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Reply #1350 posted 05/10/17 1:44pm

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moonsister said:

Prince did not test positive for fentanyl on the 14th, when he overdosed on Percocet. The doctor did a blood test on him on the 14th, and found Percocet which is exactly what Kirk told them they would find, and exactly what Kirk had just gotten a prescription for.

Can someone verify what moon just said? I thought it was still a mystery what exactly caused the near death plane incident.

/-We have no idea what the results were and we will never know due to HIPPA. I also do understand why Prince would need any test to tell him he was using Percocets.We only have Kirk's word and TMZ. I think we have a KJ fan.

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Reply #1351 posted 05/10/17 1:49pm

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laurarichardson said:

oliviacamron said:

Can someone verify what moon just said? I thought it was still a mystery what exactly caused the near death plane incident.

/-We have no idea what the results were and we will never know due to HIPPA. I also do understand why Prince would need any test to tell him he was using Percocets.We only have Kirk's word and TMZ. I think we have a KJ fan.

Agree LR.

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Reply #1352 posted 05/10/17 1:55pm

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laurarichardson said:
/-We have no idea what the results were and we will never know due to HIPPA. I also do understand why Prince would need any test to tell him he was using Percocets.We only have Kirk's word and TMZ. I think we have a KJ fan.
Agree LR.

I agree as well...please enlighten me here..the test in question was on the 14th? correct? some way we know this test did not test positive for Fentanyl, but we knowthis test came up positive for Percocet???? What was this test done for in the 1st place?? I didn't keep up with this test....(not being facetious)

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Reply #1353 posted 05/10/17 2:02pm

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That IS the only point I was trying to make...the oxy's were MANUFACTURED legally, but the Vicodins were not, and contained Fentanyl.

Vicodins ARE oxy, so I am not sure what you mean.

No, Vicodin are HYDROCODONE and acetamenophine, NOT OXYCODONE

You are right, my mistake about the oxy statement. But the Percocet (oxy) might or might not have been prescription. It could have been illegally made, like the Vicodin was.

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Reply #1354 posted 05/10/17 2:02pm

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But they found legitmate script for Oxy that Dr. S wrote for Kirk in Prince's belonging. So he has access to the real pills. We all find it hard to believe that he had the real deal and out of 100 pills picked a poison one. What are the chances?

We don't know the Percocet pills found in his possession were legal or illicit. They could be as phony as the Vicodin pills found in his possession. I think he chose the fake Vicodin over the Percocet (whether legal or illicit) because less than a week prior he had od'd on the legal Percocet that was prescribed for Kirk, and because he was trying to withdraw he took the weaker of the two. What are the chances of getting a poison pill? It all depends on how many pills you have taken and are taking, and how many suppliers you have, and how many shipments you have received. In Prince's case, it was one too many. It is also completely random, you could die from the first pill you take. [Edited 5/10/17 12:32pm] [Edited 5/10/17 12:35pm]

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If Prince was found with illegal pills in Moline, wouldn't he have been arrested?

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Reply #1355 posted 05/10/17 2:07pm

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precioux said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:
/-We have no idea what the results were and we will never know due to HIPPA. I also do understand why Prince would need any test to tell him he was using Percocets.We only have Kirk's word and TMZ. I think we have a KJ fan.

Agree LR.

I agree as well...please enlighten me here..the test in question was on the 14th? correct? some way we know this test did not test positive for Fentanyl, but we knowthis test came up positive for Percocet???? What was this test done for in the 1st place?? I didn't keep up with this test....(not being facetious)

[Edited 5/10/17 13:56pm]

Actually I have no idea where the test on the 14th came from. The only test thst was mentioned by the AP services was a test Dr. S ran on the 20th we found out from media reports that he did not have Fentenyl in his system from those test. If he had test in Moline or when got back from Minneapolis this has not been made known to the public. In fact we no timeline on what Prince was doing the week before he died outside of the party, bike riding, and going to the record store. We really are missing big chunks of time and information.

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Reply #1356 posted 05/10/17 2:07pm

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oliviacamron said:
Can someone verify what moon just said? I thought it was still a mystery what exactly caused the near death plane incident.
/-We have no idea what the results were and we will never know due to HIPPA. I also do understand why Prince would need any test to tell him he was using Percocets.We only have Kirk's word and TMZ. I think we have a KJ fan.

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Prince was most likely just having routine blood work done, because of the medications he was taking.

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Reply #1357 posted 05/10/17 2:10pm

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precioux said:

I agree as well...please enlighten me here..the test in question was on the 14th? correct? some way we know this test did not test positive for Fentanyl, but we knowthis test came up positive for Percocet???? What was this test done for in the 1st place?? I didn't keep up with this test....(not being facetious)

[Edited 5/10/17 13:56pm]

Actually I have no idea where the test on the 14th came from. The only test thst was mentioned by the AP services was a test Dr. S ran on the 20th we found out from media reports that he did not have Fentenyl in his system from those test. If he had test in Moline or when got back from Minneapolis this has not been made known to the public. In fact we no timeline on what Prince was doing the week before he died outside of the party, bike riding, and going to the record store. We really are missing big chunks of time and information.

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Wasn't Dr. S bringing him test results on the 21st? I believe Prince had seen his doctor the day before he passed. I'm pretty sure that's what all the reports said.

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Reply #1358 posted 05/10/17 2:10pm

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The search warrants states the doctor who treated Prince in Moline documented Prince was suffering from an opiate overdose. It doesnt say what kind of opiate although Kirk told the hospital staff it MAY have been percocet.

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Reply #1359 posted 05/10/17 2:10pm

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cloveringold85 said:

moonsister said:

laurarichardson said:

But they found legitmate script for Oxy that Dr. S wrote for Kirk in Prince's belonging. So he has access to the real pills. We all find it hard to believe that he had the real deal and out of 100 pills picked a poison one. What are the chances?

We don't know the Percocet pills found in his possession were legal or illicit. They could be as phony as the Vicodin pills found in his possession. I think he chose the fake Vicodin over the Percocet (whether legal or illicit) because less than a week prior he had od'd on the legal Percocet that was prescribed for Kirk, and because he was trying to withdraw he took the weaker of the two. What are the chances of getting a poison pill? It all depends on how many pills you have taken and are taking, and how many suppliers you have, and how many shipments you have received. In Prince's case, it was one too many. It is also completely random, you could die from the first pill you take. [Edited 5/10/17 12:32pm] [Edited 5/10/17 12:35pm]

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If Prince was found with illegal pills in Moline, wouldn't he have been arrested?

--You would think but remember he was superhuman to some people on this board.

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Reply #1360 posted 05/10/17 2:10pm

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moonsister said:

laurarichardson said:

But they found legitmate script for Oxy that Dr. S wrote for Kirk in Prince's belonging. So he has access to the real pills. We all find it hard to believe that he had the real deal and out of 100 pills picked a poison one. What are the chances?

We don't know the Percocet pills found in his possession were legal or illicit. They could be as phony as the Vicodin pills found in his possession. I think he chose the fake Vicodin over the Percocet (whether legal or illicit) because less than a week prior he had od'd on the legal Percocet that was prescribed for Kirk, and because he was trying to withdraw he took the weaker of the two. What are the chances of getting a poison pill? It all depends on how many pills you have taken and are taking, and how many suppliers you have, and how many shipments you have received. In Prince's case, it was one too many. It is also completely random, you could die from the first pill you take. [Edited 5/10/17 12:32pm] [Edited 5/10/17 12:35pm]

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If Prince was found with illegal pills in Moline, wouldn't he have been arrested?

Prince was not found with illegal pills in Moline. The hospital (as far as I know) did not call the police on Prince, but having illegal pills in his bag is probably one reason he wanted to hightail it out of Moline.

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Reply #1361 posted 05/10/17 2:14pm

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:
/-We have no idea what the results were and we will never know due to HIPPA. I also do understand why Prince would need any test to tell him he was using Percocets.We only have Kirk's word and TMZ. I think we have a KJ fan.

Agree LR.

I agree as well...please enlighten me here..the test in question was on the 14th? correct? some way we know this test did not test positive for Fentanyl, but we knowthis test came up positive for Percocet???? What was this test done for in the 1st place?? I didn't keep up with this test....(not being facetious)

[Edited 5/10/17 13:56pm]

The test was done in the hospital on the 14th because Prince had just almost died on board a plane. The doctor needs to know exactly what they are treating, and they do this with a blood test. Obviously they knew it was an overdose, but they are not just going to limit their care to the Narcan shots, then send him on his way. This was serious!
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Reply #1362 posted 05/10/17 2:15pm

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moonsister said:

cloveringold85 said:

moonsister said:

laurarichardson said:

But they found legitmate script for Oxy that Dr. S wrote for Kirk in Prince's belonging. So he has access to the real pills. We all find it hard to believe that he had the real deal and out of 100 pills picked a poison one. What are the chances?

We don't know the Percocet pills found in his possession were legal or illicit. They could be as phony as the Vicodin pills found in his possession. I think he chose the fake Vicodin over the Percocet (whether legal or illicit) because less than a week prior he had od'd on the legal Percocet that was prescribed for Kirk, and because he was trying to withdraw he took the weaker of the two. What are the chances of getting a poison pill? It all depends on how many pills you have taken and are taking, and how many suppliers you have, and how many shipments you have received. In Prince's case, it was one too many. It is also completely random, you could die from the first pill you take. [Edited 5/10/17 12:32pm] [Edited 5/10/17 12:35pm]

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If Prince was found with illegal pills in Moline, wouldn't he have been arrested?

Prince was not found with illegal pills in Moline. The hospital (as far as I know) did not call the police on Prince, but having illegal pills in his bag is probably one reason he wanted to hightail it out of Moline.

He didn't hightail out of there, he did not stay for additional treatment.

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Reply #1363 posted 05/10/17 2:18pm

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moonsister said:

The test was done in the hospital on the 14th because Prince had just almost died on board a plane. The doctor needs to know exactly what they are treating, and they do this with a blood test. Obviously they knew it was an overdose, but they are not just going to limit their care to the Narcan shots, then send him on his way. This was serious! [Edited 5/10/17 14:14pm]

The warrant states P refused treatment.

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Reply #1364 posted 05/10/17 2:23pm

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zenarose said:

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Do you have a link that provides this information? I'm not doubting you, it's just that I have researched this case from the beginning to present and I have not read this information.

This is the link I found today, but I originally found it in the Star Tribune.
http://www.vanityfair.com...dose-death

This article is from August 2016. VF is quoting several media versions. Here is yet another "anonymous official" giving their leak to the media. So I have to place it in the unproven file for now. Thanks for the link.

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Reply #1365 posted 05/10/17 2:23pm

If the POLICE found him with pills that they IDed as illegal, then he would have been subjected to whatever laws the police follow in that situation.

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There's no record that the police were called into the Moline incident (or that anyone inventoried the exact pills he had on him) and medical personnel are not typically required to contact cops even if they have strong suspicion of illegal drug activity -- and again, we don't know if the doctors in this situation suspected that.

laurarichardson said:
cloveringold85 said:

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If Prince was found with illegal pills in Moline, wouldn't he have been arrested?

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Reply #1366 posted 05/10/17 2:26pm

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If Prince was found with illegal pills in Moline, wouldn't he have been arrested?

--You would think but remember he was superhuman to some people on this board.

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I mean, the law is the law and no one is exempt, not even Prince!

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I remember when Dave Gahan of DM overdosed in LA back in 1996, I think it was. He was treated at the hospital and then arrested for possession of cocaine, which is illegal, as we all know, and he spent one year in rehab and got clean, thank God.

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Reply #1367 posted 05/10/17 2:27pm

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The test was done in the hospital on the 14th because Prince had just almost died on board a plane. The doctor needs to know exactly what they are treating, and they do this with a blood test. Obviously they knew it was an overdose, but they are not just going to limit their care to the Narcan shots, then send him on his way. This was serious! [Edited 5/10/17 14:14pm]

The warrant states P refused treatment.

Taking blood would have been done before Prince was capable of refusing anything.

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Reply #1368 posted 05/10/17 2:30pm

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cloveringold85 said:

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If Prince was found with illegal pills in Moline, wouldn't he have been arrested?

Prince was not found with illegal pills in Moline. The hospital (as far as I know) did not call the police on Prince, but having illegal pills in his bag is probably one reason he wanted to hightail it out of Moline.

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Just adding to what you said....What I was driving at is, if Prince was not arrested in Moline, that tells me that the pills he was carrying were legit. The paramedics had to have known what was in P's bag because they gave him Narcan and treated him in the hospital for opiate overdose.

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Reply #1369 posted 05/10/17 2:32pm

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I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.

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Reply #1370 posted 05/10/17 2:35pm

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I heard a rumor that Sheila E. had asked Tyka if she could view Prince's body, and Tyka refused. Have any of y'all heard anything like this, because this is the first time I heard about it.

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Reply #1371 posted 05/10/17 2:36pm

zenarose	cloveringold85 said: I heard a rumor that Sheila E. had asked Tyka if she could view Prince's body, and Tyka refused. Have any of y'all heard anything like this, because this is the first time I heard about it. No, where did you see this??
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Reply #1372 posted 05/10/17 2:37pm

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The search warrants states the doctor who treated Prince in Moline documented Prince was suffering from an opiate overdose. It doesnt say what kind of opiate although Kirk told the hospital staff it MAY have been percocet.

Kirk told them PROBABLY Percocet. Are you implying it could have been a fentanyl overdose? A fentanyl overdose would be improbable because Prince had access to a full safe prescription of oxy (Percocet) that Dr S ADMITS TO THE POLICE was prescribed to Kirk but was meant for Prince on the 14th. Why would Prince have needed a scrip if he had the illegal fentanyl laced pills with him? Why would he have taken the illegal fentanyl laced pills after having a doctor prescribe safe pills?

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Prince was not found with illegal pills in Moline. The hospital (as far as I know) did not call the police on Prince, but having illegal pills in his bag is probably one reason he wanted to hightail it out of Moline.

He didn't hightail out of there, he did not stay for additional treatment.

The plane records are on facebook. Plane landed like 1:15 am and departed Molina like 11 am something. So I guess he stayed 10 hours.

I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.

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moonsister said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

moonsister said:

The test was done in the hospital on the 14th because Prince had just almost died on board a plane. The doctor needs to know exactly what they are treating, and they do this with a blood test. Obviously they knew it was an overdose, but they are not just going to limit their care to the Narcan shots, then send him on his way. This was serious! [Edited 5/10/17 14:14pm]

The warrant states P refused treatment.

Taking blood would have been done before Prince was capable of refusing anything.

So we still do not know if any test were done Moline or what he O.D on in fact the hospital has said they did not have anyone at the hospital named Prince Rogers Nelson. Has far as refusing treatment why would he stay in that hospital if he was already seeing Dr.S? I think you using some speculative facts to make up stuff that we will never know about.

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Reply #1375 posted 05/10/17 2:43pm

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Prince was not found with illegal pills in Moline. The hospital (as far as I know) did not call the police on Prince, but having illegal pills in his bag is probably one reason he wanted to hightail it out of Moline.

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I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.

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moonsister said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The search warrants states the doctor who treated Prince in Moline documented Prince was suffering from an opiate overdose. It doesnt say what kind of opiate although Kirk told the hospital staff it MAY have been percocet.

Kirk told them PROBABLY Percocet. Are you implying it could have been a fentanyl overdose? A fentanyl overdose would be improbable because Prince had access to a full safe prescription of oxy (Percocet) that Dr S ADMITS TO THE POLICE was prescribed to Kirk but was meant for Prince on the 14th. Why would Prince have needed a scrip if he had the illegal fentanyl laced pills with him? Why would he have taken the illegal fentanyl laced pills after having a doctor prescribe safe pills?

The doctor did not say the Oxy was meant for Prince. The doctor said he prescribed no pain pills for Prince ever. In fact this was reported back on the 21st by the AP wire services because the warrant was left open. Why do you keep saying this?

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Reply #1377 posted 05/10/17 2:44pm

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I heard a rumor that Sheila E. had asked Tyka if she could view Prince's body, and Tyka refused. Have any of y'all heard anything like this, because this is the first time I heard about it.

No, where did you see this??

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Someone on YT made that statement. If they respond to me, I will post it here.

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Reply #1378 posted 05/10/17 2:45pm

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Prince was not found with illegal pills in Moline. The hospital (as far as I know) did not call the police on Prince, but having illegal pills in his bag is probably one reason he wanted to hightail it out of Moline.

Billy Jack bitch or kj , which one suits you better?

Like I've said, Kirk ain't no hero in this sad situation, but neither is Tyka or any other of his close family or associates. If the police could prove Kirk gave the oxy to Prince they'd arrest him. But Kirk can say he doesn't know how Prince got the oxy, he could have stolen it.

Keep in mind, if Prince hadn't taken that fatal dose of fentanyl on the 20th he might have successfully withdrawn from opioids, and we'd be patting on the back those folks who called the treatment center.

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Reply #1379 posted 05/10/17 2:45pm

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:
/-We have no idea what the results were and we will never know due to HIPPA. I also do understand why Prince would need any test to tell him he was using Percocets.We only have Kirk's word and TMZ. I think we have a KJ fan.

Agree LR.

I agree as well...please enlighten me here..the test in question was on the 14th? correct? some way we know this test did not test positive for Fentanyl, but we knowthis test came up positive for Percocet???? What was this test done for in the 1st place?? I didn't keep up with this test....(not being facetious)

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Actually I have no idea where the test on the 14th came from. The only test thst was mentioned by the AP services was a test Dr. S ran on the 20th we found out from media reports that he did not have Fentenyl in his system from those test. If he had test in Moline or when got back from Minneapolis this has not been made known to the public. In fact we no timeline on what Prince was doing the week before he died outside of the party, bike riding, and going to the record store. We really are missing big chunks of time and information.

Exactly-that's why I stated in an earlier post (test that we knew of on the 20th), that Fentanyl only stays in the system up to 3 days. By day 6, it is out of your system (IF OD'd on fentanyl on the 14th and didn't touch it again until the fatal dose, it would not have shown up on the 20th)..still, where on this tested was it stated that fentanyl was not detected? I'm curious

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