MuleFunk said:

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As to your question here about was Prince murdered?

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When the Moline incident was announced I will admit that I was stunned that it was due to an OD however it was not shocking because anyone who is a long time member of this site knows that rumours of hip and joint problems have been around for at least 13 years or longer. When it was announced that he OD and died I thought at first that he mixed cold meds with these meds and it took him away. It was only after the June "leak" about clothes being on backwards and a Vicodin pill that was actually Fentanyl did I start to think that this could have been a possible assassination. I will say that I am only saying that it is an remote chance that this occured but it has to be included in the realm of possibility. There would be no need to a person with the means of Prince to have to get counterfeit meds.

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Throw in the targeted "leaking" of news at EVERY positive Prince event that's a key indicator that an operation occured.

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When I heard about Prince's OD in Moline, I was concerned, but a few days later when the headlines read "Prince Dead at Age 57", I was very, VERY suspicious!!

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We keep getting fed tidbits of what happened. They are trying to confuse us. This is the age of misinformation and disinformation. I don't think we will ever know the truth of what really happened to Prince, sadly.

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I said the very same thing -- Prince had the money to pay for the best doctors, the best treatment and medication -- why would he need to get conterfeit pills off the street?!

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You don't have a music career spanning 40-years being a drug-addict!!

http://www.thewrap.com/tmz-pay-prince-death-scoop/

Here's an interesting tid bit

I might also add that the hospital in Moline as well as the EMT's still have not commented on the

incident . The hospital says that Prince was not seen there and the EMT's cannot confirm that they

were summoned to the airport for Prince. NOTHING was confirmed. You hear bits and pieces about

Moline but not much commenting on that part of the story. TMZ came up with that. The plane might

have landed there and Prince and KJ and Judith could have gone to dinner or an after party and left

the next morning for Minneapolis. Maybe that is why P was upset, because the media (TMZ) was

spreading sh....uff that wasn't true. GOOGLE IT!!

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I think you are onto something Mumio.

All of their versions are the same. Do you think they are got together on a conference call to get their stories straight and they all did it on April 21?

Like I said before we know he was seeing a doctor for withdrawals this has never been kept from the public and we now have two people Andrian and the Atlanta promotor who have said that Prince told them he was not a 100% and was going to go and see Dr. S when he got back to MN so he could let them know about upcoming concert dates.

It does not sound to me like someone who thinks they are going to die. It sounds like someone seeing a doctor for a medical problem and maybe not sure why he is struggling to get better or not knowing what is wrong now. We know withdrawals can go on as long as a year but he must have felt well enought to travel, perform and continue handling his affairs in what appears to a seemless manner.

I still think he had no idea until Moline that he was seriously ill. The last week of his life we no very llittle about and I am sure things started taking a turn for the purpose.

Laura, I think you misunderstood my comment. I was not referring to those who knew him.

zenarose said:

NotACleverName said:

zenarose said:

I might also add that the hospital in Moline as well as the EMT's still have not commented on the incident. The hospital says that Prince was not seen there and the EMT's cannot confirm that they were summoned to the airport for Prince. NOTHING was confirmed. You hear bits and pieces about Moline but not much commenting on that part of the story. TMZ came up with that. The plane might have landed there and Prince and KJ and Judith could have gone to dinner or an after party and left the next morning for Minneapolis. Maybe that is why P was upset, because the media (TMZ) was spreading sh....uff that wasn't ture. GOOGLE IT!!

This could be why medical personnel are not talking....we are all protected by the universal HIPAA laws via the Privacy Rule: The Privacy Rule, a Federal law, gives you rights over your health information and sets rules and limits on who can look at and receive your health information. The Privacy Rule applies to all forms of individuals' protected health information, whether electronic, written, or oral. The Security Rule is a Federal law that requires security for health information in electronic form. The following link details an individual's rights: https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa...consumers/ I would imagine, in the absence of Prince providing "access" (permission) to the media, they have had to resort to "anonymous sources" to glean information about the Moline incident. Access Only you or your personal representative has the right to access your records. A health care provider or health plan may send copies of your records to another provider or health plan only as needed for treatment or payment or with your permission. Info found here: http://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/...l-records/ Lest we forget, Judith Hill did talk about the hospital visit: http://www.nytimes.com/20....html?_r=0 Why would she fabricate such an outlandish story? How would that serve her in her career, and life, in general?

I am NOT a complete idiot. I know the HIPPA laws very well. My point was.... that absolutely NOTHING has been confirmed about anything. The ONLY thing that we know for sure still at this point is from a Media Release from the Medical Examiner....Cause of Death was from "self administered fentanyl toxicity". Any other information that has been put out has never been confirmed as ALL reports are from unofficial official sources. I am not going to rehash this with you. You forgot our agreement. JUST SCROLL ON BY

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phatphuk said:

muleFunk said:

I gave you answers that were explained in very logical,easy to follow terms.

Now if you don't want to go to a private Prince FB page to have discussion mano e mano fine but I am not playing games here.

You gave me answers? When? Somehow, I missed the one to this multiple-choice question, muleFunk my friend…

…How do you rate FaceBook's veracity as a source of information? Greater Than? — Less Than? — or Equal To gossip columns?…

Sorry mi amigo. I can't see you and I ever having a productive conversation. I foresee nothing but me getting super.duper frustrated by you consistently either evading my questions — {the way you evaded the one I just asked a second time} — or answering my simple, straightforward, yes-or-no questions with circuitously defensive questions fired back at me. Thanks. But no thanks, muleFunk. I already have way more productive outlets for frittering away my free time.

However. If you can convince me that you really do know who I am, by naming — ri'chere in this thread — either…

1. any one of the three colleges I went to?
   
   
2. what my degree is in?
   
   
3. which state I'm from?
   
   
4. the first jobbing band I played in?
   
   
5. my middle initial?

All the above info on me, is already out there somewhere on the internet under my "non-prince.org name". Just reveal any two of them, then I will be forced to reconsider your private FaceBook discussion invitation.

I'm dead serious, muleFunk. If you're half the sleuth you'd like prince.org to believe you are, I'm hereby giving you permission to reveal, "who I really am". And if you're wrong, then that might be a good reason for you to to honor your word of a few weeks ago.

We're all waiting for you to impress us, muleFunk P.I., my good man. Good luck ; د )

No one has evaded your questions nor am I trying to make anyone believe ANYTHING.

I put my point of view on the subject at hand. I have answered your questions.

If I frustrate you IGNORE and stop screenshotting my posts.

Now there are several private Prince Facebook pages in which you can join and we can see who you are and you can see who I am and we can further discuss this. If not go back to trolling .

I've already told you, dude. I don't do "gossip column" websites like FaceBook. So let's not — but just say we did ; د )

Q: How do the petty assuage their bruised egos, when they're floundering in a discussion on the internet — and they find themselves at a loss for any other intellegient, face-saving rebuttal?

A: They petulantly call the other person in the discussion a, "Troll".

Orginal? No. Typical? You'd better believe it! Usually any truth to the libelous accusation?

This thread...It's about Prince's death, right?

Dibblekins said:

This thread...It's about Prince's death, right?

Hey DIBBS: the title states Death, Theories, and Pills seized at PP contained illicit Fentanyl.

So yes the thread is about P's death. There is another thread for different perspectives concerning his

death that go deeper than the illicit fenanyl.

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This is so incredibly sad!! Amazing how now "Fentanyl" is being linked to Prince's name.

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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/k-9-dogs-overdose-fentanyl-drug-killed-prince-n687611

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oliviacamron said:

Does anyone ever remember reading about 3 Russians with briefcases being St Paisley Park on the evening on April 20 th? It was a really stupid tabloid but now that Adrian CRUTCHFIELD mentions Prince performed for a rich Russian dude on New Years eve it makes me . There is one article I found today on someonesbones.com that said Prince was supposed to play a benefit in Russia in June and they said Prince was a political activist there in Russia. The article also says the Russians probably killed Prince . I can't post the link. I wonder if these dots can connect to Warner dots.

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OMG!! Just when you think things could not get any worse!!

oliviacamron said:

Does anyone ever remember reading about 3 Russians with briefcases being St Paisley Park on the evening on April 20 th? It was a really stupid tabloid but now that Adrian CRUTCHFIELD mentions Prince performed for a rich Russian dude on New Years eve it makes me . There is one article I found today on someonesbones.com that said Prince was supposed to play a benefit in Russia in June and they said Prince was a political activist there in Russia. The article also says the Russians probably killed Prince . I can't post the link. I wonder if these dots can connect to Warner dots.

I've been doing some reading about these Russian dudes. Alexander Litvinenko was murdered by Polonium poisoning. The wife had his death investigated, and that's how they found out. You don't want to mess with Russia. Putin is scary!! I wish Trump all the luck in the world!!

cloveringold85 said:

Putin is scary!! I wish Trump all the luck in the world!!

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You forget to mention that Barry simply drones his countryman without a decent trial.

But that is not important now.

Dos we have any idea about the police investigation? Where they are? What they found? (who dunnit?)

If the scales on your eyes — caused by all that FaceBook gossip — ever fall off, muley my good man, here's a little Symbiosis 101 for your edification…

Introduction to Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice…

And for extry credit…

The Symbiotic, But Conflicted Relationship Between Law Enforcement and the Media: A Case Study…

I gotta tell ya, muley — it's pretty remarkable that you claim to work with cops, yet your comments above suggest that you have no knowledge of this basic topic taught in criminology 101 courses all over the country. Mark my words, muley. You're gonna wake up one day and realize you've been putting too much faith in getting an education through FaceBook, and not spending enough time on seeking real knowledge ; د )

phatphuk said:

muleFunk said:

If this would have been a regular OD this would have been over and done with in May.

Instead you were given information fed to you vis a vis gossip columns.

Since his passing you have heard stories about the charities and good deeds Prince has performed yet each meaningful date you have a piece of information thrown out there just to get you to think that this was a drug addicted rock star. His birthday almost 6 weeks after his death there was a release of information on the autopsy. Why ? The police knew that there was a fake pill.

Who released the info? The police don't have leakers to spread info to fake press sites.

If a person connected to law enforecement was discovered to have leaked infomation they would face both criminal prosecution and the loss of a job.

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If the scales on your eyes — caused by all that FaceBook gossip — ever fall off, muley my good man, here's a little Symbiosis 101 for your edification…

Introduction to Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice…

Introduction to Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice

By Kären M. Hess, Christine Hess Orthmann

Partnerships with the Media The Media can be a powerful ally or a formidable opponent in implementing the community policing philosophy. The press can shape public opinion, and most police agencies are concerned about their public iimage. Positive publicity can enhance both the image and the efforts of a department. Conversely, negative publicity can be extremely damaging. Therefore, police agencies can and should make every effort to build positive working partnerships with the media.

The police and the media share a symbiotic relationship; they are mutually dependent on each other. The police and members of the media share the common goal of serving the public.

Police departments and individual officers rely on the press to disseminate vital public safety information to the community and to reach out to the community for help in solving cases. At the same tiime, reporters rely on the police for information to provide their readers and viewers. Administrators know that crime and police activities are covered by the media regardless of whether the police provide reporters with information. Most police departments understand that the level of police cooperation with the media will ultimately affect how the public views the police.

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And for extry credit…

The Symbiotic, But Conflicted Relationship Between Law Enforcement and the Media: A Case Study…

The Symbiotic, But Conflicted Relationship Between Law Enforcement and the Media: A Case Study

Pati Hendrickson and Howard Swindle

Abstract Police officers and journalists share a legacy of mutual distrust. However, when some police officers believe that the criminal justice system has been thwarted or extorted by colleagues, they sometimes risk their careers and perhaps even their lives to “leak,” or provide confidential information to the media. This paper presents and explores an overview of this conflicted relationship, as well as providing successful case study depictions of this “last-resort relationship” between the two professions.

The mutually advantageous results of this synergy, however, do not occur as frequently as they might because of two primary factors. First, police almost always choose to cooperate and share information with journalists only after conventional means of solving crime and resolving police problems have been thwarted. Secondly, perhaps ironically, a legacy of suspicion undermines the trust between the two professions that ostensibly share the same mission, i.e., the relentless pursuit of facts, unwavering impartiality, and service to community. More often than not then, these two professions unite for common purpose as a last resort.

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I gotta tell ya, muley — it's pretty remarkable that you claim to work with cops, yet your comments above suggest that you have no knowledge of this basic topic taught in criminology 101 courses all over the country. Mark my words, muley. You're gonna wake up one day and realize you've been putting too much faith in getting an education through FaceBook, and not spending enough time on seeking real knowledge ; د )

I have 24 years of experience in Criminal Justice and law.

I teach Criminology and Criminal Justice.

I stand by what I say.

The judge in this case put a gag order out to keep information from getting out to the press.

If the Judge hadn't done this then I could see the police OFFICIALLY coming to the press to make a statement.If a judge put a gag order on this I seriously DOUBT that someone would break it.

Remember one "leak" by "sources" close to law enforcement stated that Prince OD on Percocets which was INCORRECT.

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muleFunk said:

Another thing to the FatFucker

If you want to bullshit here that's fine but Facebook is more legit than this page that has authors and lawyers asking fans for information to fill books.

Come over join one and then call me out. You can PM me over there. So we can see who you are and you can see my credentials.

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This is so incredibly sad!! Amazing how now "Fentanyl" is being linked to Prince's name.

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http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/k-9-dogs-overdose-fentanyl-drug-killed-prince-n687611

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Damn! All of this info coming out is getting more crazy by the day!! Geeze, the way things are looking now, there might be several people, or maybe even a dozen people who might be going to jail!! But, then again, maybe no one will ever be charged with the involvement of Prince's murder (I mean, alleged murder). We've all seen that happen before.

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muleFunk said:

I have 24 years of experience in Criminal Justice and law.

I teach Criminology and Criminal Justice.

I stand by what I say.

The judge in this case put a gag order out to keep information from getting out to the press.

If the Judge hadn't done this then I could see the police OFFICIALLY coming to the press to make a statement.If a judge put a gag order on this I seriously DOUBT that someone would break it.

Remember one "leak" by "sources" close to law enforcement stated that Prince OD on Percocets which was INCORRECT.

Splitting hairs over a misprint, is not a good look on an academic, muley.

Now, what would be academically appropriate, would be for you to provide citations — {links to pages} — that support your claims of, "The judge in this case put a gag order out". So please? Point us to a link that supports that? And thanks in advance.

Otherwise, if you can't do that one simple request that responsible academics with any integrity do as a routine matter of course, then you would be giving creedance to that old adage that goes something like, "Those who can't do…" — I think you know the rest ; د )

I will believe that you stand by what you say, when you stand by what you said a few weeks ago that you would not do anymore, muley good buddy.

[Incidentally — How's your "I know who you are, phatpuck" sleuthing operations coming along so far? Gotten any warmer since last time?]

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Carver County District Court:

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All the docs are right here:

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http://www.mncourts.gov/I...elson.aspx

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cloveringold85 said: