paisleypark4 said:

bluegangsta said:

I am I been on here for 15 years and 4 months.

Anyway, All i did was point out several errors throughout Prince's career and it made you feel some type of way, its not my problem. my issue was with you saying you don't know WHY WE WOULD SUPPORT THIS RELEASE?

I get that hearing Prince music in any capacity is great (Hello?! Bootleg collector here?!), but fuck - why support stuff like this when you'll continue to get products that aren't what they could be? Why give a dog a treat for rolling over, when all they've done is sit there and lick their balls?

S'Excuse me?

Pointing out errors is one thing but your reaching telling fans what they should do with their money, baby bye with that.

Nowhere did I tell anyone how to spend their money. Yet another misinterpretation on your part.

lastdecember said:

You do realize that WB has no master copies of the unreleased stuff right?? What he gave them is what we are getting and in some cases it is what you heard on bootlegs

couldnt the estate step in and force WB to work together to get the pp vault masters ???

bluegangsta said:

paisleypark4 said:

Nowhere did I tell anyone how to spend their money. Yet another misinterpretation on your part.

Don't try to play games. Supporting the release is verbally and financially applicable. So why should we NOT support this? A couple of small errors? That may be fine for you to not keep supporting NPG / Warner releases but dont get on your soapbox with your wav screenshots talking about you dont know why we would support this. You were doing just fine until you said that and you had to get read real quick.

paisleypark4 said:

bluegangsta said:

Nowhere did I tell anyone how to spend their money. Yet another misinterpretation on your part.

Don't try to play games. Supporting the release is verbally and financially applicable. So why should we NOT support this? A couple of small errors? That may be fine for you to not keep supporting NPG / Warner releases but dont get on your soapbox with your wav screenshots talking about you dont know why we would support this. You were doing just fine until you said that and you had to get read real quick.

When there were talks in 2004 between WB and Prince about remastering his catalogue, I always thought we would get only what is now the 3rd disc, as the only bonus disc. That is to say, extented B-faces, and longer versions of album's songs.

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Maybe with 1 or 2 unreleased songs, but that's all. And a dvd with the music video.

A special edition with The same treatment applied to the whole catalogue would have been a real treat to me, at the time. And still now, I really want this to happen fast, even without unreleased tracks.

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Of course, WB really screwed up this release. Of course this could have been way better. Of course there are dicks in marketing strategy.

But this is the kind of treatment we will get, and nothing else. This was supposed to be way bigger, with a huge promotion campaign, but the estate prevented WB to release the 1st avenue live, which is frankly where all the hype is in this project.

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Personnally, I regret there aren't liner notes for the B-faces and unreleased tracks.

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But if even the fans are not buying it, this is over. WB will pass on. Despite my numerous complaints about this release, we have a whole disc full of unreleased tracks. This is already way better in term of lenght than 8 years of MJ posthumous release, in only one disc.

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Without the hope and certainty about new releases, what would be the point of the org ? And to ensure that, every fans should be buying this, if not for them, for the common good of this community.

Amen.

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I also do not like the DVD being with the booklet for scratch purposes. I put it in a blank DVD case for that reason as the booklet is pretty big. I really like the notes and thoughts from the band and engineer. Very worth it. Pictures schmictures, its the story of the album that really matters. The Paisley Park Remaster was mostly good. I agree with the end of Let's Go Crazy being a little high and full of treble, however the rest is pretty damn good especially Darling Nikki, Beautiful Ones and I Would Die 4 U. Those tracks BUMP now. Same with Wonderful Ass and We Can Fuck. Those two are the best sounding on the second disc.

I only seen a clip of the DVD havent watched it yet, but it looks a little muddy? I was watching it on my laptop and not on screen so we will see. Thank god I have the VHS for comparison later.

Does anyone know if the iTunes version came with a digital booklet? If so, that's a PDF that maybe can get shared.

Se7en said:

Does anyone know if the iTunes version came with a digital booklet? If so, that's a PDF that maybe can get shared.

Unfortunately no

Se7en said:

Does anyone know if the iTunes version came with a digital booklet? If so, that's a PDF that maybe can get shared.

Can't you just spend 25 dollars to buy it ?

Se7en said:

Does anyone know if the iTunes version came with a digital booklet? If so, that's a PDF that maybe can get shared.

Meanwhile, even some kind soul's smartphone shots will do.

josh is a hack

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After waiting years and years like all of you for the remaster, and after reading all of the comments and wav screenshots etc, and listening to the album on Apple Music, and hoping the vinyl version would be better, it's a sad day to conclude that I'm not going to buy the album on any format.

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One thing that strikes me about the remaster that Superconducted has noted, is that there still is no bass. I kinda hoped things like I Would Die For You, would have a rich bottom end, but it still doesn't. I imagine this is actually down to the mixing on the original. In which case there never will be bass.

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Prince said himself as mentioned on the P&B Podcast, that his albums in the 80s have no bass, and they don't (aside from the songs that literally don't have any bass - .e.g. Kiss, Doves etc).

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tbokris said:

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After waiting years and years like all of you for the remaster, and after reading all of the comments and wav screenshots etc, and listening to the album on Apple Music, and hoping the vinyl version would be better, it's a sad day to conclude that I'm not going to buy the album on any format.

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One thing that strikes me about the remaster that Superconducted has noted, is that there still is no bass. I kinda hoped things like I Would Die For You, would have a rich bottom end, but it still doesn't. I imagine this is actually down to the mixing on the original. In which case there never will be bass.

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Prince said himself as mentioned on the P&B Podcast, that his albums in the 80s have no bass, and they don't (aside from the songs that literally don't have any bass - .e.g. Kiss, Doves etc).

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OK, so you're deaf and he was kinda deaf by then, what's new?
Whaddaya think the moon earring was for?
Try to live a life constantly with 90dB levels — not to mention the 130 dB that Lisa mentions on the openings of the PR tour: the whole crowd screams in your direction.

I spent the eighties with a pair of JBL Decade L26, attached to a '76 Pioneer amp (when it was still a company of japanese audio craftsmen), and all my P's polyvinyl acetates (PowaSoul) were from WEA Germany, all done by Bernie Grundam Mastering.

I am very sorry to inform you that not only the bass is there, but it bears the biggest, thickest, gigantic, pristine and full kick drums and bass slaps ever put to record in the eighties (before Chicago learnt from 1999's Prince and went full house).

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tbokris said:

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After waiting years and years like all of you for the remaster, and after reading all of the comments and wav screenshots etc, and listening to the album on Apple Music, and hoping the vinyl version would be better, it's a sad day to conclude that I'm not going to buy the album on any format.

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One thing that strikes me about the remaster that Superconducted has noted, is that there still is no bass. I kinda hoped things like I Would Die For You, would have a rich bottom end, but it still doesn't. I imagine this is actually down to the mixing on the original. In which case there never will be bass.

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Prince said himself as mentioned on the P&B Podcast, that his albums in the 80s have no bass, and they don't (aside from the songs that literally don't have any bass - .e.g. Kiss, Doves etc).

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I think your equipment might be shot. All of the 80s albums, especially the vinyl remasters from a few years ago, have really deep and rich bass. You can especially hear it on the kick drums on Parade with its lack of reverb. Anotherlover has a fantastic bass groove to it.

tbokris said:

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After waiting years and years like all of you for the remaster, and after reading all of the comments and wav screenshots etc, and listening to the album on Apple Music, and hoping the vinyl version would be better, it's a sad day to conclude that I'm not going to buy the album on any format.

.

One thing that strikes me about the remaster that Superconducted has noted, is that there still is no bass. I kinda hoped things like I Would Die For You, would have a rich bottom end, but it still doesn't. I imagine this is actually down to the mixing on the original. In which case there never will be bass.

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Prince said himself as mentioned on the P&B Podcast, that his albums in the 80s have no bass, and they don't (aside from the songs that literally don't have any bass - .e.g. Kiss, Doves etc).

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People like you will be responsible for the lack of release if PR deluxe doesn't sell.

This release is maybe full of shortcomings, we are all disappointed. But hell, the second disc can't be worst than what was released the ten last years : AOA, HNR, Planet Earth, etc. For the price, it's easily the best deal since 3121.

RODSERLING said:

tbokris said:

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After waiting years and years like all of you for the remaster, and after reading all of the comments and wav screenshots etc, and listening to the album on Apple Music, and hoping the vinyl version would be better, it's a sad day to conclude that I'm not going to buy the album on any format.

.

One thing that strikes me about the remaster that Superconducted has noted, is that there still is no bass. I kinda hoped things like I Would Die For You, would have a rich bottom end, but it still doesn't. I imagine this is actually down to the mixing on the original. In which case there never will be bass.

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Prince said himself as mentioned on the P&B Podcast, that his albums in the 80s have no bass, and they don't (aside from the songs that literally don't have any bass - .e.g. Kiss, Doves etc).

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People like you will be responsible for the lack of release if PR deluxe doesn't sell.

This release is maybe full of shortcomings, we are all disappointed. But hell, the second disc can't be worst than what was released the ten last years : AOA, HNR, Planet Earth, etc. For the price, it's easily the best deal since 3121.

do u really think WB will NOT release more even if this doesnt sell well?? they r greedy gangsters dont forget

luvsexy4all said:

RODSERLING said:

People like you will be responsible for the lack of release if PR deluxe doesn't sell.

This release is maybe full of shortcomings, we are all disappointed. But hell, the second disc can't be worst than what was released the ten last years : AOA, HNR, Planet Earth, etc. For the price, it's easily the best deal since 3121.

do u really think WB will NOT release more even if this doesnt sell well?? they r greedy gangsters dont forget

That's a little harsh, don't you think?
Like it or not, they're the ones who are going to keep his music circulating.
Pressing this shit requires factories, bringing it to the stores requires trucks, ain't no one gonna pay for those except them.

Now the way they managed it, I think it was calculated in the basic sense : they had to come up with a price tag that would seduce casual listeners, and it's a little gloomy, but they could only release an affordable product not too far from the date of his departure.

Still, it doesn't excuse the EC glitch, or the bad artistic direction of the booklet. There are tons of good young designers on Dribble, it's not like there's a shortage of talents. As for the brickwalling, judging by the important portion of listeners who aren't bothered by it, it can mean only one thing: After more than twenty years of constant attacks, the Loudness Wars have been won, and the ear of the people lost. I think professionals know the remaster isn't great, let's say at least they respected Prince's choice of giving Josh the job. But it's not like Prince went out in search of a decent mastering company... The usual P's insular (and a little paranoid) attitude.

RODSERLING said:

Se7en said:

Does anyone know if the iTunes version came with a digital booklet? If so, that's a PDF that maybe can get shared.

Can't you just spend 25 dollars to buy it ?

I'll be picking up the physical set, but I would also still like the PDF for my iTunes.

Some people were saying the text is hard to read in the paper booklet . . . I wondered if it was easier to read on a PDF (screen-sized).

RODSERLING said:

tbokris said:

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After waiting years and years like all of you for the remaster, and after reading all of the comments and wav screenshots etc, and listening to the album on Apple Music, and hoping the vinyl version would be better, it's a sad day to conclude that I'm not going to buy the album on any format.

.

One thing that strikes me about the remaster that Superconducted has noted, is that there still is no bass. I kinda hoped things like I Would Die For You, would have a rich bottom end, but it still doesn't. I imagine this is actually down to the mixing on the original. In which case there never will be bass.

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Prince said himself as mentioned on the P&B Podcast, that his albums in the 80s have no bass, and they don't (aside from the songs that literally don't have any bass - .e.g. Kiss, Doves etc).

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People like you will be responsible for the lack of release if PR deluxe doesn't sell.

This release is maybe full of shortcomings, we are all disappointed. But hell, the second disc can't be worst than what was released the ten last years : AOA, HNR, Planet Earth, etc. For the price, it's easily the best deal since 3121.

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People like me will be responsible for the lack of future releases if PR doesn't sell, because I am chosing to not buy something cobbled together by a company that isn't taking due care to make a well considered product. I already own the VHS and the original vinyl and have Apple Music so can listen to disc 2. I don't have a CD player, and if I stop Apple Music, then i'll probably buy the digital download. And I would buy the Rhino remaster over this new remaster, and I'll wait for a new product of outtakes to be made with more care.

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WB is chosing to aim this product at a more mainstream audience, rather than at the hard-core fanbase, which is what they should be doing, a la Bob Dylan's outtake releases. By supporting WB by buying this, perhaps you're putting wind in the sails of another half-baked release.

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Se7en said:

RODSERLING said:

Can't you just spend 25 dollars to buy it ?

I'll be picking up the physical set, but I would also still like the PDF for my iTunes.

Some people were saying the text is hard to read in the paper booklet . . . I wondered if it was easier to read on a PDF (screen-sized).

tbokris said:

RODSERLING said:

People like you will be responsible for the lack of release if PR deluxe doesn't sell.

This release is maybe full of shortcomings, we are all disappointed. But hell, the second disc can't be worst than what was released the ten last years : AOA, HNR, Planet Earth, etc. For the price, it's easily the best deal since 3121.

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People like me will be responsible for the lack of future releases if PR doesn't sell, because I am chosing to not buy something cobbled together by a company that isn't taking due care to make a well considered product. I already own the VHS and the original vinyl and have Apple Music so can listen to disc 2. I don't have a CD player, and if I stop Apple Music, then i'll probably buy the digital download. And I would buy the Rhino remaster over this new remaster, and I'll wait for a new product of outtakes to be made with more care.

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WB is chosing to aim this product at a more mainstream audience, rather than at the hard-core fanbase, which is what they should be doing, a la Bob Dylan's outtake releases. By supporting WB by buying this, perhaps you're putting wind in the sails of another half-baked release.

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You're talking nonsense.

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And lol, you don't have a CD-player ?

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First and foremost, considering the fact that WB didn't promote it at all, this is absolutely not aimed to a mainstream audience.

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This is only for the hardcore Prince fans that read the forums from time to time. Otherwise, you can't be aware of it.

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If the first reedition in Prince History, long awaited of his most beloved album doesn't sell a shit, there won't be anything else. WB already had hard time to release it (or else they would have released it last year), they will need concrete and solid financial arguments to mess again with the estate to re-release other albums.

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2017 marks the 35 anniversary of 1999 and 30th of SOTT. Now would be the obvious release date for this reeditions, but as of now, as you know it, nothing more is planned at all.

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IF PR deluxe was a success, with all the fans buying it, WB will try hard to re-release 1999 and SOTT. It won't be perfect, but they can't open the vault. They have to do with what they have.

. You want to wait 2021 to by an hypothetical new reedition of PR? That's insane, the physical market is already a niche, in 2021 it will be almost dead.

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RODSERLING said:

tbokris said:

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People like me will be responsible for the lack of future releases if PR doesn't sell, because I am chosing to not buy something cobbled together by a company that isn't taking due care to make a well considered product. I already own the VHS and the original vinyl and have Apple Music so can listen to disc 2. I don't have a CD player, and if I stop Apple Music, then i'll probably buy the digital download. And I would buy the Rhino remaster over this new remaster, and I'll wait for a new product of outtakes to be made with more care.

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WB is chosing to aim this product at a more mainstream audience, rather than at the hard-core fanbase, which is what they should be doing, a la Bob Dylan's outtake releases. By supporting WB by buying this, perhaps you're putting wind in the sails of another half-baked release.

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You're talking nonsense. And lol, you don't have a CD-player ? . Fisrt and foremost, considering the fact that WB didn't promote it at all, this is absolutely not aimed to a mainstream audience. This is only for the hardcore Prince fans that read the forums from time to time. Otherwise, you can't be aware of it. . If the first reedition in Prince History, long awaited of his most beloved album doesn't sell a shit, there won't be anything else. WB already had hard time to release it (or else they would have released it last year), they will need concrete and solid financial arguments to mess again with the estate to re-release other albums. . 2017 marks the 35 anniversary of 1999 and 30th of SOTT. Now would be the obvious release date for this reeditions, but as of now, as you know it, nothing more is planned at all. . IF PR deluxe was a success, with all the fans buying it, WB will try hard to re-release 1999 and SOTT. It won't be perfect, but they can't open the vault. They have to do with what they have. . You want to wait 2021 to by an hypothetical new reedition of PR? That's insane, the physical market is already a niche, in 2021 it will be almost dead.

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I think your argument is counter intuitive. If WB can't open the vault then they shouldn't muddy the water. The original albums are still in print. Now there is a dissappointing PR release out there (by seemingly most people on this board's opinion), and that will put the estate off gambling on making a second 'better' PR release, because the sales will be considerably less. And if there were to be, in your words, 'not perfect' re-releases of 1999 and SOTT being put out by WB, then dont you think that would further recuce the incentive for the estate to release any expanded album, with his two biggest albums already out there? On the contrary, it is the estate that will need concrete and solid financial arguments in order to release albums that the fans on this board want. 'Non-Vault-track WB remasters' on the market first only help to close that door.

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Wait for Universal to get their money back from the estate, and then the estate and WB can make an agreement. Neither side can make a remastered album with vault tracks without the other. I think most people on this board wish Prince's legacy to be captured by something a little bit better than the PR Deluxe edition we've been served.

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tbokris said:

RODSERLING said:

You're talking nonsense. And lol, you don't have a CD-player ? . Fisrt and foremost, considering the fact that WB didn't promote it at all, this is absolutely not aimed to a mainstream audience. This is only for the hardcore Prince fans that read the forums from time to time. Otherwise, you can't be aware of it. . If the first reedition in Prince History, long awaited of his most beloved album doesn't sell a shit, there won't be anything else. WB already had hard time to release it (or else they would have released it last year), they will need concrete and solid financial arguments to mess again with the estate to re-release other albums. . 2017 marks the 35 anniversary of 1999 and 30th of SOTT. Now would be the obvious release date for this reeditions, but as of now, as you know it, nothing more is planned at all. . IF PR deluxe was a success, with all the fans buying it, WB will try hard to re-release 1999 and SOTT. It won't be perfect, but they can't open the vault. They have to do with what they have. . You want to wait 2021 to by an hypothetical new reedition of PR? That's insane, the physical market is already a niche, in 2021 it will be almost dead.

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Wait for Universal to get their money back from the estate, and then the estate and WB can make an agreement. Neither side can make a remastered album with vault tracks without the other. I think most people on this board wish Prince's legacy to be captured by something a little bit better than the PR Deluxe edition we've been served.

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Wait when ?

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The estate already prevented WB to release the 1st avenue in dvd/blu ray, and that was the real hype of this release. Hence, WB decided to not promote PR deluxe, because it couldn't be priced higher.

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So I think it's stupid at this point to wait for an agreement, because it won't happen before years, and we all know it.

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And even if it happens, it will take years to file all the documents contained in the vault, and especially to restore them ! And to decide what version to release, the take 1, 4, 9, 17?

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And when it will happen, the #1 album will sell less than 5.000 physical copies, as this market is reducing dramatically years after years.So, what would be the point, by then ?

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Frankly, for the price, what was released is still worthwile. It's not WB fault if avid fans downloaded illegal bootlegs, despite the fact that Prince released an average of at least one album a year ; which was more than enough to sustain any reasonnable person.

RODSERLING said:

tbokris said:

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Wait for Universal to get their money back from the estate, and then the estate and WB can make an agreement. Neither side can make a remastered album with vault tracks without the other. I think most people on this board wish Prince's legacy to be captured by something a little bit better than the PR Deluxe edition we've been served.

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Wait when ?

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The estate already prevented WB to release the 1st avenue in dvd/blu ray, and that was the real hype of this release. Hence, WB decided to not promote PR deluxe, because it couldn't be priced higher.

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So I think it's stupid at this point to wait for an agreement, because it won't happen before years, and we all know it.

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And even if it happens, it will take years to file all the documents contained in the vault, and especially to restore them ! And to decide what version to release, the take 1, 4, 9, 17?

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And when it will happen, the #1 album will sell less than 5.000 physical copies, as this market is reducing dramatically years after years.So, what would be the point, by then ?

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Frankly, for the price, what was released is still worthwile. It's not WB fault if avid fans downloaded illegal bootlegs, despite the fact that Prince released an average of at least one album a year ; which was more than enough to sustain any reasonnable person.

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Prince fans know the meaning of the word patience. It won't happen for years (plural) sure, but we've waited 2 years for PR Deluxe. What you're saying is that we should just buy whatever now because soon albums won't even exist?

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Bob Dylan released an 18-cd outtake album last year. Vinyl sales have reached a 25-year high. The Beatles have successfully released possibly the best remaster series out there. Someone needs to manage Prince's estate in a proper way and the only way is with an agreement between one side who owns the album masters, and one side who owns the vault.

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Cataloging and remastering the vault is still going to be financially beneficial, even if it just comes out as a download and a ltd edition boxset for the hardcore fans. In fact... that would probably be the best option because you cover both camps. Not PR Deluxe, which goes straight down the middle and satisfies neither.

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tbokris said:

RODSERLING said:

Wait when ?

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The estate already prevented WB to release the 1st avenue in dvd/blu ray, and that was the real hype of this release. Hence, WB decided to not promote PR deluxe, because it couldn't be priced higher.

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So I think it's stupid at this point to wait for an agreement, because it won't happen before years, and we all know it.

.

And even if it happens, it will take years to file all the documents contained in the vault, and especially to restore them ! And to decide what version to release, the take 1, 4, 9, 17?

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And when it will happen, the #1 album will sell less than 5.000 physical copies, as this market is reducing dramatically years after years.So, what would be the point, by then ?

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Frankly, for the price, what was released is still worthwile. It's not WB fault if avid fans downloaded illegal bootlegs, despite the fact that Prince released an average of at least one album a year ; which was more than enough to sustain any reasonnable person.

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Prince fans know the meaning of the word patience. It won't happen for years (plural) sure, but we've waited 2 years for PR Deluxe. What you're saying is that we should just buy whatever now because soon albums won't even exist?

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Bob Dylan released an 18-cd outtake album last year. Vinyl sales have reached a 25-year high. The Beatles have successfully released possibly the best remaster series out there. Someone needs to manage Prince's estate in a proper way and the only way is with an agreement between one side who owns the album masters, and one side who owns the vault.

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Cataloging and remastering the vault is still going to be financially beneficial, even if it just comes out as a download and a ltd edition boxset for the hardcore fans. In fact... that would probably be the best option because you cover both camps. Not PR Deluxe, which goes straight down the middle and satisfies neither.

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OK, so you want a new PR deluxe, to be released in 2024 in digital only I really hope we won't go toward that.

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Bob Dylan hadn't an army of fans determined to put his vault on line, and downloading it for 20 years. That's the difference.

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The resurgence of the vinyle is to be relativised : it's still a niche, and it's too expensive to release the 18 disc of the vault in more than 30 vinyle !

To my knowledge, the SGT pEPPERS 50th's unreleased material wasn't released on vinyle : too expensive !

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I also have hard time to understand how can you say that the musical and creative content in Peppers 50th is better than what is on PR deluxe ? I don't think Prince's fan wants to hear half of the tracks in instrumental, or only the demos of the same lenght of the track they already know.

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In short, there is nothing new in Peppers, only a precious piece of history for the fans, like me. I have also Beatles fans friends that are not impressed at all by this material, and that didn't want to spend 100 dollars to have 100 minutes of music, some of them instrumental only.

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RODSERLING said:

tbokris said:

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Prince fans know the meaning of the word patience. It won't happen for years (plural) sure, but we've waited 2 years for PR Deluxe. What you're saying is that we should just buy whatever now because soon albums won't even exist?

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Bob Dylan released an 18-cd outtake album last year. Vinyl sales have reached a 25-year high. The Beatles have successfully released possibly the best remaster series out there. Someone needs to manage Prince's estate in a proper way and the only way is with an agreement between one side who owns the album masters, and one side who owns the vault.

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Cataloging and remastering the vault is still going to be financially beneficial, even if it just comes out as a download and a ltd edition boxset for the hardcore fans. In fact... that would probably be the best option because you cover both camps. Not PR Deluxe, which goes straight down the middle and satisfies neither.

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OK, so you want a new PR deluxe, to be released in 2024 in digital only I really hope we won't go toward that.

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Bob Dylan hadn't an army of fans determined to put his vault on line, and downloading it for 20 years. That's the difference.

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The resurgence of the vinyle is to be relativised : it's still a niche, and it's too expensive to release the 18 disc of the vault in more than 30 vinyle !

To my knowledge, the SGT pEPPERS 50th's unreleased material wasn't released on vinyle : too expensive !

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I also have hard time to understand how can you say that the musical and creative content in Peppers 50th is better than what is on PR deluxe ? I don't think Prince's fan wants to hear half of the tracks in instrumental, or only the demos of the same lenght of the track they already know.

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In short, there is nothing new in Peppers, only a precious piece of history for the fans, like me. I have also Beatles fans friends that are not impressed at all by this material, and that didn't want to spend 100 dollars to have 100 minutes of music, some of them instrumental only.

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Firstly, I was referring to the Mono and Stereo album remasters that the Beatles did of their entire catalog in 2009. That is the proper way to remaster and release an artist's back catalog.

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Secondly, Bob Dylan does have an army of fans who bootlegged him and put them online. But they've been doing it for 50 years, not 20.

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Thirdly, my point is that you have a ltd edition set for hard-core fans which is expensive, and then digital download/stream for everyone else who doesn't want all 8 versions of Computer Blue.

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Fourth, ^^^ To your comment above. What? "Prince fans don't want to hear demos to songs they already know"

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