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Lovejunky said:

Lovejunky said:

I dont either and yes it is

Ok...so...

I just went and looked a Video that is going around at the moment..lol (yeah yeah)

OMG

Apples has commented on it...

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Lovejunky said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I don't look at them. But it's frigging annoying as hell to see it in the so-called newsfeed...

I dont either and yes it is

I keep thinking I'll wake up one day and this will all have been simply a long awful nightmare after all.

Lovejunky said:

oliviacamron said:

If Prince knew he was on his death bed, wouldn't he dump millions in charity ? Wouldn't he blow the whistle even more on the entertainment industry as if he had nothing to loose? You can't take it go the grave. He was so loving and giving. I think if he knew he only had 2 years to live he would have made so many dreams come true. He would have helped sick children and orphans. No way he would have let his millions be squandered on lawyers and taxes. He cared to much to have not done all the good he could with the time he had left.

I so believe this too....

However it doesnt discount that he knew he was very ill...

He was ready to die his whole life..

I do trust Phaedra though and since she is still at the Helm of the LLC , something GOOD will come from all this..

Also...when I was snooping around for details on Phaedra, I came across this

https://www.corporationwiki.com/California/Oakland/phaedra-ellis-lamkins/45010594.aspx

If you dig around you will come to the businesses active and inactive associated with 7108 you know which Road...along with NPGMusic Publishing the only one thats still active is

LBrent said:

oliviacamron said:

LBrent said: I know Brent. I'm afraid the sheriffs know they messed up and might do something to cover there own asses.

I remember when 4/21 first happened and I was hearing this information for the first time and my post is probably archived in that older thread, but when the ME report listed his clothing the one thing that I questioned was why weren't his shoes on the list.

His sox, underwear, TShirt, Shirt, pants and his HAT are listed...But no shoes. I thought that was odd. Who wears their HAT in the house...but no shoes?

Of course, as usual, someone who wasn't interested in entertaining questions about odd information possibly meaning foul play, turned the discussion into a melee and distracted things with trolling that eventually changed the course of the conversation. Yet the question was minimized and dismissed but never answered.

I even gave various scenarios that popped out to me why P not wearing shoes when found seemed odd.

Anyway, just a thought...

I always thought that he felt something was wrong after taking the pills and got dressed in a hurry in panic, which would make perfect sense. You take off your clothes and leave the socks inside out, a lot of people do that. The backwards clothes would reflect the urgency and the panic.
However... two things do no add up in this scenario: why would he put on a hat at this stage? Also, if that fentanyl pill is so strong it could kill several people, there's just no way he would have been able to dress himself, backward clothes or not.
So, does this mean he never got undressed in the first place? Or... does it mean someone else dressed hom upon finding him, to spare him the embarrassment of being found in his underwear or whatever? Doing so in a hurry would explain the backward clothes and he could have already have the socks on.
I know some of you will roll your eyes at this specific discussion, but perhaps it's not so unimportant as you may think...

[Edited 12/3/16 3:12am]

oliviacamron said:

If Prince knew he was on his death bed, wouldn't he dump millions in charity ? Wouldn't he blow the whistle even more on the entertainment industry as if he had nothing to loose? You can't take it go the grave. He was so loving and giving. I think if he knew he only had 2 years to live he would have made so many dreams come true. He would have helped sick children and orphans. No way he would have let his millions be squandered on lawyers and taxes. He cared to much to have not done all the good he could with the time he had left.

cloveringold85 said:

XxAxX said:

right. to be clear, i've enjoyed Herb's company over the years as he is intelligent, articulate and fun. but i really resent it when other people who disagree with my curiosity about non-mainstream subjects attempt to shame me into backing down or becoming silent on a subject they might not enjoy/believe in.

this thread is for all theories and i specifically disagree with Herb's take on the topics listed above.

again, this is not meant as an attack on Herb. moreover, i'm sure my preachy old lady take on this is likely fairly annoying to him why can't we all just get along??

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No offense, XxaxX, and with all due respect, I personally do not find Herb4's comments the least bit amusing. I've tried to engage in conversation with him in the past, and he continually insulted me, so I decided it was best for me to stop communicating with him. He can not and will not respect another person's opinion or point-of-view. I sincerely wish you luck, though!

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Honestly, I have no tolerance for that type of behavior.

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Fair enough. I DO go overboard sometimes when I post, I admit, and for that I apologize. But, no, you're right. I do NOT respect parents who fail to vaccinate their kids and send them to school with MY kid ( find it entirely irresponsible), 9/11 truthers, satanic sacrifice believers and moon landing hoaxers. All of these things have been completely debunked. I have little patience for Alex Jones/Infowars type shit when the facts on most of that stuff are readibly available. I also have little patience or tolerance for people who, when rebutting me, accuse me of being wrong about 25% of "the really important stuff" and then won't tell me what those things are.

I'm a nice enough guy most of the time and don't recall calling anyone a "brain dead lunatic " - BY NAME anyway. I've never been chastised by mods either. I'm not sure how this works. There seems to be a double standard sometimes here. Someone's opinion: "I think Prince was murdered and the Illuminati and WB were behind it." My opinion: "You're fucking crazy for believing that."

Maybe it would take the edge off if I wrote "IN MY OPINION a lot of you people are nuts" but I was always taught that's bad form and an obstacle to good writing since, by definition, if I post it, of COURSE it's my opinion.

nelcp777 said:

XxAxX said:

stuff

And for the record, I am not condoning inappropriate remarks. I took Herbs comments as sarcasm with a little hint of humor, not very literally.

That's pretty much how I meant it. I DO admit to going through a phase there for a while where I found myself getting angry and frustrated at a lot of the more far out stuff being posited around here and, for the most part, I think the mods side with me. I started a thread specifically to discuss "Prince" Was He Murdered" and THAT one got shut down; apparently because the mods have even a lower threshold for this silliness than I do. See also: how many times the fentanyl threads get closed.


If I think people are misguided at best and utterly insane at worst, I'm going to write about it and say just that if that's what I feel. Maybe instead of worrying about my style, one or three of you could engage me on my SUBSTANCE - especially when I get called out for posting FACTS. FACT: There's no such thing as the Easter Bunny or Santa, even if in your opinion there IS. Being coy, handwaving me away as a troll or worrying about profane language and things like that is, IN MY OPINION, burrying your head in the sand and resigning yourself to an echo chamber.

Saying that "MuleFunk thinks he's a prophet" when he/she continually posts "See? I told you guys this would happen" with dubious, concidental "evidence" is hard for me to view as a personal insult, especially when he/she accuses ME of "not seeing the real truth" and "turning a blind eye".

I mean, you can't just post far out irrational SHIT on a public message board and then cry about it if someone calls you out. I guess you CAN but it doesn't go a long way towards strengthening your argument when your entire rebuttal, the root of your argument and your entire defense is just calling people (like me) "sheep" who "believe everything the media says" and uses colrful language. IN MY OPINION the people who think Prince was murdered by Russians with briefcases funded by the Illuminatti and WB while conspiring with his chef, Kirk Johnson, the media and the ME are way off in loony land and could stand to ground themselves a bit, for their benefit, not mine.

purplethunder3121 said:

I really wish people would stop posting videos about "Prince was murdered" on FB and other sites...

soooo.... you saying he DID fake his own death?????

MMJas said:

LBrent said:

I remember when 4/21 first happened and I was hearing this information for the first time and my post is probably archived in that older thread, but when the ME report listed his clothing the one thing that I questioned was why weren't his shoes on the list.

His sox, underwear, TShirt, Shirt, pants and his HAT are listed...But no shoes. I thought that was odd. Who wears their HAT in the house...but no shoes?

Of course, as usual, someone who wasn't interested in entertaining questions about odd information possibly meaning foul play, turned the discussion into a melee and distracted things with trolling that eventually changed the course of the conversation. Yet the question was minimized and dismissed but never answered.

I even gave various scenarios that popped out to me why P not wearing shoes when found seemed odd.

Anyway, just a thought...

I always thought that he felt something was wrong after taking the pills and got dressed in a hurry in panic, which would make perfect sense. You take off your clothes and leave the socks inside out, a lot of people do that. The backwards clothes would reflect the urgency and the panic.
However... two things do no add up in this scenario: why would he put on a hat at this stage? Also, if that fentanyl pill is so strong it could kill several people, there's just no way he would have been able to dress himself, backward clothes or not.
So, does this mean he never got undressed in the first place? Or... does it mean someone else dressed hom upon finding him, to spare him the embarrassment of being found in his underwear or whatever? Doing so in a hurry would explain the backward clothes and he could have already have the socks on.
I know some of you will roll your eyes at this specific discussion, but perhaps it's not so unimportant as you may think...

[Edited 12/3/16 3:12am]

Exactly!

Which is why when the ME report listed his clothing I asked about his shoes. Why put on a hat but no shoes? It's Minnesota.

Then the disrupters derailed the conversation.

Another orger pointed out that when you dress someone else it's easy to put things on backwards, especially in a rush and panic, because the perspective is off.

^ the clothing thing really bothers me too. Prince did not carry things in his pockets. he didn't even wear clothing with pockets, to the best of my knowledge, and this is something referred to by others. i think when this mystery is solved, the scenario will begin to unravel..

herb4 said:

IN MY OPINION

And your having an opinion that differs from the ones in this or other likeminded threads is fine. Heck, everyone in these threads doesn't agree on the same things, the only constant being that there is a pervasive unrest as to the supposed facts that have been presented by both the media and law enforcement.

And having stated on numerous ocassions that you don't feel the same way and are accepting what has been presented, why continue to read threads with this topic, get yourself annoyed, and every other post diminish/dismiss what those who are not accepting what you accept?

That is the very definition of insanity, doing the same thing and expecting different results.

Funny thing is, far stranger misleading things have happened in history and disbeleivers said it couldn't/wouldn't happen, only for that thing to happen in various iterations.

I'll bet if anyone had warned, "Hey, you know what? Be careful cuz that Hannibal guy is really determined and he just might come across those mountains on elephants!"

The Romans would've looked at that person as if they were crazy.

"Hey, that Joan gal seems pretty upset. I think she just might burn herself at the stake!"

"Hey, that Hitler guy seems pretty determined."

"Hey, let's go to the moon! Nah, we can do it!"

"Hey, let's build a city in the desert and it'll be for gambling!"

"Hey, let's use this spoiled cheese for something!"

"Hey, let's drop out of college and start a company that will revolutionize the way information gets around the world!"

"Be careful, someone might hide an army in a fake giraffe, sneak in and jump us!"

"Hey, if I put this engine thingy into this box mebbe I can make a smaller transport device. We'll call the first one Model A."

"Hey, has anyone seen Christopher? That idiot thinks the Queen's gonna give him money to travel. Everyone knows the earth is flat. What a douche!"

"An Austrian born governor of California? Seriously?"

"Benjamin, wtf are you doing with that kite and key??? It's raining!"

Just sayin

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^ you big conspiracy theorist, you. next you'll be claiming that the sun doesn't rotate around the earth. or that the US govmint didn't conduct experiments in tuskegee on syphilitic black men or that MK Ultra isn't real. what are you, ???

herb4 said:

XxAxX said:

^ you big conspiracy theorist, you. next you'll be claiming that the sun doesn't rotate around the earth. or that the US govmint didn't conduct experiments in tuskegee on syphilitic black men or that MK Ultra isn't real. what are you, ???

How's about these:

"Hey, when I grow up I'm gonna build a big huge place with the most modern recording studio, offices, an indoor basketball court, my own stage and room for prople to come see me play...and it'll be in Minnesota!"

"I'm gonna travel all over the world and play my music to huge crowds of people of all ethnicities and they'll all sing along and party until dawn!"

"I'm gonna have the most gorgeous women as my girlfriends! They won't necessarily be talented in any tangible way, or be able to sing or anything, but they'll be stunning!"

"I'm gonna win an Oscar!"

"I'm gonna be a legend!"

XxAxX said:

^ the clothing thing really bothers me too. Prince did not carry things in his pockets. he didn't even wear clothing with pockets, to the best of my knowledge, and this is something referred to by others. i think when this mystery is solved, the scenario will begin to unravel..

With all due respect, I find we cannot say things like "Prince did this" or "Prince didn't do that". We were not privvy to Prince as a human being going about his daily life. And yes, Prince did wear clothes with pockets.

https://www.youtube.com/w...UVZW6-rZKw

Minute 9.

MMJas said:

XxAxX said:

^ the clothing thing really bothers me too. Prince did not carry things in his pockets. he didn't even wear clothing with pockets, to the best of my knowledge, and this is something referred to by others. i think when this mystery is solved, the scenario will begin to unravel..

With all due respect, I find we cannot say things like "Prince did this" or "Prince didn't do that". We were not privvy to Prince as a human being going about his daily life. And yes, Prince did wear clothes with pockets.

https://www.youtube.com/w...UVZW6-rZKw

Minute 9.

good point. we did not *know* prince personally. but this discussion refers to what he was wearing (allegedly) when found deceased.

as to the youtube clip- you're referring to the vest? i'd like to stand corrected, all things considered, but in that clip he is wearing a vest with pockets. his pants show no pocketage.

which is not to say i'm correct, but the furry vest with pockets doesn't convvince me that he wore traditional style pants with pockets, nor that he would have died with a bottle of pills stuffed in his pants pockets... thanks for listening

MMJas said:

With all due respect, I find we cannot say things like "Prince did this" or "Prince didn't do that". We were not privvy to Prince as a human being going about his daily life.

Very much agree with this and it was worthy to note it, because it's easy to state these things. I've done that myself...but you are right, we really do not know how he was in his private life...or at least we know very little of it.

XxAxX said:

MMJas said:

With all due respect, I find we cannot say things like "Prince did this" or "Prince didn't do that". We were not privvy to Prince as a human being going about his daily life. And yes, Prince did wear clothes with pockets.

https://www.youtube.com/w...UVZW6-rZKw

Minute 9.

good point. we did not *know* prince personally. but this discussion refers to what he was wearing (allegedly) when found deceased.

as to the youtube clip- you're referring to the vest? i'd like to stand corrected, all things considered, but in that clip he is wearing a vest with pockets. his pants show no pocketage.

which is not to say i'm correct, but the furry vest with pockets doesn't convvince me that he wore traditional style pants with pockets, nor that he would have died with a bottle of pills stuffed in his pants pockets... thanks for listening

Several folks since 4/21 have mentioned P not wearing pockets, most notably Morris Hayes in the recent GQ article.

Apparently "P never had pockets and didn't carry a wallet or credit cards so he'd would carry $100 bill in his hand to buy coffee at Caribou Coffee and not wait for change cuz he had no pockets to put change in".

I also thought about seeing him wearing pants with pockets and suits with pockets, but apparently he stopped for whatever reason and people around him noticed it enough to say he "never had pockets".

[Edited 12/3/16 12:11pm]

LBrent said:

XxAxX said:

good point. we did not *know* prince personally. but this discussion refers to what he was wearing (allegedly) when found deceased.

as to the youtube clip- you're referring to the vest? i'd like to stand corrected, all things considered, but in that clip he is wearing a vest with pockets. his pants show no pocketage.

which is not to say i'm correct, but the furry vest with pockets doesn't convvince me that he wore traditional style pants with pockets, nor that he would have died with a bottle of pills stuffed in his pants pockets... thanks for listening

Several folks since 4/21 have mentioned P not wearing pockets, most notably Morris Hayes in the recent GQ article.

Apparently "P never had pockets and didn't carry a wallet or credit cards so he'd would carry $100 bill in his hand to buy coffee at Caribou Coffee and not wait for change cuz he had no pockets to put change in".

I also thought about seeing him wearing pants with pockets and suits with pockets, but apparently he stopped for whatever reason and people around him noticed it enough to say he "never had pockets".

[Edited 12/3/16 12:11pm]

Stick with what your eyes have told you, if there was nothing in the pants pockets you wouldn't even know he had pockets in them. Without actually checking for yourself, it's hard to know for sure. I did see what Morris said, but....not sure we can take off-hand remarks as written in stone (and we do KNOW he did have them because we saw them...) We've sure seen enough pics of him to know isn't true that he NEVER had pockets, so it is an exaggeration to say he never did.

Mumio said:

LBrent said:

Several folks since 4/21 have mentioned P not wearing pockets, most notably Morris Hayes in the recent GQ article.

Apparently "P never had pockets and didn't carry a wallet or credit cards so he'd would carry $100 bill in his hand to buy coffee at Caribou Coffee and not wait for change cuz he had no pockets to put change in".

I also thought about seeing him wearing pants with pockets and suits with pockets, but apparently he stopped for whatever reason and people around him noticed it enough to say he "never had pockets".

[Edited 12/3/16 12:11pm]

Stick with what your eyes have told you, if there was nothing in the pants pockets you wouldn't even know he had pockets in them. Without actually checking for yourself, it's hard to know for sure. I did see what Morris said, but....not sure we can take off-hand remarks as written in stone (and we do KNOW he did have them because we saw them...) We've sure seen enough pics of him to know isn't true that he NEVER had pockets, so it is an exaggeration to say he never did.

I'd have gladly volunteered to frisk him to be sure...You know...for scientific research purposes.

Stop looking at me like that!

Mumio said:

LBrent said:

Several folks since 4/21 have mentioned P not wearing pockets, most notably Morris Hayes in the recent GQ article.

Apparently "P never had pockets and didn't carry a wallet or credit cards so he'd would carry $100 bill in his hand to buy coffee at Caribou Coffee and not wait for change cuz he had no pockets to put change in".

I also thought about seeing him wearing pants with pockets and suits with pockets, but apparently he stopped for whatever reason and people around him noticed it enough to say he "never had pockets".

[Edited 12/3/16 12:11pm]

Stick with what your eyes have told you, if there was nothing in the pants pockets you wouldn't even know he had pockets in them. Without actually checking for yourself, it's hard to know for sure. I did see what Morris said, but....not sure we can take off-hand remarks as written in stone (and we do KNOW he did have them because we saw them...) We've sure seen enough pics of him to know isn't true that he NEVER had pockets, so it is an exaggeration to say he never did.

oaky. fair enough, i stand corrected. no more assumptions about prince's, erm, backend pockets

LBrent said:

Mumio said:

Stick with what your eyes have told you, if there was nothing in the pants pockets you wouldn't even know he had pockets in them. Without actually checking for yourself, it's hard to know for sure. I did see what Morris said, but....not sure we can take off-hand remarks as written in stone (and we do KNOW he did have them because we saw them...) We've sure seen enough pics of him to know isn't true that he NEVER had pockets, so it is an exaggeration to say he never did.

I'd have gladly volunteered to frisk him to be sure...You know...for scientific research purposes.

Stop looking at me like that!

no need to call security, Prince, jusssst checking for pockets man. checking for pockets

Mumio said:

MMJas said:

XxAxX said:

^ the clothing thing really bothers me too. Prince did not carry things in his pockets. he didn't even wear clothing with pockets, to the best of my knowledge, and this is something referred to by others. i think when this mystery is solved, the scenario will begin to unravel..

With all due respect, I find we cannot say things like "Prince did this" or "Prince didn't do that". We were not privvy to Prince as a human being going about his daily life. And yes, Prince did wear clothes with pockets.

https://www.youtube.com/w...UVZW6-rZKw

Minute 9.

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Very true! It's quite possible that Prince wore pants with pockets and without pockets on different days, depending on his schedule and what he was doing. Personally, I own several pairs of pants/jeans and some have pockets, and some do not.

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All the reports stated that Prince had a bottle of pills on his person (in his back pocket), and if his pants were on backwards, then that would mean the pills were actually found in the front pocket.

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laurarichardson said:

Mumio said:

Stick with what your eyes have told you, if there was nothing in the pants pockets you wouldn't even know he had pockets in them. Without actually checking for yourself, it's hard to know for sure. I did see what Morris said, but....not sure we can take off-hand remarks as written in stone (and we do KNOW he did have them because we saw them...) We've sure seen enough pics of him to know isn't true that he NEVER had pockets, so it is an exaggeration to say he never did.

--- Morris made a point of mentioning that he gave that change to the cashier that would have been around 90.00 dollars just because he did not have pockets. This is something that would stick in a person's mind and Morris was around for over 20 years as the longest band member.

Exactly!

And yet he had pockets as recent as Musicology in those suits, both big pockets in the jackets and in the trousers.

As a matter of fact I noticed him walking with his hands specifically in the tailored trouser pockets, sooo...

But not having pockets might've been a more recent thing cuz the yoga pants don't leave much room for much of anything in them so I guess pockets had to be left out???

Dunno.

LBrent said:

Mumio said:

Stick with what your eyes have told you, if there was nothing in the pants pockets you wouldn't even know he had pockets in them. Without actually checking for yourself, it's hard to know for sure. I did see what Morris said, but....not sure we can take off-hand remarks as written in stone (and we do KNOW he did have them because we saw them...) We've sure seen enough pics of him to know isn't true that he NEVER had pockets, so it is an exaggeration to say he never did.

I'd have gladly volunteered to frisk him to be sure...You know...for scientific research purposes.

Stop looking at me like that!

Girl, you know damn well I'd have held him for you! I'd have needed to do a second check though...just in case

laurarichardson said:

Mumio said:

Stick with what your eyes have told you, if there was nothing in the pants pockets you wouldn't even know he had pockets in them. Without actually checking for yourself, it's hard to know for sure. I did see what Morris said, but....not sure we can take off-hand remarks as written in stone (and we do KNOW he did have them because we saw them...) We've sure seen enough pics of him to know isn't true that he NEVER had pockets, so it is an exaggeration to say he never did.

--- Morris made a point of mentioning that he gave that change to the cashier that would have been around 90.00 dollars just because he did not have pockets. This is something that would stick in a person's mind and Morris was around for over 20 years as the longest band member.

Yeah but: not sure we can take off-hand remarks as written in stone (and we do KNOW he did have them because we saw them...). And Morris is a guy....and guys aren't really known for paying attention to details like that all that well. Not saying he didn't say nor believe what he said, but what we've all seen can't be discounted either.

Mumio said:

LBrent said:

I'd have gladly volunteered to frisk him to be sure...You know...for scientific research purposes.

Stop looking at me like that!

Girl, you know damn well I'd have held him for you! I'd have needed to do a second check though...just in case

Completely understandable.

Don't forget xXAXx might need to triple check him, too...Just in case.

It pays to be thorough...Security protocol and all.