tbokris said:

RODSERLING said:

OK, so you want a new PR deluxe, to be released in 2024 in digital only I really hope we won't go toward that.

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Bob Dylan hadn't an army of fans determined to put his vault on line, and downloading it for 20 years. That's the difference.

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The resurgence of the vinyle is to be relativised : it's still a niche, and it's too expensive to release the 18 disc of the vault in more than 30 vinyle !

To my knowledge, the SGT pEPPERS 50th's unreleased material wasn't released on vinyle : too expensive !

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I also have hard time to understand how can you say that the musical and creative content in Peppers 50th is better than what is on PR deluxe ? I don't think Prince's fan wants to hear half of the tracks in instrumental, or only the demos of the same lenght of the track they already know.

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In short, there is nothing new in Peppers, only a precious piece of history for the fans, like me. I have also Beatles fans friends that are not impressed at all by this material, and that didn't want to spend 100 dollars to have 100 minutes of music, some of them instrumental only.

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Firstly, I was referring to the Mono and Stereo album remasters that the Beatles did of their entire catalog in 2009. That is the proper way to remaster and release an artist's back catalog.

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Secondly, Bob Dylan does have an army of fans who bootlegged him and put them online. But they've been doing it for 50 years, not 20.

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Thirdly, my point is that you have a ltd edition set for hard-core fans which is expensive, and then digital download/stream for everyone else who doesn't want all 8 versions of Computer Blue.

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Fourth, ^^^ To your comment above. What? "Prince fans don't want to hear demos to songs they already know"

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1. So you want a mono version of Purple Rain or SOTT ? The PR version that was released in CD in 1990 is the best you can find in term of dynamic in CD. You can't do better in this format, and you know it, especially when some of the tracks are overdubbed live.

The 2015 remaster is maybe brickwalled, but this is exactly what is expected for a remaster : less dynamic.

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3 and 4. Even hard core fans of the Beatles can't afford the 100 $ edition, don't expect this neither from Prince fans, especially only for "just" demos and instrumental takes.

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Anyway, this discussion shows only that you are well aware that bad results in term of sales for PR deluxe means the death of the reedition at an affordable price in the physical format.

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What you expect is to kill the market for 10 years, in the hope there will be 300 fans left to buy a 200 $ boxset of tracks that every bootleggers already shared, or would share in the meantime ; and then bitching about the fact there is nothing new and that it sounds awful.

RODSERLING said:

1. So you want a mono version of Purple Rain or SOTT ? The PR version that was released in CD in 1990 is the best you can find in term of dynamic in CD. You can't do better in this format, and you know it, especially when some of the tracks are overdubbed live.

The 2015 remaster is maybe brickwalled, but this is exactly what is expected for a remaster : less dynamic.

3 and 4. Even hard core fans of the Beatles can't afford the 100 $ edition, don't expect this neither from Prince fans, especially only for "just" demos and instrumental takes.

Anyway, this discussion shows only that you are well aware that bad results in term of sales for PR deluxe means the death of the reedition at an affordable price in the physical format.

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What you expect is to kill the market for 10 years, in the hope there will be 300 fans left to buy a 200 $ boxset of tracks that every bootleggers already shared, or would share in the meantime ; and then bitching about the fact there is nothing new and that it sounds awful.

RODSERLING said:

First and foremost, considering the fact that WB didn't promote it at all, this is absolutely not aimed to a mainstream audience.

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This is only for the hardcore Prince fans that read the forums from time to time. Otherwise, you can't be aware of it.

That's complete and utter bullshit.

If it was intended for hard-core Prince fans, they'd have to be out of their minds to put a bunch of irrelevant tracks on the bonus disc, as they have done. Not to mentional the lack of quality upgrade on the concert.

Advertisements have been made. It was promoted on Jimmy Fallon. Every music reviewer as published about it.

Just because it hasn't been promoted like a Taylor Swift album, doesn't mean it's not intended for the mainstream. That's not how record companies think.

Rhino....nuff said

tbokris said:

RODSERLING said:

1. So you want a mono version of Purple Rain or SOTT ? The PR version that was released in CD in 1990 is the best you can find in term of dynamic in CD. You can't do better in this format, and you know it, especially when some of the tracks are overdubbed live.

You're factually wrong. And stop taking everything I say so literally. The care over the Beatles remasters is the same care that should be taken with Prince. That is my point. Again stop taking the Beatles example so literally.

Anyway, this discussion shows only that you are well aware that bad results in term of sales for PR deluxe means the death of the reedition at an affordable price in the physical format.

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What you expect is to kill the market for 10 years, in the hope there will be 300 fans left to buy a 200 $ boxset of tracks that every bootleggers already shared, or would share in the meantime ; and then bitching about the fact there is nothing new and that it sounds awful.

Whatever

Not only I am factually right, but take another fact : you can say what you want about PR deluxe, this is the first time ever that for an album's reedition there is so much unreleased material on it.

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And this is not the material included in SGT PEPPERS 50th for 100$ that will prove me wrong : in term of musical content you have much in term of quality and quantity for 5 time less the price in PR Deluxe.

RODSERLING said:

tbokris said:

Whatever

Not only I am factually right, but take another fact : you can say what you want about PR deluxe, this is the first time ever that for an album's reedition there is so much unreleased material on it.

You mean just for a Prince album? Because I can think of numerous reissues from other artists that contained more.

embmmusic said:

RODSERLING said:

Not only I am factually right, but take another fact : you can say what you want about PR deluxe, this is the first time ever that for an album's reedition there is so much unreleased material on it.

You mean just for a Prince album? Because I can think of numerous reissues from other artists that contained more.

I am really interrested about you quoting numerous reissues that contain more unreleased track than PR deluxe.

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RODSERLING said:

tbokris said:

RODSERLING said:

I am really interrested about you quoting numerous reissues that contain more unreleased track than PR deluxe.

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Rodserling, I don't know whether you're trolling us or not. Your comments are so off base. . The point of remasters is not to reduce dynamic range. . Many reissues have a disc of unreleased material. Why do you think this is uncommon? Then again you didn't think Bob Dylan was heavily bootlegged so it shows you know very little about what you're saying. .

Prove me that I'm wrong please : quote me a reissue of an album with more than 77 minutes of unreleased music : not instrumentals, not demos : true unreleased music, different from what was published (unlike the SGT Peppers reissue, for instance).

Thank you.

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What is offbase for a Prince fan, is to not buy this reissue, which will kill for sure new releases in the future.

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RODSERLING said:

Prove me that I'm wrong please : quote me a reissue of an album with more than 77 minutes of unreleased music : not instrumentals, not demos : true unreleased music, different from what was published (unlike the SGT Peppers reissue, for instance).

Thank you.

If there would be one it would probably be a Zappa album...

What is offbase for a Prince fan, is to not buy this reissue, which will kill for sure new releases in the future.

Why?
The more this cheaply made, crap, half-assed effort sells the more cheap, crap, half-assed efforts we'll get and probably by the same idiots who "worked" on this one...

Neversin.

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Hi,

Elvis Costello Rhino 2 cd's had an extra disc of outtakes, demos, and live

The purpose of a remaster is not to brickwall it, IMO when done correct it should present the music in the purest form with techniques or technology that may reveal nuances that the former missed. It should attempt to sound like you are there in the room.

On example Get Happy CD:

RODSERLING said:

Prove me that I'm wrong please : quote me a reissue of an album with more than 77 minutes of unreleased music : not instrumentals, not demos : true unreleased music, different from what was published

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We aren't comparing it to 77 minutes of unreleased music though are we, because by your own restrictions we aren't including instrumentals which takes Father's Song off of PR Deluxe, bringing it down to 72 minutes of valid outtakes (again, by your own restrictions - there's no real reason why an instrumental track shouldn't be included as an outtake).

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Oh and We Can Fuck technically falls under your restrictions as well as it was released in a different form later. So we're down to 62 minutes. Oh and Computer Blue. 50 minutes now. And Possessed was released as part of the live show right? Oops, guess we're down to 42 minutes. Or shall we stop this ridiculous comparison now?

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As to comparisons to the Beatles release.. I would love a release with a remastered version as well as a new stereo mix. I think a lot can be done in remixing the original multi-track tapes, provided they still exist/are playable. I also love the demos and different takes, or even just some of the instrumentation. I'd love to get stems from some/all or Prince's songs, released or no. I'd have so much fun creating mixes and extended versions myself with all the things that I like. I'd love to create a nice ending to She's Always in My Hair that doesn't hurt my ears with that infernal kick drum sound. (the 80's have plenty of ill thought out experiments with the novelty of the computer drums and synthesizers)

As it is, I'm fairly happy with the Purple Rain remaster. It's what I expect a Prince re-release to be right now. An overly compressed/"modern" master of the original album, all other associated releases for completionists, some bonus demos/unreleased tracks and some live stuff. I hope the other albums get similar treatments. (maybe with a bit more care though)

On top of that, I'd love for fan releases.. complete albums with only alternate takes, audiofile (for lack of a better word) remasters, obscure live videos, flaws and all, big box sets of unreleased tracks based on whatever theme they can think of (12cd set of inspirational Jehova worship songs, sure! I love Rainbow Children as well).

I sincerely hope it's not going to be an either/or but an AND/AND. I hope they re-instate NPG music club, and charge 200+ euro per year for a few releases, some downloads and first dibs on celebration/tribute tickets. They get a steady revenue stream (very important for most companies), can do extra releases for general public that can be combined with media campaigns (they are expensive) and the fans will have an official gathering space outside of facebook/google hangouts/the org.

embmmusic said:

Oh and We Can Fuck technically falls under your restrictions as well as it was released in a different form later. So we're down to 62 minutes. Oh and Computer Blue. 50 minutes now. And Possessed was released as part of the live show right? Oops, guess we're down to 42 minutes. Or shall we stop this ridiculous comparison now?

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WE CAN FUCK is on Graffiti Bridge, not on Purple Rain, and the version included in Deluxe is much more different in itself than the whole demos on SGT PEPPERS complied.

The same thing for COMPUTER BLUE : 3 times the lenght of the original song.

Possessed was never released and you know it.

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That is my point, really easy to understand : in deluxe edition, usually, you only have 2 or 3 unreleased track, and then big filler such as alternate take that are 95% similar to the original (like SGt Peppers) and lives.

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aalloca said:

Hi,

Elvis Costello Rhino 2 cd's had an extra disc of outtakes, demos, and live

The purpose of a remaster is not to brickwall it, IMO when done correct it should present the music in the purest form with techniques or technology that may reveal nuances that the former missed. It should attempt to sound like you are there in the room.

On example Get Happy CD:

Disc: 2

1. I Stand Accused

2. So Young

3. Girls Talk

4. Human Touch

5. Temptation

6. Motel Matches

7. Clowntime Is Over, No.2

8. B Movie

9. Girls Talk

10. Getting Mighty Crowded

11. From a Whisper to a Scream

12. Watch Your Step

13. Dr. Luther's Assistant

14. Ghost Train

15. New Lace Sleeves

16. Hoover Factory

17. Just a Memory

18. I Can't Stand Up for Falling Down

19. New Amsterdam

20. Black & White World

21. Riot Act

22. 5ive Gears in Reverse

23. Love for Tender

24. Men Called Uncle

25. King Horse

26. Seven O'Clock

27. High Fidelity

28. Opportunity

29. The Imposter

30. Don't Look Back

Below is the real content of that bonus disc :

10 alternate versions that must be not far from the originals

4 lives (that are by far the longest tracks , )

7 demos versions, considering the lenghts of the songs, that must be really not far from the originals.

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Don't get me wrong I'm a big fan of alternate takes and demos. Bur frankly, besides a few artists (namely Sly Stone, Prince, MJ...) they rarely present more than 10 % difference with the original song.

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That's why objectively, the content of PR Deluxe is the best of any reissues that has ever been released. And this not the content below that will prove me wrong, I'm sorry.

1. "I Stand Accused" (Alternate version) (Colton, Smith) – 3:10
2. "So Young" (Burstin, Camilleri, Faehse) – 3:28
3. "Girls Talk" – 1:56
4. "Human Touch" (Alternate version) – 2:20
5. "Temptation" – 2:28
6. "Motel Matches" (Alternate version) – 2:27
7. "Clowntime Is Over" – 3:46
8. "B Movie" (Alternate version) – 2:26
9. "Girls Talk" – 2:03
10. "Getting Mighty Crowded" (McCoy) – 2:09
11. "From a Whisper to a Scream" (Alternate version) – 2:30
12. "Watch Your Step" (Alternate version) – 2:02
13. "Dr Luther's Assistant" – 3:28
14. "Ghost Train" – 3:07
15. "New Lace Sleeves" (Alternate version) – 3:47
16. "Hoover Factory" – 1:45
17. "Just a Memory" – 2:17
18. "I Can't Stand Up for Falling Down" (Alternate version) (Banks, Jones) – 2:45
19. "New Amsterdam" (Alternate version) – 2:31
20. "Black & White World" (Demo version) – 1:51
21. "Riot Act" (Demo version) – 2:50
22. "5ive Gears in Reverse" (Demo version) – 2:33
23. "Love for Tender" (Demo version) – 2:07
24. "Men Called Uncle" (Demo version) – 2:06
25. "King Horse" (Demo version) – 2:45
26. "Seven O'Clock" (Demo version) – 2:00
27. "High Fidelity" (Live) – 3:17
28. "Opportunity" (Live) – 2:33
29. "The Imposter" (Live, also on Concerts for the People of Kampuchea) – 2:11
30. "Don't Look Back" (Live) – 4:41

aalloca said:

The purpose of a remaster is not to brickwall it, IMO when done correct it should present the music in the purest form with techniques or technology that may reveal nuances that the former missed. It should attempt to sound like you are there in the room.

Well, frankly, the 2015 remaster reveal nuances I never heard before . I told you 3 years ago it was to be brickwalled, these are the rules now.

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Like it or not, this was supervised by Prince. Everybody knows here that if WB dismissed the 2015 remaster for the benefit of another, you'd be all bitching about it too ; and you'd use that reason to not buy it.

IIRC the 2001 MJ remasters were done by Bernie Grundman, and this is a fucked up job.

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Moreover, I stand on my position than the PR 1990 version is the best you can get on that format. It didn't need any remasterisation.

People originally complained here about it because the sound was too low ; so now that it is brickwalled you also complain about it. And on, and on, etc.

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Again, like it or not, the 2015 version is still better in term of dynamics and sound restitution than the last 25 years of any Prince release.

RODSERLING said:

People originally complained here about it because the sound was too low ; so now that it is brickwalled you also complain about it.

You realise there's stuff in between those two extremes right? Having listened to several reissues, the 2009 version stands head and shoulder above the rest in my opinion. It's a detailed and dynamic remaster that only the original release even comes close to.

embmmusic said:

RODSERLING said:

People originally complained here about it because the sound was too low ; so now that it is brickwalled you also complain about it.

You realise there's stuff in between those two extremes right? Having listened to several reissues, the 2009 version stands head and shoulder above the rest in my opinion. It's a detailed and dynamic remaster that only the original release even comes close to.

So you have it ! The 2009 version, you already have it ! You want to buy it twice ?

But you are reluctant to buy once 77 minutes of unreleased tracks, + the dvd + the B-sides for 20 dollars ? Can't you see the insanity of it all ?

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And if the 2009 version was released last month, instead of the 2015 Prince version, you'd all be bitching about the fact you already had it, and that you all wanted the Prince version, to respect his vision, etc. You know this too well how it works on the org.

USA 3rd week previsions: http://hitsdailydouble.co...lbum_chart

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Purple Rain is not even in the top 50 physical sales album anymore (but Peppers still is, of course). That means it maybe won't be in the official HOT 100 neither.

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Very Huge flop, even much more than what I predicted. Usually Americans love Purple Rain, but even them didn't buy it. And the rest of the world doesn't care anymore. WB released it way too late, as I said numerous times.

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There won't be other reissues, sadly, now that's for sure. And we all know why : shame on people here, so-called fans, who didn't buy it.

RODSERLING said:

embmmusic said:

You realise there's stuff in between those two extremes right? Having listened to several reissues, the 2009 version stands head and shoulder above the rest in my opinion. It's a detailed and dynamic remaster that only the original release even comes close to.

So you have it ! The 2009 version, you already have it ! You want to buy it twice ?

But you are reluctant to buy once 77 minutes of unreleased tracks, + the dvd + the B-sides for 20 dollars ? Can't you see the insanity of it all ?

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And if the 2009 version was released last month, instead of the 2015 Prince version, you'd all be bitching about the fact you already had it, and that you all wanted the Prince version, to respect his vision, etc. You know this too well how it works on the org.

I'm going to address these points one at a time because your logic confuses me here.

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Yes, I have the 2009 remaster. I have one copy. I do not wish to buy it twice.

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I'm not reluctant to buy the 2017 version - I pre-ordered it on vinyl and CD.

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Not really understanding your point, I guess the answer is no, I don't see the insanity of it.

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As for your second point, that's pure conjecture. You have no idea how people would have reacted to that. A Josh remaster versus a Kevin Gray one - I know which I'd prefer.

embmmusic said:

RODSERLING said:

So you have it ! The 2009 version, you already have it ! You want to buy it twice ?

But you are reluctant to buy once 77 minutes of unreleased tracks, + the dvd + the B-sides for 20 dollars ? Can't you see the insanity of it all ?

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And if the 2009 version was released last month, instead of the 2015 Prince version, you'd all be bitching about the fact you already had it, and that you all wanted the Prince version, to respect his vision, etc. You know this too well how it works on the org.

I'm going to address these points one at a time because your logic confuses me here.

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Yes, I have the 2009 remaster. I have one copy. I do not wish to buy it twice.

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I'm not reluctant to buy the 2017 version - I pre-ordered it on vinyl and CD.

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Not really understanding your point, I guess the answer is no, I don't see the insanity of it.

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As for your second point, that's pure conjecture. You have no idea how people would have reacted to that. A Josh remaster versus a Kevin Gray one - I know which I'd prefer.

That's a "global" you, address to whoever claim this reissue is not worth buying it, especially for the 2015 remasteR OR THE 3VAULT3

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I stand on my opinion that 99% of the org would have been bitching about the lack of this remaster if it had been replaced, and that PR Deluxe offers the best content ever in term of unreleased tracks.

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RODSERLING said:

Well, frankly, the 2015 remaster reveal nuances I never heard before . I told you 3 years ago it was to be brickwalled, these are the rules now.

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You predicted the remaster being brickwalled. You jinxed it. It's your fault that the remaster doesn't sound as good as it should.

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Like it or not, this was supervised by Prince. Everybody knows here that if WB dismissed the 2015 remaster for the benefit of another, you'd be all bitching about it too ; and you'd use that reason to not buy it.

IIRC the 2001 MJ remasters were done by Bernie Grundman, and this is a fucked up job.

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I don't like it. It sounds bad. So does Crystal Ball and Prince was responsible for that too. In fact Crystal Ball is incredibly painful to listen to in terms of how compressed and loud it is.

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Moreover, I stand on my position than the PR 1990 version is the best you can get on that format. It didn't need any remasterisation.

People originally complained here about it because the sound was too low ; so now that it is brickwalled you also complain about it. And on, and on, etc.

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Before PR Deluxe there only was 1 CD release for Purple Rain, which was the first time is came out on CD, and like a lot of albums, first released on CD the audio transfer is very flat sounding. There is a happy medium between flat sounding and compressed to death. Which sounds like the 2009 Rhino vinyl release, but this wasn't released on CD.

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Again, like it or not, the 2015 version is still better in term of dynamics and sound restitution than the last 25 years of any Prince release.

The waveform images posted by BueGangsta show that it literally isn't true. The glitches throughout and lack over oversight demonstrate that in terms of sound restoration, PR Deluze is a shambles.

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CONCLUSION: You are a troll who jinxed PR Deluxe and now you feel guilty and are trying to put the blame on others.

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tbokris said:

RODSERLING said:

Well, frankly, the 2015 remaster reveal nuances I never heard before . I told you 3 years ago it was to be brickwalled, these are the rules now.

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You predicted the remaster being brickwalled. You jinxed it. It's your fault that the remaster doesn't sound as good as it should.

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Before PR Deluxe there only was 1 CD release for Purple Rain, which was the first time is came out on CD, and like a lot of albums, first released on CD the audio transfer is very flat sounding. There is a happy medium between flat sounding and compressed to death. Which sounds like the 2009 Rhino vinyl release, but this wasn't released on CD.

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Again, like it or not, the 2015 version is still better in term of dynamics and sound restitution than the last 25 years of any Prince release.

The waveform images posted by BueGangsta show that it literally isn't true. The glitches throughout and lack over oversight demonstrate that in terms of sound restoration, PR Deluze is a shambles.

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CONCLUSION: You are a troll who jinxed PR Deluxe and now you feel guilty and are trying to put the blame on others.

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In term of dynamics, PR Deluxe is the best release since Diamonds and Pearls, like it or not this is true.

http://dr.loudness-war.info/

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Maybe you should buy a CD-player and listen to PR deluxe ?

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CONCLUSION : YOU are a troll, posting on the org but dissing the only release post-mortem that we will have, and now talking about superstition .

You know damn well that I'm right, that not buying now PR deluxe will have for only effect to kill any other potential future release, but you don't care.

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You also know damn well, as I proved it, that there is no other reissue in the music industry containing more unreleased material than in PR deluxe.

RODSERLING said:

tbokris said:

The waveform images posted by BueGangsta show that it literally isn't true. The glitches throughout and lack over oversight demonstrate that in terms of sound restoration, PR Deluze is a shambles.

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CONCLUSION: You are a troll who jinxed PR Deluxe and now you feel guilty and are trying to put the blame on others.

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In term of dynamics, PR Deluxe is the best release since Diamonds and Pearls, like it or not this is true.

http://dr.loudness-war.info/

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Maybe you should buy a CD-player and listen to PR deluxe ?

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CONCLUSION : YOU are a troll, posting on the org but dissing the only release post-mortem that we will have, and now talking about superstition .

You know damn well that I'm right, that not buying now PR deluxe will have for only effect to kill any other potential future release, but you don't care.

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You also know damn well, as I proved it, that there is no other reissue in the music industry containing more unreleased material than in PR deluxe.

PR Deluxe has 7 unreleased bonus tracks, that aren't either instrumentals, demos for songs we've already heard or alternate takes of songs we've already heard (these are your stupid guidelines as to what constitutes a 'good' bonus track).

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To show how little you know:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bootleg_Series_Vol._11:_The_Basement_Tapes_Complete

has *cough* more than 7 unreleased tracks on it.

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This is also a complete remaster (not brickwalled), restoration (some damaged tapes) and re-issue of sessions from which arguably the first ever bootleg was made. And you say Bob Dylan doesn't have fans who bootleg his stuff. You are a troll. Go away and take your negative energy with you.

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RODSERLING said:

USA 3rd week previsions: http://hitsdailydouble.co...lbum_chart

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Purple Rain is not even in the top 50 physical sales album anymore (but Peppers still is, of course). That means it maybe won't be in the official HOT 100 neither.

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Very Huge flop, even much more than what I predicted. Usually Americans love Purple Rain, but even them didn't buy it. And the rest of the world doesn't care anymore. WB released it way too late, as I said numerous times.

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There won't be other reissues, sadly, now that's for sure. And we all know why : shame on people here, so-called fans, who didn't buy it.

For all intents and purposes, Purple Rain has been a reissue since his death. 498K Purple Rain sales in 2016 alone. Not every Prince/Purple Rain fan will buy the same album 2 or 3 times. The sales of this version are not the only measuring stick for future reissues. I do not even begin to understand why you speak with such certainty and really have no real clue of either WBs expectations or future release plans. Its really an odd soapbox you are on with this. There will be future rereleases in some form or fashion....albeit too slow for our liking.

tbokris said:

RODSERLING said:

In term of dynamics, PR Deluxe is the best release since Diamonds and Pearls, like it or not this is true.

http://dr.loudness-war.info/

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Maybe you should buy a CD-player and listen to PR deluxe ?

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CONCLUSION : YOU are a troll, posting on the org but dissing the only release post-mortem that we will have, and now talking about superstition .

You know damn well that I'm right, that not buying now PR deluxe will have for only effect to kill any other potential future release, but you don't care.

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You also know damn well, as I proved it, that there is no other reissue in the music industry containing more unreleased material than in PR deluxe.

PR Deluxe has 7 unreleased bonus tracks, that aren't either instrumentals, demos for songs we've already heard or alternate takes of songs we've already heard (these are your stupid guidelines as to what constitutes a 'good' bonus track).

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To show how little you know:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bootleg_Series_Vol._11:_The_Basement_Tapes_Complete

has *cough* more than 7 unreleased tracks on it.

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This is also a complete remaster (not brickwalled), restoration (some damaged tapes) and re-issue of sessions from which arguably the first ever bootleg was made. And you say Bob Dylan doesn't have fans who bootleg his stuff. You are a troll. Go away and take your negative energy with you.

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"To show you how little you know" : you still don't know what a reissue of an album is.

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The basement tapes is the reissue of what album exactly ? This is just a collection of demo, outtakes and unreleased songs, like Crystall Ball, or the Ultimate Collection for MJ, or the Anthology for the Beatles, but surely not an album reissue. "What a troll you are", to quote you again.

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Moreover, WE CAN FUCK add at least 50% of musical elements not present in the final version ; whereas COMPUTER BLUE Hallway Speech adds 150 % of new musical elements !

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I love everything outtakes, and it's a real pleasure to hear McCartney singing differently one line or two in FIXING A HOLE. But this is nothing to compare to PR DELUXE in term of quantity and quality, that's for sure.

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And as of now, you still didn't prove your assertion that there are many reissues with more musical unreleased content than PR deluxe. I'm still waiting.

DarkKnight1 said:

RODSERLING said:

USA 3rd week previsions: http://hitsdailydouble.co...lbum_chart

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Purple Rain is not even in the top 50 physical sales album anymore (but Peppers still is, of course). That means it maybe won't be in the official HOT 100 neither.

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Very Huge flop, even much more than what I predicted. Usually Americans love Purple Rain, but even them didn't buy it. And the rest of the world doesn't care anymore. WB released it way too late, as I said numerous times.

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There won't be other reissues, sadly, now that's for sure. And we all know why : shame on people here, so-called fans, who didn't buy it.

There will be future rereleases in some form or fashion....

Thanks to agree to my point : you know damn well that future re-release won't be in a physical form, like PR deluxe.

RODSERLING said:

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The basement tapes is the reissue of what album exactly ?

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The Basement Tapes (1975)

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Other albums with more unreleased tracks than PR Deluxe (7 extra tracks by your standards):

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This reissue has 21 additional unreleased tracks. https://www.discogs.com/D...se/2166680

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This reissue has 8 unheard songs unreleased anywhere else

https://www.discogs.com/Ramones-Ramones-40th-Anniversary-Deluxe-Edition/release/9022105

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10 unreleased tracks

https://www.discogs.com/Young-Marble-Giants-Colossal-Youth/release/7355124

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I could keep going but pointing out your flaws seems a bit mean spirited because it's so obvious and easy.

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RODSERLING said:

There won't be other reissues, sadly, now that's for sure. And we all know why : shame on people here, so-called fans, who didn't buy it.

Wow, that's an illogical conclusion. What if ONLY the Prince fans boght the release and the general public didn't?
The last remaining fans who buy this release are by far less in numbers then the general public who also buy the new Beatles release. The general public decides the outcome if this release is succesfull or not and not the fans.