SonyaG said:

avajane said:

Is it this one? This was taken on his last concert in Atlanta.

Such a haunting picture, I've seen it before. It's as though he's looking at something "unseen" by the naked eye.

tmo1965 said:

RainbowGranny said:

I wondered about depression but it looks like there was a loss of muscle mass too. I also wondered if he had a break with Larry Graham and JW around then.

It was reported after his death that he attended service at the Kingdom Hall only a few weeks before he passed. They even had a service for him and if he was not in good standing with JWs they would have never held a service for him.

Thanks for answering.

Truthfully, I can't say when it all went wrong. He always went around looking happy and content. I was worried when I head about the emergency plane landing and was happy they said he was ok. Whatever that going on with him, I don't think he wanted to worry people and burden people with his problems. I also don't think he was not used people worrying about him. You never know what kind of hardships people are going through behind closed doors.

I think right before 3121 came out, there were rumors about him having hip surgery. I remember when the BLACK SWEAT video came out, I saw that his ass was as flat as a pancake and I knew something wasn't right. That was 2006

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Purplestar88 said:

avajane said:

morningsong said:

In all this time I haven't read that anywhere once. Care to share your sources?

Here's a screenshot from an interview they gave to Fox 9 and both chefs are wearing their P&M tour passes which makes me believe they traveled with him.


Here'a link to the interview
https://m.facebook.com/st...3279138%2F
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daniorU said:

I think something strange was happening around the time he formed 3rdeyegirl. It seems to me that he started to act weirder than his usual: The afro,the heavily retouched pics,the use of social media,joshua producing,4 albums in two years after a 4 years break,resign with WB,piano and mic,the memoir deal. These could be normal happenings but combined with is suddenly ageing from 2013,weight loss and untimely death,I think it started late 2012.

I have to wonder if along with weight loss, he might have had hair loss. His afro could have easily been a wig and those pics of hats make me wonder as well. Or they might have been taken in colder months. I have had hair loss myself, so I know some of the "tricks".

he still looked damn good for his age but prince always looked not just damn good but phenomenal for his age, go back and look at him in his forties and he looked just as good or better than he ever did. Most men that age look like shit, go look at the guys you went to highschool with on facebook, paunchy bellys, tired eyes, lazy smiles. So, when i saw prince in the last few years, i though he didn't look himself but I just wrote it off "well, he is in his fifties" but now, I think it was something else.

also, i wonder how frustrated he was with his aging, i wish he could have known that many of us would have loved him with no hair, saggy cheeks and a walker just as much as we ever did.

PeteSilas said:

also, i wonder how frustrated he was with his aging, i wish he could have known that many of us would have loved him with no hair, saggy cheeks and a walker just as much as we ever did.

Absolutley!!!!

nursev said:

NinaB said:

Yes, very much hope so.

How would fans feel if Prince had a wife when he passed? Maybe we'd feel better about all this

I've said it before, that if he had a wife, I believe that he would still be here.

tmo1965 said:

nursev said:

NinaB said: How would fans feel if Prince had a wife when he passed? Maybe we'd feel better about all this

I've said it before, that if he had a wife, I believe that he would still be here.

The song Breakdown, makes me think there was someone special in his life who he loved, kept it real with him (didn't put up with his BS)...so just because he wasn't married didn't mean he didn't have someone in his life who he loved. I hope he did.

avajane said:

Bunsterdk said:

I can't remember the lighting, but it definitely looks like something from the P and M tour. He is looking up with eyes that are beyond sad.

Is it this one? This was taken on his last concert in Atlanta. [img:$uid]http://i65.tinypic.com/29dijw5.jpg[/img:$uid]

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I could be wrong but I don't think that was a pic from Atlanta.

morningsong said:

PeteSilas said:

maybe not out and out pro, the exctasy refs, the cocaine refs that happened in the 80's. Prince also reportedly drank wine in those years even though everything in his image was clean living, i think he said he was a vegetarian back then too. His whole image was clean living and in interviews he said things like he didn't like the idea of not bein able to look out for yourself if you're high. I think he meant it at the time but people slip up, especially when you are surrounded by the shit.

A lot of people from a large variety of lifestyles drink wine. Jesus drank wine, or at least whizzed some up, most don't see it as something heavy. All drugs aren't about being high for the sake of getting high. MJ wasn't getting high, the man got to a point he couldn't sleep normally.

MJ couldn't sleep normally because he was abusing demorol, which when taken for extended periods of time can cause insomnia. MJ was anti-drug until the fire incident. That's what led him down the drug abuse road.

tmo1965 said:

morningsong said:

PeteSilas said: A lot of people from a large variety of lifestyles drink wine. Jesus drank wine, or at least whizzed some up, most don't see it as something heavy. All drugs aren't about being high for the sake of getting high. MJ wasn't getting high, the man got to a point he couldn't sleep normally.

MJ couldn't sleep normally because he was abusing demorol, which when taken for extended periods of time can cause insomnia. MJ was anti-drug until the fire incident. That's what led him down the drug abuse road.

a lot of creative types tend to be insomniacs, i know i'm one but i don't touch anything for it, i'll just stay up later.

morningsong said:

avajane said:

Here's a screenshot from an interview they gave to Fox 9 and both chefs are wearing their P&M tour passes which makes me believe they traveled with him.


Here'a link to the interview
https://m.facebook.com/st...3279138%2F
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Thank you very much for sharing. That was a neat interview.


Ok, yeah, the interview said they prepared meals for him at PP everyday and sometimes on the road, but where did it say anything about what he was served on the plane that day? Don't be put ideas out about this nice couple.

FunkiestOne said:

PeteSilas said:

jenjens222 said:

I was thinking this earlier. I notice the change in early 2014. He looks so damn fine with his baby afro in 2013 . He was obviously an older man, but he looked healthy and still had that light in his eyes. Something changed big time. I feel like we'll never have answers

we'll get answers, no way anyone can keep a secret these days with all this internet stuff. anyway, looking back two things keep bothering me, the songs breakdown/way back home, and the way he looked on Arsenio. In both cases I just shut it out of my mind but the signs were clear that he very well may have been on his way out. Problem was, he was great and maintaining a facade so it made it easy to deny.

Yes! On the Arsenio Hall show, he looked like he was there, but not really. It's like there was something on his mind. It just felt different. I noticed the same thing on the Saturday Night Light anniversary performance also. They say hind sight is 20/20 and it sure is in this case. The signs that something was wrong was there, but everyone dismissed them. I originally thought the change in appearance was due to normal aging, but when I think about it now, he aged really fast from where he was only a couple years before.

I'm relatively new so I spent a lot of time looking at photos. I don't have a lot of the historical information - so I just went by what I saw. To me, it wasn't about the change of hair or aging...it seemed he just lost that spark in his eyes. Even when he was smiling, his eyes looked flat and dark. I noticed that right away in so many photos.

I do remember seeing him on New Girl and thinking it was the first time he didn't look ageless... the first time he looked mortal to me.

RainbowGranny said:

NinaB said:

RainbowGranny said:

I'm relatively new so I spent a lot of time looking at photos. I don't have a lot of the historical information - so I just went by what I saw. To me, it wasn't about the change of hair or aging...it seemed he just lost that spark in his eyes. Even when he was smiling, his eyes looked flat and dark. I noticed that right away in so many photos.

Yeah, you're right. I've seen it b4.

foreverfan1984 said:

tmo1965 said:

NinaB said:

NinaB said:

Yeah, you're right. I've seen it b4.

...and welcome Granny, when did u get in2 P?

rogifan said:

tmo1965 said:

Yes! On the Arsenio Hall show, he looked like he was there, but not really. It's like there was something on his mind. It just felt different. I noticed the same thing on the Saturday Night Light anniversary performance also. They say hind sight is 20/20 and it sure is in this case. The signs that something was wrong was there, but everyone dismissed them. I originally thought the change in appearance was due to normal aging, but when I think about it now, he aged really fast from where he was only a couple years before.

I wonder how much of this is looking for signs now that he's gone whereas if he was still alive we wouldn't be questioning these things. I've watched that Arsenio interview several times and nothing really stands out to me. But then again when I watched it I wasn't specifically looking for anything.

no, i thought something was up, i really did, i was in denial though.

RainbowGranny said:

rogifan said:

tmo1965 said:

Yes! On the Arsenio Hall show, he looked like he was there, but not really. It's like there was something on his mind. It just felt different. I noticed the same thing on the Saturday Night Light anniversary performance also. They say hind sight is 20/20 and it sure is in this case. The signs that something was wrong was there, but everyone dismissed them. I originally thought the change in appearance was due to normal aging, but when I think about it now, he aged really fast from where he was only a couple years before.

I wonder how much of this is looking for signs now that he's gone whereas if he was still alive we wouldn't be questioning these things. I've watched that Arsenio interview several times and nothing really stands out to me. But then again when I watched it I wasn't specifically looking for anything.

What I described above is what I felt when I saw the Arsenio show when it originally airred. I just said that he must be tired or something and did not give it a 2nd thought until April 21.