Ingela said:

Asenath0607 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

rogifan said:

Hmm...🤔

Judith didnt seem to hate journalism when she gave that interview so soon after his death, eh?

Exactly!

Asenath0607 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Judith didnt seem to hate journalism when she gave that interview so soon after his death, eh?

Exactly!

and todays news does not change my love for Prince and his music.

[Edited 4/17/17 22:31pm]

1Sasha said:

disch said:

It seems like the biggest question some people here want answered is the source of the fentanyl that killed him. How would the full autopsy report help us know that?

I would like to know why he had to take the drugs found at PP and in his system. I know what has been rumored ... And I know the party line. But this use goes back a long time. It might not have been the same drug or drugs, but he was "assisted" along the way. The source of the Fentanyl is probably the source of all of the illicit drugs found. Who is going to shop dealers and/or enablers? One-stop shopping, if you will. Do I think KJ was involved in the process? Yes. Were others involved? I think so. There are too many inconsistencies for me, as well as too many coincidences. Plus, as far as Judith is concerned: your boyfriend ODs and you take a hike to LA? Please. Did anyone truly care for this man as a man, and not as a mealticket/icon? Could anyone say "no" to him?

THANK YOU!!! And I don't want to hear about "Prince was a grown man", "couldn't make him do anything", "she had prior obligations".... blah, blah, blah

MissBoop24 said:

So Kirk Johnson had multiple perscriptions under his name including the one from Doctor Michael Shuclenberg...

Kirk Johnson was the one who made the call to Andrew Kornfeld? Kirk Johnson was 1 of 6 people at Paisley Park when Prince died...

feeluupp said:

So Kirk Johnson had multiple perscriptions under his name including the one from Doctor Michael Shuclenberg...

Kirk Johnson was the one who made the call to Andrew Kornfeld? Kirk Johnson was 1 of 6 people at Paisley Park when Prince died...

Very murky indeed.

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Here's the thing, the search warrants were released, not the results.

The cell phone and gmails must tell plenty. Both warrants mention kirk, cell gps for whereabouts, calls, texts etc.

He also had access to the after dark gmail account.

Did it strike anyone else that on 04-21 the laptop was in the bedroom, but in the office when they went back to collect it?

Moved and most likely used. You cannot truly delete anything! Computer forensics is amazing.

The results of these search warrants will come to light when they're listed in an arrest warrant. I feel it in my gut and heart.

feeluupp said:

Bassette said:

PennyPurple said:

Lot's of people live with chronic pain 24/7, he could've beaten it, he should've been referred to a Pain Clinic.

Something used him until he was used "up".

^^^

LoriJ said:

ForeverPaisley said:

I think federal laws changed since his death.

I couldn't agree more about the shame factor. His shame didn't allow him to get help sooner, nearby and openly. It's so sad that he didn't realize family, friends and a dedicated fanbase would have supported and not judged him through it.

TXfan said:

MissBoop24 said:

I swear I'm tired of addiction being a dirty word. Nobody in their right mind wants to be addicted to drugs, specifically people who are in pain. It's nothing to be ashamed of, it can happen to anyone. Perscription drugs are very easy to get addicted to, as we can see with the increase in overdoses of both Hollywood and everyday people.

I agree. I suffer from back problems and have been on hydrocodone for 8yrs. I do respect the meds I take and have never abused them. I have found my recently taking twice as much as normal but it's still under my doctors recommended dosage. I think my back/leg pain is worst than ever now but these things just allow me to get around, they don't take the pain completely away. I'm saddened by Prince's situation because he never had a chance to get better. I don't think he was going thru withdrawals because he had so many pills available. The hiding them all over thing is a sure sign of having a problem, also almost dying on that plane was another red flag. I'm not sure about the laws in Minnesota but here in TX it's not that easy to get opioids anymore. For sure you can't have a doctor give your friend a prescription meant for you. You can't get more than 1 opioid script within 30 days, and it can't be phoned in by a doctor either. You have to pick up your paper perscription ( printed on department of public safety paper ) in person and have it filled exactly 30 days or later from your last. They also ask for ID, no aliases will work. Too many people are dying out there, this stuff is no joke. I'm surprised if Minnesota hasn't changed the laws concerning opioids since Prince's death. With all the media coverage lately and Trump in office I think this country is in for a huge change in the way these medications are going to be dealt with and perscribed.

LoriJ said:

I think federal laws changed since his death.

I couldn't agree more about the shame factor. His shame didn't allow him to get help sooner, nearby and openly. It's so sad that he didn't realize family, friends and a dedicated fanbase would have supported and not judged him through it.

TXfan said:

MissBoop24 said: I agree. I suffer from back problems and have been on hydrocodone for 8yrs. I do respect the meds I take and have never abused them. I have found my recently taking twice as much as normal but it's still under my doctors recommended dosage. I think my back/leg pain is worst than ever now but these things just allow me to get around, they don't take the pain completely away. I'm saddened by Prince's situation because he never had a chance to get better. I don't think he was going thru withdrawals because he had so many pills available. The hiding them all over thing is a sure sign of having a problem, also almost dying on that plane was another red flag. I'm not sure about the laws in Minnesota but here in TX it's not that easy to get opioids anymore. For sure you can't have a doctor give your friend a prescription meant for you. You can't get more than 1 opioid script within 30 days, and it can't be phoned in by a doctor either. You have to pick up your paper perscription ( printed on department of public safety paper ) in person and have it filled exactly 30 days or later from your last. They also ask for ID, no aliases will work. Too many people are dying out there, this stuff is no joke. I'm surprised if Minnesota hasn't changed the laws concerning opioids since Prince's death. With all the media coverage lately and Trump in office I think this country is in for a huge change in the way these medications are going to be dealt with and perscribed.

that's a very likely cause, in fact, someone on here posted a thread a year ago that said something like "the moral of the story is, shame kills". It really does, Prince, as great as he was, could never just say "fuck what anyone thinks" and just be human.

Giovanni777 said:

Does anyone find it odd that Prince's handwritten lyrics to "U Got The Look" were in the suitcase with the pills? The suitcase labeled "Peter Bravestrong", which was allegedly his travel suitcase.

Very strange. This whole deal smells rotten. No security cam? No security guard. Found w/ clothes on backwards?

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Asenath0607 said:

But isn't the issue not really the pain pills per say, but the fact that the pills in question were cut with an exuberant amount of fentanyl. As someone else posted, I think we are losing sight of the fact that it was the fentanyl.

Agree...it was the fentanyl laced pill that someone gave P that killed him.

Exactly and for the sake of argument, Prince supposedly was going through withdrawals and was to get treatment the very next day. So how and why in the bloody fucking hell did he end up taking just one more pain pill? One that just so happened to look like a regular Hydrocodone pill but was laced with the Fentanyl that killed him?

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Lovejunky said:

One would think the elevator would be one of the first places they visited since it gave access to upstairs..

There were probably some stairs which did that too.

precioux said:

laurarichardson said:

Explain the doctor prescribing the oxy if he was helping with withdrawals. Explain the Diapham which is a generic for Vicodin. It can be used for seizures but why would you give that to a person trying to get off drugs.

He had a lot of medical issues going on either from the withdrawal or actual pain from something else

Remember he had $65k in medical expenses on his inventory sheet and had made two trips to the hospital back in 2014 and 2015 per Kirk. All I going to say if you see the pics of him in the fall of 2015 who looks puffy in the face and a few months later looks like death warmed over.

*Diazepam* is NOT generic for vicodin, it is generic for Xanax. And Xanax IS used to help calm those going through withdrawls, it is also prescribed in conjunction with pain pills most of the time. Look it up

Um

Actually, Diazepamm is generic Valium. Alprazolam is generic Xanax.

Carry on.

moonsister said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Lovejunky said:

One would think the elevator would be one of the first places they visited since it gave access to upstairs..

There were probably some stairs which did that too.

yes..I could have worded that better...

but the point is did it really take 43 minutes to find him ????

TXfan said:

LBrent said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Asenath0607 said: Agree...it was the fentanyl laced pill that someone gave P that killed him.

Exactly and for the sake of argument, Prince supposedly was going through withdrawals and was to get treatment the very next day. So how and why in the bloody fucking hell did he end up taking just one more pain pill? One that just so happened to look like a regular Hydrocodone pill but was laced with the Fentanyl that killed him?

To me that part above in bold looks really suspicious.

I suppose it could have just happened that way by mistake, but it makes u wonder too.

Also the security cameras being off ? wonder if it was normal for them to be off ? they should be able to track when they were last on and what was the usual routine of there use.

I agree it seems Prince had too many yes men and maybe yes women, Im sure it wasnt easy to sway someone as single minded and driven as Prince but considering what happened one week earlier and the fact people just left him alone given his known state is very unfortunate.

nelcp777 said:

2kittens said:

See October 20th 2016. Request to reseal documents.

What is the importance of this? I missed something.

Um it was in reply to some comments that had been made about why has no-one been arrested and why certain people have been free to travel etc. The request to seal search documents from the 20th say the case is an active homicide investigation. Point 3 of the document is saying they wished information from the investigation to remain confidential so as not to alert potential suspects causing them to flee or alter or destoy evidence. Relate this back to why certain people have been allowed to continue on with life as normal. Best if you read the document itself as I can't fully explain what I mean.

tmo1965 said:

206Michelle said:

For whatever reason, I didn't think of Larry Graham when I wrote my comment, but yes, he would be another member of that inner circle for sure.

Prince was probably hiding his pill problem from LG and the JWs because he could kicked out of the JWs if they found out.

That isn't part of JW doctrine.

If a drug dependency came to their attention he'd have been encouraged to seek medical help for it.

Could someone please clarify. There was no more fentanyl found in the searches made by investigators? The only fentanyl found was from toxicology results?

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

He carried that bag where ever he went, even as far back as when he and Mayte were married. It also had cash in it, so he could pay for things or give money to someone for doing an errand for him.

It was the same bag from 20 years ago? Did Mayte reveal that in her tell all. Yet she had no idea what was in the bag as far a drugs but she knew money was in a bag.

The suitcase was for traveling. He was on tour and Romeo said up until the week he had off he packed all of Prince's bags and never saw drugs.

We do not know if these bags in his living quarters were taken with him prior to Romeo having off.

Yes, it looks like the same bag, even if not the same physical bag, where he probably kept personal things like sunglasses, money, whatever.

He said he never saw drugs, but acording to Mayte that bag used to contain vitamin bottles. So... considering all the mislabel bottles at PP, that contained other stuff inside and not vitamins, I think it's safe to assume the bodyguard never saw drugs but he did pack those vitamins. See where I'm getting at?