PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

If you do not think race plays a role in criminal matters in this country stop living in La La land. Plenty of stats to back up what I am saying. I have no idea what race issues have to do with Hitler and what I am discussing. Because you do not want to acknowledge something does not mean it does not exsist.

You keep telling us " You never know what you are going to get when get street drugs " WTF is that suppose to mean? Don't you think he was addicted? Don't you think he took street drugs and his solely responsible for his stituation? Do you think he did not have any hip problems? Do you think he took these drugs for grins and giggles? Because your statements come across that way to me. It is my opinion. I think you think that is all this case is about? I do not so we have to agree to disagree.

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AGAIN, we are not talking about other cases, we are talking about Prince's case, and race is and was not a factor, IMO.

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You really must not read what other posters say, or you just can't comprehend, because you sure in the hell haven't comprehended what I've been saying, you have everything so twisted about what other people have said.

I read what you have to say I just do not agreee. I have my own opinion and I already stated why I have that opinion.

You promote a book by a bobble head.

You promote a book by an author who came on this board the day after Prince died and promoted his upcoming book.

I am sorry I got a lot of problems with the things you get behind and I know I am not the only one but you have a right to do it and I have right to say what I think.

Yes, it is staight forward she is not telling us anything we do not know so why keep stating it over and over again. What is the purpose? She thinks he rolled the dice and killed himself okay you told us that already. Some of us think there is more to it and we all have been straight forward about our thougts nothing is going to change that.

disch said:

That statement seems pretty clear to me: A buyer can't be certain the actual chemical composition of street drugs. The drugs might look like, say, Percocet but actually contain fentanyl.

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Seems pretty straightforward...

Hmm, first I don't think you (or anyone here, frankly) can criticize anyone for stating the same thing over and over. What are we all doing 12+ months later?

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It seems like Penny is saying Prince fell victim, as so many other addicted or otherwise struggling people do, to the risks of the illegal drug market. (And yes, people who commit drug crimes should be dealt with in legally appropriate ways, etc. etc. And yes I'm not a supporter of the 1980s-style, right-wing "drug war"/mass incarceration that I know you're an enthusastic advocate of, so you don't need to get into that again.)

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But specifically what do you mean by there is "more than that" in the Prince cause? That's very vague -- am I correct in assuming that you believe this was a premeditated murder?

laurarichardson said:

Yes, it is staight forward she is not telling us anything we do not know so why keep stating it over and over again. What is the purpose? She thinks he rolled the dice and killed himself okay you told us that already. Some of us think there is more to it and we all have been straight forward about our thougts nothing is going to change that.

disch said:

That statement seems pretty clear to me: A buyer can't be certain the actual chemical composition of street drugs. The drugs might look like, say, Percocet but actually contain fentanyl.

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Seems pretty straightforward...

I am a supporter of drug dealers going to prison for long periods of time since they seem to think it is okay to sell people elephant tranquilzer.

She and you are trying to make him the poster boy for pain pill abuse. I do not think he should be the poster boy. I think there was more to his life then some guy that shoved pain pills down his mouth for 30 years this just based on the dozens of people who are telling us he was not a recreational drug user.

I do believe there is a difference between someone being prescribed drugs that are so powerful that not only are they going to take your physical pain away they are going to make you a life time customer. This is big pharma fault because I do not believe for one minute he started using pain pills with out the direction of a medical professional.

I hope people who take drugs for grins and giggles can get the help they need but the solution is to get it off the streets or make it extremly difficult to obtain.

disch said:

Hmm, first I don't think you (or anyone here, frankly) can criticize anyone for stating the same thing over and over. What are we all doing 12+ months later?

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It seems like Penny is saying Prince fell victim, as so many other addicted or otherwise struggling people do, to the risks of the illegal drug market. (And yes, people who commit drug crimes should be dealt with in legally appropriate ways, etc. etc. And yes I'm not a supporter of the 1980s-style, right-wing "drug war"/mass incarceration that I know you're an enthusastic advocate of, so you don't need to get into that again.)

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But specifically what do you mean by there is "more than that" in the Prince cause? That's very vague -- am I correct in assuming that you believe this was a premeditated murder?

laurarichardson said:

Yes, it is staight forward she is not telling us anything we do not know so why keep stating it over and over again. What is the purpose? She thinks he rolled the dice and killed himself okay you told us that already. Some of us think there is more to it and we all have been straight forward about our thougts nothing is going to change that.

laurarichardson said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:

You did not look at the CBS news interview? Did you read the dumbass lies he told in the police from the search warrant? Do you realize that he has been refered to as a business manager on the last tour? Don't you think it is troublesome to have the man who is handling your money involved with drugs that killed you?

He was also VP of LFOA which we are now finding out had property stolen from it under his watch.

He disappeared and went on vacation right after the death and spent time on a cell phone while his best friend was found in a state of rigor motis. It appears his home, person or car were not searched. He has never been taken in for questioning.

Everything does not have to be a conspiracy and sometimes people hide in plain sight.

Well said...plus that same person was with him on the Moline flight and Prince himself called him a user.

I hope someone is following the money because I thought is was weird that Tidal claims they sent 3 million dollars to Prince but the estate could only account for $750k now Tidal has asked for a court date. How come the estate did not know where the the rest of the money was and how handled the revenue from his last concerts?

Did someone have POV for Prince? If so who and why.

Laura, we can have conversations without getting into comments like "She and you are trying to make him the poster boy for pain pill abuse." I don't know even know what the hell that means, frankly. And I literally can't recall one person here -- and certainly not me -- saying that they thought that he "shoved pain pills down his mouth for 30 years," let alone that there was nothing "more to his life."

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So, to quote Penny on this, STOP RIGHT THERE. Seriously. It's really not cool to project your own weird obsessions and prejudices and whatever else onto other people. Just stop.

laurarichardson said:

I am a supporter of drug dealers going to prison for long periods of time since they seem to think it is okay to sell people elephant tranquilzer.

She and you are trying to make him the poster boy for pain pill abuse. I do not think he should be the poster boy. I think there was more to his life then some guy that shoved pain pills down his mouth for 30 years this just based on the dozens of people who are telling us he was not a recreational drug user.

I do believe there is a difference between someone being prescribed drugs that are so powerful that not only are they going to take your physical pain away they are going to make you a life time customer. This is big pharma fault because I do not believe for one minute he started using pain pills with out the direction of a medical professional.

I hope people who take drugs for grins and giggles can get the help they need but the solution is to get it off the streets or make it extremly difficult to obtain.

disch said:

Hmm, first I don't think you (or anyone here, frankly) can criticize anyone for stating the same thing over and over. What are we all doing 12+ months later?

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It seems like Penny is saying Prince fell victim, as so many other addicted or otherwise struggling people do, to the risks of the illegal drug market. (And yes, people who commit drug crimes should be dealt with in legally appropriate ways, etc. etc. And yes I'm not a supporter of the 1980s-style, right-wing "drug war"/mass incarceration that I know you're an enthusastic advocate of, so you don't need to get into that again.)

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But specifically what do you mean by there is "more than that" in the Prince cause? That's very vague -- am I correct in assuming that you believe this was a premeditated murder?

If you and few other continue to babble on about pain pill addiction, emotional pain, and the nationwide epidimic he was caught him. Where do you think that narrative leads? It reduces him down to a junky to most of the masses maybe not you or fans but to the world.

There was more to him then that and he really does not deserve it.

When things settle down his family is going to have to work hard to steer away from that and so far they have not addressed it all so that is good start.

More time should be spent getting these drugs off the streets and putting the dealers and enablers away in prison. Then there needs to be reserch to find better ways for people to manage pain other than making people drug addicts and then racking them over the coals for doing what their doctor reccomended.

Oh I have back pain so I am not talking out of my ass I could in the future have to make decisions about what to do and I am not going to let some quack turn me into an addict so some pharma rep can make there sales quota.

disch said:

Laura, we can have conversations without getting into comments like "She and you are trying to make him the poster boy for pain pill abuse." I don't know even know what the hell that means, frankly. And I literally can't recall one person here -- and certainly not me -- saying that they thought that he "shoved pain pills down his mouth for 30 years," let alone that there was nothing "more to his life."

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So, to quote Penny on this, STOP RIGHT THERE. Seriously. It's really not cool to project your own weird obsessions and prejudices and whatever else onto other people. Just stop.

laurarichardson said:

I am a supporter of drug dealers going to prison for long periods of time since they seem to think it is okay to sell people elephant tranquilzer.

She and you are trying to make him the poster boy for pain pill abuse. I do not think he should be the poster boy. I think there was more to his life then some guy that shoved pain pills down his mouth for 30 years this just based on the dozens of people who are telling us he was not a recreational drug user.

I do believe there is a difference between someone being prescribed drugs that are so powerful that not only are they going to take your physical pain away they are going to make you a life time customer. This is big pharma fault because I do not believe for one minute he started using pain pills with out the direction of a medical professional.

I hope people who take drugs for grins and giggles can get the help they need but the solution is to get it off the streets or make it extremly difficult to obtain.

[Edited 5/11/17 9:16am]

Fine, I've gone with in circles with on this with you months ago and I'm sure as hell not starting agatin. If you want to cling to your bigotry and prejudice, that's your choice, but don't project it on to "the masses" or declare that you're speaking for them. I think many people have more compassion than you do.

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My personal hope that we can find ways of dealing with the drug crisis other than adding to the 1MM people we currently imprison in the US; mass incarceration and mandatory-minumum sentencing hasn't stopped the drive that consumer have for drugs, and it hasn't stopped the illegal trade. Until we can address the issues that drive people to use drugs and offer treatment not just for physical pain but for the other reasons people turn to drugs, all the imprisonment in the world isn't going to stop this epidemic.

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If Prince's death ends up saving other people's lives -- yes, even those of "recreational" drug users (aka anyone who takes drugs for any reason other than physical pain relief), who I know you don't believe are worth saving -- my view is, that's a really good thing.

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And that's all!

laurarichardson said:

If you and few other continue to babble on about pain pill addiction, emotional pain, nad the nationwide epidimic he was caught him. Where do you think that narrative leads? It reduces him down to a junky to most of the masses maybe not you or fans but to the world.

There was more to him then that and he really does not deserve it.

When things settle down his family is going to have to work hard to steer away from that and so far they have not addressed it all so that is good start.

More time should be spent getting these drugs off the streets and putting the dealers and enablers away in prison. Then there needs to be reserch to find better ways for people to manage pain other than making people drug addicts and then racking them over the coals for doing what their doctor reccomended.

Oh I have back pain so I am not talking out of my ass I could in the future have to make decisions about what to do and I am not going to let some quack turn me into an addict so some pharma rep can make there sales quota.

disch said:

Laura, we can have conversations without getting into comments like "She and you are trying to make him the poster boy for pain pill abuse." I don't know even know what the hell that means, frankly. And I literally can't recall one person here -- and certainly not me -- saying that they thought that he "shoved pain pills down his mouth for 30 years," let alone that there was nothing "more to his life."

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So, to quote Penny on this, STOP RIGHT THERE. Seriously. It's really not cool to project your own weird obsessions and prejudices and whatever else onto other people. Just stop.

[Edited 5/11/17 9:14am]

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

AGAIN, we are not talking about other cases, we are talking about Prince's case, and race is and was not a factor, IMO.

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You really must not read what other posters say, or you just can't comprehend, because you sure in the hell haven't comprehended what I've been saying, you have everything so twisted about what other people have said.

I read what you have to say I just do not agreee. I have my own opinion and I already stated why I have that opinion.

You promote a book by a bobble head.

You promote a book by an author who came on this board the day after Prince died and promoted his upcoming book.

I am sorry I got a lot of problems with the things you get behind and I know I am not the only one but you have a right to do it and I have right to say what I think.

Yeah, you have such a problem with those 2 books, and yet you are participating in both of the book clubs. LMAO.

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You have a right to think what you want, but you don't have a right to twist my words and try to put words in my mouth that I did not say. You seem to have that bad habit, with quite a few on this forum.

. You do not have permission to put words in my mouth when I never said such a thing. So STOP IT, and DON'T do it again. You understand? Is that clear enough for you?

[Edited 5/11/17 9:53am]

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:

Yes, it is staight forward she is not telling us anything we do not know so why keep stating it over and over again. What is the purpose? She thinks he rolled the dice and killed himself okay you told us that already. Some of us think there is more to it and we all have been straight forward about our thougts nothing is going to change that.

disch said:

That statement seems pretty clear to me: A buyer can't be certain the actual chemical composition of street drugs. The drugs might look like, say, Percocet but actually contain fentanyl.

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Seems pretty straightforward...

So now YOU are putting words in my mouth again and that I've said he rolled the dice and killed himself?

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Seriously, go get treatment Laura, sign off and go to your dr. to see wth is the matter with you.

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And 15,000 posts you have pretty much went over it and over it.

disch said:

Hmm, first I don't think you (or anyone here, frankly) can criticize anyone for stating the same thing over and over. What are we all doing 12+ months later?

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It seems like Penny is saying Prince fell victim, as so many other addicted or otherwise struggling people do, to the risks of the illegal drug market. (And yes, people who commit drug crimes should be dealt with in legally appropriate ways, etc. etc. And yes I'm not a supporter of the 1980s-style, right-wing "drug war"/mass incarceration that I know you're an enthusastic advocate of, so you don't need to get into that again.)

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But specifically what do you mean by there is "more than that" in the Prince cause? That's very vague -- am I correct in assuming that you believe this was a premeditated murder?

laurarichardson said:

Yes, it is staight forward she is not telling us anything we do not know so why keep stating it over and over again. What is the purpose? She thinks he rolled the dice and killed himself okay you told us that already. Some of us think there is more to it and we all have been straight forward about our thougts nothing is going to change that.

I don't think Laura understands 1 damn thing that I've said & she doesn't pay attention either.

Last year, a former addict who writes on the internet (she is now sober but had a Fentanyl addiction) said that Prince had been taking pills for a very long time, probably decades. People basically crucified me when I brought her comments up, but whether it was addiction or dependency doesn't matter to me. I know he didn't take anything to get high, and I respect him no matter what he did. He NEEDED these drugs to function, to reasonably live his life. That was all. But he needed what he apparently could no longer get legally, or did not want to get legally because he wanted to stay on the down low. I still have lots of questions about his last six months, and most especially about Moline to April 21. All of those pills all over the place ... Were they all over the place because Romeo was on vacation so no one would see his personal quarters so it was okay to put the bottles out there, or was it something else? I honestly don't know. But someone got him those pills. There were no boxes from China showing up at PP with Meron signing for them, I can guarantee that.

1Sasha said:

Last year, a former addict who writes on the internet (she is now sober but had a Fentanyl addiction) said that Prince had been taking pills for a very long time, probably decades. People basically crucified me when I brought her comments up, but whether it was addiction or dependency doesn't matter to me. I know he didn't take anything to get high, and I respect him no matter what he did. He NEEDED these drugs to function, to reasonably live his life. That was all. But he needed what he apparently could no longer get legally, or did not want to get legally because he wanted to stay on the down low. I still have lots of questions about his last six months, and most especially about Moline to April 21. All of those pills all over the place ... Were they all over the place because Romeo was on vacation so no one would see his personal quarters so it was okay to put the bottles out there, or was it something else? I honestly don't know. But someone got him those pills. There were no boxes from China showing up at PP with Meron signing for them, I can guarantee that.

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If he was taking them for decades he must of had an Rx because he could not have been abusing them for decades and lived as long as he did and got as much done as he did.

In additon, not one single person he worked with him can recall him being high other then his wine drinking which makes me wonder how could he be drinking wine and taking pain pills? Estates cannot sue for defamation so why do they just say what they know.

Even W&L said they were shocked.

Abusing and legitmatlly having an Rx are two different things. I wish his family would just come out and say what was going on. If he had an Rx then things must have taken a turn for the worst in the last six months of his life. The 65k in medical expenses still puzzles me as well as his two visit to the hospital starting back in 2014. All of this seems to go back to 2014.

I also went back and read the warrant again correct me if I am wrong but it seem like he did not have more than 100 pills and they were in the living quarters and the laundry room. Maybe it is just me but that is not like stashing them in the studio or under a seat.

Sigh I made myself clear.

PennyPurple said:

disch said:

Hmm, first I don't think you (or anyone here, frankly) can criticize anyone for stating the same thing over and over. What are we all doing 12+ months later?

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It seems like Penny is saying Prince fell victim, as so many other addicted or otherwise struggling people do, to the risks of the illegal drug market. (And yes, people who commit drug crimes should be dealt with in legally appropriate ways, etc. etc. And yes I'm not a supporter of the 1980s-style, right-wing "drug war"/mass incarceration that I know you're an enthusastic advocate of, so you don't need to get into that again.)

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But specifically what do you mean by there is "more than that" in the Prince cause? That's very vague -- am I correct in assuming that you believe this was a premeditated murder?

I don't think Laura understands 1 damn thing that I've said & she doesn't pay attention either.

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

I read what you have to say I just do not agreee. I have my own opinion and I already stated why I have that opinion.

You promote a book by a bobble head.

You promote a book by an author who came on this board the day after Prince died and promoted his upcoming book.

I am sorry I got a lot of problems with the things you get behind and I know I am not the only one but you have a right to do it and I have right to say what I think.

Yeah, you have such a problem with those 2 books, and yet you are participating in both of the book clubs. LMAO.

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You have a right to think what you want, but you don't have a right to twist my words and try to put words in my mouth that I did not say. You seem to have that bad habit, with quite a few on this forum.

. You do not have permission to put words in my mouth when I never said such a thing. So STOP IT, and DON'T do it again. You understand? Is that clear enough for you?

[Edited 5/11/17 9:53am]

I am not putting words in your mouth. I am telling you how your comments come across to me. Why is this so difficult for you to understand. I also love the internet courage as if someone should shake in their boots.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

I feel it is wrong to USE Prince for anything. It is not who he was and he would be disappointed if the media won and were able to get away with what they have done. He was given a fake laced pill that killed him. I will always believe him over the media and not one associate or friend has come out and said otherwise.

Not one. Something that no one can explain. He has been dead a year. Estates cannot sue for defamation people are free to say what they like yet no one saw him high other than wine for almost 40 years.

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I don't understand why certain people keep feeling the need to insult Mayte Garcia; calling her derogatory names and such. Prince loved her, she was his wife and they were together for some time. She knows more about him than we do. Did she do something wrong?

It's off topic so I apologize for that but it comes off as catty, mean spirited and unneccesary to call her names and shit. It smacks of a jealous streak and it's uncalled for really.

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

Last year, a former addict who writes on the internet (she is now sober but had a Fentanyl addiction) said that Prince had been taking pills for a very long time, probably decades. People basically crucified me when I brought her comments up, but whether it was addiction or dependency doesn't matter to me. I know he didn't take anything to get high, and I respect him no matter what he did. He NEEDED these drugs to function, to reasonably live his life. That was all. But he needed what he apparently could no longer get legally, or did not want to get legally because he wanted to stay on the down low. I still have lots of questions about his last six months, and most especially about Moline to April 21. All of those pills all over the place ... Were they all over the place because Romeo was on vacation so no one would see his personal quarters so it was okay to put the bottles out there, or was it something else? I honestly don't know. But someone got him those pills. There were no boxes from China showing up at PP with Meron signing for them, I can guarantee that.

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If he was taking them for decades he must of had an Rx because he could not have been abusing them for decades and lived as long as he did and got as much done as he did.

In additon, not one single person he worked with him can recall him being high other then his wine drinking which makes me wonder how could he be drinking wine and taking pain pills? Estates cannot sue for defamation so why do they just say what they know.

Even W&L said they were shocked.

Abusing and legitmatlly having an Rx are two different things. I wish his family would just come out and say what was going on. If he had an Rx then things must have taken a turn for the worst in the last six months of his life. The 65k in medical expenses still puzzles me as well as his two visit to the hospital starting back in 2014. All of this seems to go back to 2014.

I also went back and read the warrant again correct me if I am wrong but it seem like he did not have more than 100 pills and they were in the living quarters and the laundry room. Maybe it is just me but that is not like stashing them in the studio or under a seat.

I don't remember the count, but weren't there some in his shoulder/messenger bag, then on the countertops and in the laundry room? They never searched the rest of PP to the best of my knowledge on that date (April 21), so who knows if someone came in and cleaned up the rest of the place.

herb4 said:

I don't understand why certain people keep feeling the need to insult Mayte Garcia; calling her derogatory names and such. Prince loved her, she was his wife and they were together for some time. She knows more about him than we do. Did she do something wrong?

It's off topic so I apologize for that but it comes off as catty, mean spirited and unneccesary to call her names and shit. It smacks of a jealous streak and it's uncalled for really.

I don't have a problem with Mayte; I bought her book. I think she needs to stop selling herself as THE WIFE (or does she mean THE WIDOW) after her current book tour, though. She never calls him my ex-husband - it's always my husband. She is one of two ex-wives and she did not apparently have a relationship with Prince after their divorce. She is like those people who appear at Comic-Con year after year, making money on past glories. Enough now. Just enough. Move on.

herb4 said:

I don't understand why certain people keep feeling the need to insult Mayte Garcia; calling her derogatory names and such. Prince loved her, she was his wife and they were together for some time. She knows more about him than we do. Did she do something wrong?

It's off topic so I apologize for that but it comes off as catty, mean spirited and unneccesary to call her names and shit. It smacks of a jealous streak and it's uncalled for really.

She divulged things that I think are intensly private and I think it is tacky.

That is my opinion. I could say worst things about her and other people have and trust me I would not want to be in her shoes for all the money in china.

We are not on the school yard I think we are all adults and not caring for someone's actions does not mean jealous.

I do not like drug dealers, killers or pimps. Trust me I am not jealous of those people. I just do not like their behavior.

1Sasha said:

herb4 said:

I don't understand why certain people keep feeling the need to insult Mayte Garcia; calling her derogatory names and such. Prince loved her, she was his wife and they were together for some time. She knows more about him than we do. Did she do something wrong?

It's off topic so I apologize for that but it comes off as catty, mean spirited and unneccesary to call her names and shit. It smacks of a jealous streak and it's uncalled for really.

I don't have a problem with Mayte; I bought her book. I think she needs to stop selling herself as THE WIFE (or does she mean THE WIDOW) after her current book tour, though. She never calls him my ex-husband - it's always my husband. She is one of two ex-wives and she did not apparently have a relationship with Prince after their divorce. She is like those people who appear at Comic-Con year after year, making money on past glories. Enough now. Just enough. Move on.

But she is going to write another book and cannot get it thought her head that she is not a wife or widow but I am wrong for thinking she is a bobblehead?

1Sasha said:

laurarichardson said:

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If he was taking them for decades he must of had an Rx because he could not have been abusing them for decades and lived as long as he did and got as much done as he did.

In additon, not one single person he worked with him can recall him being high other then his wine drinking which makes me wonder how could he be drinking wine and taking pain pills? Estates cannot sue for defamation so why do they just say what they know.

Even W&L said they were shocked.

Abusing and legitmatlly having an Rx are two different things. I wish his family would just come out and say what was going on. If he had an Rx then things must have taken a turn for the worst in the last six months of his life. The 65k in medical expenses still puzzles me as well as his two visit to the hospital starting back in 2014. All of this seems to go back to 2014.

I also went back and read the warrant again correct me if I am wrong but it seem like he did not have more than 100 pills and they were in the living quarters and the laundry room. Maybe it is just me but that is not like stashing them in the studio or under a seat.

I don't remember the count, but weren't there some in his shoulder/messenger bag, then on the countertops and in the laundry room? They never searched the rest of PP to the best of my knowledge on that date (April 21), so who knows if someone came in and cleaned up the rest of the place.

Well if someone cleaned up the place they should have cleaned up the living quarters but I guess they were two busy talking on their cell phones, sending texts and chewing the fat with Andrew for 45 minutes.

kmama07 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

I feel it is wrong to USE Prince for anything. It is not who he was and he would be disappointed if the media won and were able to get away with what they have done. He was given a fake laced pill that killed him. I will always believe him over the media and not one associate or friend has come out and said otherwise.

Yes. He took a pill not knowing it was laced. But he took it because he had been taking pills. Unfortunately, this one pill killed him. But it wasn't the first and only pill he took. Ever. He had been taking pills ,probably for pain, probably for a very long time. I don't think of Prince as a street corner junkie. But I do believe he had a dependence on these pills and had been taking them for some time. So, yes. Being a drug user, a drug dependent person is part of who he was. It certainly doesn't diminish him as a person or a musician. I have great compassion and empathy for him and anyone else who is struggling or has struggled with the same thing.

Your logic, compassion and reason have no place here.

If you'll excuse us, we're trying to solve Prince's murder because everyone knows that Prince would never take drugs. He was perfect in every way and not some disgusting druggie who did disgusting drugs like a druggie who's disgusting and everyone is out to get him and tarnish the man in ppart because he is black. We all know that no one who ever abuses prescription drugs can accomplish things or succeed in any way.

Everyone who uses drugs is a strung out loser who drools all over themselves, nods out, shits themselves, steals things and can't ever work and they should all be in jail because they are worthless scum and addiction is not a medical issue. Prince was not worthless scum, nor unproductive, and was never in jail therefore he couldn't have possibly have had a drug problem and accidentally overdosed. Ergo, there must be some other explanation and I heard it from a person who posted it on Twitter that it was probably murder because that makes way more sense.

Now if you'll excuse me I have some windmills I need to tilt.

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

I don't have a problem with Mayte; I bought her book. I think she needs to stop selling herself as THE WIFE (or does she mean THE WIDOW) after her current book tour, though. She never calls him my ex-husband - it's always my husband. She is one of two ex-wives and she did not apparently have a relationship with Prince after their divorce. She is like those people who appear at Comic-Con year after year, making money on past glories. Enough now. Just enough. Move on.

But she is going to write another book and cannot get it thought her head that she is not a wife or widow but I am wrong for thinking she is a bobblehead?

That second book thing bothers me. But she needs money, and he is the ticket.

herb4 said:

kmama07 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said: Yes. He took a pill not knowing it was laced. But he took it because he had been taking pills. Unfortunately, this one pill killed him. But it wasn't the first and only pill he took. Ever. He had been taking pills ,probably for pain, probably for a very long time. I don't think of Prince as a street corner junkie. But I do believe he had a dependence on these pills and had been taking them for some time. So, yes. Being a drug user, a drug dependent person is part of who he was. It certainly doesn't diminish him as a person or a musician. I have great compassion and empathy for him and anyone else who is struggling or has struggled with the same thing.

Your logic, compassion and reason have no place here.

If you'll excuse us, we're trying to solve Prince's murder because everyone knows that Prince would never take drugs. He was perfect in every way and not some disgusting druggie who did disgusting drugs like a druggie who's disgusting and everyone is out to get him and tarnish the man in ppart because he is black. We all know that no one who ever abuses prescription drugs can accomplish things or succeed in any way.

Everyone who uses drugs is a strung out loser who drools all over themselves, nods out, shits themselves, steals things and can't ever work and they should all be in jail because they are worthless scum and addiction is not a medical issue. Prince was not worthless scum, nor unproductive, and was never in jail therefore he couldn't have possibly have had a drug problem and accidentally overdosed. Ergo, there must be some other explanation and I heard it from a person who posted it on Twitter that it was probably murder because that makes way more sense.

Now if you'll excuse me I have some windmills I need to tilt.

Have fun tilting and pretending.

1Sasha said:

laurarichardson said:

But she is going to write another book and cannot get it thought her head that she is not a wife or widow but I am wrong for thinking she is a bobblehead?

That second book thing bothers me. But she needs money, and he is the ticket.

Of course she is his widow and she is still hoping they find that will.

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

I don't remember the count, but weren't there some in his shoulder/messenger bag, then on the countertops and in the laundry room? They never searched the rest of PP to the best of my knowledge on that date (April 21), so who knows if someone came in and cleaned up the rest of the place.

Well if someone cleaned up the place they should have cleaned up the living quarters but I guess they were two busy talking on their cell phones, sending texts and chewing the fat with Andrew for 45 minutes.

Someone is in a grave medical state and they do not act immediately. I don't care about the phone calls - they didn't physically pack him up and take him to Hazelden. 112 pounds - it wouldn't have taken much to get him there and apply for some type of 5150-like order. I do have a friend in California whose son is a heroin addict; she begged the police to lock him up so he could get the help he needed (he blew through rehab a zillion times) under a court order, but the police said they couldn't touch him. Prince would have had to be judged a danger to himself, I imagine, to have him held in a facility or hospital.