But if everyone is just as likely to be lying as telling the truth (even people who could suffer legal consequences for lying), if conspiracies are rampant and you don't believe a word out of anyone's mouth, then how can we conclude anything about prince's death -- or about anything, for that matter? I mean, by this theory, do even believe that he's dead, or are the reports/documents of his death just as likely false as real? - At some point there must be a reason that allows you to conclude that something is true, and something else is false...
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what i'm doing is trying to be patient, it's hard as hell but i'm trying. It took over twenty years for bruce's doctors to break confidentiality as far as i'm aware. so,,,,,wait and wait. the guy was my musical leader so as his musical disciple i have to be abiding and true and patient. I can handle whatever the truth is but i'm not fucking stupid.
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PeteSilas said: what i'm doing is trying to be patient, it's hard as hell but i'm trying. It took over twenty years for bruce's doctors to break confidentiality as far as i'm aware. so,,,,,wait and wait. the guy was my musical leader so as his musical disciple i have to be abiding and true and patient. I can handle whatever the truth is but i'm not fucking stupid.
But what would be the purpose of lying though? And the way the media works a suicide story would catch more headlines and publicity than a accidental O.D | |
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the media hasn't made much out of it, maybe it just isn't that newsworthy. Enquirer tried to get mileage out of the aids angle, I think a few mags tried to sell the suicide angle but none of it really lasted that long. I think it's going to kinda be up to us to figure things out, by "us" i mean the fans. the family can't be relied on, I don't think we're getting the truth. I also mentioned before, how Elvis' fans raised holy hell over how they tried to pass of his death as just a "heart attack" they knew the shit was rotten, and although the cause of death very well may have been a heart attack, they didn't stop pushing until they had the info we have today. Elvis' autopsy results are still sealed but I think it's safe to say we know enough to say that his lifestyle, his diet, his pill popping all cut his life short. no pills/cholesterol, no heart attack so thus, most people blame the pills, as it should be. Problem with Prince fans is we don't got that kind of love, no we don't, i do but most of us don't so we just don't have that level of outrage. I'm still pissed, baffled, confused. | |
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SO FUCKING TRUE. If the 'fams' were marching at PP every damn week instead of buying Love Symbol T-shirts we would know MUCH more than we know now. AND, if the heirs were also truly in the dark, THEY could have spearheaded efforts for an on-going public outcry. Either they know exactly how/why he died and don't give a damn about the rampant speculation...or they don't give a rats' ass and just want 'their' money. | |
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the media hasn't made much out of it, maybe it just isn't that newsworthy. Enquirer tried to get mileage out of the aids angle, I think a few mags tried to sell the suicide angle but none of it really lasted that long. I think it's going to kinda be up to us to figure things out, by "us" i mean the fans. the family can't be relied on, I don't think we're getting the truth. I also mentioned before, how Elvis' fans raised holy hell over how they tried to pass of his death as just a "heart attack" they knew the shit was rotten, and although the cause of death very well may have been a heart attack, they didn't stop pushing until they had the info we have today. Elvis' autopsy results are still sealed but I think it's safe to say we know enough to say that his lifestyle, his diet, his pill popping all cut his life short. no pills/cholesterol, no heart attack so thus, most people blame the pills, as it should be. Problem with Prince fans is we don't got that kind of love, no we don't, i do but most of us don't so we just don't have that level of outrage. I'm still pissed, baffled, confused. People never answer the question as to what would be the purpose for professional's to lie, chris cornell and robin Williams committed suicide but i dont see some of their fans screaming conspiracy | |
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Actually, there are some Chris Cornell fans who believe that he got murdered, if I remember correctly, they think it got somethin' to do with pizza gate . They said this because his wife believed (I don't know if she still does) that his death was an accident, that his mind was so clouded from the medics he took that he didn't really know what he was doing. Some turned it into a conspiracy theory.
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Isn't the relative lack of detail about his death a function of how he lived? He chose not to reveal many things about his life publicly. That was true throughout his career. Those in his circle who might know more probably feel they're honoring his wishes by maintaining the same stance. I don't know that "marching on PP" would force these people to spill these secrets. And the law limits what official documents can be revealed publicly. - Perhaps marching on the Minnesota state government to change the law and reveal various documents would be more effective for people who feel that the public needs to see this info?
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Actually, there are some Chris Cornell fans who believe that he got murdered, if I remember correctly, they think it got somethin' to do with pizza gate . They said this because his wife believed (I don't know if she still does) that his death was an accident, that his mind was so clouded from the medics he took that he didn't really know what he was doing. Some turned it into a conspiracy theory.
http://www.eonline.com/news/854518/chris-cornell-s-wife-vicky-believes-his-suicide-was-accidental Oh god i keep hearing about pizzagate 😓😓😓 | |
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That's what I've been thinking. I am sick of reading on FB and other places about the "Celebration" and all of the activities at PP and in Minneapolis. Where is the outrage about not knowing the truth? I believe SNJ wants money and pronto. The other three? They want it, too, but aren't being as public in their desire for cold, hard cash. All of them want to cash out and leave him behind. | |
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Which is why that woman cited the chef as the one who dosed his pinapple juice, she said that Prince watched the chef make it (because he was already suspicious of them after the blood report he got back that very day showing all sorts of metals and other nonsense in his blood according to her), unfortunately, according to what she said Prince revealed to her, the pineaple itself was dosed by the chef before it was even cut. Prince's suspicion of the chefs she said is why he left his dinner untouched that evening. (and the first thing the chef does the next day is check the fridge to see if Prince ate his diner. (he said that himself in an interview a week after abigail said the exact same thing, "did not eat his dinner")...if that is not an odd thing to do after your employer passes away, then I don't know what to say, that last meal should have been the last thing on his mind that morning. Nothing ever came of that last meal, we never heard of it obtained as evidence, not a peep. That should have been wrapped up and immediately tested, but the chef probably disposed of it immediately. With the release of the new report, and it showing the stomach as the first point of entry (levels high enough to kill 4000 people his size), her statements of those complicit are that much closer to being verified.
Peace and love all, we are all in a different place, so I get some of the resistence, at the same time though, we are all in this together, try to keep your minds open....Prince would be proud.
[Edited 4/1/18 14:02pm] "You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013 | |
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there are almost always conspiracies, cornell, lennon,kennedy, cobain mj, almost always. the only times i can think of that their aren't is when people die who aren't a threat to anyone anymore, ali died, i think it's safe to say there was no conspiracy, however, there were and are conspiracists who believe he was poisoned to neutralize him when he was younger and leave him to damaged to lead after boxing. crazy but some people think that. also, oftentimes, close family do have a hard time with things so they see shit when they shouldn't, Paul Robeson's son insists that Robeson was poisoned in cuba and it made him attempt a suicide, no evidence of it, and robeson was pushing 60 at that point so why kill an old man? | |
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Which is why that woman cited the chef as the one who dosed his pinapple juice, she said that Prince watched the chef make it (because he was already suspicious of them after the blood report he got back that very day showing all sorts of metals and other nonsense in his blood according to her), unfortunately, according to what she said Prince revealed to her, the pineaple itself was dosed by the chef before it was even cut. Prince's suspicion of the chefs she said is why he left his dinner untouched that evening. (and the first thing the chef does the next day is check the fridge to see if Prince ate his diner. (he said that himself in an interview a week after abigail said the exact same thing, "did not eat his dinner")...if that is not an odd thing to do after your employer passes away, then I don't know what to say, that last meal should have been the last thing on his mind that morning. Nothing ever came of that last meal, we never heard of it obtained as evidence, not a peep. That should have been wrapped up and immediately tested, but the chef probably disposed of it immediately. With the release of the new report, and it showing the stomach as the first point of entry (levels high enough to kill 4000 people his size), her statements of those complicit are that much closer to being verified.
Peace and love all, we are all in a different place, so I get some of the resistence, at the same time though, we are all in this together, try to keep your minds open....Prince would be proud.
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Which is why that woman cited the chef as the one who dosed his pinapple juice, she said that Prince watched the chef make it (because he was already suspicious of them after the blood report he got back that very day showing all sorts of metals and other nonsense in his blood according to her), unfortunately, according to what she said Prince revealed to her, the pineaple itself was dosed by the chef before it was even cut. Prince's suspicion of the chefs she said is why he left his dinner untouched that evening. (and the first thing the chef does the next day is check the fridge to see if Prince ate his diner. (he said that himself in an interview a week after abigail said the exact same thing, "did not eat his dinner")...if that is not an odd thing to do after your employer passes away, then I don't know what to say, that last meal should have been the last thing on his mind that morning. Nothing ever came of that last meal, we never heard of it obtained as evidence, not a peep. That should have been wrapped up and immediately tested, but the chef probably disposed of it immediately. With the release of the new report, and it showing the stomach as the first point of entry (levels high enough to kill 4000 people his size), her statements of those complicit are that much closer to being verified. Now say what you will, but she said all of this, and much more, 2-3 days after Prince passed, she has been correct about so much before anyone could have known a darn thing, indredibly specific things. With this new autopsy release, it only drives home harder that this woman should be taken seriously. After all, Prince was a POWERFUL spirit, he was otherwordly, he could tap into things us mere mortals are too shut down to even attempt, he lifted the spirit of anyone he came in contact with, disarmed even the coolest of cats, as if divinity itself was in their presence. Is it really that hard to believe that Prince came to this woman after passing and revealed this to her? She is not trying to become famous, she has no skin in the game, she has everything to lose from coming out with this stuff because people are automatically in attack mode when they hear stuff like this, but clearly she was the one Prince picked. If that sounds like an impossibility, well, then an afterlife in general would have to off the table as well, how is that any less far fetched? Her statements are channeled from Prince himself according to her, they keep getting validated over and over again, THAT is what caught my attention, if nothing lined up in her statements, I would have categorized her a long time ago with all the other cooks trying to make a buck off peoples emotions. Her accuracy and actions prove otherwise. When all of this is over, and the thieves in the temple are brought to justice, and her statements are yet again validated to conclusion, perhaps then some of you folks will approach things with more of an open mind with the realization that THIS was the truth and should have been the focus all along, and not the nonsense that the mainstream media with vested interests, alterier motives, and dark agendas wants you to believe is the truth. They sure did a great job too as everyone debates the lies that are spoon fed to them, keeping them occupied and away from the real truth. (whatever that might turn out to be) Peace and love all, we are all in a different place, so I get some of the resistence, at the same time though, we are all in this together, try to keep your minds open....Prince would be proud.[Edited 4/1/18 14:02pm] Help me understand why Prince, a man who despised swearing so much that he would make others pay a fee for doing so around him, would choose this foul mouthed woman to represent him. Additionally, by all appearances, Prince promoted peace. Abigail is going out of her way to stir up controversy and incite anger as it relates to Prince and his death. She is the very antithesis to everything that Prince was. When has the chef been on the LE's radar? Never, to my knowledge. Seems as though this should have been wrapped up two years ago based on Abigail's "inside info", no? Frankly, nothing has been verified by Abigail. Not one single claim. "Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann | |
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The media is not getting involved because they are corrupt. Let me break it down for you. Prince was fighting with the industry mafia Warner Brothers Records for years and wrote Slave on his face, told other artists not to sign contracts and stay independent, talked about chem trails, and gave us other knowledge that the powers that be don’t want us to know. Basically he had a big target on his back and he was getting death threats which the so called media left out. Prince beat them and they didn’t like that because the Industry wants to own the artists to profit from them forever. Time warner owns TMZ, CNN, Warner Brothers Records and more. Wow, are you with me now. Wake up people, you know damn well Prince did not die of any accidental overdose. Planted Pills at Paisley Park, fake intervention doctor, cameras tampered with at Paisley Park and the real kicker is his chefs who prepared Prince’s food validated what Abigail Noel said. She said Prince did not know why he was sick for 2 years. He had all the signs and symptoms of arsenic poisoning. She said Prince asked for juices because he had a hard time swallowing due to being poisoned. She also said the chefs made him a meal which Prince did not eat but he drank the pineapple drink that they dosed with the Fentanyl. She said they put it in the pineapples in liquid form by using syringes. The chefs did a interview a few days after Prince died and confirmed what Abigail said. They said they made Prince juice drinks because it was hard for him to swallow and the first thing they did when they were allowed into Paisley Park was, they checked the refrigerator to see if Prince ate his food. The man just died and all they are concerned with is did he eat and Abigail said they put that food down the garbage disposal to get rid of the evidence because his meal was poisoned. Paisley Park should have been shut down and treated like a crime scene with no one allowed in for a few weeks. That’s just some of the things Abigail said.
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Strawberrylova123 said: ThatWhiteDude said:
Actually, there are some Chris Cornell fans who believe that he got murdered, if I remember correctly, they think it got somethin' to do with pizza gate . They said this because his wife believed (I don't know if she still does) that his death was an accident, that his mind was so clouded from the medics he took that he didn't really know what he was doing. Some turned it into a conspiracy theory.
http://www.eonline.com/news/854518/chris-cornell-s-wife-vicky-believes-his-suicide-was-accidental Oh god i keep hearing about pizzagate 😓😓😓 | |
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ThatWhiteDude said: Strawberrylova123 said: Oh god i keep hearing about pizzagate 😓😓😓 | |
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Oh Sheesh, they are here. Lucky us. | |
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voph said: ThatWhiteDude said: Puh-lease tell me you are joking seriously, how paranoid do you have to be to believe that everything's a Conspiracy? Everytime I see someone like you I whisper to myself "Why the hell did Oswald ( or "they", whatever people believe m)killnedy?" People went nuts after that for sure. [Edited 4/1/18 16:35pm] | |
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Oh, the cray, cray are serious. | |
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thing is, they could have handled that shit better and a lot of those people wouldn't have shit to say. the way it is now, we'll never know. that's why the longer things go, the less stuff we'll have to work with. people's memories distort, evidence goes away or gets tainted etc.., with kennedy, i think oswald acted alone but we're never gonna know because so many people didn't know how to handle a crisis and freaked out when they should have done there goddamned jobs. | |
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Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end | |
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Yep, they should and they need to stay there. | |
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ThatWhiteDude said: voph said: The doctors are paid off or they are told if you are not down with the plan then we can also silence you. Pizzagate has to do with pedofillia in the industry by the powerful elites. What’s happening to kids is horrendous and millions of kids are going missing. Sick, nasty evil. Do your research. Chris and the other rock musician was going to expose the Industry. Puh-lease tell me you are joking seriously, how paranoid do you have to be to believe that everything's a Conspiracy? Everytime I see someone like you I whisper to myself "Why the hell did Oswald ( or "they", whatever people believe m)killnedy?" People went nuts after that for sure. [Edited 4/1/18 16:35pm] I believe in some conspiracies but not every celebrity death is a conspiracy, chris cornell committed suicide, Robin Williams committed suicide and prince died from an accidental O.D. people on here can never awnser the question as to what would be the purpose for the carver county to lie to the public and say prince actually didn't OD but was actually murdered or committed suicide what would be the purpose. | |
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I agree with all you said. | |
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What is the purpose of the Chef's trying to poison him?
If Prince was suspicious of the Chef's poisoning him why didn't he just fire them?
The reason why Prince didn't eat that last meal is because he simply wasn't hungry. He had no appetite, his throat, & stomach was bothering him. Which is why he requested smoothies.
I don't see anything wrong whatsoever with the Chef's checking to see if Prince ate that last meal. If I was his Chef I would want to know also. I mean I took the time to prepare it. Plus Prince had passed away so it would have been my natural reaction also just because. i don't see anything suspicious about that. Although I do agree it should have been tested.
I'm sorry. I just don't believe the murder/poison conspiracy. "That mountain top situation is not really what it's all cracked up 2 B when was doing the Purple Rain tour had a lot of people who knew 'll never c again @ the concerts.just screamin n places they thought they was suppose 2 scream." | |
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I always viewed the chef looking if Prince ate his food as an act of caring. Like, Prince lost weight and him not eating didn't make it better. | |
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I agree totally, it was out of kindness and regret that he couldn't help nourish him with food he prepared carefully with his own hands. If Prince suspected the chef was poisoning him, he could have eaten 'his dinner in a fancy restaurant' or ordered in food...or brought his crew in to cook for him...come on, guys, stop with the cray-cray. | |
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