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Reply #60 posted 12/27/16 4:45pm

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mnfriend said:

I re-watched Prince on Arsenio Hall 2014
whole different perspective now that he passed.
He knew.
To me, P seemed to choke down tears/emotion when
Arsenio said 'you've always been a good friend to me'
I don't know exactly what was going on with his health
but something serious WAS going on.
I think that's what's so painful--- he was carrying it.
On the other hand, w/ the knowledge
he got to set things right.

--- I will have to watch it again but someone on one of the Facebook pages said they looked right at him at the Warner Theater in 2015. They said he was letting Stevie Wonder perform and he was on the side of the stage watching and just had saddest look on his face.
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Reply #61 posted 12/27/16 5:36pm

Dibblekins

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Dibblekins said:

CURIOSITY WARNING!!! biggrin

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Odd that Prince and GM were both about to embark on either written memoirs, or a documentary charting their lives; odd that Carrie Fisher had just completed her autobiography and was doing a tour promoting it when the three of them passed...I do wonder if some people have a 'sense' that their time is running short and so they need to do these things before it's too late...

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Maybe.... Seems GM and Carrie may have had a "sense"but Prince was given a fatal dose of fentanyl. Maybe he also felt that was coming from someone? So very sad that His death is the only homicide sad

I think it depends on whether you're of the opinion that Prince (and Tyka) knew his time was limited and that he started doing 'unusual' / out of character things during the last two years of his life as a consequence...
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Admittedly, we don't know how he came by the fentanyl (but even if he 'only' knew they weren't legitimate pills, that means he HAD to know he was running a risk taking them, irrespective of their contents / source).
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I still have my suspicions that a) he was seriously unwell, b) he knew the pills weren't legit. and c) that although he may not have committed suicide, he was prepared to roll the dice and let God / fate decide what happened to him.

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Others' views differ - and that's OK too... smile

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Reply #62 posted 12/27/16 6:11pm

zenarose
Maybe we should look at this in reverse. Meaning rather than withdrawing from pain meds, he was starting to take them and they were making him ill. Possibly a form of crippling arthritis was the cause of his pain. His mother was wheelchair bound from severe arthritis and she was in pain, along with the need of a second kidney transplant when she passed. I did research on arthritis and some types are hereditary. I don't know anything for sure of course, but it's a different way of looking at it. He had just come home after being out of the US touring. Perhaps he could have acquired meds out of the country. Maybe he saw Dr. S because the meds were making him ill. I'm still not convinced that his food wasn't being tainted. Perhaps a bit of both??? Thus the reason for the tests that Dr. S performed, which has yet to be a proven fact.

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[Edited 12/27/16 19:10pm]
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Reply #63 posted 12/27/16 8:31pm

PurpleDiamonds
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Dibblekins, true we may never know the answers,who knows you maybe right....JMO there is so much we have not been told therefore all is just speculation. I like hearing what all are thinking.
Wish we were told the truth!
IMO still thinking someone was doing something to eliminate him. I believe what those who spoke to him have said like Appolonia mentioned There was a Judas in his life since 2014. Also reading what others have said even those who attended his piano and mic shows the last couple of months...no one was ready for this.
Also the last couple weeks of his life are full of questions with no real answers. The Cali dr&son story does not add up not going to go through all again it's been discussed here many times only to be taken down.
like Zena pointed out he went to see Dr S my guess is he wanted to know why he was not feeling right and he was found not responsive before he received those results.
Possibly the person responsible for him not feeling well ended Ps life cuz they were about to get caught? Again just speculating but that thought has not Been proven wrong IMO yet. All we know is it is a Homicide investigation.
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Reply #64 posted 12/27/16 9:38pm

mnfriend
I've said my opinion before, but to add:
I certainly do not think his food was messed with,
my goodness his chef was the only sincerely honest
comment after P passed to tell us P was throwing up food/
couldn't keep it down
and he didn't touch his last prepared meal.
I say it's classified a homicide investigation
because of the illegal deadly pills/bad street drugs,
which has been a serious problem in Mpls.
let's not forget the former Glam Slam manager found dead
3 or so months after from the same bad street drug.
Perhaps they (DEA) are trying to nail the source/ illegal drug dealer.
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Reply #65 posted 12/28/16 2:34am

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zenarose said:

Maybe we should look at this in reverse. Meaning rather than withdrawing from pain meds, he was starting to take them and they were making him ill. Possibly a form of crippling arthritis was the cause of his pain. His mother was wheelchair bound from severe arthritis and she was in pain, along with the need of a second kidney transplant when she passed. I did research on arthritis and some types are hereditary. I don't know anything for sure of course, but it's a different way of looking at it. He had just come home after being out of the US touring. Perhaps he could have acquired meds out of the country. Maybe he saw Dr. S because the meds were making him ill. I'm still not convinced that his food wasn't being tainted. Perhaps a bit of both??? Thus the reason for the tests that Dr. S performed, which has yet to be a proven fact.

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[Edited 12/27/16 19:10pm]

The search warrent before it was sealed mentioned the results that Dr.S was bringing on the 21st and Dr. S was interviewed we just do not know what the results were or what the test were for.
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Reply #66 posted 12/28/16 5:31am

zenarose

mnfriend said:

I've said my opinion before, but to add:
I certainly do not think his food was messed with,
my goodness his chef was the only sincerely honest
comment after P passed to tell us P was throwing up food/
couldn't keep it down
and he didn't touch his last prepared meal.
I say it's classified a homicide investigation
because of the illegal deadly pills/bad street drugs,
which has been a serious problem in Mpls.
let's not forget the former Glam Slam manager found dead
3 or so months after from the same bad street drug.
Perhaps they (DEA) are trying to nail the source/ illegal drug dealer.




There could be a few sources of food being tampered with and without the chef having knowledge of it. For instance nutrient additives for smoothies....soups, could have been given to the chef to use in the preparation of P's food and drinks. There are more than just the chef that was in PP on a daily bases. So I certainly would not put suspicion on just the chef. I am not pointing to any one person. I am looking at everyone. Just like others here, I'm searching for the truth. It seems the only way to find the truth is sorting through a lot of ugly.
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Reply #67 posted 12/28/16 5:46am

1Sasha

I don't know where the comment came from, but someone posted here on the org that the chef's wife said "they" lied to them about the state of Prince's health. Who was "they?" The chef and his wife apparently noticed Prince's change in appearance and the decline in his health, so they asked a person or persons around him what was going on. Of all of the people in Prince's circle, employ or whatever, I thought this was the truest statement of all. And then they stopped talking and now they offer food at PP.

[Edited 12/28/16 5:47am]

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Reply #68 posted 12/28/16 6:07am

mnfriend
I believe the autopsy would have revealed any chemical/poison (like unknowingly put in a smoothie) they took a long time with tissue/ organ/ blood analysis
and it was the highly jacked fentanyl pill that caused death.

Agree 1Sasha everything I briefly read (after they went silent) from the chef and his wife was sincere/love of P.
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Reply #69 posted 12/28/16 6:18am

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1Sasha said:

I don't know where the comment came from, but someone posted here on the org that the chef's wife said "they" lied to them about the state of Prince's health. Who was "they?" The chef and his wife apparently noticed Prince's change in appearance and the decline in his health, so they asked a person or persons around him what was going on. Of all of the people in Prince's circle, employ or whatever, I thought this was the truest statement of all. And then they stopped talking and now they offer food at PP.

[Edited 12/28/16 5:47am]

Where did you see that the chef's said they were lied to about his health? I saw an interview with the female chef a few weeks ago were she was discussing how neat and detail oriented he was and started crying during the interview.

I am also not sure why they would think that if Prince had health issues they would be informed about it. They both are still working at Paisley Park so I doubt they are upset or concerned about their own health.

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Reply #70 posted 12/28/16 6:33am

zenarose
My point was that "unknown drugs" "additives" COULD have been in the food and drinks. Example: diazepam.....without the knowledge of the chef. If you believe the media, there were several drugs in P's system. How did they get in his system?? Did he willingly, knowingly take all the meds?? Or were they given to him without his knowledge. I'm throwing out different scenarios. We really don't know.
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Reply #71 posted 12/28/16 6:37am

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zenarose said:

My point was that "unknown drugs" "additives" COULD have been in the food and drinks. Example: diazepam.....without the knowledge of the chef. If you believe the media, there were several drugs in P's system. How did they get in his system?? Did he willingly, knowingly take all the meds?? Or were they given to him without his knowledge. I'm throwing out different scenarios. We really don't know.

The unnamed source said the other substances were found in his system it did not say they were found in the pills. This is the problem with the media using unamed sources.

Diazepam can be used for seziures the other substance can be injected into the joints for pain relief or used as a heart med. We know that Dr. S wrote other Rxs for Prince and the police would have access all of his medical records and would know what he was taking with an actual RX and what he never prescribed.

It is possible that someone slipped him something and it could be the reason the case is still open.

I know there is more to the case then a simple open and shut o.d.

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Reply #72 posted 12/28/16 6:57am

zenarose

laurarichardson said:



zenarose said:


My point was that "unknown drugs" "additives" COULD have been in the food and drinks. Example: diazepam.....without the knowledge of the chef. If you believe the media, there were several drugs in P's system. How did they get in his system?? Did he willingly, knowingly take all the meds?? Or were they given to him without his knowledge. I'm throwing out different scenarios. We really don't know.

The unnamed source said the other substances were found in his system it did not say they were found in the pills. This is the problem with the media using unamed sources.



Diazepam can be used for seziures the other substance can be injected into the joints for pain relief or used as a heart med. We know that Dr. S wrote other Rxs for Prince and the police would have access all of his medical records and would know what he was taking with an actual RX and what he never prescribed.



It is possible that someone slipped him something and it could be the reason the case is still open.


I know there is more to the case then a simple open and shut o.d.







Exactly my thoughts. It is not a "slam dunk" case and there are many, many things that could have happened. Like I have openly admitted here before I have an open mind and I have researched things that scare the hell out of me. There are several ways this case can go. For now we are left with speculation only.
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Reply #73 posted 12/28/16 12:17pm

laurarichardso
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mnfriend said:

I've said my opinion before, but to add: I certainly do not think his food was messed with, my goodness his chef was the only sincerely honest comment after P passed to tell us P was throwing up food/ couldn't keep it down and he didn't touch his last prepared meal. I say it's classified a homicide investigation because of the illegal deadly pills/bad street drugs, which has been a serious problem in Mpls. let's not forget the former Glam Slam manager found dead 3 or so months after from the same bad street drug. Perhaps they (DEA) are trying to nail the source/ illegal drug dealer.

See the chef did not say he was throwing up food. The chef said he was asking for soups and smoothies because he said he throat was sore and complained of stomach pain. Nothing about throwing up. eek

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Reply #74 posted 12/28/16 1:03pm

1Sasha

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

I don't know where the comment came from, but someone posted here on the org that the chef's wife said "they" lied to them about the state of Prince's health. Who was "they?" The chef and his wife apparently noticed Prince's change in appearance and the decline in his health, so they asked a person or persons around him what was going on. Of all of the people in Prince's circle, employ or whatever, I thought this was the truest statement of all. And then they stopped talking and now they offer food at PP.

[Edited 12/28/16 5:47am]

Where did you see that the chef's said they were lied to about his health? I saw an interview with the female chef a few weeks ago were she was discussing how neat and detail oriented he was and started crying during the interview.

I am also not sure why they would think that if Prince had health issues they would be informed about it. They both are still working at Paisley Park so I doubt they are upset or concerned about their own health.

There was no reference to their own health. The comment was from the wife specifically. They did know - somehow - that Prince wanted smoothies and other soft food because he was having digestive issues.

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Reply #75 posted 12/28/16 1:34pm

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1Sasha said:



laurarichardson said:




1Sasha said:


I don't know where the comment came from, but someone posted here on the org that the chef's wife said "they" lied to them about the state of Prince's health. Who was "they?" The chef and his wife apparently noticed Prince's change in appearance and the decline in his health, so they asked a person or persons around him what was going on. Of all of the people in Prince's circle, employ or whatever, I thought this was the truest statement of all. And then they stopped talking and now they offer food at PP.


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Where did you see that the chef's said they were lied to about his health? I saw an interview with the female chef a few weeks ago were she was discussing how neat and detail oriented he was and started crying during the interview.



I am also not sure why they would think that if Prince had health issues they would be informed about it. They both are still working at Paisley Park so I doubt they are upset or concerned about their own health.





There was no reference to their own health. The comment was from the wife specifically. They did know - somehow - that Prince wanted smoothies and other soft food because he was having digestive issues.


-- I have read 4 interviews with these two and I do not remember them saying someone lied to them just that some time in January he started requesting soups and smoothies and complained about a sore throat and upset stomach. They really did not seem to know very much but I would not expect them to know anything I did find it interesting that they said he was a little less chatty but overall his demeanor did not change.
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Reply #76 posted 12/28/16 1:50pm

PurpleDiamonds
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Had said he had the flu...who didn't that year? Some had symptoms for over 6months.
I believe he had that flu.
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Reply #77 posted 12/28/16 2:00pm

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Had said he had the flu...who didn't that year? Some had symptoms for over 6months.
I believe he had that flu.

---The withdrawal story could be total nonsense and he could have had walking pnumonia or other illnesses he just was not tending to. He appears to have never stopped working so how would you get well.
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Reply #78 posted 12/28/16 2:08pm

PurpleDiamonds
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laurarichardson said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Had said he had the flu...who didn't that year? Some had symptoms for over 6months.
I believe he had that flu.

---The withdrawal story could be total nonsense and he could have had walking pnumonia or other illnesses he just was not tending to. He appears to have never stopped working so how would you get well.

Agree. He never seemed to rest he was a trooper and just kept going not wanting to disappoint fans.
The media bs is responsible for the drug story.
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Reply #79 posted 12/28/16 3:56pm

mnfriend
Seriously, this 1 article from the lovely couple chefs says more about his recent life than anything else or anyone!
http://www.citypages.com/...fs-8238997
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Reply #80 posted 12/28/16 4:18pm

PurpleDiamonds
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Remember reading that article...the people's comments are what many are thinking and Either the chefs statements are off or the writer.
The chef couple mention they had not yet gone on the piano and mic tour with Prince. That was proven on here that the couple was at the Atlanta 4-14 show. There was a photo with them showing their passes hmmmmm...

Found the link go to post 95
http://prince.org/msg/7/430382?&pg=4
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Reply #81 posted 12/28/16 7:32pm

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laurarichardson said:

-- I have read 4 interviews with these two and I do not remember them saying someone lied to them just that some time in January he started requesting soups and smoothies and complained about a sore throat and upset stomach. They really did not seem to know very much but I would not expect them to know anything I did find it interesting that they said he was a little less chatty but overall his demeanor did not change.

Laura, I think this statement is from a Facebook page (that I also read).

When people were saying the chef poisoned P someone emailed the wife and told her what people were saying. She denied the allegations, and said they were lied to about what was wrong with P.

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Reply #82 posted 12/29/16 3:18am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



laurarichardson said:


-- I have read 4 interviews with these two and I do not remember them saying someone lied to them just that some time in January he started requesting soups and smoothies and complained about a sore throat and upset stomach. They really did not seem to know very much but I would not expect them to know anything I did find it interesting that they said he was a little less chatty but overall his demeanor did not change.

Laura, I think this statement is from a Facebook page (that I also read).


When people were saying the chef poisoned P someone emailed the wife and told her what people were saying. She denied the allegations, and said they were lied to about what was wrong with P.


--Wow that is a bombshell. Because we do have at least six other people telling us the fans that we do not the whole story. Now I am conceived he had some other issues going on outside of pain pills.
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Reply #83 posted 12/29/16 6:14am

zenarose

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



laurarichardson said:


-- I have read 4 interviews with these two and I do not remember them saying someone lied to them just that some time in January he started requesting soups and smoothies and complained about a sore throat and upset stomach. They really did not seem to know very much but I would not expect them to know anything I did find it interesting that they said he was a little less chatty but overall his demeanor did not change.

Laura, I think this statement is from a Facebook page (that I also read).


When people were saying the chef poisoned P someone emailed the wife and told her what people were saying. She denied the allegations, and said they were lied to about what was wrong with P.


--Wow that is a bombshell. Because we do have at least six other people telling us the fans that we do not the whole story. Now I am conceived he had some other issues going on outside of pain pills.
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Does anyone have a link to the Chef's wife statement of this? I looked for this information back in August and came up empty.
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Reply #84 posted 12/29/16 6:36am

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zenarose said:

laurarichardson said:


--Wow that is a bombshell. Because we do have at least six other people telling us the fans that we do not the whole story. Now I am conceived he had some other issues going on outside of pain pills.
[Edited 12/29/16 3:22am]





Does anyone have a link to the Chef's wife statement of this? I looked for this information back in August and came up empty.

-/Appatently it came from Facebook and their must a 100 Facebook group.
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Reply #85 posted 12/29/16 7:51am

1Sasha

There you go ...

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Reply #86 posted 12/29/16 8:20am

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1Sasha said:

There you go ...

I know it just floors me to know what I thought is actually true despite the fact that it is going to come out anyway.

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Reply #87 posted 12/29/16 9:56am

PurpleDiamonds
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zenarose said:

laurarichardson said:


--Wow that is a bombshell. Because we do have at least six other people telling us the fans that we do not the whole story. Now I am conceived he had some other issues going on outside of pain pills.
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Does anyone have a link to the Chef's wife statement of this? I looked for this information back in August and came up empty.


I can't find it either. Only found the fox 9 interview and the only mention they were devistated...
https://m.facebook.com/st...3279138%2F
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Reply #88 posted 12/29/16 1:39pm

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

zenarose said:






Does anyone have a link to the Chef's wife statement of this? I looked for this information back in August and came up empty.


I can't find it either. Only found the fox 9 interview and the only mention they were devistated...
https://m.facebook.com/st...3279138%2F

--- It is suppose to be on a Prince Facebook pages.
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Reply #89 posted 12/30/16 6:41am

zenarose
Still digging through FB posts.....maybe I will find it.
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