morningsong said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Stirring up crap? Who?

Anyone who isn't backing up their stories with any type of information for others to investigate.

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So, you are speaking indirectly to me, is that correct?

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Look, I don't stir-up crap about anything. It's just a conversation here about the Toxicology results, and people discussing their thoughts on it. Nowhere did I say in any of my comments that the information was written in stone, have I? smh

wouldnt one pill give him the desired effect???? why was he running to walgreens looking for more????

luvsexy4all said:

wouldnt one pill give him the desired effect???? why was he running to walgreens looking for more????

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Yes, he took the one illegal Fentanyl pill that took his life!

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None of the Rx at Walgreen's were pain meds.

morningsong said:

Why is checking to see if Prince ate a meal that was prepared so suspicious? Especially when it's your job to prepare meals? Makes perfect sense you'd be curious if your employer ate what you cooked. In a year I haven't seen any argument presented that makes any sense that validates pointing a finger at the chefs beyond people are angry and they watch too much sensationalized tv. So for me, unless someone has something concrete beyond a personal opinion I've got to give you a side-eye.

I COMPLETELY agree. And there isn't any sensible argument presented to be suspicious of those chefs - it seems all of that conspitorial nonsense is stemming from people desperate to put blame somewhere, and from those who are listening to and believing that nutty "psychic" who screams and yells about how "Prince told her" that the chefs poisoned him. I have to laugh when she goes into sputtering rages about how people who DONT believe that theory when she has (in her word) "evidence" that the chefs are guilty because of what "Prince told her",and then she'll say the most vile insulting and vulgar things both about the chefs and the 'idiots' who don't believe her, a psychic. BTW, Chris Cornell also was murdered (he came to her too and told her) and Robin Williams and I can't even remember who else (all celebrities) who just COME TO HER after their deaths and tell her they were murdered and also make ridiculous jokes which she repeats which I find interesting considering she also bills herself as a comedienne. lol So anyhow basically there IS NO concrete nor in any way sensible argument to support accusing those chefs beyond the gullible who buy into what this, or other, 'psychics' are putting out there.

cloveringold85 said:

morningsong said:

How the heck do you know they didn't on April 21st? Where are you getting your information? You seem awfully tight fisted with it.

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Hence why I said "I'm sure they did"........or maybe they didn't check the kitchen. None of us know that for sure. The food was still in the fridge when they had the Memorial service, so it appears that they did not check the kitchen. I'm not saying they DID or DID NOT, just saying that it doesn't seem that way, at least to me.

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Please, calm down now, okay?

Okay, things are getting crossed. The investigators wouldn't clean out the refrigerator. You know that and I know that. But there is a very valid reason why people who work in the kitchen might take it upon themselves to at least check out everything in the kitchen, maybe even clean out the refrigerator. Maybe they didn't touch a thing and left it as is, still not a suspicious behavior for professional chefs to at least look in the kitchen where they worked. I don't see how anyone can even think that's suspicious to begin with unless they are being melodramtic and pot stirring. It's dumb. Why go around repeating dumb stuff all over the internet? Please do not take anything I say on the org anywhere as if it were fact unless I've backed it up with some valid information. I'm most likely blowing off steam and talking crap.

luvsexy4all said:

wouldnt one pill give him the desired effect???? why was he running to walgreens looking for more????

Please inform us what he got at WalGreens, I've been here every day and still don't know.

cloveringold85 said:

Prince's Chef's, Juell and Ray Roberts has been discussed here on the Org many times.

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Lipstick Alley references the Org about the Chef story:

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http://www.lipstickalley....cies/page2

Lipstick Alley as a source of reference for credible discussion or facts? Now I've seen it all.

morningsong said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Hence why I said "I'm sure they did"........or maybe they didn't check the kitchen. None of us know that for sure. The food was still in the fridge when they had the Memorial service, so it appears that they did not check the kitchen. I'm not saying they DID or DID NOT, just saying that it doesn't seem that way, at least to me.

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Please, calm down now, okay?

Okay, things are getting crossed. The investigators wouldn't clean out the refrigerator. You know that and I know that. But there is a very valid reason why people who work in the kitchen might take it upon themselves to at least check out everything in the kitchen, maybe even clean out the refrigerator. Maybe they didn't touch a thing and left it as is, still not a suspicious behavior for professional chefs to at least look in the kitchen where they worked. I don't see how anyone can even think that's suspicious to begin with unless they are being melodramtic and pot stirring. It's dumb. Why go around repeating dumb stuff all over the internet? Please do not take anything I say on the org anywhere as if it were fact unless I've backed it up with some valid information. I'm most likely blowing off steam and talking crap.

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Okay. I wish I never even brought up the story about the Chef!!

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Look, I don't know how they run things at PP. Maybe the Chef's were told to not touch anything in the fridge? We don't know.

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Like I said earlier, maybe detectives felt there wasn't any reason to search the kitchen area.

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I'm sorry if I offended you or anyone else. My bad. Now, I'm gonna sign-off and.... , LOL

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I'm being sarcastic.......Need some humor around here, ya know?

morningsong said:

122884 said:

cloveringold85 said:

Prince's Chef's, Juell and Ray Roberts has been discussed here on the Org many times.

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Lipstick Alley references the Org about the Chef story:

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http://www.lipstickalley....cies/page2

Lipstick Alley as a source of reference for credible discussion or facts? Now I've seen it all.

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Ha-ha! That's hilarious, 122884!!

cloveringold85 said:

morningsong said:

Okay, things are getting crossed. The investigators wouldn't clean out the refrigerator. You know that and I know that. But there is a very valid reason why people who work in the kitchen might take it upon themselves to at least check out everything in the kitchen, maybe even clean out the refrigerator. Maybe they didn't touch a thing and left it as is, still not a suspicious behavior for professional chefs to at least look in the kitchen where they worked. I don't see how anyone can even think that's suspicious to begin with unless they are being melodramtic and pot stirring. It's dumb. Why go around repeating dumb stuff all over the internet? Please do not take anything I say on the org anywhere as if it were fact unless I've backed it up with some valid information. I'm most likely blowing off steam and talking crap.

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Okay. I wish I never even brought up the story about the Chef!!

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Look, I don't know how they run things at PP. Maybe the Chef's were told to not touch anything in the fridge? We don't know.

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Like I said earlier, maybe detectives felt there wasn't any reason to search the kitchen area.

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I'm sorry if I offended you or anyone else. My bad. Now, I'm gonna sign-off and.... , LOL

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I'm being sarcastic.......Need some humor around here, ya know?

I miss the days when orgers would tear folks shreds for not backing up their stuff. Now folks are coming in here blurting out any and every type of garbage they can get their hands on. It's annoying.

cloveringold85 said:

luvsexy4all said:

wouldnt one pill give him the desired effect???? why was he running to walgreens looking for more????

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Yes, he took the one illegal Fentanyl pill that took his life!

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None of the Rx at Walgreen's were pain meds.

so my point is ..he didnt intentionally take a fentanyl pill ....correct???? he thought he was taking oxy or perc.....did kirk say prince was taking fentanyl??????

cloveringold85 said:

122884 said:

Lipstick Alley as a source of reference for credible discussion or facts? Now I've seen it all.

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Ha-ha! That's hilarious, 122884!!

My comment itself, or that anyone would use that trash dump of a site as a source to support an argument (which I agree IS pretty hilarious! )?

cloveringold85 said:

morningsong said:

At your place of employment, you wouldn't check your desk? They weren't his lovers. They had to go about their job or stay their behinds at home and cry all they want.

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Well, Penny & Disch already cleared that up.

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Ray had to go about his job? What job? His boss died.

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What's this about crying?

I was wondering about "the job" at that point that job was over. The truth is the chefs were quick to go to the media right after Prince died I found it to be strange but they have already put it out there that they were lied to about his health.

122884 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Ha-ha! That's hilarious, 122884!!

My comment itself, or that anyone would use that trash dump of a site as a source to support an argument (which I agree IS pretty hilarious! )?

They do not censor people on that board and some of the info on that board has turned out to be true much more so than what is on this board.

There were stories about Londell's antics with the Jackson estate and some of the bums he hangs with and other stories about his business fuck-ups. All true and we are seeing his antics on display right now.

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Well, Penny & Disch already cleared that up.

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Ray had to go about his job? What job? His boss died.

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What's this about crying?

I was wondering about "the job" at that point that job was over. The truth is the chefs were quick to go to the media right after Prince died I found it to be strange but they have already put it out there that they were lied to about his health.

Why? When there were reporters swarming PP in those early days. Somebody stopped them when they came in to do whatever it was they did and they gave a brief interview. And us fans were grateful for something. How hard is that to understand? Everybody isn't show bizness reporter savvy. And they didn't say a thing tacky. People are just mean as snakes sometimes when they don't get what they want when they want it and now the fans are turning on them. It's disappointing.

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Well, Penny & Disch already cleared that up.

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Ray had to go about his job? What job? His boss died.

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What's this about crying?

I was wondering about "the job" at that point that job was over. The truth is the chefs were quick to go to the media right after Prince died I found it to be strange but they have already put it out there that they were lied to about his health.

Laura, I've tried Googling and can't find any articles or anything that state the chefs were lied to about his health. Not saying you're wrong but I just can't find anything that says what you're claiming so could you please point me in the direction where I can read about that? WHO lied to them about Prince's health? Prince?

122884 said:

laurarichardson said:

I was wondering about "the job" at that point that job was over. The truth is the chefs were quick to go to the media right after Prince died I found it to be strange but they have already put it out there that they were lied to about his health.

Laura, I've tried Googling and can't find any articles or anything that state the chefs were lied to about his health. Not saying you're wrong but I just can't find anything that says what you're claiming so could you please point me in the direction where I can read about that? WHO lied to them about Prince's health? Prince?

This came from Facebook. A crazy person actually sent a message to Jewell asking her directly if they posioned Prince. She wrote back saying of course not but they were lied to by his staff about his health. She did not elaborate and this Facebook page administrort whom I communicated with stated that there would be no more discussion about the chefs.

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morningsong said:

laurarichardson said:

I was wondering about "the job" at that point that job was over. The truth is the chefs were quick to go to the media right after Prince died I found it to be strange but they have already put it out there that they were lied to about his health.

Why? When there were reporters swarming PP in those early days. Somebody stopped them when they came in to do whatever it was they did and they gave a brief interview. And us fans were grateful for something. How hard is that to understand? Everybody isn't show bizness reporter savvy. And they didn't say a thing tacky. People are just mean as snakes sometimes when they don't get what they want when they want it and now the fans are turning on them. It's disappointing.

Actually they gave those interviews to the media on their own and they were very forthcoming and this was right after he died. I though it was strange then and I still think it was strange. I do not dislike them or think that they did anything to Prince. I just find their behavior odd right after his death.

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laytonian said:

cloveringold85 said:

morningsong said:

Anyone who isn't backing up their stories with any type of information for others to investigate.

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So, you are speaking indirectly to me, is that correct?

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Look, I don't stir-up crap about anything. It's just a conversation here about the Toxicology results, and people discussing their thoughts on it. Nowhere did I say in any of my comments that the information was written in stone, have I? smh

I asked you earlier today for your receipts about the detectives when you said the scene looked staged.

Now you continue with no receipts for the chefs.

Because you have none.

ChanGirl said:

I read recently about an EMT (?) who came into contact with some of this stuff while attending a patient and OD'ed immediately. He's okay, but this tells u about the danger of this crap. Reminds me of cyanide, which is just as dangerous.

But no, ya'll go ahead and keep on believing he was a drug addict .....

Its crossed my mind a couple of times that If the Fentanyl laced Pills were in Vitamin Bottles maybe just maybe Prince tipped the pills into his hands as one often does when taking vitamins or other Pills..sometimes you tip a handful of pills into your Palm , take one and put the rest back.

We know from the Police reports that they swabbed Princes hand and neck at the scene...

If just brushing a mattress with particles of fentanyl can cause an overdose...then holding a whole bunch in your hand would do the same...

not wanting to add any more morbid thoughts...

But Ive thought this a number of times and today I put it out there

122884 said:

I COMPLETELY agree. And there isn't any sensible argument presented to be suspicious of those chefs - it seems all of that conspitorial nonsense is stemming from people desperate to put blame somewhere, and from those who are listening to and believing that nutty "psychic" who screams and yells about how "Prince told her" that the chefs poisoned him. I have to laugh when she goes into sputtering rages about how people who DONT believe that theory when she has (in her word) "evidence" that the chefs are guilty because of what "Prince told her",and then she'll say the most vile insulting and vulgar things both about the chefs and the 'idiots' who don't believe her, a psychic. BTW, Chris Cornell also was murdered (he came to her too and told her) and Robin Williams and I can't even remember who else (all celebrities) who just COME TO HER after their deaths and tell her they were murdered and also make ridiculous jokes which she repeats which I find interesting considering she also bills herself as a comedienne. lol So anyhow basically there IS NO concrete nor in any way sensible argument to support accusing those chefs beyond the gullible who buy into what this, or other, 'psychics' are putting out there.

(((((((FULL CHILLS!!!)))))))


There are also people here who at every comment and add very little to the conversation.

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luvsexy4all said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Yes, he took the one illegal Fentanyl pill that took his life!

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None of the Rx at Walgreen's were pain meds.

so my point is ..he didnt intentionally take a fentanyl pill ....correct???? he thought he was taking oxy or perc.....did kirk say prince was taking fentanyl??????

I'm not sure whether we really know if he took fentanyl intentionally or not. All we know is that he took more than enough to kill him.

emesem said:

someone should go to jail for this.

Damn Right!!! But who?

cloveringold85 said:

luvsexy4all said:

wouldnt one pill give him the desired effect???? why was he running to walgreens looking for more????

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Yes, he took the one illegal Fentanyl pill that took his life!

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None of the Rx at Walgreen's were pain meds.

Do we know it was only one, it could have been two or three.

Mumio said:

122884 said:

I COMPLETELY agree. And there isn't any sensible argument presented to be suspicious of those chefs - it seems all of that conspitorial nonsense is stemming from people desperate to put blame somewhere, and from those who are listening to and believing that nutty "psychic" who screams and yells about how "Prince told her" that the chefs poisoned him. I have to laugh when she goes into sputtering rages about how people who DONT believe that theory when she has (in her word) "evidence" that the chefs are guilty because of what "Prince told her",and then she'll say the most vile insulting and vulgar things both about the chefs and the 'idiots' who don't believe her, a psychic. BTW, Chris Cornell also was murdered (he came to her too and told her) and Robin Williams and I can't even remember who else (all celebrities) who just COME TO HER after their deaths and tell her they were murdered and also make ridiculous jokes which she repeats which I find interesting considering she also bills herself as a comedienne. lol So anyhow basically there IS NO concrete nor in any way sensible argument to support accusing those chefs beyond the gullible who buy into what this, or other, 'psychics' are putting out there.

(((((((FULL CHILLS!!!)))))))


There are also people here who at every comment and add very little to the conversation.

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FULL CHILLS!!!!!! I can see I'm not the only one who has noticed the 'followers' of that woman and their constant state of being CHILLED. lol They need to get some sweaters, I think so they aren't so chilled all the time. And yep there's definitely a lot of chatter around here without much substance behind it, but for me that doesn't bother me too much if people are honest at the start that they're only speculating or thinking out loud or whatever, and don't get all over the top "I'M RIGHT AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY STUPID FOR NOT CONNECTING THE DOTS OR UNDERSTANDING THIS THAT OR THE OTHER THING THAT ISN'T ANY KIND OF EVIDENCE OR FACT BUT IT'S STILL SOOOO OBVIOUS YOU GUYS!!!!!!." Too many times I've seen people here, and on Facebook, thinking they have it ALLLLLLLLLL figured out based soley on speculations, (personal) suspicions or misinformation that they then disperse to others who believe it and the cycle continues and muddies up everything further. It's frustrating.

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122884 said:

Mumio said:

(((((((FULL CHILLS!!!)))))))


There are also people here who at every comment and add very little to the conversation.

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FULL CHILLS!!!!!! I can see I'm not the only one who has noticed the 'followers' of that woman and their constant state of being CHILLED. lol They need to get some sweaters, I think so they aren't so chilled all the time. And yep there's definitely a lot of chatter around here without much substance behind it, but for me that doesn't bother me too much if people are honest at the start that they're only speculating or thinking out loud or whatever, and don't get all over the top "I'M RIGHT AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY STUPID FOR NOT CONNECTING THE DOTS OR UNDERSTANDING THIS THAT OR THE OTHER THING THAT ISN'T ANY KIND OF EVIDENCE OR FACT BUT IT'S STILL SOOOO OBVIOUS YOU GUYS!!!!!!." Too many times I've seen people here, and on Facebook, thinking they have it ALLLLLLLLLL figured out based soley on speculations, (personal) suspicions or misinformation that they then disperse to others who believe it and the cycle continues and muddies up everything further. It's frustrating.

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Say what you will about this person, but the one thing you cannot deny, is that she was on record, days, weeks, and months, about circumstances and facts regarding Prince's passing that were verified to be 100% accurate when they were released to the public. Anyone here can verify that for themsleves, others here have already verified that.

Unfortunately though when folks see something they don't understand, or someone who seems different, or something that challenges their world view, they lash out, make fun of, belittle and ridicule those people to no end. Why is that? Human nature? Lack of an open mind? Prince was subject to that his whole life. I am very surprised at the lack of tolerance for different people some Prince fans have.

What this woman is saying, how she acts, whether she swears or not, has abolustely no relevance. What is important, is whether or not the things she has said, before anyone could possibly know, turned out to be accurate, and they have. That is not speculation, that is verification.

I cannot speak to anything she is saying, everything could simply be luck and coincidence, but she has been spookily spot on regarding Prince, BEFORE the fact, with what she has posted in her videos, that is undeniable.

The point here is not whether she is right or wrong in the bigger picture, not which one of us fans is right or wrong, but simply that things she has said have turned out to be verified and accurate. Therefore what she says should not be discounted at face value, regardless of how it is delivered, rather it should be entertained as only a possibility, not a truth, a possibility until proven otherwise.

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