This is the topic. I feel Prince died for his fans.

PennyPurple said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Hi Pete! That was me that said P's browser showed someone looked up mediatakeout before he passed.

Prince was probably looking at the blind article like he would be here on the org

do u think someone used Princes computer to put out the blind article on the different websites, or that Prince would regularly look upthese gossip sites?

80tomato said:

PennyPurple said:

Prince was probably looking at the blind article like he would be here on the org

do u think someone used Princes computer to put out the blind article on the different websites, or that Prince would regularly look upthese gossip sites?

I think he would look at the gossip sites. I don't think anyone would use his computer to tip the gossip sites.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

This is the topic. I feel Prince died for his fans.

He didn't die for his fans, he died of neglect from his handlers.

i'd add that, in fairness, he died due to some choice he himself made. I can't put 100% of the responsibility on his handlers; he was a grown man.

PennyPurple said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

This is the topic. I feel Prince died for his fans.

He didn't die for his fans, he died of neglect from his handlers.

disch said:

i don't know. At the end of his life, I do think people were trying to help (getting Dr K involved etc., getting him to see Dr S). I think they had limited capabilities in this area -- and Prince was not exactly an open and cooperative participant.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

disch said:

i'd add that, in fairness, he died due to some choice he himself made. I can't put 100% of the responsibility on his handlers; he was a grown man.

He was a grown man with a serious problem and the people closest to him pointed him towards the dark and gave him a little shove...

ChocolateBox3121 said:

This is the topic. I feel Prince died for his fans.

Okay. Now you can stop. We get it.

Prince didn't like the word manager. Said he was his own man and didn't need one. I can just imagine how he would feel about the word handler. He wasn't a trained seal.

poppys said:

Prince didn't like the word manager. Said he was his own man and didn't need one. I can just imagine how he would feel about the word handler. He wasn't a trained seal.

Well they did most everything for him, including Kirk answering the Drs questions that he was asking Prince. Nobody said he was a trained seal. Heck Meron even stocked up on his enemas for him.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

PeteSilas said:

shady as fuck especially since funksterr said here the other day that he knew the person from P's camp to spread the aids rumor and he correctly stated that Prince's computer browser had visited the site where the rumor started. somethings fucked up.

Hi Pete! That was me that said P's browser showed someone looked up mediatakeout before he passed.

oh, ok, funksterr said it factored into us losing him, i orgnoted him but he's gone. the way he talked he was close to the circle, or at least a lot closer than us. My question to him was if the blind item wasn't true why on earth would it have any bearing on prince's death? I would think in that situation, he had bigger problems than the same types of rumours that the famous always have to live with.

80tomato said:

PennyPurple said:

Prince was probably looking at the blind article like he would be here on the org

do u think someone used Princes computer to put out the blind article on the different websites, or that Prince would regularly look upthese gossip sites?

no no no, the org most likely mentioned it, if i remember correctly, first prince came here, saw the thread and went from there. funksterr seems to be another one who wants to be cryptic which is ok, it'll all come out god willing.

PeteSilas said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

PeteSilas said:

oh, ok, funksterr said it factored into us losing him, i orgnoted him but he's gone. the way he talked he was close to the circle, or at least a lot closer than us. My question to him was if the blind item wasn't true why on earth would it have any bearing on prince's death? I would think in that situation, he had bigger problems than the same types of rumours that the famous always have to live with.

It's irrelevant because prince didn't have an illness

that's what i would think so that's why i asked funksterr why it would be a "factor in why we lost him". he never answered. His choice but i asked.

PeteSilas said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

PeteSilas said:

that's what i would think so that's why i asked funksterr why it would be a "factor in why we lost him". he never answered. His choice but i asked.

Trolling...just go by the facts

think so??

six months ago i set out to try to figure out who killed kennedy, i tell you, i went from someone who was mildly interested in the case to obsessed, i was hooked, but after hours and hours of watching and listening to all the experts and witnesses, i finally just gave up but i leaned towards it just being oswald/no conspiracy whatsoever as the warren report stated. problem with prince is, i can't just quit i'm stuck in that mode. fuck.

PeteSilas said:

ChocolateBox3121 said:

This is the topic. I feel Prince died for his fans.

I get where you are coming from ChocolateBox3121

PeteSilas said:

80tomato said:

In one of the bathroom pics there is a medication for ringing in the ears

i would think there is only so much they could do as musicians, it's occupational hazard, I guess they could wear earplugs but then how well would they hear what they need to hear. someone said here years ago (blackguitarist i think) that Prince was losing his ability to hear high end, which is common, my mentor couldn't hear women's voices (or so his receptionist told me) as well as he used to and he was 75 or so at the time.

My wife tells me I suffer the same problem.

Rebeljuice said:

PeteSilas said:

i would think there is only so much they could do as musicians, it's occupational hazard, I guess they could wear earplugs but then how well would they hear what they need to hear. someone said here years ago (blackguitarist i think) that Prince was losing his ability to hear high end, which is common, my mentor couldn't hear women's voices (or so his receptionist told me) as well as he used to and he was 75 or so at the time.

My wife tells me I suffer the same problem.

disch said:

i'd add that, in fairness, he died due to some choice he himself made. I can't put 100% of the responsibility on his handlers; he was a grown man.

PennyPurple said:

He didn't die for his fans, he died of neglect from his handlers.

Alas, after such a heavy week or so of ready all the reports etc I can only conclude that the purple mofo died from his own arrogance. He bullied people into getting his pills & I would suggest Kirk was actually trying to balance getting P help whilst trying to not get fired.

In terms of the finacial rip offs etc in the last few months that's another matter.

Bottom line is that he always lived on the edge & beleived in his own super human powers.

So angry BUT will always love him..just huge respect is lost.

WeDaBest said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

disch said:

i'd add that, in fairness, he died due to some choice he himself made. I can't put 100% of the responsibility on his handlers; he was a grown man.

Alas, after such a heavy week or so of ready all the reports etc I can only conclude that the purple mofo died from his own arrogance. He bullied people into getting his pills & I would suggest Kirk was actually trying to balance getting P help whilst trying to not get fired.

In terms of the finacial rip offs etc in the last few months that's another matter.

Bottom line is that he always lived on the edge & beleived in his own super human powers.

So angry BUT will always love him..just huge respect is lost.

To me, that seems to have been the intent behind all this foolishness. It's like someone has been deliberately trying to destroy the respect of Prince. I've felt this way and I've said so for years.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

Alas, after such a heavy week or so of ready all the reports etc I can only conclude that the purple mofo died from his own arrogance. He bullied people into getting his pills & I would suggest Kirk was actually trying to balance getting P help whilst trying to not get fired.

In terms of the finacial rip offs etc in the last few months that's another matter.

Bottom line is that he always lived on the edge & beleived in his own super human powers.

So angry BUT will always love him..just huge respect is lost.

To me, that seems to have been the intent behind all this foolishness. It's like someone has been deliberately trying to destroy the respect of Prince. I've felt this way and I've said so for years.

Really ? What makes you say that, and why would Prince want to tarnish his own solid reputation?

If anything, he was trying to hide his problems.

My respect for him hasn´t diminished at all, on the contrary, I respect him even more ....considering how he tried to keep his composure all the time even in pain.

PeteSilas said:

Robbajobba said:

I've been wondering about this. Also thinking about all that speculation about him having Alzheimer's, and the Brown Mark interview about Prince forgetting he played bass... I never thought he had Alzheimer's, but I did wonder at the time of the MB interview if Prince had just been so doped up he wasn't always thinking straight. And so maybe wasn't keeping on top of his business like he might have done...

most likely that's how it is, if you've ever burned yourself out bad enough, you know it ain't no goddamn alzheimers fucking with your brain functioning, you're just exhausted.

It doesn't always mean you're doped up or high. Some chronic pain conditions and especially medications can cause "brain fog". I take anti seizure meds and get this occasionally. I can stand in front of a door for 30 seconds cos i can't remember how to open it.

KoolEaze said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

To me, that seems to have been the intent behind all this foolishness. It's like someone has been deliberately trying to destroy the respect of Prince. I've felt this way and I've said so for years.

Really ? What makes you say that, and why would Prince want to tarnish his own solid reputation?

If anything, he was trying to hide his problems.

My respect for him hasn´t diminished at all, on the contrary, I respect him even more ....considering how he tried to keep his composure all the time even in pain.

Everything that's happened in the last 10 to 20 years makes me say that. When looked at collectively, the dots connect and form a very disturbing picture.

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

KoolEaze said:

Really ? What makes you say that, and why would Prince want to tarnish his own solid reputation?

If anything, he was trying to hide his problems.

My respect for him hasn´t diminished at all, on the contrary, I respect him even more ....considering how he tried to keep his composure all the time even in pain.

Everything that's happened in the last 10 to 20 years makes me say that. When looked at collectively, the dots connect and form a very disturbing picture.

I agree, it's a very disturbing picture. It's a picture of a controlling man so wealthy and powerful he could isolate himself to an extreme degree and have it viewed at being 'mysterious' or 'eccentric' rather than being unhealthy.

It's a picture of a man who was habituated to bouncing people out of his life so those around him knew never to question or disagree with him.

It's a picture of a man so opinionated and strident in his beliefs that 'stubborn' doesn't begin to describe his mind-set.

It's a picture of hypocracy, secrets, arrogance, manipulation and smoke and mirrors which, when you add drugs, could only end one way.

The MIRACLE of Prince, may he rest with the angels, is that NONE of this will ever touch his reputation for being one of the most talented and prolific musical savants ever to walk the earth,

The man was much, much bigger than his flaws.

There were return calls to Meron from Hazelden which is in Minn, so it looks like they were making calls figuring out what to do. The week between Moline and the end was crucial. It seems like everyone, including Prince, was dragging their feet. I think they did want to help him but it would have taken something extreme to do it, like kidnapping him outta Paisley, and then what? You can't force an adult to get treatment, can you?