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Reply #150 posted 10/09/16 1:04pm

Dibblekins

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

My law practice is an LLC

I opened the LLC

I am an employee of the LLC

I own the LLC

P didnt even have a will and you think he allowed someone to own shares of his music, etc?

You think he would share his profits with someone else?

Why would he do that?

What would they be able to bring to the table monetarily for him to allow them to share in his profits?

Is it not possible that he might have set this up so that he could forego the need to have a will?

.

Maybe something was going down in his life whereby he wasn't concerned about others having money to bring to the table? Maybe time was limited, and he just wanted to ensure that his music copyrights were taken care of - without having to repeat the unpleasant process he had seen happen with his Father's will?

.

You seem to assume that money was Prince's primary motivation for doing things...I'm not so sure that was his main concern, to be honest - he said as much, several times.
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Reply #151 posted 10/09/16 1:12pm

laurarichardso
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Dibblekins said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

My law practice is an LLC

I opened the LLC

I am an employee of the LLC

I own the LLC

P didnt even have a will and you think he allowed someone to own shares of his music, etc?

You think he would share his profits with someone else?

Why would he do that?

What would they be able to bring to the table monetarily for him to allow them to share in his profits?

Is it not possible that he might have set this up so that he could forego the need to have a will?

.

Maybe something was going down in his life whereby he wasn't concerned about others having money to bring to the table? Maybe time was limited, and he just wanted to ensure that his music copyrights were taken care of - without having to repeat the unpleasant process he had seen happen with his Father's will?

.

You seem to assume that money was Prince's primary motivation for doing things...I'm not so sure that was his main concern, to be honest - he said as much, several times.
.

I think he was more concerned about the music not so much the money. He had so much tied up in Real Estate which can be easily sold so why would money have been a worry for him.

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Reply #152 posted 10/09/16 8:37pm

wavesofbliss

highfive just a thank u for clarifying things for the layfolks. probate stuff is a nightmare labyrinth to me.

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i did see anything conerning the divorce that would be danming to MT- she changed her birth year to 1978 but is that such a big deal?

Prince #MUSICIANICONLEGEND
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Reply #153 posted 10/09/16 11:26pm

LuxLove

Will the divorce info be revealed today?

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Reply #154 posted 10/10/16 12:38am

morningsong

LuxLove said:

Will the divorce info be revealed today?




I don't think so since the phone hearing is happening tomorrow. Whatever that is.
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Reply #155 posted 10/10/16 5:54am

laurarichardso
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morningsong said:

LuxLove said:

Will the divorce info be revealed today?




I don't think so since the phone hearing is happening tomorrow. Whatever that is.

They divorced in a no fault state so there could be nothing to see. I am sure she is trying to have the financial terms redacted so I am not sure what The Star Trubune is going to get out of this.
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Reply #156 posted 10/10/16 6:40am

MMJas

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morningsong said:

LuxLove said:

Will the divorce info be revealed today?

I don't think so since the phone hearing is happening tomorrow. Whatever that is.

Yes, what exactly is a phone hearing?

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Reply #157 posted 10/10/16 6:55am

zenarose

MMJas said:

morningsong said:

LuxLove said: I don't think so since the phone hearing is happening tomorrow. Whatever that is.

Yes, what exactly is a phone hearing?

I think it's where the Judge hears the case via Conference Call. Probably because an attorney or

client can't travel, scheduling problems, ect. It was postponed from the 5th to today.

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Reply #158 posted 10/10/16 9:20am

zenarose

morningsong said:

LuxLove said:

Will the divorce info be revealed today?

I don't think so since the phone hearing is happening tomorrow. Whatever that is.

Nothing yet on the phone hearing, but there are 2 new filings from 10/7 RE: Claire Boyd. One of which

blows her out of the water RE: MT eek

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Reply #159 posted 10/10/16 10:41am

morningsong

Whatever this means from the divorce case

Result: Held
11/14/2016
Post Final Decree (10:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Fraser, Thomas)

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Reply #160 posted 10/10/16 10:42am

Angele

morningsong said:

Whatever this means from the divorce case

Result: Held
11/14/2016
Post Final Decree (10:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Fraser, Thomas)

yea, what does this mean?

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Reply #161 posted 10/10/16 10:45am

morningsong

Whatever this means from the divorce case

Result: Held
11/14/2016
Post Final Decree (10:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Fraser, Thomas)

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Reply #162 posted 10/10/16 10:46am

zenarose

morningsong said:

Whatever this means from the divorce case

Result: Held
11/14/2016
Post Final Decree (10:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Fraser, Thomas)

WOW they are dragging this out. Maybe the Judge is gonna release it on 11/14 or took it under advisement for longer consideration?? I bet the ST is tired of waiting too!

By the way... Good Morning to you

[Edited 10/10/16 10:47am]

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Reply #163 posted 10/10/16 10:48am

morningsong

Ms. Boyd also claims to be have been born a CIA sex slave who was considered devoid of legal rights, the first-born of-triplets (although her mother put her disabled siblings up for adoption and pressured hospital staff to falsify her birth certificate to conceal their existence) a prodigy and the world’s only nondisabled savant.



eek I, uh...uh, hm, well, I mean, ya know. *walks away*

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Reply #164 posted 10/10/16 10:55am

zenarose

morningsong said:

Ms. Boyd also claims to be have been born a CIA sex slave who was considered devoid of legal rights, the first-born of-triplets (although her mother put her disabled siblings up for adoption and pressured hospital staff to falsify her birth certificate to conceal their existence) a prodigy and the world’s only nondisabled savant.



eek I, uh...uh, hm, well, I mean, ya know. *walks away*

Now there is a good canidate for a plant. nutso

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Reply #165 posted 10/10/16 10:59am

morningsong

zenarose said:

morningsong said:

eek I, uh...uh, hm, well, I mean, ya know. *walks away*

Now there is a good canidate for a plant. nutso



It's an interesting brand of something, I know that.

I hope all the i's are dotted and t's crossed so they can reject her from now on. It's just taking up space at this point.

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Reply #166 posted 10/10/16 11:01am

MMJas

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morningsong said:

zenarose said:

Now there is a good canidate for a plant. nutso



It's an interesting brand of something, I know that.

I hope all the i's are dotted and t's crossed so they can reject her from now on. It's just taking up space at this point.

Exactly. Oh, my... There are real nutt jobs out there.

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Reply #167 posted 10/10/16 11:18am

tmo1965

zenarose said:

morningsong said:

Whatever this means from the divorce case

Result: Held
Post Final Decree (10:30 AM) (Judicial Officer Fraser, Thomas)

WOW they are dragging this out. Maybe the Judge is gonna release it on 11/14 or took it under advisement for longer consideration?? I bet the ST is tired of waiting too!

By the way... Good Morning to you

[Edited 10/10/16 10:47am]

I've heard of this strategy when people don't want a court judgement. I've known people to drag cases out for a year or more with BS motions and excuses. I don't blame Manuela for this. Her divorce should not be made public. It sounds like the judge will issue another final order. I say that because on 8/4 there was a final decree issued, when he ruled that the court documents would be made public.

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Reply #168 posted 10/10/16 12:34pm

morningsong

This is not the first time Ms. Boyd has attempted to insert herself into a celebrity Estate. Using the name “Claire Elisabeth Fields Cruise,” Ms. Boyd petitioned for guardianship of Michael J ackson’s children, claiming that she gave birth to them, and that she and Michael Jackson had a son who was adopted by Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. See Woman claims she and Jackson had Cruise’s adopted son;


Okay zenarose you win, she's not a plant, she's just plan and utterly bonkers. But she's an orignal, I give her that.



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Reply #169 posted 10/10/16 12:46pm

zenarose

morningsong said:

This is not the first time Ms. Boyd has attempted to insert herself into a celebrity Estate. Using the name “Claire Elisabeth Fields Cruise,” Ms. Boyd petitioned for guardianship of Michael J ackson’s children, claiming that she gave birth to them, and that she and Michael Jackson had a son who was adopted by Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman. See Woman claims she and Jackson had Cruise’s adopted son;


Okay zenarose you win, she's not a plant, she's just plan and utterly bonkers. But she's an orignal, I give her that.



LMAO!!! I thought you had read the file posted today. OMG I'm rollin' here. And she is free to be out

alone and unattended........ nuts

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Reply #170 posted 10/10/16 1:10pm

morningsong

zenarose said:

morningsong said:

Okay zenarose you win, she's not a plant, she's just plan and utterly bonkers. But she's an orignal, I give her that.



LMAO!!! I thought you had read the file posted today. OMG I'm rollin' here. And she is free to be out

alone and unattended........ nuts



I am really trying to pick out the choice bits.

As examples, Ms. Boyd claims that she wrote Mr. Nelson’s famous song “I Would Die 4 U” and that it is evidence that Mr. Nelson did, indeed, die for Ms. Boyd.

eek Alrighty then.

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Reply #171 posted 10/10/16 1:46pm

PennyPurple

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tmo1965 said:

I've heard of this strategy when people don't want a court judgement. I've known people to drag cases out for a year or more with BS motions and excuses. I don't blame Manuela for this. Her divorce should not be made public. It sounds like the judge will issue another final order. I say that because on 8/4 there was a final decree issued, when he ruled that the court documents would be made public.

Why shouldn't it be made public? My parents divorce decree is public, in the public records for the county and state they live in.

Why should hers be kept private? She did go on to remarry EB. At this point what difference does it make if they are opened? If it was so important, why didn't she seek to have them closed permanently years ago, instead of now?

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Reply #172 posted 10/10/16 2:12pm

laurarichardso
n

PennyPurple said:

tmo1965 said:

I've heard of this strategy when people don't want a court judgement. I've known people to drag cases out for a year or more with BS motions and excuses. I don't blame Manuela for this. Her divorce should not be made public. It sounds like the judge will issue another final order. I say that because on 8/4 there was a final decree issued, when he ruled that the court documents would be made public.

Why shouldn't it be made public? My parents divorce decree is public, in the public records for the county and state they live in.

Why should hers be kept private? She did go on to remarry EB. At this point what difference does it make if they are opened? If it was so important, why didn't she seek to have them closed permanently years ago, instead of now?

Because your parents were not worth millions. Prince is probaly the one that had it sealed since his assest and liablitities would have been listed and maybe the reason for the divorce. The first one is noboby's business and when you are wealthy you don't want your finances out for the entire would to see. You may have creditors or the tax man looking to see what you are worth. Also Mani may have made some statements about him that were untrue or true and embarrassing. Prince may have made some statements about her that were untrue or embarrassing. Remember she did not have a dime to her name when she met him and was probaly trying to take him to the cleaners I imagine his attorney's might have put some of her business out there to get the outcome to work in Prince's favor.

I know a lot of people on this board, Facebook and a few other boards think Mani is hiding something embarrassing about her self after all if Prince was the bad one why would she be worried he is no longer around and unfortunatly a lot of his business is out in the street now anyway. What is she so worried about?

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Reply #173 posted 10/10/16 2:52pm

PennyPurple

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laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Why shouldn't it be made public? My parents divorce decree is public, in the public records for the county and state they live in.

Why should hers be kept private? She did go on to remarry EB. At this point what difference does it make if they are opened? If it was so important, why didn't she seek to have them closed permanently years ago, instead of now?

Because your parents were not worth millions. Prince is probaly the one that had it sealed since his assest and liablitities would have been listed and maybe the reason for the divorce. The first one is noboby's business and when you are wealthy you don't want your finances out for the entire would to see. You may have creditors or the tax man looking to see what you are worth. Also Mani may have made some statements about him that were untrue or true and embarrassing. Prince may have made some statements about her that were untrue or embarrassing. Remember she did not have a dime to her name when she met him and was probaly trying to take him to the cleaners I imagine his attorney's might have put some of her business out there to get the outcome to work in Prince's favor.

I know a lot of people on this board, Facebook and a few other boards think Mani is hiding something embarrassing about her self after all if Prince was the bad one why would she be worried he is no longer around and unfortunatly a lot of his business is out in the street now anyway. What is she so worried about?

I agree with you. She is worried about something.

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Reply #174 posted 10/10/16 2:55pm

tmo1965

PennyPurple said:

tmo1965 said:

I've heard of this strategy when people don't want a court judgement. I've known people to drag cases out for a year or more with BS motions and excuses. I don't blame Manuela for this. Her divorce should not be made public. It sounds like the judge will issue another final order. I say that because on 8/4 there was a final decree issued, when he ruled that the court documents would be made public.

Why shouldn't it be made public? My parents divorce decree is public, in the public records for the county and state they live in.

Why should hers be kept private? She did go on to remarry EB. At this point what difference does it make if they are opened? If it was so important, why didn't she seek to have them closed permanently years ago, instead of now?

I don't mean to be rude when I say this, but the world is not interested in digging into your parents' divorce business. There may have been embarrassing, untrue, or misleading info in Prince and Manuela's divorce records. Not everything in court records are totally true. For us regular people, no one would be interested in digging through our divorce files looking for dirt. This is not the case with Prince and Manuela.

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Reply #175 posted 10/10/16 2:57pm

tmo1965

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

Because your parents were not worth millions. Prince is probaly the one that had it sealed since his assest and liablitities would have been listed and maybe the reason for the divorce. The first one is noboby's business and when you are wealthy you don't want your finances out for the entire would to see. You may have creditors or the tax man looking to see what you are worth. Also Mani may have made some statements about him that were untrue or true and embarrassing. Prince may have made some statements about her that were untrue or embarrassing. Remember she did not have a dime to her name when she met him and was probaly trying to take him to the cleaners I imagine his attorney's might have put some of her business out there to get the outcome to work in Prince's favor.

I know a lot of people on this board, Facebook and a few other boards think Mani is hiding something embarrassing about her self after all if Prince was the bad one why would she be worried he is no longer around and unfortunatly a lot of his business is out in the street now anyway. What is she so worried about?

I agree with you. She is worried about something.

I think there is something not so flattering about her in there.

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Reply #176 posted 10/10/16 3:02pm

laurarichardso
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laurarichardson said:

Dibblekins said:

Is it not possible that he might have set this up so that he could forego the need to have a will?

.

Maybe something was going down in his life whereby he wasn't concerned about others having money to bring to the table? Maybe time was limited, and he just wanted to ensure that his music copyrights were taken care of - without having to repeat the unpleasant process he had seen happen with his Father's will?

.

You seem to assume that money was Prince's primary motivation for doing things...I'm not so sure that was his main concern, to be honest - he said as much, several times.
.

I think he was more concerned about the music not so much the money. He had so much tied up in Real Estate which can be easily sold so why would money have been a worry for him.

https://eminutes.com/incorporate this is the company that Ericka works for they set up LLC and Coporation quickly for entrepreuners. Kind of makes you wonder.

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Reply #177 posted 10/10/16 6:12pm

Leopard52

Dibblekins said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:


My law practice is an LLC


I opened the LLC


I am an employee of the LLC


I own the LLC


P didnt even have a will and you think he allowed someone to own shares of his music, etc?


You think he would share his profits with someone else?


Why would he do that?


What would they be able to bring to the table monetarily for him to allow them to share in his profits?




Is it not possible that he might have set this up so that he could forego the need to have a will?


.


Maybe something was going down in his life whereby he wasn't concerned about others having money to bring to the table? Maybe time was limited, and he just wanted to ensure that his music copyrights were taken care of - without having to repeat the unpleasant process he had seen happen with his Father's will?


.


You seem to assume that money was Prince's primary motivation for doing things...I'm not so sure that was his main concern, to be honest - he said as much, several times.
.



What needs to be known is ... Who are the owners of this LLC. I read somewhere Prince was listed as an employee but it didn't say who the owners are.
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Reply #178 posted 10/10/16 6:38pm

PennyPurple

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tmo1965 said:

PennyPurple said:

Why shouldn't it be made public? My parents divorce decree is public, in the public records for the county and state they live in.

Why should hers be kept private? She did go on to remarry EB. At this point what difference does it make if they are opened? If it was so important, why didn't she seek to have them closed permanently years ago, instead of now?

I don't mean to be rude when I say this, but the world is not interested in digging into your parents' divorce business. There may have been embarrassing, untrue, or misleading info in Prince and Manuela's divorce records. Not everything in court records are totally true. For us regular people, no one would be interested in digging through our divorce files looking for dirt. This is not the case with Prince and Manuela.

I know the world isn't interested in my parent's divorce. LOL The point I was trying to make is, if normal peoples divorce records are a matter of public record...her's should be no different.

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Reply #179 posted 10/10/16 6:51pm

tmo1965

PennyPurple said:

tmo1965 said:

I don't mean to be rude when I say this, but the world is not interested in digging into your parents' divorce business. There may have been embarrassing, untrue, or misleading info in Prince and Manuela's divorce records. Not everything in court records are totally true. For us regular people, no one would be interested in digging through our divorce files looking for dirt. This is not the case with Prince and Manuela.

I know the world isn't interested in my parent's divorce. LOL The point I was trying to make is, if normal peoples divorce records are a matter of public record...her's should be no different.

So how would you or your parents feel if their divorce business was front page news and worst yet, front page tabloid news? You, me, your parents, and most people will never have to worry about that. Celebrities deserve the same level of privacy that the rest of us get to a point.

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