gone unnoticed

che777x said:

Some may have forgotten – In March 2016, the U.S. Senate passed the Bill to Combat Drug Abuse. P passed in April 2016. Congress passed the Opiod Drug Abuse in July 2016. The third article down and others date the start of the opiod crisis to the 1990’s. The media and others have to have an example, IMO.

Also, in this thread, and similar threads, when posters point to what has been agreed are weaknesses in the investigation, a person or group of persons swoop in quickly to redirect the focus to drugs and seem to “filibuster” the thread, creating numerous pages on drug discussion or white space.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/11/us/politics/senate-drug-abuse-bill.html https://www.nbcnews.com/h...ll-n608946 https://www.vox.com/2016/...ids-heroin

It seems that there are a good number of people who suspect that P was murdered, a good number who think it may have been a suicide, and a good number who think that it is much more likely that it was, as ruled, an accidental death. Many of those who lose their lives to opiate-related accidents meet criteria for addiction.

Within EACH group of posters on this thread, (those who suspect murder, those who suspect suicide, those who suspect accident, and those who think more than one of these things is plausible), there are clearly many who believe that there were significant weaknesses in the investigation.

So...trying to understand here. Again, Prince's death was ruled accidental, and many of those who lose their lives to opiates meet criteria for addiction. Are you suggesting that people should come to this thread to discuss murder vs. suicide vs. accident, and to discuss investigation weaknesses that may have weakened that determination and compromised other things as well? Are you suggesting, at the same time, that mentions of addiction be directed elsewhere?

By that logic, a thread on "investigation of death ruled a suicide" would direct mentions of medical condition (depression) very often related to ruled (suicide) cause of death to a different thread. In the case of thread on "investigation of death attributed to heart failure," mentions of genetic condition affecting the heart would be sent to a different thread. In the case that a family announces someone died due to complications from diabetes, mentions of diabetes would go to a different thread.

Is that how you would like to see things organized?

Chazz is saying that he is meeting with the new US Attorney and the DEA. Carver County Sheriff and Mark Metz have been invited to attend.

Maybe the case will be reopened?

PennyPurple said:

Chazz is saying that he is meeting with the new US Attorney and the DEA. Carver County Sheriff and Mark Metz have been invited to attend.

Maybe the case will be reopened?

I sure hope not! I'm hurt and I'm sure most of his fans are. But no matter what, he will remain dead. Let's let Prince in death the way he tried to be in life. In Peace. Let's not be wild.

justalongtimefan said:

PennyPurple said:

Chazz is saying that he is meeting with the new US Attorney and the DEA. Carver County Sheriff and Mark Metz have been invited to attend.

Maybe the case will be reopened?

I sure hope not! I'm hurt and I'm sure most of his fans are. But no matter what, he will remain dead. Let's let Prince in death the way he tried to be in life. In Peace. Let's not be wild.

Unfortunately, this is reality. It’s not about the fans, it’s about Prince. Let’s stop thinking of Prince as if he was a commodity. He deserves a thorough investigation just as we would want for any member of our family.

muchtoofast said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

But you don't know that only, why are you being so aggressive?

If you pretend to be someone you’re not, someone who has had sex with Prince, and say things like Prince needed to be loved like a baby, like wtf? No one wants their chain yanked so you can while away the hours on a legit fan site. It pisses people off. Jmho of course.

This can ALL be solved very easily: prince.org verifies significant associates (family members, employees, friends) as well as established journalists who have written about the man, and any other hangers-on who play a verifible role in his life.

If someone like Alan Leeds, Chazz or a notable fan like Questlove (I know you don't like him, but I do) want to pop into a thread and add to the discussion, they can. This way the thread doesn't have to waste my time by making me scan through pages filled with a bunch of pissing and moaning about whether CatB is really Cat or a farmer from Idaho.

It would take a average coder about an hour to do, although I can't recall how long I've tried to upload a simple avatar on this site (I've given up now), so verified accounts will never happen. Therefore, readers will continue to waste time and enegry trying to determine whether or not someone like CatB is legit. Personally, I'd rather come to the Prince Investigation threads and figure our what Kirky J. is hiding from us.

(Not off topic considering this thread, now in its 12 chapter, could be so much more concise and revealing with verified badges.)

True, but he also deserves the respect, dignity and privacy most non-famous or non-criminal folks have when they die. Those wanting this for Prince aren't just thinking of him as a "commodity". BTW, conspiracy theories about dead celebrities are a racket as well.

che777x said:

justalongtimefan said:

I sure hope not! I'm hurt and I'm sure most of his fans are. But no matter what, he will remain dead. Let's let Prince in death the way he tried to be in life. In Peace. Let's not be wild.

Unfortunately, this is reality. It’s not about the fans, it’s about Prince. Let’s stop thinking of Prince as if he was a commodity. He deserves a thorough investigation just as we would want for any member of our family.

che777x said:

Unfortunately, this is reality. It’s not about the fans, it’s about Prince. Let’s stop thinking of Prince as if he was a commodity. He deserves a thorough investigation just as we would want for any member of our family.

Nobody but his fans care enough to find out what really happened.

PennyPurple said:

I didn't get that vibe from the reports. Prince seemed more varied than just an "asshole".

muchtoofast said:

PennyPurple said:

Nobody but his fans care enough to find out what really happened.

I think Chazz is going to be unhappy with how this meeting plays out. These professional folks aren’t about emotions or wishes and hopes and dreams. The investigation came to an end because there is nothing left to investigate except who sold P the fentanyl. Kirk could tell us Prince was in show business and had a perfectly lovable show business stage persona but was an asshole in real life. He can’t tell us where Prince got the drugs because he doesn’t know. Is that what you want?

muchtoofast said:

muchtoofast said:

PennyPurple said:

Nobody but his fans care enough to find out what really happened.

I think Chazz is going to be unhappy with how this meeting plays out. These professional folks aren’t about emotions or wishes and hopes and dreams. The investigation came to an end because there is nothing left to investigate except who sold P the fentanyl. Kirk could tell us Prince was in show business and had a perfectly lovable show business stage persona but was an asshole in real life. He can’t tell us where Prince got the drugs because he doesn’t know. Is that what you want?

At least Chazz is trying.

What I want is someone to be held accountable in Prince's death.

PennyPurple said:

muchtoofast said:

PennyPurple said: I think Chazz is going to be unhappy with how this meeting plays out. These professional folks aren’t about emotions or wishes and hopes and dreams. The investigation came to an end because there is nothing left to investigate except who sold P the fentanyl. Kirk could tell us Prince was in show business and had a perfectly lovable show business stage persona but was an asshole in real life. He can’t tell us where Prince got the drugs because he doesn’t know. Is that what you want?

At least Chazz is trying.

What I want is someone to be held accountable in Prince's death.

Penny, with respect and affection, at the end of the day Prince is accountable for his own premature death. Anyone who takes street drugs, for any reason, has no real idea what they're taking...end of story. It sounds like he dodged many bullets over the years bc of his drug use and apparently, in response, did not take aggressive, proactive steps via proper medical evaluation and a comprehensive rehab program because of his mania for privacy and control. Either he spun the wheel that last time and lost...or he did it intentionally.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

PennyPurple said:

At least Chazz is trying.

What I want is someone to be held accountable in Prince's death.

Penny, with respect and affection, at the end of the day Prince is accountable for his own premature death. Anyone who takes street drugs, for any reason, has no real idea what they're taking...end of story. It sounds like he dodged many bullets over the years bc of his drug use and apparently, in response, did not take aggressive, proactive steps via proper medical evaluation and a comprehensive rehab program because of his mania for privacy and control. Either he spun the wheel that last time and lost...or he did it intentionally.

That is true Bodhi, I just think the fellow who got drugs in his name for Prince should be held accountable in someway. Dr. S was found doing wrong doings, KJ should be also.

Scusa ma come ho detto 'prima non capisco molto dell'inglese (in effetti per niente) puoi aiutarmi per favore? DrS 4/20 prescritto P Clonidina, Diazepam e idrossizina, ma quante pillole mancano in ogni confezione? E poi un'altra cosa, i contenitori nel nome di kirk trovati all'interno del sacchetto nero di P (Vitamina d2 e ondansetron hcl) non hanno una data di prescrizione ... e quanti ne mancano in quelli? E poi non riesco a capire dove hanno trovato le pillole nel nome di P? Potresti aiutarmi per favore? grazie mille

p.s. I know you are tired of always hearing the same questions but try to understand me please

[Edited 8/19/18 14:10pm]

Roby78 said:

Scusa ma come ho detto 'prima non capisco molto dell'inglese (in effetti per niente) puoi aiutarmi per favore? DrS 4/20 prescritto P Clonidina, Diazepam e idrossizina, ma quante pillole mancano in ogni confezione? E poi un'altra cosa, i contenitori nel nome di kirk trovati all'interno del sacchetto nero di P (Vitamina d2 e ondansetron hcl) non hanno una data di prescrizione ... e quanti ne mancano in quelli? E poi non riesco a capire dove hanno trovato le pillole nel nome di P? Potresti aiutarmi per favore? grazie mille

p.s. I know you are tired of always hearing the same questions but try to understand me please

[Edited 8/19/18 14:10pm]

C'erano più pillole in ogni bottiglia e sono stati tutti mescolati. Kirk ha preso le ricette che il dottore ha dato a P il 4/20 a casa con lui. Il principe ha detto che non ha funzionato ??

l flacone di vitamina D2 nel nome di Kirks conteneva 7 capsule verdi con l'impronta 194 e conteneva anche 8 pillole ovali di colore arancione. Il flacone di CVS che conteneva Odansetron conteneva 10 pastiglie bianche incise A349 e 1 pastiglia arancione con 8 iscritte. Non dice quanti dovrebbero essere stati in ogni bottiglia.

The bottles in the name of P were:

Clonidine (30 pills)

hydroxyzine (30 pills

)Diazepam (15 pills) ---> Vallium

what I want to know and how many pills are missing for each bottle (always if they are missing), possible that they have omitted this detail?