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Reply #270 posted 09/14/16 3:16pm

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rogifan said:

slowlywiltingflower said:

i think this is the absolute best idea for a tribute I've heard. Everything about it seems 'right' and it would have been a wonderful way to find closure (as much as one could) and pay respects in way, like you said, that Prince himself enjoyed hosting: having fans there at PP, enjoying the music, being together. I wish this could have been what happened in regards to a tribute. To me this would have been the perfect way to say 'goodbye' and 'thank you.'

You would have needed many weekends to accommodate enough fans. This concert would have been great. I'd love to know what happened behind the scenes that they couldn't pull it off. And why they announced a date when it was clearly still very preliminary with no stadium booked, no acts secured. Sigh. sad

I get your point but at the same time, I think a Celebration type event would have worked...maybe instead of a weekend it could've been 7 days. Prince had weeklong Celebrations and people flew in from all over the world for those (and admittedly, like everything else, concerts or any other kind of event, some people would have been able to come and some wouldn't have..there's no way to please or accomodate everyone and there will always be those left disappointed, it's unavoidable). For the Celebrations, some came for all week, some weren't able to be there the entire time and came for the time they could. I know we all have our own ideas about what would have worked best, or been best - but the more I think about a Celebration-type event, the more I like it and think it would have been far better than a one off concert with acts booked that either had no, or only a tenuous, connection to Prince and were mainly booked to put butts in seats and sell tickets

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I too would love to know why the concert fell through, though. Seems like from the start this was gone about the wrong way and all the problems organizing it just snowballed until the snowball finally crashed into a fence and that was that. (also my baseless speculation is 'people behind the scenes' - and by that I mean whoever was mainly in charge of organizing this - made too many assumptions and presumed a lot...they put the cart before the horse, so to speak.

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Reply #271 posted 09/14/16 3:21pm

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Well, it appears Morris Day is out. He mysteriously deleted his last tweet about the Tribute Concert-now he's booked on the 14th in Jakarta, Indonesia. Couldn't possibly do both. Very pissed at him. At least Sheila E, immediately said she wasn't doing Minne. Morris said he was-advertising it and all-up until Sunday. I thonl the Tribute Concert is officially over cry

I think Morris Day and The Time are actually in Maryland on Oct. 14, but the booking date is confusing as listed on his Facebook. It lists two locations. I took a screenshot.

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Reply #272 posted 09/14/16 3:23pm

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It's also incredibly odd that there isn't even an official spokesperson or channel for question -- there's no official event website or even an official PR agency fielding inquiries. It's basically just Londell's twitter account. The whole thing's so weird I'm happy that my trip to visit MPLS and go on the PP tour is not until the next weekend smile

slowlywiltingflower said:

rogifan said:

slowlywiltingflower said: You would have needed many weekends to accommodate enough fans. This concert would have been great. I'd love to know what happened behind the scenes that they couldn't pull it off. And why they announced a date when it was clearly still very preliminary with no stadium booked, no acts secured. Sigh. sad

I get your point but at the same time, I think a Celebration type event would have worked...maybe instead of a weekend it could've been 7 days. Prince had weeklong Celebrations and people flew in from all over the world for those (and admittedly, like everything else, concerts or any other kind of event, some people would have been able to come and some wouldn't have..there's no way to please or accomodate everyone and there will always be those left disappointed, it's unavoidable). For the Celebrations, some came for all week, some weren't able to be there the entire time and came for the time they could. I know we all have our own ideas about what would have worked best, or been best - but the more I think about a Celebration-type event, the more I like it and think it would have been far better than a one off concert with acts booked that either had no, or only a tenuous, connection to Prince and were mainly booked to put butts in seats and sell tickets

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I too would love to know why the concert fell through, though. Seems like from the start this was gone about the wrong way and all the problems organizing it just snowballed until the snowball finally crashed into a fence and that was that. (also my baseless speculation is 'people behind the scenes' - and by that I mean whoever was mainly in charge of organizing this - made too many assumptions and presumed a lot...they put the cart before the horse, so to speak.

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Reply #273 posted 09/14/16 3:26pm

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People. Morris is playing in Maryland on the 14th

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Reply #274 posted 09/14/16 3:30pm

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I'm over all this. My trip is booked and if there's a tribute I will go
If not, I'll still have a great time. All this back and forth is exhausting
"Paisley Park is in your Heart"
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Reply #275 posted 09/14/16 3:36pm

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jaynoonan said:

People. Morris is playing in Maryland on the 14th http://www.instantseats.c...9DA02A9D7E


Well something is amiss as his official facebook page has today added Jakarka on the 14th.

Mods can you point this to the sticky so we don't have repeat information all the time? Thanks. biggrin

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Reply #276 posted 09/14/16 3:40pm

FlyOnTheWall

SquirrelMeat said:

jaynoonan said:

People. Morris is playing in Maryland on the 14th http://www.instantseats.c...9DA02A9D7E


Well something is amiss as his official facebook page has today added Jakarka on the 14th.

Mods can you point this to the sticky so we don't have repeat information all the time? Thanks. biggrin

It actually lists Maryland and Indonesia. I'm pretty sure this is a typo. It's Maryland.

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Reply #277 posted 09/14/16 3:43pm

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FlyOnTheWall said:



SquirrelMeat said:




jaynoonan said:


People. Morris is playing in Maryland on the 14th http://www.instantseats.c...9DA02A9D7E


Well something is amiss as his official facebook page has today added Jakarka on the 14th.

Mods can you point this to the sticky so we don't have repeat information all the time? Thanks. biggrin




It actually lists Maryland and Indonesia. I'm pretty sure this is a typo. It's Maryland.


MDAT Screenshot



Since you can buy tix for Maryland. I'm going with Maryland
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Reply #278 posted 09/14/16 3:45pm

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jaynoonan said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

It actually lists Maryland and Indonesia. I'm pretty sure this is a typo. It's Maryland.

MDAT Screenshot

Since you can buy tix for Maryland. I'm going with Maryland


I going with him playing both. Now what time is it?? lol

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Reply #279 posted 09/14/16 3:58pm

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SquirrelMeat said:

jaynoonan said:

FlyOnTheWall said: Since you can buy tix for Maryland. I'm going with Maryland


I going with him playing both. Now what time is it?? lol

Time to get Morris his mirror!

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Reply #280 posted 09/14/16 3:59pm

LovePaisley

jaynoonan said:

I'm over all this. My trip is booked and if there's a tribute I will go
If not, I'll still have a great time. All this back and forth is exhausting

I'm right there with ya. comfort
It's a long time to be sad so long and then have to chase this event down all day every day on top of it. I'll still go if it happens and the plane ticket isn't $$$, but man, my heart is about done.
If I don't get there, thanks for all your hard work on the first ave tour and have a great time. Say hi to P for me. sigh It's so hard even to consider giving up.
And the MUSIC continues...forever...
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Reply #281 posted 09/14/16 4:03pm

FlyOnTheWall

[Edited 9/14/16 16:11pm]

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Reply #282 posted 09/14/16 4:10pm

FlyOnTheWall

FlyOnTheWall said:

Prince tribute concert in jeopardy

The manager for the only band confirmed to be playing in the October 13 Prince tribute concert now says the event might not happen.

Al Manerson, CEO of Red Velvet Entertainment and manager of Twin Cities-based Mint Condition, said in an email he just found out Wednesday afternoon that the concert might not take place.

I am totally disgusted by this whole situation. If this is any indication of how Prince's estate will be managed, Heaven forbid. It's like someone is deliberately attempting to tarnish his legacy...AND to prevent the estate from being able to pay estate taxes. This is not just ineptitude. It takes SERIOUS WORK to create a fiasco of this magnitude. I mean, if this tribute doesn't happen, how can Londell (or Prince's estate) ever be taken seriously again??????

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Reply #283 posted 09/14/16 4:23pm

rogifan

FlyOnTheWall said:



FlyOnTheWall said:


Prince tribute concert in jeopardy


The manager for the only band confirmed to be playing in the October 13 Prince tribute concert now says the event might not happen.




Al Manerson, CEO of Red Velvet Entertainment and manager of Twin Cities-based Mint Condition, said in an email he just found out Wednesday afternoon that the concert might not take place.





I am totally disgusted by this whole situation. If this is any indication of how Prince's estate will be managed, Heaven forbid. It's like someone is deliberately attempting to tarnish his legacy...AND to prevent the estate from being able to pay estate taxes. This is not just ineptitude. It takes SERIOUS WORK to create a fiasco of this magnitude. I mean, if this tribute doesn't happen, how can Londell (or Prince's estate) ever be taken seriously again?????



I'd love to know what happened. Something is seriously messed up. But at least no acts were officially announced and no tickets ever went on sale. I'll bet outside of local media and die hard fans this thing has been completely forgotten. But still if it's not happening the estate needs to say so.
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Reply #284 posted 09/14/16 4:24pm

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I'm not even going to Minneapolis, just following the developments because I'm hoping they will put it up on Pay For View or something, so my emotional investment in this is relatively little. But even I am exhausted by this. It's terrible that fams who are looking for closure after many months of sadness have been dragged through this ordeal disbelief sigh

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Reply #285 posted 09/14/16 4:29pm

slowlywiltingf
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FlyOnTheWall said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

Prince tribute concert in jeopardy

The manager for the only band confirmed to be playing in the October 13 Prince tribute concert now says the event might not happen.

I am totally disgusted by this whole situation. If this is any indication of how Prince's estate will be managed, Heaven forbid. It's like someone is deliberately attempting to tarnish his legacy...AND to prevent the estate from being able to pay estate taxes. This is not just ineptitude. It takes SERIOUS WORK to create a fiasco of this magnitude. I mean, if this tribute doesn't happen, how can Londell (or Prince's estate) ever be taken seriously again??????

I agree this is a pathetic fiasco, but nothing has made sense or seemed well-organized since the moment it was announced Prince had passed. This latest mess is just another in a numerous amount of messes that have appeared in these last 5 months. I respect your opinion, but I personally don't go for conspiracy theories and I don't think this monumental screwup in regards to the tribute stems back to anybody trying to deliberately tarnish Prince's legacy or prevent the estate from paying its taxes - I think it's the result of people making presumptions, prematurely blustering and making announcements before they should have, and (and this is my own speculation of what's happening behind the scenes) too many people being involved, those people being self-involved and being concerned about doing it THEIR WAY and butting heads when instead they should have been putting their heads TOGETHER and focusing on what truly mattered, which was giving Prince the tribute he (and his fans) deserved. Plus, as another orger pointed out, it seems like there was really no one or no entity given the lead to be a spokesman, or a touchstone about what was happening -- it was all soooo scattered (info, I mean. and the 'info' was always mostly meaningless cryptic baloney or perhaps a FB post that said how great the tribute would be or hinted at stuff, but again, in the end gave no actual definitive information). This thing was a mess because people didn't get their shit together and they didn't work together. I don't think it's a strategically planned sabatoge of Prince's legacy. But again, that's JMO. I know we all have our own thoughts on it all.

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Reply #286 posted 09/14/16 4:39pm

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disch said:

Someone above suggested that they should have done a Celebration at Paisley Park -- and that honestly would have been such a better idea: Open up PP for a weekend a la Prince's Celebrations, with his old bandmates etc. doing intimate shows, sharing stories with fans, lots of memorabilia on display, screenings of his movies, etc. Something like that could have been both a festive memorial and also a lovely tribute in line with the kinds of events P himself hosted -- and it would have attracted a full house of die-hards, I think.

slowlywiltingflower said:

I'm not mad at Morris. Just like Brownmark's apparant change in how sure he seemed about this tribute, I think something behind the scenes and out of the control of Morris and Mark happened and this whole fustercluck imploded further than the mess it was before. I firmly believe something happened in just the last few days that seems to have put the final blow to this dead horse of an idea. It's too bad. Prince deserved so so SO much better than this mess.

Exactly what I was envisioning. U even took it a step further. Love it.

I Love U, But I Don't Trust U Anymore...
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Reply #287 posted 09/14/16 4:43pm

emby

Gadotou said:

I'm not even going to Minneapolis, just following the developments because I'm hoping they will put it up on Pay For View or something, so my emotional investment in this is relatively little. But even I am exhausted by this. It's terrible that fams who are looking for closure after many months of sadness have been dragged through this ordeal disbelief sigh

yeahthat

Exactly.

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Reply #288 posted 09/14/16 4:45pm

rogifan

They need an official spokesperson for the estate. Someone that the media can contact. Londell puts out stuff on Twitter every now and then but I'm not aware of him being an official spokesperson. Thankfully the PP Museum is being handled by professionals who have done this before. Their reputation (along with the city of Chanhassen) is on the line so I have more faith that won't be screwed up.
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Reply #289 posted 09/14/16 4:50pm

FlyOnTheWall

slowlywiltingflower said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

I am totally disgusted by this whole situation. If this is any indication of how Prince's estate will be managed, Heaven forbid. It's like someone is deliberately attempting to tarnish his legacy...AND to prevent the estate from being able to pay estate taxes. This is not just ineptitude. It takes SERIOUS WORK to create a fiasco of this magnitude. I mean, if this tribute doesn't happen, how can Londell (or Prince's estate) ever be taken seriously again??????

I agree this is a pathetic fiasco, but nothing has made sense or seemed well-organized since the moment it was announced Prince had passed. This latest mess is just another in a numerous amount of messes that have appeared in these last 5 months. I respect your opinion, but I personally don't go for conspiracy theories and I don't think this monumental screwup in regards to the tribute stems back to anybody trying to deliberately tarnish Prince's legacy or prevent the estate from paying its taxes - I think it's the result of people making presumptions, prematurely blustering and making announcements before they should have, and (and this is my own speculation of what's happening behind the scenes) too many people being involved, those people being self-involved and being concerned about doing it THEIR WAY and butting heads when instead they should have been putting their heads TOGETHER and focusing on what truly mattered, which was giving Prince the tribute he (and his fans) deserved. Plus, as another orger pointed out, it seems like there was really no one or no entity given the lead to be a spokesman, or a touchstone about what was happening -- it was all soooo scattered (info, I mean. and the 'info' was always mostly meaningless cryptic baloney or perhaps a FB post that said how great the tribute would be or hinted at stuff, but again, in the end gave no actual definitive information). This thing was a mess because people didn't get their shit together and they didn't work together. I don't think it's a strategically planned sabatoge of Prince's legacy. But again, that's JMO. I know we all have our own thoughts on it all.

Alls I know is this: There is a VAST fortune at stake. The value of Prince's masters and unreleased music is INCALCULABLE; however, if his estate can't pay the taxes, then they might just have to resort to selling off pieces of his catalogue, and you can bet that they would end up being sold for a song, no pun intended. Already, there were reports of a possible "fire sale" to pay taxes. People are sometimes quick to dismiss complex ideas as "conspiracy theories." But, sometimes things don't make sense by design.

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Reply #290 posted 09/14/16 6:08pm

YaThink

We need to put the complexity of this estate and all of the legalities into perspective.
No matter what happens, know this...
The state of affairs of the tribute should in no way be associated with any lack of respect, love or appreciation of his fans by the family.
There is an endless amount of love for Prince by everyone involved I'm sure.
I know we all want this to happen, we just need to be patient.
I'm sure we will hear definitive news soon.

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Reply #291 posted 09/14/16 6:22pm

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There is a complicated protocol the Estate has to follow when they attempt to enter into a business agreement.

The potential heirs can file objections to potential Estate business agreements.

It very well could be some of the heirs are not in agreement on how the Stadium Tribute should be handled financially and/or other issues with the Tribute.

But who knows for sure because everything is so secretive in the handling of the Estate.

Just saying.

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Reply #292 posted 09/14/16 6:32pm

Freeyourself

jaynoonan said:

I'm over all this. My trip is booked and if there's a tribute I will go
If not, I'll still have a great time. All this back and forth is exhausting


I agree. I think we all should start making a "Plan B" for Thurs. A group get-together, celebration or even touring around together. Let's have a good time and celebrate Him!!! Anyone have suggestions?
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Reply #293 posted 09/14/16 6:34pm

FlyOnTheWall

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

There is a complicated protocol the Estate has to follow when they attempt to enter into a business agreement.

The potential heirs can file objections to potential Estate business agreements.

It very well could be some of the heirs are not in agreement on how the Stadium Tribute should be handled financially and/or other issues with the Tribute.

But who knows for sure because everything is so secretive in the handling of the Estate.

Just saying.

In view of all the complexities and legalities, I just wish they had not made any announcement until: 1) There was a signed contract in hand for the venue;
2)Performers had been booked; and 3) Tickets were on sale.

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Reply #294 posted 09/14/16 6:35pm

FlyOnTheWall

But, who knows, maybe there will be a big announcement tomorrow.

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Reply #295 posted 09/14/16 6:46pm

YaThink

FlyOnTheWall said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:


There is a complicated protocol the Estate has to follow when they attempt to enter into a business agreement.


The potential heirs can file objections to potential Estate business agreements.


It very well could be some of the heirs are not in agreement on how the Stadium Tribute should be handled financially and/or other issues with the Tribute.


But who knows for sure because everything is so secretive in the handling of the Estate.


Just saying.



In view of all the complexities and legalities, I just wish they had not made any announcement until: 1) There was a signed contract in hand for the venue;
2)Performers had been booked; and 3) Tickets were on sale.



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Reply #296 posted 09/14/16 6:47pm

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Freeyourself said:

jaynoonan said:
I'm over all this. My trip is booked and if there's a tribute I will go If not, I'll still have a great time. All this back and forth is exhausting
I agree. I think we all should start making a "Plan B" for Thurs. A group get-together, celebration or even touring around together. Let's have a good time and celebrate Him!!! Anyone have suggestions?

Here's my thought. I really think it would be neat if we all could get together somewhere, even if it's the movie theaters that we already have reserved and try to play some of Prince's recorded concerts. There's bound to be some available somewhere. It would be neat to have one concert from his earlier days (1999 or before), maybe Purple Rain, and maybe the one where he's playing his piano. I would be thrilled to watch any or all of those. Do you think it would be hard to find any of his concerts recorded?

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Reply #297 posted 09/14/16 6:53pm

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FlyOnTheWall said:

But, who knows, maybe there will be a big announcement tomorrow.



Tomorrow will be 4 weeks to the day from the "supposed" concert date. I will keep hope alive for one more day but am already trying to make Plan B for Thurs. Hope it works out but doubtful. Either way, I'm looking forward to coming, paying my respects at PP, meeting people and celebrating a life that meant so much to so many. We may not get a tribute concert, but HE has our hearts and souls. Not going to let disorganization a and chaos ruin it. P deserves better. Can't wait to celebrate all things PURPLE.
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Reply #298 posted 09/14/16 6:56pm

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Freeyourself said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

But, who knows, maybe there will be a big announcement tomorrow.

Tomorrow will be 4 weeks to the day from the "supposed" concert date. I will keep hope alive for one more day but am already trying to make Plan B for Thurs. Hope it works out but doubtful. Either way, I'm looking forward to coming, paying my respects at PP, meeting people and celebrating a life that meant so much to so many. We may not get a tribute concert, but HE has our hearts and souls. Not going to let disorganization a and chaos ruin it. P deserves better. Can't wait to celebrate all things PURPLE.

Yes... my thoughts exactly!

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Reply #299 posted 09/14/16 6:57pm

YaThink

Freeyourself said:

FlyOnTheWall said:

But, who knows, maybe there will be a big announcement tomorrow.



Tomorrow will be 4 weeks to the day from the "supposed" concert date. I will keep hope alive for one more day but am already trying to make Plan B for Thurs. Hope it works out but doubtful. Either way, I'm looking forward to coming, paying my respects at PP, meeting people and celebrating a life that meant so much to so many. We may not get a tribute concert, but HE has our hearts and souls. Not going to let disorganization a and chaos ruin it. P deserves better. Can't wait to celebrate all things PURPLE.


💜 That's the spirit! We will enjoy what Minneapolis has to offer. There will be much to do, both in and around the city I'm sure 💜
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