dandan said:

luvsexy4all said:

notice his hand is touching/pointing to the Sun...

For god's sake, shut up.

whats the problem?

luvsexy4all said:

from facebook:

All other findings aside . . . If Prince KNEW he had over 70 illegally obtained pills scattered all over PP, why would he get Kirk to go to a doctor days before his death to get more? They found over 70! It's not like he was running out! This outcome is not a surprise and Metz knows the truth. He just isn't allowed to prove it. I wonder who wrote the 30K cheque for the doc

Is this statement on Facebook to suggest that they feel he was murdered?

cloveringold85 said:

luvsexy4all said:

dandan said:

luvsexy4all said: For god's sake, shut up.

whats the problem?

ya, i figured someone would make something of that. the sun is our oldest god, the grower of life, and if you check, is the story of christ symbolically. so i figured someone would try to make something of that. I doubt if the paramedics who dragged him out would have taken the time to point his fingers at it but we got some out there ideas around here.

Strawberrylova123 said:

cloveringold85 said:

Prince was drinking those 5-Hour Energy Drinks........Not good.

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Not good, especially when taking medications.

I bet his heart was constantly racing..i know from personal experience energy drinks gives me anxiety

well stop drinking them, i used to drink back to back triple americanos, i had a freak out and i stopped doing that, still drink coffee just not that much.

Strawberrylova123 said:

cloveringold85 said:

Prince was drinking those 5-Hour Energy Drinks........Not good.

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Not good, especially when taking medications.

I bet his heart was constantly racing..i know from personal experience energy drinks gives me anxiety

.

I can't drink that stuff. That junk will give you heart palpatations and all kinds of problems. People are addicted to that stuff; be careful.

PeteSilas said:

2004Fan said:

dandan said:

Lovejunky said: That is one hell of a leap to say that's meant to be fucking snow. It's all over the camera and everything. The white powder has got nothing to do with what is sat on the table. That's like saying 'it's just a Nikon camera, no need to worry'. The white powder is what we're fucking curious about, not his replica sculpture!!

I'm sure there will be something in the Carver County Investigation files that will explain the powder.

whatever it is it was Wet when it was dropped or thrown down. it splattered and left trails indicating it was at a medium velocity and wet. At first, I thought it might be vomit...

She didn't know anything about his life. the informatio (or whatever you want to call it) was from her interaction with prince in 1990. She has sadly struggled in recent years with well-publicized mental-health issues, so I think we should take her statements in that light

206Michelle said:

SoulAlive said:

I find it strange how Sinead is going around,saying all this crap when (as far as we know) she wasn't really close to Prince.They weren't friends.How could she possibly know so much about Prince's personal life? yeah,she visited his home in 1990 but isn't that the only encounter she had with him? We can't take her comments seriously.

Sinead is full of it. I don’t believe the no sense she says about Prince.

She might be holding back what she knew about Prince's past with pills but considering she wasn't at Paisley constantly, her relative newness to his life and his generally eccentric and evasive personality, it is possible she never directly saw him take anything until that night on the plane and just figured he was sick and depressed for the last 3 months. I hope that is the case. it sounds like that night on the plane (if what they are saying is true), Prince was starting to lose control of his facade. Or she might have known he was addict but didn't want to paint him that way to the cops but didn't know that the hard stuff was what he was taking.

cloveringold85 said:

Prince was drinking those 5-Hour Energy Drinks........Not good.

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Not good, especially when taking medications.

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So is it accurate to say that only some of the statements police collected were released? I read the ones from Josh/Hannah, LG, Kirk, Andrew, Meron, and Judith, and the summary of the one from Omarr. Are there others in the materials (I know about Sinead's)? I haven't been able to download or read everything yet; curious about what those who have found. I assume the police took many more statements than what I've seen so far, but perhps redacted them?

OperatingThetan said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

Judith Hills account of the airplane incident is very descriptive

Seems I can no longer access these in the UK.

The links seem fine for me, give them another try.

Strive said:

XxAxX said:

I'm not buying Andrew Kornfeld's story either. He regularly carries drugs when traveling? Wow, that's scary!! He's not qualfied to administer ANY type of drug, yet he states in the case of an emergency, he would ask a doctor first. Now, how in the world can he possibly do that in an emergency situation? That makes no damn sense! He claims he didn't tell his father, Howard Kornfeld that he was taking the drugs with him to Paisley Park. Oh really now? We are supposed to believe that? Howard Kornfeld is a scumbag for ever sending his son Andrew to PP. He should have never been there! What a terrible thing to do to your son and put him in the middle of such an horrific situation. My God!!

Strawberrylova123 said:

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CN:

Okay, okay and I'm not trying to, I'm not trying to pin you down ..

JH:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

CN:

.. to a specific date or whatever, just as best as you can ..

JH:

Yes I think it was the next day was the show.

Unk:

And Judith where are you when you, you first..

JH:

Um LA

CN:

Okay so ..

Unk:

Okay so you're in LA and you get this invitation to go ..

CN:

Yep.

Unk:

_.. to go to it, okay.

CN:

So, so your trip is from LA to, to Atlanta?

JH:

Minneapolis.

Unk:

Oh you're .. okay.

CN:
go?

Oh, to Minneapolis, okay, okay and then when you got to Minneapolis, where did you

JH:

I checked in to the Country Inn, it's a hotel like down the road from Paisley Park.

CN:
Okay, okay and then ah, that was, was that on the day that you guys traveled to Atlanta
or was that the day before?

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JH:

It was the night before.

CN:

The night before, so probably I think on the 13th.

JH:

Yeah.

CN:

Okay then when did you first see ah Prince, Mr. Nelson?

JH:

We got a late start that day so um he picked me up at the hotel noon or oneish.

CN:

Okay.

JH:

Maybe even later, two?

CN:

Okay.
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JH:

Late afternoon.

CN:

Okay and this is the day before?

JH:

This is the day of the show.

CN:

The day of the show, okay ..

JH:

Yeah.

CN:

.. okay and who was with him when he picked you up?

JH:

Um just the driver and it was just me and him.

CN:

Okay, do you know his driver?

JH:
Was it Kim? I think it was Kim that time. She usually does it, yeah I think Kim, I'm not
sure, but I'm pretty sure but it was Kim but it was um usually Kim does the driving.
CN:

Okay.

JH:

Sometimes there's someone else.

CN:

Okay.

JH:

But I think it was Kim that time.

Unk:

What were they, what were they driving that day?

JH:

Ah like an S .. um an SUV, black.

Unk:

Okay.

CN:

Okay and do you know Kim's last name?

JH:

No I don't.

CN:

Okay how, how would' you describe Kim?

JH:

Oh she's really bubbly ..

CN:

Okay.

JH:

.. she's always laughing ..

CN:

Okay.

JH:

.. she's a very happy person, very fun.

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Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB:._
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CN:

White person? Black person? Asian person?

JH:

Yeah white.

CN:

White person.

JH:

Middle, middle aged like.

CN:
Okay, okay, okay so that's the night, that's .. thal's the
the driver and where do you guys go from there?
JH:

Yeah it was Kim.

CN:

Okay, okay.

JH:

Um we go to the airport.

14th

and Prince is there and just

CN:
Okay and Kim drops you off and she's on her way and what ah what were the flight
arrangements at the airport?
JH:

Oh you mean like ..

CN:

Meaning what did you guys fly, what when you got there.

JH:

Oh it was like a small jet ..

CN:

Okay.

JH:

.. we usually fly privately ..

CN:

Yep.

JH:

.. so a small jet, we just came in.

CN:

Okay have, have you flown with Prince numerous times?

JH:

Yeah.

CN:

Okay and is it, is ii usually the same, the same jet do you know or ..

JH:

Um similar, it's always a.. it's not like his personal jet..

CN:

Yep.

JH:

.. so sometimes ii changes.

CN:

Yeah, he uses a company ..

JH:

Yeah.
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Statement Judith Glory Hill, DOB:

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notice there are making about judith and not about kirk johnson

80tomato said:

ya, it definitely don't sound to me like he wanted to live if he took the same thing he took the week before. Prince was a very intelligent guy, no matter how hooked he was, i couldn't see it just totally taking away his own unique self-reflection, honesty and heart, just can't see it. I still think suicide is a very real conclusion. At any rate, the investigation have given us enough to run around in circles for at least another 2 years. good job fuckers.

camilleisfunky said:

Weird as it sounds, I found a little bit of comfort in Andrew's transcript...he was asked to describe the elevator scene and he said P looked like he laid down to rest or to sleep...like, he didn't fall down or anything like that...

And it looks that his past few weeks were really challenging, but at the end of the road - he was in no more pain...

The police seems to think that he took the same pills on the plane, and I said this before, did he take the same pill on purpose on the 21st? I don't know, but if you have a near death experience you try to be more careful, unless you don't want to...I don't know...And when you put this theory in the context of Judith's declaration (he told her he accomplished everything, he said that without pills he can't perform...) it makes some sense that he took the last pill knowing it'd be the last one...

It's true that he walked into Dr S's office looking confident, no limp, so I guess one side of him wanted to fight through it, but his other side, the famous side, vetoed against it. Him taking the Recovery Walls road meant that he would no longer be the Prince everyone knew, maybe he felt some shame, I don't know, but he was definitely in a bad place before he passed. I sincerly hope this was the case only for a few months. I hope he was happy most of the time.

Nobody from what I can see tells the whole truth...Kirk hiding about the prescriptions, Meron was at PP until 11.30 pm or so on the 20th but she doesn't say how Prince was doing that night. She left probably as she says, he was alone after midnight and probably took the pill same as he did on the airplane, 1am-ish and that was the end of it...

That's just me rambling on, hurting obviously...

Question - it was stated on the org that he told his crew to remove their belongings from PP, is this in the investigation files anywhere? or is it hearsay?

And wtf is Tyka doing??? she makes it seems as if he was terminally ill with her 2 yr statements, yet it's clear he only suffered of mild anemia...speak up or forever hold your breath...fuck

jackson35 said:

206Michelle said:

Strive said:

Crazy to think that Prince could play the best shows of his career, comprehend that fact and still arrive at the conclusion of 'it's so boring, incredibly boring' Same with him starting to perk up after the second show. Was he excited because he knew he reached the mountaintop or was he excited it was over and he could take some pills go home?

He loved performing, but then, once the performance was done, it was like back to reality. He could escape reality for a bit while he was on stage. . I think he was having an existential crisis. This activity, making music, that was everything to him, had become difficult for him physically because of the pain in his joints and hands. He had friends and colleagues, but there was a revolving door of these friends and colleagues. His family members appear to have been distant. I don’t know if he was still attending Kingdom Hall every Sunday with Larry, but my impression is that he had drifted away from his JW faith somewhat or was less devout than he had been 10 to 15 years earlier. He talked with people via phone, e.g. Tamron Hall, but talking on the phone is not the same as having someone physically present. Other than his doves, did he have any pets? . Imagine how he must have felt. He had his home, PP, that is a shrine to his entire career. It’s beautifully decorated. It was home. But then, he had no family with whom to share his life or his accomplishments. He was a very nurturing person. He mentored so many people, particularly women. But ultimately, they would spread their wings and explore other pastures. He stayed in touch with many of these people: Wendy, Lisa, Damaris Lewis, Shelby J., Janelle Monae. But these people all had their own lives as well. . Music was his life and he didn’t know how to retire from it. What was he going to do in its place? He had no wife or children or grandchildren. As I understand, he was looking forward to being Uncle Prince to Josh and Hannah Welton’s new baby upon the baby’s birth. He was writing his memoir. So he still had things and people for which/whom to live, but I suspect that thins people and things could not take the place of making music. . As far as I know, the only significant break he ever took from making music during his adult life was when Amiir was alive. Mayte wrote in her book that he was in total papa bear mode and was a loving husband while Amiir was alive. He spent 6 days at the hospital and went home 1 time to take a shower while Amiir was alive. He spent some days grieving Amiir’s death, but it was not clear in Mayte’s book how many days that was. . It’s unknown how he felt, later in life, about his dream of fatherhood that ended up being short-lived. But, to my knowledge, fatherhood is the only situation that gave him a level of purpose on par with the purpose that music gave him. Fatherhood is the only reason he ever stopped making music during his adult life. He talked about how wonderful fatherhood or expectant fatherhood was in numerous interviews, e.g., Oprah in 1996. So, again, I don’t know how he felt about fatherhood at the end of his life. Was he content with not having any living children or did he still yearn for it? I don’t know. But from what Judith says in the interview, he was feeling depressed and he expressed that he was having difficulty performing music and also that he felt he didn’t have much else to do with his life. I think he didn’t know what to do with himself if he couldn’t make music.

i wonder what made it so hard for him to concieve a child? He had enough women.

Strawberrylova123 said:

PeteSilas said:

well stop drinking them, i used to drink back to back triple americanos, i had a freak out and i stopped doing that, still drink coffee just not that much.

I haven't drank an energy drink in years...

i didn't like how they made my face hot, i get that when i overdue coffee too.

206Michelle said:

Was he content with not having any living children or did he still yearn for it? I don’t know. But from what Judith says in the interview, he was feeling depressed and he expressed that he was having difficulty performing music and also that he felt he didn’t have much else to do with his life. I think he didn’t know what to do with himself if he couldn’t make music.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

2004Fan said:

I'm sure there will be something in the Carver County Investigation files that will explain the powder.

whatever it is it was Wet when it was dropped or thrown down. it splattered and left trails indicating it was at a medium velocity and wet. At first, I thought it might be vomit...

i thought it may have been a regurgitation of pills.

When they asked Judith if he was suicidal she said she was "fifty fifty" about that.....

The descripton of him in the elevator certainly sounds like he took the pill(s) and deliberately laid down to go ... In a place he had previously referred to in song. I think his leaving was intentional. But we don't know the whole story. Release of the autopsy report would help end the speculation, but that won't happen. Release pictures of his body? Sure - it's within the law. Release medical information - not for another 28 years per the law. That's just ridiculous. Taxpayer funds paid for the autopsy and associated activities - it should be public record.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

When they asked Judith if he was suicidal she said she was "fifty fifty" about that.....

hmmmm. she sounds more honest than most of the people around him.

PeteSilas said:

1Sasha said:

The descripton of him in the elevator certainly sounds like he took the pill(s) and deliberately laid down to go ... In a place he had previously referred to in song. I think his leaving was intentional. But we don't know the whole story. Release of the autopsy report would help end the speculation, but that won't happen. Release pictures of his body? Sure - it's within the law. Release medical information - not for another 28 years per the law. That's just ridiculous. Taxpayer funds paid for the autopsy and associated activities - it should be public record.

yup, we'll be going on about that for awhile, as i've been saying, the non-fans see more clearly than we do when it comes to that. I can't tell you how many posts from non-fans where they say "it looks like he just tried it once, failed, did it again and succeeded", it's us who overanalyze.

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