LeGrinde said:

LeGrinde said:

laurarichardson said:

Why would say that? Apparently he almost killed himself ( not just sick) from drinking wine with aspirin in 96 but he is taking them in this interview.

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Isn't that is highly unlikely? Both aspirin and red wine can damage the stomach (and both togehter probably moreso), but to almost die from taking aspirin and red wine together seems improbable. What is far more likely is what Mayte said - that Prince said it was red wine and aspirin, but that it was actually something else that nearly killed him:

http://www.newindianexpre...87725.html

Garcia revealed that just after she discovered she was pregnant with their son Amiir in 1996, Prince was rushed to the hospital after suffering an overdose. She said that a security guard "found him passed out. There was vomit on the floor".

A doctor told her they had pumped his stomach and gave him charcoal treatment, but Prince insisted he merely took aspirin with red wine.

Garcia says Prince refused to discuss the incident during their marriage, saying: "I accepted his word that it would never happen again."

AsylumUtopia said:

laurarichardson said:

Why would say that? Apparently he almost killed himself ( not just sick) from drinking wine with aspirin in 96 but he is taking them in this interview.

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Isn't that is highly unlikely? Both aspirin and red wine can damage the stomach (and both togehter probably moreso), but to almost die from taking aspirin and red wine together seems improbable. What is far more likely is what Mayte said - that Prince said it was red wine and aspirin, but that it was actually something else that nearly killed him:

http://www.newindianexpre...87725.html

Garcia revealed that just after she discovered she was pregnant with their son Amiir in 1996, Prince was rushed to the hospital after suffering an overdose. She said that a security guard "found him passed out. There was vomit on the floor".

A doctor told her they had pumped his stomach and gave him charcoal treatment, but Prince insisted he merely took aspirin with red wine.

Garcia says Prince refused to discuss the incident during their marriage, saying: "I accepted his word that it would never happen again."

Lord have mercy I do not believe Mayte in the first place. I do not believe he almost died. I would think that she would know from the doctor if he almost died for certain and what he actually took.

She was his wife and this was long before HIPPA.

It is more cryptic nonsense from her. First he almost died,then she never saw him take drugs, then he had her throw something in the toilet, and then he had migraines. She was literally married to a man and having his baby and knew nothing about his health whatsoever.

I cannot take anything she or the sleze bag nannies have to say seriously.

I am more willing to take the word of numerous people who knew him to be a wine drinker back in the day and a few stories about him popping a lot of aspirin.

It is possible that he upset his stomach by mixing wine with aspirin. Unfortunaly, we will never find out from this chick because I guess she did not ever see him drink wine or some no evidence of such around him when he was found. Could not even ask the bodyguard to get things straight.

NAMOR3000 said:

Losers with nothing 2 give their life meaning except The Org ..

Someone who could mine their own business.

laurarichardson said:

A long time ago doctors use to tell people with heart problems to take an aspirin to help. Doctors no longer recommend this anymore as the antecimphenim can kill your liver.

I was under the impression that most people knew this and we know people are born with Murmur as many of us have discussed health issues that he may have just been born with like epliscy or joint problems which can be hereditary.

In fact rheumatoid arthritis can be a health conditon that can cause it to happen.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-disease/in-depth/daily-aspirin-therapy/art-20046797

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-murmurs/basics/definition/con-20028706

Dr.'s DO reccommend that you take 81mg of aspirin a day for your heart. They DON'T recommend that you take acetaminophen. Aspirin and Acetaminophen are 2 different things.

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

A long time ago doctors use to tell people with heart problems to take an aspirin to help. Doctors no longer recommend this anymore as the antecimphenim can kill your liver.

I was under the impression that most people knew this and we know people are born with Murmur as many of us have discussed health issues that he may have just been born with like epliscy or joint problems which can be hereditary.

In fact rheumatoid arthritis can be a health conditon that can cause it to happen.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-disease/in-depth/daily-aspirin-therapy/art-20046797

http://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/heart-murmurs/basics/definition/con-20028706

Dr.'s DO reccommend that you take 81mg of aspirin a day for your heart. They DON'T recommend that you take acetaminophen. Aspirin and Acetaminophen are 2 different things.

No they do not reccommend it but people do it. If Prince was taking aspirin for heart issues or even headaches and mixing them with painkillers he was on a bad road. If he threw a little wine drinking in and just not knowing what the hell he was doing spells problem.

https://healdove.com/health-care-industry/The-Dangers-of-Mixing-Aspirin-and-Tylenol

Kidney Damage From Combining Aspirin and Tylenol

Laura, nobody is talking about taking the both of them together. Dr's DO recommend taking aspirin, for you heart. Tylenol (acetaminophen) is a different drug then aspirin. Tylenol is not recomended to help heart disease.

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Dr.'s DO reccommend that you take 81mg of aspirin a day for your heart. They DON'T recommend that you take acetaminophen. Aspirin and Acetaminophen are 2 different things.

No they do not reccommend it but people do it. If Prince was taking aspirin for heart issues or even headaches and mixing them with painkillers he was on a bad road. If he threw a little wine drinking in and just not knowing what the hell he was doing spells problem.

https://healdove.com/health-care-industry/The-Dangers-of-Mixing-Aspirin-and-Tylenol

Kidney Damage From Combining Aspirin and Tylenol

We have all reached for the aspirin after a night of drinking or when we have a bad headache. It happens to be the number one over-the-counter drug of choice for university and college students, not to mention being touted as a life-saver for anyone with heart problems. However, longterm mixing of acetaminophen (the ingredient in Tylenol) and aspirin can result in renal (kidney) damage. It will not happen if you mix them once or twice, but mixing repeatedly over a long period of time is dangerous.

Tylenol causes the formation of free oxide radicals which damage tissues, especially in the kidneys and liver. This is not a normal reaction to low doses of Tylenol, with but habitual use, especially at a higher dose, can begin damaging the innermost part of the kidney.

The kidneys perform two important functions: filtering waste from our internal fluids and producing hormones that help other organs to function. With repeated exposure to acetaminophen, the kidneys' structural units, the nephron limbs, thicken. This causes the kidneys to slowly lose their filtering capacity.

The chief function of the nephrons is to regulate the concentration of water and sodium salts by filtering our blood, reabsorbing what is needed and disposing the rest as urine. There are 800,000 to 1.5 million nephrons in each of our kidneys. Together they eliminate waste, regulate our blood volume and blood pressure, control our levels of electrolytes and metabolites, and regulate the PH balance of blood. Our kidneys are vital organs.

Are you clutching your blankets in fear? Don't worry. This damage is caused by long-term mixing of aspirin and acetaminophen. Do not make a habit of combining them. If you are experiencing pain that strong or debilitating, you should see your doctor. They can prescribe a medication strong enough to manage your pain.

But people do take both. Why do you think they are warning you not to do so? Do you not recall what this topic was about in the first place? Do you think everyone knows the difference between Tylenol and aspirin? A lot of people really do grab whatever pain reliver they can get their hands on if they are in pain.

We know from Dr. Fink he took aspirin and we now know he was taking pain pills. What if he was mixing them up over the years?

PennyPurple said:

Laura, nobody is talking about taking the both of them together. Dr's DO recommend taking aspirin, for you heart. Tylenol (acetaminophen) is a different drug then aspirin. Tylenol is not recomended to help heart disease.

laurarichardson said:

No they do not reccommend it but people do it. If Prince was taking aspirin for heart issues or even headaches and mixing them with painkillers he was on a bad road. If he threw a little wine drinking in and just not knowing what the hell he was doing spells problem.

https://healdove.com/health-care-industry/The-Dangers-of-Mixing-Aspirin-and-Tylenol

Kidney Damage From Combining Aspirin and Tylenol

We have all reached for the aspirin after a night of drinking or when we have a bad headache. It happens to be the number one over-the-counter drug of choice for university and college students, not to mention being touted as a life-saver for anyone with heart problems. However, longterm mixing of acetaminophen (the ingredient in Tylenol) and aspirin can result in renal (kidney) damage. It will not happen if you mix them once or twice, but mixing repeatedly over a long period of time is dangerous.

Tylenol causes the formation of free oxide radicals which damage tissues, especially in the kidneys and liver. This is not a normal reaction to low doses of Tylenol, with but habitual use, especially at a higher dose, can begin damaging the innermost part of the kidney.

The kidneys perform two important functions: filtering waste from our internal fluids and producing hormones that help other organs to function. With repeated exposure to acetaminophen, the kidneys' structural units, the nephron limbs, thicken. This causes the kidneys to slowly lose their filtering capacity.

The chief function of the nephrons is to regulate the concentration of water and sodium salts by filtering our blood, reabsorbing what is needed and disposing the rest as urine. There are 800,000 to 1.5 million nephrons in each of our kidneys. Together they eliminate waste, regulate our blood volume and blood pressure, control our levels of electrolytes and metabolites, and regulate the PH balance of blood. Our kidneys are vital organs.

Are you clutching your blankets in fear? Don't worry. This damage is caused by long-term mixing of aspirin and acetaminophen. Do not make a habit of combining them. If you are experiencing pain that strong or debilitating, you should see your doctor. They can prescribe a medication strong enough to manage your pain.

[Edited 8/29/17 12:25pm]

Doozer said:

It's The Mirror, with a story consisting of paragraphs comprised of no more than two sentences, with a quote from the National Enquirer. [Edited 8/27/17 9:12am]

This is not a reliable source.

purplethunder3121 said:

Doozer said:

It's The Mirror, with a story consisting of paragraphs comprised of no more than two sentences, with a quote from the National Enquirer. [Edited 8/27/17 9:12am]

This is not a reliable source.

Acutually this story is also in the International Business Times. Don't you think if this was not a real quote that Matt would have said so by this time. Dez Dickenson made CNN remove a comment he said he did not make.

Sorry but you cannot just pick and choose the information according to what you want to believe.

http://www.ibtimes.com/pr...rs-2358001

Actually, that IBT article was just quoting one from Radar Online, dated the day Prince died, when Fink -- and no one -- knew what killed Prince, and everyone was just wondering. We all learned later the sad truth that massive opioid OD was the cause, not a congenital heart condition.

laurarichardson said:

purplethunder3121 said:

This is not a reliable source.

Acutually this story is also in the International Business Times. Don't you think if this was not a real quote that Matt would have said so by this time. Dez Dickenson made CNN remove a comment he said he did not make.

Sorry but you cannot just pick and choose the information according to what you want to believe.

http://www.ibtimes.com/pr...rs-2358001

disch said:

disch said:

purplefam99 said:

Laura, your tired insults ("reading comprehension," yada yada) are uncalled for, and I don't engage with people who aren't able to participate in cordial, adult conversation. Carry on...

laurarichardson said:

disch said:

Actually, that IBT article was just quoting one from Radar Online, dated the day Prince died, when Fink -- and no one -- knew what killed Prince, and everyone was just wondering. We all learned later the sad truth that massive opioid OD was the cause, not a congenital heart condition.

Sadly someone has reading comprehension problems because no one said Prince did not die of an Opioid poisoning. We are discussing what Dr. Fink said before he knew anything about what happened and I think if some of you can believe TMZ you can believe Dr. Fink. If someone takes bootlegged drugs why would that not mix up over the counter med to help their heart?

You are free not to engage because you are trolling. At no time did anyone say he died from something else other then pain pills. I bet you cannot stand the fact that Prince is not the poster boy for the pain pill epidemic perhaps because anyone with a lick of sense can see that his problems with pills may have actually involved pain and not recreational use.

disch said:

Laura, your tired insults ("reading comprehension," yada yada) are uncalled for, and I don't engage with people who aren't able to participate in cordial, adult conversation. Carry on...

laurarichardson said:

disch said: Sadly someone has reading comprehension problems because no one said Prince did not die of an Opioid poisoning. We are discussing what Dr. Fink said before he knew anything about what happened and I think if some of you can believe TMZ you can believe Dr. Fink. If someone takes bootlegged drugs why would that not mix up over the counter med to help their heart?

laurarichardson said:

You are free not to engage because you are trolling. At no time did anyone say he died from something else other then pain pills. I bet you cannot stand the fact that Prince is not the poster boy for the pain pill epidemic perhaps because anyone with a lick of sense can see that his problems with pills may have actually involved pain and not recreational use.

disch said:

Laura, your tired insults ("reading comprehension," yada yada) are uncalled for, and I don't engage with people who aren't able to participate in cordial, adult conversation. Carry on...

Doesn't make a difference if his dependency was for pain or recreational use. He was dependent on them. (period). There is an opioid problem in this country as we speak. I will also say that using them for pain, and using them for shits and giggles are 2 separate issues, with the same outcome = dependency. But let's be clear. Most people who use them for pain purposes also obtain LEGAL prescriptions for them...........

lemoncrush19 said:

poppys said:

Whatever Laura, I'm out. Insist away and provide "proof". Enjoy your obsession. I'm jumping in the crush pool party. Prince may show up there in spirit, it's a lot more fun and he enjoyed fun.

welcome to the party poppy

Lemonnycrush!

laurarichardson said:

luvsexy4all said:

come on now...he wouldnt take aspirin...

Why would say that? Apparently he almost killed himself ( not just sick) from drinking wine with aspirin in 96 but he is taking them in this interview.

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http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nEnaKUy3fWgJ:www.irishtimes.com/news/calling-his-own-tune-1.195289+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

I ask him what he will be doing in 10 years. "Sinatra's a good model. I'd like to believe that I'm part of the cultural fibre now. When someone makes a joke about you, well . . . Only time tells. Time's my journalist, time's my critic." Mayte enters with a pill and a cup of tea. "Gotta take my vitamins," he says. "Actually, it's an aspirin. Too much talking gives me a headache."

The night before we meet he had jammed with George Clinton. They produced a 46-minute track, which, he says, they had then reduced to 22 minutes. The following night, we are promised a small scale performance in his rehearsal area, but a storm causes it to be cancelled. Instead we play basketball on the Paisley court and listen to a live track recorded at the previous week's jam. More than half an hour long, it is a funky, soulful wonder, a Marvin Gaye-style backing running under the constantly repeated refrain "The revolution will not be colourised".

As the black kid from one of the whitest states in the US who made his name playing funked-up rock in a multi-racial band, grows older, his music grows blacker.

[Edited 8/28/17 13:01pm]

[Edited 8/28/17 13:02pm]

i was addressing people who insist he never took anything legal or illegal

Strawberrylova123 said:

I don't know if P had a heart problems or not but why the reaction?? Just ignore the thread..that simple.

Because some people are stuck on him being a recreational drug user and want him to be the poster boy for pain pill abuse as if he did nothing else in his entire life. It is not working out that way so now they have a bee in their bonnet.

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

You are free not to engage because you are trolling. At no time did anyone say he died from something else other then pain pills. I bet you cannot stand the fact that Prince is not the poster boy for the pain pill epidemic perhaps because anyone with a lick of sense can see that his problems with pills may have actually involved pain and not recreational use.

Doesn't make a difference if his dependency was for pain or recreational use. He was dependent on them. (period). There is an opioid problem in this country as we speak. I will also say that using them for pain, and using them for shits and giggles are 2 separate issues, with the same outcome = dependency. But let's be clear. Most people who use them for pain purposes also obtain LEGAL prescriptions for them...........

How do you know that Prince never had a an RX for pain meds? If Dr. S was writing Rx for him that were not controlled substances under an assumed name for privacy reasons why would Prince not have done this in the past.

We know he had surgery for something in 2010. If you have surgery you are given pain pills. We know from Scott Baldwin his engineer he had a lot of pain doing the Musicology Tour. We know from Mikki White that he had to cancel a string of shows in 1998 due to some damage to his leg. She actually mentions in her book that when she saw him next he had a cane.

He had medical issues to what extent we do not know but what would be your solution for someone who is in pain and still has to work. You realize how powerful these meds are and that some doctors are recommending that they not be given to people for long periods of time.

It is real easy to be on the other side of the fence passing judgements on people when we are not in their shoes. None of us are promised perfect health. I hope you are not blaming him for his joint problems as if he wanted to have them.

luvsexy4all said:

laurarichardson said:

Why would say that? Apparently he almost killed himself ( not just sick) from drinking wine with aspirin in 96 but he is taking them in this interview.

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http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:nEnaKUy3fWgJ:www.irishtimes.com/news/calling-his-own-tune-1.195289+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

I ask him what he will be doing in 10 years. "Sinatra's a good model. I'd like to believe that I'm part of the cultural fibre now. When someone makes a joke about you, well . . . Only time tells. Time's my journalist, time's my critic." Mayte enters with a pill and a cup of tea. "Gotta take my vitamins," he says. "Actually, it's an aspirin. Too much talking gives me a headache."

The night before we meet he had jammed with George Clinton. They produced a 46-minute track, which, he says, they had then reduced to 22 minutes. The following night, we are promised a small scale performance in his rehearsal area, but a storm causes it to be cancelled. Instead we play basketball on the Paisley court and listen to a live track recorded at the previous week's jam. More than half an hour long, it is a funky, soulful wonder, a Marvin Gaye-style backing running under the constantly repeated refrain "The revolution will not be colourised".

As the black kid from one of the whitest states in the US who made his name playing funked-up rock in a multi-racial band, grows older, his music grows blacker.

[Edited 8/28/17 13:01pm]

[Edited 8/28/17 13:02pm]

i was addressing people who insist he never took anything legal or illegal

He had surgery in 2009 so he was prescribed something. If had migrane headaches he had to take something as well.

He probably had surgery for a heart murmur.

What are you talking about? He seen Dr. S 2 times. Dr. S wrote a script out in Kirk's name.

Don't twist my words. You have a bad habit of that.

Opioids are so dangerous that most regular Dr.s don't prescribe them anymore.

I know exactly what is on the other side of that fence, as I've said before. My husband suffers from chronic pain, and he was on those high doses of meds. It took him years to be weaned off. My husband had legal scripts for them. Prince resorted to street drugs. BIG difference.

Duh...most people who have surgery are given pain pills....but you are the one who was screaming about Mayte being sent home with pain pills after her surgery....talk about passing judgement on people...YOU do that all the time.

Facts as we know them, is Prince took illegal street drugs that was loaded with enough fentanyl to kill 5 Elephants.

How do YOU know that he HAD legal scripts for pain meds? YOU don't. Like I said, it doesn't make a difference why the man was taking them, it's the same outcome = dependency.

I'm blaming P for his joint problems now? ....You seriously have a problem with twisting everyones comments. Please get help.

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Doesn't make a difference if his dependency was for pain or recreational use. He was dependent on them. (period). There is an opioid problem in this country as we speak. I will also say that using them for pain, and using them for shits and giggles are 2 separate issues, with the same outcome = dependency. But let's be clear. Most people who use them for pain purposes also obtain LEGAL prescriptions for them...........

How do you know that Prince never had a an RX for pain meds? If Dr. S was writing Rx for him that were not controlled substances under an assumed name for privacy reasons why would Prince not have done this in the past.

We know he had surgery for something in 2010. If you have surgery you are given pain pills. We know from Scott Baldwin his engineer he had a lot of pain doing the Musicology Tour. We know from Mikki White that he had to cancel a string of shows in 1998 due to some damage to his leg. She actually mentions in her book that when she saw him next he had a cane.

He had medical issues to what extent we do not know but what would be your solution for someone who is in pain and still has to work. You realize how powerful these meds are and that some doctors are recommending that they not be given to people for long periods of time.

It is real easy to be on the other side of the fence passing judgements on people when we are not in their shoes. None of us are promised perfect health. I hope you are not blaming him for his joint problems as if he wanted to have them.

poppys said: