My concern is that whoever manages the estate -- including the tribute concert -- is someone who has the actual business knowledge to oversee this correctly (even if that means hiring the right team to manage the day-to-day). Just because someone was a musical associate of P or related to him, they might have no idea about all the issues involved in pulling off a huge stadium show -- let alone managing assets worth $300mm+

rogifan said:

FlyOnTheWall said: I have nothing against Sheila but who says she should be the one in charge of his legacy? I think it's just sad that these people can't all work together and do right by Prince. Put egos aside and work together. I doubt Sheila knows anything about managing an estate (or has time to oversee it) so work with Bremer and Londell and the family. Maybe she attempted to and they said no thanks. But somehow I doubt that. I'm curious did she and P reconcile before he passed. I know they had a falling out back in 2011/2012 but I'm wondering if they made up at some point. I'm not surprised they didn't work together in 2013-2015 because P was doing the whole 3rdEye thing.

http://www.billboard.com/articles/news/7341899/sheila-e-prince-memorial

Because Sheila knew Prince since his first record came out back in the 70's and performed with him more than any other band member. Her Tribute on BET, was one of the BEST, because she knew how his shows were done. High energy.

Sheila said she called several times in April to see how Prince was doing after his April emergency landing, and the security people answering the phone told her he was resting and doing fine.

Disch, you are so right. It is an extremely complicated enterprise to manage such an Estate, let alone a tribute concert. I run a small business and I know what I go through - I cannot imagine the team required to manage Prince's businesses.

musicfan77 said:

it is a bit discouraging to not know yet who is performing. I personally think it should be big acts, not just his local band members, if this is suppose to be the major tribute concert.

Remember that one award show where Prince was honored and other artists were singing his songs and he made all kind of faces, especially, at Alecia Keys, climbing on top of the piano? I can't recall the show, but he was sitting in the front row, with the woman from his band that has a shaved head. If anyone can, and knows what face I'm talking about that he made, feel free and post it.

I think Prince is very particular who sings his songs and how they sing it. He wants things done right and respectfully. I have no doubt about it.

Have they changed the date from Oct 13th to Oct 15th now?

That was the BET Awards. Prince and Shelby were trying their best not to break down laughing when Alicia climbed on the piano, big pregnant.

rogifan said:

2020 said:

If this is any indication how Londell handled Prince's affairs while he was alive no wonder P got rid of him....pathetic

This is an interesting question. Was he one of Prince's lawyers at the end? How did he end up becoming involved with Prince's affairs again?

purplethunder3121 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

musicfan77 said:

it is a bit discouraging to not know yet who is performing. I personally think it should be big acts, not just his local band members, if this is suppose to be the major tribute concert.

Remember that one award show where Prince was honored and other artists were singing his songs and he made all kind of faces, especially, at Alecia Keys, climbing on top of the piano? I can't recall the show, but he was sitting in the front row, with the woman from his band that has a shaved head. If anyone can, and knows what face I'm talking about that he made, feel free and post it.

I think Prince is very particular who sings his songs and how they sing it. He wants things done right and respectfully. I have no doubt about it.

Have they changed the date from Oct 13th to Oct 15th now?

That was the BET Awards. Prince and Shelby were trying their best not to break down laughing when Alicia climbed on the piano, big pregnant.

Prince was trying not to laugh...as he just about squeezed Shelby's hand off. Shelby could not contain it! She was full on laughing.

But, P was gracious about it and stood to clap when Keyes was finished. I think he appreciated that he was being honored.

teach49 said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

That was the BET Awards. Prince and Shelby were trying their best not to break down laughing when Alicia climbed on the piano, big pregnant.

Prince was trying not to laugh...as he just about squeezed Shelby's hand off. Shelby could not contain it! She was full on laughing.

But, P was gracious about it and stood to clap when Keyes was finished. I think he appreciated that he was being honored.

Actually Prince was terrified that Aleisha was going to fall and hurt herself and the baby while crawling on the piano. He grabbed Shelby's arm and only started smilimg when he saw Aleisha was okay.

purplethunder3121 said:

teach49 said:

Prince was trying not to laugh...as he just about squeezed Shelby's hand off. Shelby could not contain it! She was full on laughing.

But, P was gracious about it and stood to clap when Keyes was finished. I think he appreciated that he was being honored.

Actually Prince was terrified that Aleisha was going to fall and hurt herself and the baby while crawling on the piano. He grabbed Shelby's arm and only started smilimg when he saw Aleisha was okay.

And look at the face of the guy sitting behind them!! ROFL!! That's the first time I've noticed him. I bet this is one of Shelby's most treasured memories.

FlyOnTheWall said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Actually Prince was terrified that Aleisha was going to fall and hurt herself and the baby while crawling on the piano. He grabbed Shelby's arm and only started smilimg when he saw Aleisha was okay.

And look at the face of the guy sitting behind them!! ROFL!! That's the first time I've noticed him. I bet this is one of Shelby's most treasured memories.

OMG, the expression on that guy's face is classic! I hadn't notice him either.

Yes, P is concerned as well. I think he's going through many emotions actually, but he sure can't let himself laugh yet. Shelby, though, she just doesn't hold back (although I do think part of her laughter is about P's reaction).

Too funny!

purplethunder3121 said:

teach49 said:

Prince was trying not to laugh...as he just about squeezed Shelby's hand off. Shelby could not contain it! She was full on laughing.

But, P was gracious about it and stood to clap when Keyes was finished. I think he appreciated that he was being honored.

Actually Prince was terrified that Aleisha was going to fall and hurt herself and the baby while crawling on the piano. He grabbed Shelby's arm and only started smilimg when he saw Aleisha was okay.

Omg, the mix of everything going on in this gif is just hysterical. Shelby is cracking me up, I'd have been laughing just as hard as she was The dude behind them is transfixed!!!

2020 said:

If this is any indication how Londell handled Prince's affairs while he was alive no wonder P got rid of him....pathetic

purplethunder3121 said:

.

I know, right?! This whole thing is way too much!!

cloveringold85 said:

purplethunder3121 said:

.

I know, right?! This whole thing is way too much!!

Yeah, it's not like it's PRINCE himself we're going through this for... He was worth it.

rkayla said:

Well, it appears Morris Day is out. He mysteriously deleted his last tweet about the Tribute Concert-now he's booked on the 14th in Jakarta, Indonesia. Couldn't possibly do both. Very pissed at him. At least Sheila E, immediately said she wasn't doing Minne. Morris said he was-advertising it and all-up until Sunday. I thonl the Tribute Concert is officially over

Nooriginalusername said:

Well, it appears Morris Day is out. He mysteriously deleted his last tweet about the Tribute Concert-now he's booked on the 14th in Jakarta, Indonesia. Couldn't possibly do both. Very pissed at him. At least Sheila E, immediately said she wasn't doing Minne. Morris said he was-advertising it and all-up until Sunday. I thonl the Tribute Concert is officially over

I'm not mad at Morris. Just like Brownmark's apparant change in how sure he seemed about this tribute, I think something behind the scenes and out of the control of Morris and Mark happened and this whole fustercluck imploded further than the mess it was before. I firmly believe something happened in just the last few days that seems to have put the final blow to this dead horse of an idea. It's too bad. Prince deserved so so SO much better than this mess.

Someone above suggested that they should have done a Celebration at Paisley Park -- and that honestly would have been such a better idea: Open up PP for a weekend a la Prince's Celebrations, with his old bandmates etc. doing intimate shows, sharing stories with fans, lots of memorabilia on display, screenings of his movies, etc. Something like that could have been both a festive memorial and also a lovely tribute in line with the kinds of events P himself hosted -- and it would have attracted a full house of die-hards, I think.

slowlywiltingflower said:

Nooriginalusername said:

Well, it appears Morris Day is out. He mysteriously deleted his last tweet about the Tribute Concert-now he's booked on the 14th in Jakarta, Indonesia. Couldn't possibly do both. Very pissed at him. At least Sheila E, immediately said she wasn't doing Minne. Morris said he was-advertising it and all-up until Sunday. I thonl the Tribute Concert is officially over

I'm not mad at Morris. Just like Brownmark's apparant change in how sure he seemed about this tribute, I think something behind the scenes and out of the control of Morris and Mark happened and this whole fustercluck imploded further than the mess it was before. I firmly believe something happened in just the last few days that seems to have put the final blow to this dead horse of an idea. It's too bad. Prince deserved so so SO much better than this mess.

Nooriginalusername said:

i think this is the absolute best idea for a tribute I've heard. Everything about it seems 'right' and it would have been a wonderful way to find closure (as much as one could) and pay respects in way, like you said, that Prince himself enjoyed hosting: having fans there at PP, enjoying the music, being together. I wish this could have been what happened in regards to a tribute. To me this would have been the perfect way to say 'goodbye' and 'thank you.'

disch said:

Someone above suggested that they should have done a Celebration at Paisley Park -- and that honestly would have been such a better idea: Open up PP for a weekend a la Prince's Celebrations, with his old bandmates etc. doing intimate shows, sharing stories with fans, lots of memorabilia on display, screenings of his movies, etc. Something like that could have been both a festive memorial and also a lovely tribute in line with the kinds of events P himself hosted -- and it would have attracted a full house of die-hards, I think

disch said:

rogifan said:

Nooriginalusername said:

Well, it appears Morris Day is out. He mysteriously deleted his last tweet about the Tribute Concert-now he's booked on the 14th in Jakarta, Indonesia. Couldn't possibly do both. Very pissed at him. At least Sheila E, immediately said she wasn't doing Minne. Morris said he was-advertising it and all-up until Sunday. I thonl the Tribute Concert is officially over

Wait...he's performing in Indonesia on the 14th and then back in the USA to perform with Sheila on the 15th in Cleveland? How is that possible?

He'll gain 12 hours flying back to the States, some coming back is achievable. But going out he'll lose 12 hours. So he can't do the tribute and Jakarta. He's removed Minn on the 13th on his schedule and added Jakarta on the 14th. Game over for The Time at the memorial.

slowlywiltingflower said:

disch said:

Someone above suggested that they should have done a Celebration at Paisley Park -- and that honestly would have been such a better idea: Open up PP for a weekend a la Prince's Celebrations, with his old bandmates etc. doing intimate shows, sharing stories with fans, lots of memorabilia on display, screenings of his movies, etc. Something like that could have been both a festive memorial and also a lovely tribute in line with the kinds of events P himself hosted -- and it would have attracted a full house of die-hards, I think.

slowlywiltingflower said:

I'm not mad at Morris. Just like Brownmark's apparant change in how sure he seemed about this tribute, I think something behind the scenes and out of the control of Morris and Mark happened and this whole fustercluck imploded further than the mess it was before. I firmly believe something happened in just the last few days that seems to have put the final blow to this dead horse of an idea. It's too bad. Prince deserved so so SO much better than this mess.

Nice idea, but it would shut out so many fans due to the scale.

Totally agree about the money -- a weekend PP event would definitely not have been any kind of cash cow (more a break-even thing, at best). But now, if that stadium event gets cancelled, they make no $$ AND they've pissed off fans who they're going to depend on to buy future stuff from the estate.

I think they just bit off way more than they could chew with this whole stadium-show idea.

rogifan said:

disch said:

Someone above suggested that they should have done a Celebration at Paisley Park -- and that honestly would have been such a better idea: Open up PP for a weekend a la Prince's Celebrations, with his old bandmates etc. doing intimate shows, sharing stories with fans, lots of memorabilia on display, screenings of his movies, etc. Something like that could have been both a festive memorial and also a lovely tribute in line with the kinds of events P himself hosted -- and it would have attracted a full house of die-hards, I think.

But if this was also about needing to make $$ to help with legal fees, estate taxes etc. an event like that at PP wouldn't bring in the money that filling a 50K seat stadium would. It's still weird to me that just a few days ago BrownMark tweeted that he and Londell spoke and it was all good and he'd have more news soon. OK well we're almost to the end of another week with no news. Something obviously is preventing this from happening. I wish Londell or someone from the estate would just release a statement saying they ran into issues and it's being rescheduled for a later date. Yeah it sucks for those who bought plane tickets and hotel accommodations but I never would have done that without more concrete information, like when tickets would be on sale or an initial list of performers. I think the original statement was too vague to make plans off of. But I do feel bad for those that did.

SquirrelMeat said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

disch said:

i also really can't stand that cryptic shit (perhaps that's their way of honoring P, who knows). Just come out and say in plain English where this thing stands.

rogifan said:

disch said:

Totally agree about the money -- a weekend PP event would definitely not have been any kind of cash cow (more a break-even thing, at best). But now, if that stadium event gets cancelled, they make no $$ AND they've pissed off fans who they're going to depend on to buy future stuff from the estate.

I think they just bit off way more than they could chew with this whole stadium-show idea.

Totally agree about biting off more than they could chew. I still would love to know what the hell happened. Just a few days ago Londell is sending out cryptic keep the faith tweets and BrownMark is saying it's all good more to come...and then NOTHING. And what really sucks is I feel the opeining of PP for public tours was probably rushed so it would be open in time for anyone coming in to town for this concert. Well now that the concert doesn't look likely to happen there's no reason to rush to open PP yet tickets have already been sold so they have to move forward with it. What a shit show.