nelcp777 said:

precioux said:

A PRIME example of this is Lenny Kravitz. I adore Lenny and know he was very close to P. On the day of P's death, Lenny was interviewed and said something along the line that he figured this would happen....what I find curious is the fact that the ones that said even as little as that much either didn't participate in any sort of tribute or weren't invited to by the family..I have no clue which way that fell, or if it's mere coincidence....but I highly doubt it.

I doubt it too. Lenny Kravitz may have had to get it off his chest. People deal with things differently. Prince's inner camp will maintain their silence. They have all along in the past.

I do not think it is coincidence either, but Manuela made remarks in regards to Charlie Sheen comparison with Prince and she was still invited.

The family has kept this tightly sealed. I believe over time, some will talk. I do not see Kirk or Meron talking, nor Tyka.

That may be the answer right there....maybe Lenny CHOSE not to participate, KNOWING what really went down.

precioux said:

oliviacamron said:

precioux said:

That may be the answer right there....maybe Lenny CHOSE not to participate, KNOWING what really went down.

A long with all other possibilities, it could be that Prince thought what happened to Michael Jackson might happen to him. Maybe Prince told his friends.

I completely agree that Prince told his friends...what Lenny said, and Dez said P called him a few weeks before, "out of the blue", and what they discussed, Dez said "he would take to his grave".

laurarichardson said:

1) Maybe he did not have a drug problem two years ago and the conversation he had with Tyka has something to do with his health? Maybe the conversation he had with Apples in 2014 about jubilant Judases in his house had something to do with his health? Maybe a half a dozen people saying we do not know the whole story is some comment on his health. Remember chronic pain is a health issue.

You could be right - maybe he didn't. Maybe he was just taking pain meds for pain two years ago because according to you, he's had pain for years and the pain pills he's been taking for all that time took their toll and caused organ damage. Maybe. Maybe the conversation he had with Apples about Jubilant Judas had absolutely nothing to do with his death and everything to do with people using him for personal gain - I don't recall that conversation ever being tied to his death. The half dozen people talking about the "whole story" as I have said before is such a broad subject - it will be interesting to see if we ever get an explanation of that. The possibilities are endless just like this thread.

2) “And you're right, I DONT know if any such conversation took place between Tyka and Prince and if you bother to read what I actually wrote instead of being on the defensive, you would see that I say it "could" have”

Then why bring it up at all? It is you bringing in some situation of an intervention that we have no way of knowing took place. It is a fantasy situation.

No more of a fantasy situation than some of the fantasy situations that you have thrown out there. These situations happen in real life whether you want to believe it or not so they are not fantasies. I am offering possibilities just as you have done with the organ failure. Why are any of us bringing up ANY possibiities? Because we have a need to understand.

3) “I have never, ever said that P was taking these meds for the joy of it. I've always believed they began for pain relief. “

I did not state that you made any statement about him being a recreational drug user but you seem to have left out any information about his being in pain which, is happening a lot on this board. Being in pain is a health issue.

You also like most people don’t seem to have answer to what a person would do if they got off pain meds and still had pain?

Reply #22 you stated the following regarding Prince "I do not believe for one minute he was taking pain pills for kicks and grins." and since the last few pages of this thread are regarding the use of pain pills, I am assuming that you are referring to posts made by myself and others.

Information regarding his being in pain - well, that seems to be as subjective as anything else as most reports have come from some of his associates such as Tavis Smiley, Sheila E and a few others, but real solid proof, like medical records, hospitalizations for anything other than dehydration - yea, you don't have solid proof of that either.

What would a person do if they off the pain meds and still had pain? Good question. There are other meds out there that are not opiate based to help with pain and perhaps, some orgers that may be taking them could help us with that info. I can personally tell you that I know of a doctor who is now prescribing his patients gabapentin in lieu of pain meds. There are pain management doctors who also put their patients in physical therapy and other alternative treatments to help manage pain. Do you have information that P was practicing alternate treatments or was he treating his pain only with pain meds?

4) “What boggles my mind is that you believe that he was totally clean prior to the fatal overdose, that he was in withdrawal. If that were the case, why would he even need to go? “

Well it should boggle your mind because I never said he was totally clean prior to his overdose on meds that were mislabeled and have already been established that these drugs were not in his system prior to the last 24 hours.

The truth of the matter is people don’t go under a doctor’s care for withdrawals if they do not want to get off of drugs. Being in withdrawals would mean you are withdrawing or do you think it means something else?

From what I have read patients who do these outpatient withdrawal treatments often are trying to step down there pain pill use. He could have been using the something to step down from whatever he wanted to get off of.

LR, you repeatedly, over and over, state that P did not have these drugs in his system 24 hours prior. I am guessing that you have been priveleged to see this information in his medical file? I took that statement to be directly related to the fentanyl. As in there was no evidence that the FENTANYL was in his system 24 hours prior. Not surprizing - I don't think he was using fentanyl - I think the pill(s) just prior to his passing were LACED with fentanyl.

What do you not understand about the fatal pills? They looked like Vicodin. He thougt he was taking VICODIN. They weren't mislabled, they were counterfeit!

People do go under a doctor's care for withdrawal involuntarily - but I don't think that's what was going on with P. I think he was fully aware and was agreeable to it. Being in withdrawal is the process of not using ANY opiate until all opiates are gone from your system. Once you have gotten through withdrawal, you have begun recovery but with opiates, the chance you will stay in recovery without the assistance of other medications to ease the symptoms of withdrawal are minimal.

We do not know what P was on in Atlanta or when that plane landed in Moline. The only way to know would be to look at his medical file from the hospital. (Evidently the ME does not think it was Fentanyl because they are saying he was not a long time user and it was not in his system before the 24 hours)

We do know from Andrew’s conversation with him before he went to Atlanta that he was planning on seeing his doctor when he got back and we know he told the promoter in Atlanta the same thing because he wanted to hold off on announcing additional concerts. He was keeping in touch with Dr. S and I believe it was to monitor his progress with the withdrawals.

We don’t know what he is was doing between Saturday and Wednesday as far as drugs or legitmate Rx’s. Shit we do not even know where a so-called “gravely ill’ person went to for most of the day only returning to Paisley Park at 8:00 that night.

Ah, Dr. S and those prescriptions. They could have been for something as simple as blood pressure meds, thyroid meds, cholesterol meds OR maybe the doc was giving him something like clonazapam to help with the withdrawal symptoms. Or, maybe he was having trouble sleeping as was discussed the other day - maybe he prescribed him ambien and Prince was in a hypnotic state when he put his clothes on backward and took the fatal pill. Do I believe that? Not outside the realm of possibility. And who said he was gravely "ill"? I thought that it was a grave situation.

I would love it if you would answer may questions and stop with this defensive nonsense. There is nothing defensive about asking questions.

There's my answers - now go ahead and pick them apart because I am sure that is where you are going.

You also need to listen to the podcast because Mr. Crutchfield has a lot of knowledge about drug use and he did spend time working with Prince from November 2015 to February 2016. Right in the time frame that things start to change in his appearance. All total Andrew worked with Prince for four years.

I'll do just that this evening.

How many people do you think are capable of looking someone in the face for years and not notice that they are on something?

Seriously, I almost fell off my chair on this one. Let me just tell you, with opiates it can be a whole lot. People will reason those signs away with so many other explanations you just wouldn't imagine. I've seen it - some people wouldn't recognize it if it was written on their forehead. And since you've been bringing up associates and what they've had to say, let's not forget Jill Jones and her saying something to the effect of she knew something was off or that he was taking something.

What are the chances that dozens of people did not notice. Do you realize that estates cannot sue for defamation? That the tabs have been looking for dirt from 7 months ago and all we see his old news and nothing about drugs. Does any of this make sense to you?

Tabloids? I give 0 thought or notice to anything that they have to say.

CooperC62057 said:

laurarichardson said: First of all, when I mentioned that perhaps he didn't feel he had a problem, I wasn't referring to the days or weeks before he passed. I was referring to perhaps 2 years prior. And you're right, I DONT know if any such conversation took place between Tyka and Prince and if you bother to read what I actually wrote instead of being on the defensive, you would see that I say it "could" have. Unless YOU were personally there, you don't know either. And if you were taking time to really read what other people have to say, you'd also know that I have never, ever said that P was taking these meds for the joy of it. I've always believed they began for pain relief. What boggles my mind is that you believe that he was totally clean prior to the fatal overdose, that he was in withdrawal. If that were the case, why would he even need to go? As for Adrien Crutchfield and the podcast, I'll listen when I have a chance and try to be objective but I don't expect him to say anything different - P wasn't actively out there telling folks he was taking pain meds. [Edited 11/22/16 9:29am]

1) Maybe he did not have a drug problem two years ago and the conversation he had with Tyka has something to do with his health? Maybe the conversation he had with Apples in 2014 about jubilant Judases in his house had something to do with his health? Maybe a half a dozen people saying we do not know the whole story is some comment on his health. Remember chronic pain is a health issue.

2) “And you're right, I DONT know if any such conversation took place between Tyka and Prince and if you bother to read what I actually wrote instead of being on the defensive, you would see that I say it "could" have”

Then why bring it up at all? It is you bringing in some situation of an intervention that we have no way of knowing took place. It is a fantasy situation.

3) “I have never, ever said that P was taking these meds for the joy of it. I've always believed they began for pain relief. “

I did not state that you made any statement about him being a recreational drug user but you seem to have left out any information about his being in pain which, is happening a lot on this board. Being in pain is a health issue.

You also like most people don’t seem to have answer to what a person would do if they got off pain meds and still had pain?

4) “What boggles my mind is that you believe that he was totally clean prior to the fatal overdose, that he was in withdrawal. If that were the case, why would he even need to go? “

Well it should boggle your mind because I never said he was totally clean prior to his overdose on meds that were mislabeled and have already been established that these drugs were not in his system prior to the last 24 hours.

The truth of the matter is people don’t go under a doctor’s care for withdrawals if they do not want to get off of drugs. Being in withdrawals would mean you are withdrawing or do you think it means something else?

From what I have read patients who do these outpatient withdrawal treatments often are trying to step down there pain pill use. He could have been using the something to step down from whatever he wanted to get off of.

We do not know what P was on in Atlanta or when that plane landed in Moline. The only way to know would be to look at his medical file from the hospital. (Evidently the ME does not think it was Fentanyl because they are saying he was not a long time user and it was not in his system before the 24 hours)

We do know from Andrew’s conversation with him before he went to Atlanta that he was planning on seeing his doctor when he got back and we know he told the promoter in Atlanta the same thing because he wanted to hold off on announcing additional concerts. He was keeping in touch with Dr. S and I believe it was to monitor his progress with the withdrawals.

We don’t know what he is was doing between Saturday and Wednesday as far as drugs or legitmate Rx’s. Shit we do not even know where a so-called “gravely ill’ person went to for most of the day only returning to Paisley Park at 8:00 that night.

I would love it if you would answer may questions and stop with this defensive nonsense. There is nothing defensive about asking questions.

You also need to listen to the podcast because Mr. Crutchfield has a lot of knowledge about drug use and he did spend time working with Prince from November 2015 to February 2016. Right in the time frame that things start to change in his appearance. All total Andrew worked with Prince for four years.

How many people do you think are capable of looking someone in the face for years and not notice that they are on something?

What are the chances that dozens of people did not notice. Do you realize that estates cannot sue for defamation? That the tabs have been looking for dirt from 7 months ago and all we see his old news and nothing about drugs. Does any of this make sense to you?

paisleypearl said:

I just wish SOMEONE WOULD TELL US THE WHOLE STORY. To me he aged 20 years the last few months of his life. Why? Does this happen to all people addicted to Vicodin? Is it because of the long term effects of the drug on internal organs? Did he stop eating and drinking because he had no digestion? Just so much speculation and arguing going on, when the Truth could stop it all. Maybe if people knew what could happen to them they would refuse these types of pain pills unless they were faced with a terminal illness. And screw drug companies, by the way. I know it was the fentanyl that killed him, but his addiction brought it about. [Edited 11/22/16 9:23am]

I agree. He deterioated fast.

Mumio said:

1Sasha said:

I agree, Paisley. Just give us the facts. The legacy is intact. It always will be. A person would have had to be blind to not have seen the deterioration.

There are a great many people out there who would NOT be able to accept the truth. They've all been very busy coming up with their own versions of the truth.

I think you are onto something Mumio.

How ironic is this?…

Is that Jason Beckington Guy psychic? Or what?

phatphuk said:

precioux said:

oliviacamron said:

precioux said: A long with all other possibilities, it could be that Prince thought what happened to Michael Jackson might happen to him. Maybe Prince told his friends.

I completely agree that Prince told his friends...what Lenny said, and Dez said P called him a few weeks before, "out of the blue", and what they discussed, Dez said "he would take to his grave".

I am in complete agreement with you. Just for arguements sake, the last year, let's say, we see a more realistic Prince than before. I think what ever was going on, Price realized maybe he was in over his head. This is perhaps why he had such conversations. I am purely speculating, but this could also be caused by Denise's passing as well. But the thing with that is, during interviews, say with Mel B, Prince seemed to not think death as a negative, celebrate my death or something to that effect.

I truly believe that Prince would not want photos of him after his passing circulating. The Sheriff ensured that by staying with Prince till he was removed from PP (so I have read). The family also made sure with the quick cremation. If that was Prince's wishes, so be it. The last wishes of the dead have to be honered.

My curiousity wants to know what Lenny's conversation is, as it seems to have a lot of personal information. But in reality, I respect Lenny and keeping it to himself. Even Dez.

paisleypearl said:

phatphuk said:

How ironic is this?…

Is that Jason Beckington Guy psychic? Or what?

AND THE PLOT THICKENS [Edited 11/23/16 1:00am]

No the plot does not thicken. The I'll Do Anything project and my Little Pill are from a movie that Prince wrote music for. The pill song is in the plot of the film. The movie studio removed all of the music from the file and decided to have the actors sing. The movie with the actors singing tested poorly and the music was completing removed. The film was put out with no music at all and is actually a pretty good film.

You realize when you are paid to write music for a film you are going to write songs that follow the plot.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Mumio said:

There are a great many people out there who would NOT be able to accept the truth. They've all been very busy coming up with their own versions of the truth.

I think you are onto something Mumio.

All of their versions are the same. Do you think they are got together on a conference call to get their stories straight and they all did it on April 21?

Like I said before we know he was seeing a doctor for withdrawals this has never been kept from the public and we now have two people Andrian and the Atlanta promotor who have said that Prince told them he was not a 100% and was going to go and see Dr. S when he got back to MN so he could let them know about upcoming concert dates.

It does not sound to me like someone who thinks they are going to die. It sounds like someone seeing a doctor for a medical problem and maybe not sure why he is struggling to get better or not knowing what is wrong now. We know withdrawals can go on as long as a year but he must have felt well enought to travel, perform and continue handling his affairs in what appears to a seemless manner.

I still think he had no idea until Moline that he was seriously ill. The last week of his life we no very llittle about and I am sure things started taking a turn for the purpose.

nelcp777 said:

Mumio said:

But I am also willing to acknowledge that it really IS about protecting his legacy....because people are judgemental about many many things. It's really all about the person and his musical genius and what he left for us.

I agree with you. The silence is to protect Prince's legacy in my opinion. Which really I do not understand. If Prince was suffering from opiod dependency (regardless of whether it was from initial prescriptions or recreational), the family could use this to strenghen his legacy by adding another cause to rally against.

I do not see how this could hurt Prince's legacy. His genuis can not be argued amongst fans both hardcore and casual and Prince's peers.

If anything, his struggles could help fight this growing epidimic this country is facing. Just my 2 cents.

Unless of course other health issues were going on and they just want to protect his privacy or the family only became of aware of these issues after his death and are not really sure if it is appropriate to speak on. Give it some time they may come around.

Now, this article is a prime example of how rumors get started. I wish these journalists would not make claims that Prince was a "drug addict" (addicted to Fentanyl), when this is still an ongoing investigation, and we do not know this is fact!

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The writer says: "The world quickly learned that Prince was addicted to Fentanyl, one of the most powerful drugs in the world. " -- Okay, this is simply untrue! No one knows for sure if he was "addicted" to anything! Maybe he was addicted to music, but Fentanyl?

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Also, the writer states that Prince may have been getting Fentanyl prescribed under various friends names. So, basically this person, the writer, "Paul Resnikoff" is saying Prince had his friends getting prescriptions filled and giving the pills to Prince. Now, who in their right mind would ever do that? And, to even think for a second that someone was giving these pills to Prince -- how do they sleep at night? Do they have a conscience?

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These kinds of articles just make me shake my damn head!!

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http://www.digitalmusicne...als-death/

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[Edited 11/23/16 11:32am]

www.digitalmusicnews.com/2016/11/22prince-fentanyl-pharmaceuticals-death/

This article is about the legal Fentanyl business. What caught my eye was the statement that there is a rumor Prince was getting drugs through friends who procured them legally under their own names. I remember that one bottle with someone else's name was found at PP, but this statement is plural - more than one person providing to him.

I just posted on this. I didn't see your message.

1Sasha said:

I just posted on this. I didn't see your message.

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No problem. It happens.

Mistake

[Edited 11/23/16 12:37pm]

cloveringold85 said:

CooperC62057 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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No problem. It happens.

Rumors are just that. Now that ya'll know what I do believe, let me tell you what I don't. THIS ARTICLE.

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Yea, it's a bunch of BS.

1Sasha said:

CooperC62057 said:

laurarichardson said:

CooperC62057 said:

Didn't I tell you a couple of weeks ago that these new articles would be strategically released to coincide with an event connected with Prince???

laurarichardson said:

CooperC62057 said:

So, the prescription in someone else's name was for OxyContin. Still not proof that they were being taken by Prince. As for the pills marked as Watson's, it states at least one contained fentanyl. It would be interesting to know how many contained fentanyl. Just the fact that any of them were labeled that tells us they were illegally produced as those are no longer manufactured.

-- But did you read the part that said no Fentenyl was found in his system from test ran the prior day. Prince was not a Fentenyl addict. I also question all the different drugs in his living quarters. If he was taking all those pills he would not have been able to walk. Whole thing is crazy. They also mention non-controlled substances and we know Dr. S wrote him Rxs for non/controlled substances. Once again I don't think P knew what he was taking that on that day and I do not think he went to the doctor to have test to see if his system was clear from Subxone the next day. I don't even know if he knew Dr. K son was coming because if he was taking a real Watson would that have not caused a problem with the treatment Dr K son was bringing? Do you still think you know what is going on? Do you still think he had a army of friends getting him pills with their names on the bottles who have not been arrested? [Edited 11/23/16 15:05pm]

I think you really misread me. I absolutely have never thought that Prince was a fentanyl addict. I don't disagree that the fentanyl was not in his system the day prior. I believe that the "Watson" pills were all counterfeit since the manufacturer of that particular brand has not produced that particular pill for a few years. Thus, I am curious to know out of all the "Watson" pills, did they all contain some amount of fentanyl or were some void of this substance? Just a curiosity since these pills that are created by less than legit folks can vary from pill to pill with contents.

As I said earlier, it's possible that he may have had xanax, although he didn't have a script, it's fairly easy to obtain. Doesn't mean he took it regularly, although didn't I read somewhere that it was in his system? Again, correct me if I am wrong. He also could have had a variety of other medications that were not controlled substances - we probably all do. As long as they don't interact with other things you take, those shouldn't be a problem.

Of course P didn't know what he was taking that day - I think he thought he was taking oxycontin. Btw, you do know that oxycontin was originally given to cancer patients? That doesn't mean that I think P had cancer. I haven't seen any evidence of that yet.

AND again, you have not paid attention to anything I've ever said because NOT ONCE have I ever thought that P's friends were getting pills for him in their names. NEVER. If he wanted these pills, they are easy enough to obtain illegally WITHOUT ANYONE NEEDING A PRESCRIPTION. What I do believe is that someone KNEW he was getting them or was going out to fetch them for him and enabling and covering it up for him. Not one thing about that says anything bad about Prince - if he had pain like I suspect he did, the pills in the strength that he needed were easier for him to obtain through his own means rather than through the medical system as it stands today. I don't think he looked at them as those they were "drugs", I think he looked at them as what he needed to deal with the pain he was in. Problem is that is how people get wrapped up in the nightmare of opiates and it's dangers (including the tainted ones)

I have stated before, these are MY thoughts, not that they are truth. None of us knows what the truth really is at this point, which I believe, is why we're all here rehashing this and waiting for the next bit of information if it ever comes.

muleFunk said:

muleFunk said:

Didn't I tell you a couple of weeks ago that these new articles would be strategically released to coincide with an event connected with Prince???

Mulefunk, I have seen you post before about this. What is the event that you are referring to currently or do you believe that one is about to happen? And for clarity, you believe that the directive to release these stories is being given by whom and for what purpose?

CooperC62057 said:

muleFunk said:

Didn't I tell you a couple of weeks ago that these new articles would be strategically released to coincide with an event connected with Prince???

Mulefunk, I have seen you post before about this. What is the event that you are referring to currently or do you believe that one is about to happen? And for clarity, you believe that the directive to release these stories is being given by whom and for what purpose?

The release of Prince4Ever maybe?

CooperC62057 said:

laurarichardson said:

CooperC62057 said: -- But did you read the part that said no Fentenyl was found in his system from test ran the prior day. Prince was not a Fentenyl addict. I also question all the different drugs in his living quarters. If he was taking all those pills he would not have been able to walk. Whole thing is crazy. They also mention non-controlled substances and we know Dr. S wrote him Rxs for non/controlled substances. Once again I don't think P knew what he was taking that on that day and I do not think he went to the doctor to have test to see if his system was clear from Subxone the next day. I don't even know if he knew Dr. K son was coming because if he was taking a real Watson would that have not caused a problem with the treatment Dr K son was bringing? Do you still think you know what is going on? Do you still think he had a army of friends getting him pills with their names on the bottles who have not been arrested? [Edited 11/23/16 15:05pm]

I think you really misread me. I absolutely have never thought that Prince was a fentanyl addict. I don't disagree that the fentanyl was not in his system the day prior. I believe that the "Watson" pills were all counterfeit since the manufacturer of that particular brand has not produced that particular pill for a few years. Thus, I am curious to know out of all the "Watson" pills, did they all contain some amount of fentanyl or were some void of this substance? Just a curiosity since these pills that are created by less than legit folks can vary from pill to pill with contents.

As I said earlier, it's possible that he may have had xanax, although he didn't have a script, it's fairly easy to obtain. Doesn't mean he took it regularly, although didn't I read somewhere that it was in his system? Again, correct me if I am wrong. He also could have had a variety of other medications that were not controlled substances - we probably all do. As long as they don't interact with other things you take, those shouldn't be a problem.

Of course P didn't know what he was taking that day - I think he thought he was taking oxycontin. Btw, you do know that oxycontin was originally given to cancer patients? That doesn't mean that I think P had cancer. I haven't seen any evidence of that yet.

AND again, you have not paid attention to anything I've ever said because NOT ONCE have I ever thought that P's friends were getting pills for him in their names. NEVER. If he wanted these pills, they are easy enough to obtain illegally WITHOUT ANYONE NEEDING A PRESCRIPTION. What I do believe is that someone KNEW he was getting them or was going out to fetch them for him and enabling and covering it up for him. Not one thing about that says anything bad about Prince - if he had pain like I suspect he did, the pills in the strength that he needed were easier for him to obtain through his own means rather than through the medical system as it stands today. I don't think he looked at them as those they were "drugs", I think he looked at them as what he needed to deal with the pain he was in. Problem is that is how people get wrapped up in the nightmare of opiates and it's dangers (including the tainted ones)

I have stated before, these are MY thoughts, not that they are truth. None of us knows what the truth really is at this point, which I believe, is why we're all here rehashing this and waiting for the next bit of information if it ever comes.

"LR, you repeatedly, over and over, state that P did not have these drugs in his system 24 hours prior. I am guessing that you have been priveleged to see this information in his medical file?"

I posted the article from the AP to inform you of how I know that he did not have the Fentenyl in his system.

I will now answer some of your questions from above because you are missing some information that is well known.

Reply #22 you stated the following regarding Prince "I do not believe for one minute he was taking pain pills for kicks and grins." and since the last few pages of this thread are regarding the use of pain pills, I am assuming that you are referring to posts made by myself and others.

Well we do have some proof. Please see the Washington Post article below the writer interviewed P in 2010 and Prince mentioned his surgery. In addition, Billy Sparks discussed with Tom Joyner back in June that Prince had hip surgery not replacement.

Of course we are not going to see his medical records don’t be silly but you have more than a few people verifying it and you have this writer from Ebony recounting his story.

This is solid proof to me. He would have been given pain meds if he had hip surgery.

https://www.washingtonpos...ons-death/

“There are other meds out there that are not opiate based to help with pain and perhaps, some orgers that may be taking them could help us with that info. I can personally tell you that I know of a doctor who is now prescribing his patients gabapentin in lieu of pain meds. There are pain management doctors who also put their patients in physical therapy and other alternative treatments to help manage pain. Do you have information that P was practicing alternate treatments or was he treating his pain only with pain meds?”

Of course he was aware he told Adrian about his doctor and he told the Atlanta promoter. Do you think anyone was going to make Prince do something against his will? The doctor was at the party that Saturday and P gave him a shout out. You are just repeating what I said he was using other pain meds to step down. The only real question is why he was not doing this in a rehab or had he been in a rehab.

“Ah, Dr. S and those prescriptions. They could have been for something as simple as blood pressure meds, thyroid meds, cholesterol meds OR maybe the doc was giving him something like clonazapam to help with the withdrawal symptoms. Or, maybe he was having trouble sleeping as was discussed the other day - maybe he prescribed him ambien and Prince was in a hypnotic state when he put his clothes on backward and took the fatal pill. Do I believe that? Not outside the realm of possibility. And who said he was gravely "ill"? I thought that it was a grave situation.”

“Seriously, I almost fell off my chair on this one. Let me just tell you, with opiates it can be a whole lot. People will reason those signs away with so many other explanations you just wouldn't imagine. I've seen it - some people wouldn't recognize it if it was written on their forehead. And since you've been bringing up associates and what they've had to say, let's not forget Jill Jones and her saying something to the effect of she knew something was off or that he was taking something.”

Dozens and dozens of people are saying this. Adrian is telling you on the podcast he has been around drugs most of his life. That he use to sell them and has family members who were on drugs. He said he would know a drug addict in 5 minutes. He is telling you the person he worked with for 4 years was not an addicted. Many others who saw him every day are telling us he was not addicted. You also are not looking at his work ethic over the last few years and how productive he was. People addicted to drugs don’t get better at their craft they get worst or they are not doing anything. You can’t go by Jill Jones because she typed that on her Facebook page. Took it off and them back tracked on her podcast. She also had not seen him in years and admitted that he was extremely distraught at Vanity’s memorial. If he was out of it that day it might have been from grief. Do you think the people in Australia are not being honest. How about people in Atlanta and people at the party in St. Barts? He sure did a lot of getting around for a guy addicted to pain pills.

I also have experience with Percocet no one is moving if they are abusing that stuff.

“Tabloids? I give 0 thought or notice to anything that they have to say.”

Well maybe you should because they spend a tremendous amount of time and money trying to get dirt on people. TMZ had someone follow him to the Walgreens.

I guarantee they have left no stone unturned.

In addition, I know what Oxycontin is used for and that was mentioned on this board back in August. A few people that are doctors and nurses even stated that he might have been the beginning stages of cancer. Cancer is even mentioned on AOA but no one on this board wants to hear about that or even the fact that Dr. S is listed on one website as a critical care doctor but no where as an addiction or pain management doctor. Kind of makes you wonder.