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Reply #240 posted 09/14/16 7:48am

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My concern is that whoever manages the estate -- including the tribute concert -- is someone who has the actual business knowledge to oversee this correctly (even if that means hiring the right team to manage the day-to-day). Just because someone was a musical associate of P or related to him, they might have no idea about all the issues involved in pulling off a huge stadium show -- let alone managing assets worth $300mm+

rogifan said:

FlyOnTheWall said: I have nothing against Sheila but who says she should be the one in charge of his legacy? I think it's just sad that these people can't all work together and do right by Prince. Put egos aside and work together. I doubt Sheila knows anything about managing an estate (or has time to oversee it) so work with Bremer and Londell and the family. Maybe she attempted to and they said no thanks. But somehow I doubt that. I'm curious did she and P reconcile before he passed. I know they had a falling out back in 2011/2012 but I'm wondering if they made up at some point. I'm not surprised they didn't work together in 2013-2015 because P was doing the whole 3rdEye thing.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7341899/sheila-e-prince-memorial

Because Sheila knew Prince since his first record came out back in the 70's and performed with him more than any other band member. Her Tribute on BET, was one of the BEST, because she knew how his shows were done. High energy.

Sheila said she called several times in April to see how Prince was doing after his April emergency landing, and the security people answering the phone told her he was resting and doing fine.

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Reply #241 posted 09/14/16 8:00am

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Disch, you are so right. It is an extremely complicated enterprise to manage such an Estate, let alone a tribute concert. I run a small business and I know what I go through - I cannot imagine the team required to manage Prince's businesses.

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Reply #242 posted 09/14/16 8:37am

FlyOnTheWall

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it is a bit discouraging to not know yet who is performing. I personally think it should be big acts, not just his local band members, if this is suppose to be the major tribute concert.

Remember that one award show where Prince was honored and other artists were singing his songs and he made all kind of faces, especially, at Alecia Keys, climbing on top of the piano? I can't recall the show, but he was sitting in the front row, with the woman from his band that has a shaved head. If anyone can, and knows what face I'm talking about that he made, feel free and post it.

I think Prince is very particular who sings his songs and how they sing it. He wants things done right and respectfully. I have no doubt about it.

Have they changed the date from Oct 13th to Oct 15th now?

That was the BET Awards. Prince and Shelby were trying their best not to break down laughing when Alicia climbed on the piano, big pregnant.

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Reply #243 posted 09/14/16 8:38am

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rogifan said:

2020 said:
If this is any indication how Londell handled Prince's affairs while he was alive no wonder P got rid of him....pathetic
This is an interesting question. Was he one of Prince's lawyers at the end? How did he end up becoming involved with Prince's affairs again?

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Reply #244 posted 09/14/16 8:41am

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Reply #245 posted 09/14/16 9:00am

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FlyOnTheWall said:

musicfan77 said:

it is a bit discouraging to not know yet who is performing. I personally think it should be big acts, not just his local band members, if this is suppose to be the major tribute concert.

Remember that one award show where Prince was honored and other artists were singing his songs and he made all kind of faces, especially, at Alecia Keys, climbing on top of the piano? I can't recall the show, but he was sitting in the front row, with the woman from his band that has a shaved head. If anyone can, and knows what face I'm talking about that he made, feel free and post it.

I think Prince is very particular who sings his songs and how they sing it. He wants things done right and respectfully. I have no doubt about it.

Have they changed the date from Oct 13th to Oct 15th now?

That was the BET Awards. Prince and Shelby were trying their best not to break down laughing when Alicia climbed on the piano, big pregnant.

Prince was trying not to laugh...as he just about squeezed Shelby's hand off. Shelby could not contain it! She was full on laughing. lol

But, P was gracious about it and stood to clap when Keyes was finished. I think he appreciated that he was being honored.

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Reply #246 posted 09/14/16 9:20am

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teach49 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

That was the BET Awards. Prince and Shelby were trying their best not to break down laughing when Alicia climbed on the piano, big pregnant.

Prince was trying not to laugh...as he just about squeezed Shelby's hand off. Shelby could not contain it! She was full on laughing. lol

But, P was gracious about it and stood to clap when Keyes was finished. I think he appreciated that he was being honored.

Actually Prince was terrified that Aleisha was going to fall and hurt herself and the baby while crawling on the piano. He grabbed Shelby's arm and only started smilimg when he saw Aleisha was okay.lol

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Reply #247 posted 09/14/16 9:56am

FlyOnTheWall

purplethunder3121 said:

teach49 said:

Prince was trying not to laugh...as he just about squeezed Shelby's hand off. Shelby could not contain it! She was full on laughing. lol

But, P was gracious about it and stood to clap when Keyes was finished. I think he appreciated that he was being honored.

Actually Prince was terrified that Aleisha was going to fall and hurt herself and the baby while crawling on the piano. He grabbed Shelby's arm and only started smilimg when he saw Aleisha was okay.lol

Image result for prince alicia keys crawling on piano gifImage result for prince alicia keys crawling on piano gif

And look at the face of the guy sitting behind them!! ROFL!! That's the first time I've noticed him. I bet this is one of Shelby's most treasured memories.

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Reply #248 posted 09/14/16 10:18am

teach49

FlyOnTheWall said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Actually Prince was terrified that Aleisha was going to fall and hurt herself and the baby while crawling on the piano. He grabbed Shelby's arm and only started smilimg when he saw Aleisha was okay.lol

Image result for prince alicia keys crawling on piano gifImage result for prince alicia keys crawling on piano gif

And look at the face of the guy sitting behind them!! ROFL!! That's the first time I've noticed him. I bet this is one of Shelby's most treasured memories.

OMG, the expression on that guy's face is classic! I hadn't notice him either. lol lol lol lol

Yes, P is concerned as well. I think he's going through many emotions actually, but he sure can't let himself laugh yet. Shelby, though, she just doesn't hold back (although I do think part of her laughter is about P's reaction). wink

Too funny!

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Reply #249 posted 09/14/16 12:42pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

teach49 said:

Prince was trying not to laugh...as he just about squeezed Shelby's hand off. Shelby could not contain it! She was full on laughing. lol

But, P was gracious about it and stood to clap when Keyes was finished. I think he appreciated that he was being honored.

Actually Prince was terrified that Aleisha was going to fall and hurt herself and the baby while crawling on the piano. He grabbed Shelby's arm and only started smilimg when he saw Aleisha was okay.lol

Image result for prince alicia keys crawling on piano gifImage result for prince alicia keys crawling on piano gif



eek Omg, the mix of everything going on in this gif is just hysterical. Shelby is cracking me up, I'd have been laughing just as hard as she was lol The dude behind them is transfixed!!! omg lol


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Reply #250 posted 09/14/16 12:48pm

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2020 said:

If this is any indication how Londell handled Prince's affairs while he was alive no wonder P got rid of him....pathetic

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Reply #251 posted 09/14/16 12:55pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

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I know, right?! This whole thing is way too much!! rolleyes

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Reply #252 posted 09/14/16 1:04pm

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cloveringold85 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

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I know, right?! This whole thing is way too much!! rolleyes

Yeah, it's not like it's PRINCE himself we're going through this for... confused He was worth it.

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Reply #253 posted 09/14/16 2:18pm

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cloveringold85 said:


Just saw this on the Star Tribune.....


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But a month before the much ballyhooed show, the stadium doesn’t have a signed contract and the Prince estate has not announced any acts or ticket information. To sell more than 40,000 seats for a concert in a football stadium usually requires months of promotion.


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The concert is only a month away, and there is no producer? I don't see how this is going to happen now.


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http://www.startribune.com/no-contract-no-official-info-exist-for-prince-tribute-concert-at-vikings-stadium/393327211/





Please no Christina Aguilera or John Mayer as suggested in the article! Otherwise, it gives me some hope. There's confirmation that talks are happening and the Revolution still could be there. I'm going to look at the bright side and ignore the mention of those two performers.



It would be horrible if Christina Aguilera and/or John Mayer perform at the memorial tribute. Hopefully, they are booked elsewhere!
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Reply #254 posted 09/14/16 2:19pm

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Well, it appears Morris Day is out. He mysteriously deleted his last tweet about the Tribute Concert-now he's booked on the 14th in Jakarta, Indonesia. Couldn't possibly do both. Very pissed at him. At least Sheila E, immediately said she wasn't doing Minne. Morris said he was-advertising it and all-up until Sunday. I thonl the Tribute Concert is officially over cry

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Reply #255 posted 09/14/16 2:41pm

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Nooriginalusername said:

Well, it appears Morris Day is out. He mysteriously deleted his last tweet about the Tribute Concert-now he's booked on the 14th in Jakarta, Indonesia. Couldn't possibly do both. Very pissed at him. At least Sheila E, immediately said she wasn't doing Minne. Morris said he was-advertising it and all-up until Sunday. I thonl the Tribute Concert is officially over cry

I'm not mad at Morris. Just like Brownmark's apparant change in how sure he seemed about this tribute, I think something behind the scenes and out of the control of Morris and Mark happened and this whole fustercluck imploded further than the mess it was before. I firmly believe something happened in just the last few days that seems to have put the final blow to this dead horse of an idea. It's too bad. Prince deserved so so SO much better than this mess.

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Reply #256 posted 09/14/16 2:46pm

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Someone above suggested that they should have done a Celebration at Paisley Park -- and that honestly would have been such a better idea: Open up PP for a weekend a la Prince's Celebrations, with his old bandmates etc. doing intimate shows, sharing stories with fans, lots of memorabilia on display, screenings of his movies, etc. Something like that could have been both a festive memorial and also a lovely tribute in line with the kinds of events P himself hosted -- and it would have attracted a full house of die-hards, I think.

slowlywiltingflower said:

Nooriginalusername said:

Well, it appears Morris Day is out. He mysteriously deleted his last tweet about the Tribute Concert-now he's booked on the 14th in Jakarta, Indonesia. Couldn't possibly do both. Very pissed at him. At least Sheila E, immediately said she wasn't doing Minne. Morris said he was-advertising it and all-up until Sunday. I thonl the Tribute Concert is officially over cry

I'm not mad at Morris. Just like Brownmark's apparant change in how sure he seemed about this tribute, I think something behind the scenes and out of the control of Morris and Mark happened and this whole fustercluck imploded further than the mess it was before. I firmly believe something happened in just the last few days that seems to have put the final blow to this dead horse of an idea. It's too bad. Prince deserved so so SO much better than this mess.

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Reply #257 posted 09/14/16 2:48pm

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Nooriginalusername said:

Well, it appears Morris Day is out. He mysteriously deleted his last tweet about the Tribute Concert-now he's booked on the 14th in Jakarta, Indonesia. Couldn't possibly do both. Very pissed at him. At least Sheila E, immediately said she wasn't doing Minne. Morris said he was-advertising it and all-up until Sunday. I thonl the Tribute Concert is officially over cry


Wait...he's performing in Indonesia on the 14th and then back in the USA to perform with Sheila on the 15th in Cleveland? How is that possible? confused
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Reply #258 posted 09/14/16 2:54pm

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i think this is the absolute best idea for a tribute I've heard. Everything about it seems 'right' and it would have been a wonderful way to find closure (as much as one could) and pay respects in way, like you said, that Prince himself enjoyed hosting: having fans there at PP, enjoying the music, being together. I wish this could have been what happened in regards to a tribute. To me this would have been the perfect way to say 'goodbye' and 'thank you.'

disch said:

Someone above suggested that they should have done a Celebration at Paisley Park -- and that honestly would have been such a better idea: Open up PP for a weekend a la Prince's Celebrations, with his old bandmates etc. doing intimate shows, sharing stories with fans, lots of memorabilia on display, screenings of his movies, etc. Something like that could have been both a festive memorial and also a lovely tribute in line with the kinds of events P himself hosted -- and it would have attracted a full house of die-hards, I think

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Reply #259 posted 09/14/16 2:55pm

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disch said:

Someone above suggested that they should have done a Celebration at Paisley Park -- and that honestly would have been such a better idea: Open up PP for a weekend a la Prince's Celebrations, with his old bandmates etc. doing intimate shows, sharing stories with fans, lots of memorabilia on display, screenings of his movies, etc. Something like that could have been both a festive memorial and also a lovely tribute in line with the kinds of events P himself hosted -- and it would have attracted a full house of die-hards, I think.



slowlywiltingflower said:




Nooriginalusername said:


Well, it appears Morris Day is out. He mysteriously deleted his last tweet about the Tribute Concert-now he's booked on the 14th in Jakarta, Indonesia. Couldn't possibly do both. Very pissed at him. At least Sheila E, immediately said she wasn't doing Minne. Morris said he was-advertising it and all-up until Sunday. I thonl the Tribute Concert is officially over cry



I'm not mad at Morris. Just like Brownmark's apparant change in how sure he seemed about this tribute, I think something behind the scenes and out of the control of Morris and Mark happened and this whole fustercluck imploded further than the mess it was before. I firmly believe something happened in just the last few days that seems to have put the final blow to this dead horse of an idea. It's too bad. Prince deserved so so SO much better than this mess.




But if this was also about needing to make $$ to help with legal fees, estate taxes etc. an event like that at PP wouldn't bring in the money that filling a 50K seat stadium would. It's still weird to me that just a few days ago BrownMark tweeted that he and Londell spoke and it was all good and he'd have more news soon. OK well we're almost to the end of another week with no news. Something obviously is preventing this from happening. I wish Londell or someone from the estate would just release a statement saying they ran into issues and it's being rescheduled for a later date. Yeah it sucks for those who bought plane tickets and hotel accommodations but I never would have done that without more concrete information, like when tickets would be on sale or an initial list of performers. I think the original statement was too vague to make plans off of. But I do feel bad for those that did.
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Reply #260 posted 09/14/16 2:59pm

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rogifan said:

Nooriginalusername said:

Well, it appears Morris Day is out. He mysteriously deleted his last tweet about the Tribute Concert-now he's booked on the 14th in Jakarta, Indonesia. Couldn't possibly do both. Very pissed at him. At least Sheila E, immediately said she wasn't doing Minne. Morris said he was-advertising it and all-up until Sunday. I thonl the Tribute Concert is officially over cry

Wait...he's performing in Indonesia on the 14th and then back in the USA to perform with Sheila on the 15th in Cleveland? How is that possible? confused


He'll gain 12 hours flying back to the States, some coming back is achievable. But going out he'll lose 12 hours. So he can't do the tribute and Jakarta. He's removed Minn on the 13th on his schedule and added Jakarta on the 14th. Game over for The Time at the memorial.

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Reply #261 posted 09/14/16 2:59pm

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slowlywiltingflower said:

i think this is the absolute best idea for a tribute I've heard. Everything about it seems 'right' and it would have been a wonderful way to find closure (as much as one could) and pay respects in way, like you said, that Prince himself enjoyed hosting: having fans there at PP, enjoying the music, being together. I wish this could have been what happened in regards to a tribute. To me this would have been the perfect way to say 'goodbye' and 'thank you.'



disch said:


Someone above suggested that they should have done a Celebration at Paisley Park -- and that honestly would have been such a better idea: Open up PP for a weekend a la Prince's Celebrations, with his old bandmates etc. doing intimate shows, sharing stories with fans, lots of memorabilia on display, screenings of his movies, etc. Something like that could have been both a festive memorial and also a lovely tribute in line with the kinds of events P himself hosted -- and it would have attracted a full house of die-hards, I think



You would have needed many weekends to accommodate enough fans. This concert would have been great. I'd love to know what happened behind the scenes that they couldn't pull it off. And why they announced a date when it was clearly still very preliminary with no stadium booked, no acts secured. Sigh. sad
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Reply #262 posted 09/14/16 3:00pm

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disch said:

Someone above suggested that they should have done a Celebration at Paisley Park -- and that honestly would have been such a better idea: Open up PP for a weekend a la Prince's Celebrations, with his old bandmates etc. doing intimate shows, sharing stories with fans, lots of memorabilia on display, screenings of his movies, etc. Something like that could have been both a festive memorial and also a lovely tribute in line with the kinds of events P himself hosted -- and it would have attracted a full house of die-hards, I think.

slowlywiltingflower said:

I'm not mad at Morris. Just like Brownmark's apparant change in how sure he seemed about this tribute, I think something behind the scenes and out of the control of Morris and Mark happened and this whole fustercluck imploded further than the mess it was before. I firmly believe something happened in just the last few days that seems to have put the final blow to this dead horse of an idea. It's too bad. Prince deserved so so SO much better than this mess.


Nice idea, but it would shut out so many fans due to the scale.

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Reply #263 posted 09/14/16 3:05pm

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Totally agree about the money -- a weekend PP event would definitely not have been any kind of cash cow (more a break-even thing, at best). But now, if that stadium event gets cancelled, they make no $$ AND they've pissed off fans who they're going to depend on to buy future stuff from the estate.

I think they just bit off way more than they could chew with this whole stadium-show idea.

rogifan said:

disch said:

Someone above suggested that they should have done a Celebration at Paisley Park -- and that honestly would have been such a better idea: Open up PP for a weekend a la Prince's Celebrations, with his old bandmates etc. doing intimate shows, sharing stories with fans, lots of memorabilia on display, screenings of his movies, etc. Something like that could have been both a festive memorial and also a lovely tribute in line with the kinds of events P himself hosted -- and it would have attracted a full house of die-hards, I think.

But if this was also about needing to make $$ to help with legal fees, estate taxes etc. an event like that at PP wouldn't bring in the money that filling a 50K seat stadium would. It's still weird to me that just a few days ago BrownMark tweeted that he and Londell spoke and it was all good and he'd have more news soon. OK well we're almost to the end of another week with no news. Something obviously is preventing this from happening. I wish Londell or someone from the estate would just release a statement saying they ran into issues and it's being rescheduled for a later date. Yeah it sucks for those who bought plane tickets and hotel accommodations but I never would have done that without more concrete information, like when tickets would be on sale or an initial list of performers. I think the original statement was too vague to make plans off of. But I do feel bad for those that did.

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Reply #264 posted 09/14/16 3:05pm

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SquirrelMeat said:



rogifan said:


Nooriginalusername said:

Well, it appears Morris Day is out. He mysteriously deleted his last tweet about the Tribute Concert-now he's booked on the 14th in Jakarta, Indonesia. Couldn't possibly do both. Very pissed at him. At least Sheila E, immediately said she wasn't doing Minne. Morris said he was-advertising it and all-up until Sunday. I thonl the Tribute Concert is officially over cry



Wait...he's performing in Indonesia on the 14th and then back in the USA to perform with Sheila on the 15th in Cleveland? How is that possible? confused


He'll gain 12 hours flying back to the States, some coming back is achievable. But going out he'll lose 12 hours. So he can't do the tribute and Jakarta. He's removed Minn on the 13th on his schedule and added Jakarta on the 14th. Game over for The Time at the memorial.


I am still a bit skeptical that he would fly all the way to Indonesia only to turn around and fly back to the United States the next day (or would it be the same day?). And this is something he just added to his schedule this week? Weird. confused
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Reply #265 posted 09/14/16 3:09pm

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If Morris Day is busy, perhaps Jesse Johnson is available and can do a solo set!

Sly Stone can also join him for their duet.

Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis would also be awesome as performers at the memorial tribute.
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Reply #266 posted 09/14/16 3:13pm

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FlyOnTheWall said:



rogifan said:


2020 said:
If this is any indication how Londell handled Prince's affairs while he was alive no wonder P got rid of him....pathetic

This is an interesting question. Was he one of Prince's lawyers at the end? How did he end up becoming involved with Prince's affairs again?

yeahthat



That's the question I would like to know why did Londell stop been Princes lawyer
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Reply #267 posted 09/14/16 3:13pm

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disch said:

Totally agree about the money -- a weekend PP event would definitely not have been any kind of cash cow (more a break-even thing, at best). But now, if that stadium event gets cancelled, they make no $$ AND they've pissed off fans who they're going to depend on to buy future stuff from the estate.



I think they just bit off way more than they could chew with this whole stadium-show idea.


Totally agree about biting off more than they could chew. I still would love to know what the hell happened. Just a few days ago Londell is sending out cryptic keep the faith tweets and BrownMark is saying it's all good more to come...and then NOTHING. And what really sucks is I feel the opeining of PP for public tours was probably rushed so it would be open in time for anyone coming in to town for this concert. Well now that the concert doesn't look likely to happen there's no reason to rush to open PP yet tickets have already been sold so they have to move forward with it. What a shit show. neutral

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Reply #268 posted 09/14/16 3:15pm

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i also really can't stand that cryptic shit (perhaps that's their way of honoring P, who knows). Just come out and say in plain English where this thing stands.

rogifan said:

disch said:

Totally agree about the money -- a weekend PP event would definitely not have been any kind of cash cow (more a break-even thing, at best). But now, if that stadium event gets cancelled, they make no $$ AND they've pissed off fans who they're going to depend on to buy future stuff from the estate.

I think they just bit off way more than they could chew with this whole stadium-show idea.

Totally agree about biting off more than they could chew. I still would love to know what the hell happened. Just a few days ago Londell is sending out cryptic keep the faith tweets and BrownMark is saying it's all good more to come...and then NOTHING. And what really sucks is I feel the opeining of PP for public tours was probably rushed so it would be open in time for anyone coming in to town for this concert. Well now that the concert doesn't look likely to happen there's no reason to rush to open PP yet tickets have already been sold so they have to move forward with it. What a shit show. neutral

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Reply #269 posted 09/14/16 3:16pm

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Morris Day is performing in Maryland on Friday the 14th
and has another show booked the 15th. The 13th is still possible.
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