terrig said:

luvgirl said:

LBrent said:

luvgirl said:

What are the rumors between them. Did they or didn't they?

I saw in an article that she didn't like this.

You saw an article that she didnt like having her temperature taken?

Thats sad smut.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

LBrent said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

You saw an article that she didnt like having her temperature taken?

Thats sad smut.

Yeah, she said she felt it made her feel like a "hoe" and she felt it undermined her as a musician. Oops! http://prince.org/msg/7/431759?pg=1 (I guess that link with post #17 sorta slipped from my fingers, huh? How clumsy of me!) [Edited 9/4/16 22:40pm]

LBrent, you are righteous!!

Well, here's a statement in his last Rolling Stone article which shows me he'd love this thread.

"I can take you out there and hit this guitar for you," Prince promised earlier, "and what you'll hear is sex. You will hear something where you'd run out of adjectives, like you do when you meet the finest woman."

Followed up by: "You're gonna start vibrating in a second," he tells me. One second? Damn.

SpinsterSister said:

NinaB said:

babynoz said:

Yep, his art encompassed many facets and he expressed all sorts of ideas therein.

In addition to music discussions, 2 weeks after Prince passed I posted a thread showcasing the essays he used to post on L4OA and in the Knowledge Room on NPGMC. Not one of these high and mighty mofos posted a single comment.

Furthermore, there was no notification from anyone about anything that was posted being against the site rules. This is Music and MORE, right?

I remember. I was all up in there screenshoting You kno in all seriousness, since April I've felt (& seen) a lot of beautiful energy amongst a lot of the women here. It's always been here, but it's different now...don't kno how 2 verbalise it. It's been very heartening 2 me, esp on the rough days. Can we just get a spot here where MF's ain't allowed entry please?!

Totally...I have made contact with a lot of women, both here and in other places, since April, and it's been really powerful...this coming together to share our grief and to celebrate him. A few of us wrote a letter to Jill Jones after the fb thing where she was talking about seeing P at D's memorial and thinking there was something up with him...and she wrote back "What an incredible sisterhood. For this I am certain he smiles." So, I reckon we keep on doing just exactly what we're doing....

LBrent said:

babynoz said:

Hopefully this thread is still here tomorrow or another one so I can return with fresh gifs.


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I think they should be called "gifts" not gifs !!!!!!!

laurarichardson said:

laurarichardson said:

LBrent said:

I saw in an article that she didn't like this.

----- I read an article were she was asked if they were just pretending to kiss(WTF) she said it would be no fun to pretend. I will never buy that he forced anyone to do anything they did not want to do. I think people get older and look back with regret.

Well in some ways I'm sure it did undermine her as a musician - but that doesnt mean the sexuality is wrong - it means that the attitudes about are wrong. Also music is male dominated and the writing about it is male dominated and the attitudes about it are male dominated....


Clearly men dont have to apologize for being in their underwear and playing guitar...only women really have to defend whether they're a ho or not - and that attitude has to hit the bricks - because you can be a kick ass musician like Gayle and crawl up under a sexy guitar player like Prince and still be a kickass musician, like Gayle.

I can understand why Gayle would feel conflicted though - because women have to think about how others perceive them and Princes success was very much driven by pushing those attitudes back in peoples faces.

edited to add: at the time Prince was questioned about his sexuality as well though under the veil of homosexuality - people at the time couldnt put it together that you could wear thigh highs and a thong as a man and be straight lolololol

So especially in the early years Prince used everyone elses confusion about gender roles to his advantage and from Gayles statements its not like EVERYONE wasnt challenged to exmine their own perceptions and biases.

[Edited 9/5/16 7:01am]

LBrent said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Does anyone know where I can find buttons similar to the ones on P's pants?

I am learning to sew and I think they would make a fabulous addition to the shorts I am sewing.

Sorry, can't help you with finding the buttons, but all is not lost...I think I found...his guitar (or at least the guitar neck!)

I found buttons like this...... in my bed....

::cuemorrislaugh::

terrig said:

laurarichardson said:

LBrent said: ----- I read an article were she was asked if they were just pretending to kiss(WTF) she said it would be no fun to pretend. I will never buy that he forced anyone to do anything they did not want to do. I think people get older and look back with regret.

Well in some ways I'm sure it did undermine her as a musician - but that doesnt mean the sexuality is wrong - it means that the attitudes about are wrong. Also music is male dominated and the writing about it is male dominated and the attitudes about it are male dominated....


Clearly men dont have to apologize for being in their underwear and playing guitar...only women really have to defend whether they're a ho or not - and that attitude has to hit the bricks - because you can be a kick ass musician like Gayle and crawl up under a sexy guitar player like Prince and still be a kickass musician, like Gayle.

I can understand why Gayle would feel conflicted though - because women have to think about how others perceive them and Princes success was very much driven by pushing those attitudes back in peoples faces.

I think this is really interesting...because yeah, I can see why she would feel conflicted too, and you're entirely right, it's about other people's (by which I mean mostly men's attitudes)...it's the same thing I feel when I see a 16 year old girl wandering around in almost nothing hotpants...I want it to be safe for her to do that, and I want us to live in a world in which her doing that meant men didn't see her as being a lesser person...but we don't, and so I also feel anxious for her, because when I was that age, I too thought I could behave exactly the way I wanted to, and I soon found out that really wasn't true. I think maybe this is also what the men don't get when they see us appreciating P's sexuality, they think somehow that means we think less, or don't think of him as a person...that we a reducing him to an object...just as the appreciation of women as sexual is so often about seeing them as objects...and that somehow therefore we don't appreciate him as a musician, or as a philanthropist, or any of the other amazing things about him...and that isn't the case at all....

jayseajay said:

terrig said:

Well in some ways I'm sure it did undermine her as a musician - but that doesnt mean the sexuality is wrong - it means that the attitudes about are wrong. Also music is male dominated and the writing about it is male dominated and the attitudes about it are male dominated....


Clearly men dont have to apologize for being in their underwear and playing guitar...only women really have to defend whether they're a ho or not - and that attitude has to hit the bricks - because you can be a kick ass musician like Gayle and crawl up under a sexy guitar player like Prince and still be a kickass musician, like Gayle.

I can understand why Gayle would feel conflicted though - because women have to think about how others perceive them and Princes success was very much driven by pushing those attitudes back in peoples faces.

I think this is really interesting...because yeah, I can see why she would feel conflicted too, and you're entirely right, it's about other people's (by which I mean mostly men's attitudes)...it's the same thing I feel when I see a 16 year old girl wandering around in almost nothing hotpants...I want it to be safe for her to do that, and I want us to live in a world in which her doing that meant men didn't see her as being a lesser person...but we don't, and so I also feel anxious for her, because when I was that age, I too thought I could behave exactly the way I wanted to, and I soon found out that really wasn't true. I think maybe this is also what the men don't get when they see us appreciating P's sexuality, they think somehow that means we think less, or don't think of him as a person...that we a reducing him to an object...just as the appreciation of women as sexual is so often about seeing them as objects...and that somehow therefore we don't appreciate him as a musician, or as a philanthropist, or any of the other amazing things about him...and that isn't the case at all....

YES! And imho men have a hard time understanding womens expression of sexuality that doesnt include us serving it to them. Prince served his sexuality to US in the way women serve our sexuality to men.

Us appreciating that makes mens tiny brains explode. Does not compute. Must be something in the water they drink lolololol


They get mad when we leer, like they do. Hypocrites.

[Edited 9/5/16 7:17am]

terrig said:

jayseajay said:

I think this is really interesting...because yeah, I can see why she would feel conflicted too, and you're entirely right, it's about other people's (by which I mean mostly men's attitudes)...it's the same thing I feel when I see a 16 year old girl wandering around in almost nothing hotpants...I want it to be safe for her to do that, and I want us to live in a world in which her doing that meant men didn't see her as being a lesser person...but we don't, and so I also feel anxious for her, because when I was that age, I too thought I could behave exactly the way I wanted to, and I soon found out that really wasn't true. I think maybe this is also what the men don't get when they see us appreciating P's sexuality, they think somehow that means we think less, or don't think of him as a person...that we a reducing him to an object...just as the appreciation of women as sexual is so often about seeing them as objects...and that somehow therefore we don't appreciate him as a musician, or as a philanthropist, or any of the other amazing things about him...and that isn't the case at all....

YES! And imho men have a hard time understanding womens expression of sexuality that doesnt include us serving it to them. Prince served his sexuality to US in the way women serve our sexuality to men.

Us appreciating that makes mens tiny brains explode. Does not compute. Must be something in the water they drink lolololol


They get mad when we leer, like they do. Hypocrites.

[Edited 9/5/16 7:17am]

Yeah...that's what really bugs me about the whole 'he was such a pimp' thing. Sure he had that aspect to his persona, but that isn't what made him so seductive...it was so much less about what he wanted us to do for him than about what he wanted to do for us...and communicating that he cared about and understood what turned us on, that what got him off was getting us off... Calling him a pimp is a way of erasing that and making his sexuality more comfortable for them...making it about him dominating us rather than pleasing us... Nuhuh.

jayseajay said:

terrig said:

YES! And imho men have a hard time understanding womens expression of sexuality that doesnt include us serving it to them. Prince served his sexuality to US in the way women serve our sexuality to men.

Us appreciating that makes mens tiny brains explode. Does not compute. Must be something in the water they drink lolololol


They get mad when we leer, like they do. Hypocrites.

[Edited 9/5/16 7:17am]

Yeah...that's what really bugs me about the whole 'he was such a pimp' thing. Sure he had that aspect to his persona, but that isn't what made him so seductive...it was so much less about what he wanted us to do for him than about what he wanted to do for us...and communicating that he cared about and understood what turned us on, that what got him off was getting us off... Calling him a pimp is a way of erasing that and making his sexuality more comfortable for them...making it about him dominating us rather than pleasing us... Nuhuh.

I think the pimp definition is appropriate ALSO. Prince in many ways knew how to use a womans love to get what he wanted how he wanted. In many ways he led us around buy making us fall in love - so I think yes a pimp for sure day to day - onstage he was our every dream come true.

He was both - just like he was rock n roll and he was funk - he was both slave and master.

Thats why the man is an icon. He was EVERYTHING and created his own world where he was God.

Fcking brilliant.

terrig said:

jayseajay said:

Yeah...that's what really bugs me about the whole 'he was such a pimp' thing. Sure he had that aspect to his persona, but that isn't what made him so seductive...it was so much less about what he wanted us to do for him than about what he wanted to do for us...and communicating that he cared about and understood what turned us on, that what got him off was getting us off... Calling him a pimp is a way of erasing that and making his sexuality more comfortable for them...making it about him dominating us rather than pleasing us... Nuhuh.

I think the pimp definition is appropriate ALSO. Prince in many ways knew how to use a womans love to get what he wanted how he wanted. In many ways he led us around buy making us fall in love - so I think yes a pimp for sure day to day - onstage he was our every dream come true.

He was both - just like he was rock n roll and he was funk - he was both slave and master.

Thats why the man is an icon. He was EVERYTHING and created his own world where he was God.

Fcking brilliant.

Yeah, I think you're right that it's really right emotionally...I think he was extremely emotionally controlling/dominating...but weirdly I don't think he was sexually controlling/dominating...and even more weirdly, I think his ability to be so emotionally controlling was a product of the fact he was so fucking sexy because his sexuality was really open. So yeah, complicated....

babynoz said:

terrig said:

jayseajay said:

Yeah...that's what really bugs me about the whole 'he was such a pimp' thing. Sure he had that aspect to his persona, but that isn't what made him so seductive...it was so much less about what he wanted us to do for him than about what he wanted to do for us...and communicating that he cared about and understood what turned us on, that what got him off was getting us off... Calling him a pimp is a way of erasing that and making his sexuality more comfortable for them...making it about him dominating us rather than pleasing us... Nuhuh.

I think the pimp definition is appropriate ALSO. Prince in many ways knew how to use a womans love to get what he wanted how he wanted. In many ways he led us around buy making us fall in love - so I think yes a pimp for sure day to day - onstage he was our every dream come true.

He was both - just like he was rock n roll and he was funk - he was both slave and master.

Thats why the man is an icon. He was EVERYTHING and created his own world where he was God.

Fcking brilliant.

Hooray for us middle age ladies! Girls, you all make me so proud to be my age right now!

Our main man was all that and so much more! I do call him Pimp Daddy when I see certain early photos of him, like in the fedora, white tank and stubble...oh yea, that's hot.

What I am trying to say is that, the power of "love" is strong and can be mutually beneficial or used as a weapon.

Our man taught us that we have the right to our feelings, thoughts and bodies - nobody "owned" us or had sexual rights with us....it had to include love and God. He demonstrated that love for us, to us...and yep, he did it nasty too!

That is part of the glorious thing - we can be nasty, we can be saintly, we can be motherly, or we can be the dominant in whatever WE wanted, whenever WE wanted. Who better to teach that to us than a man who seemed so secure with his own sexuality and power (at least on stage) instead of an insecure man who would put the brakes on our mighty train?

Besides he posessed a beautiful body and loved to show us ladies his "gifts", that yea, we deserved all that too and I am sure he would've obliged us.

jayseajay said:

babynoz said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

I especially like P's beautiful hands in this gif.

LMAO! I think he has quite a lovely hairstyle there too....

i love how his shoes matches his outfit

terrig said:

LBrent said:

terrig said:

YES! And imho men have a hard time understanding womens expression of sexuality that doesnt include us serving it to them. Prince served his sexuality to US in the way women serve our sexuality to men.

Us appreciating that makes mens tiny brains explode. Does not compute. Must be something in the water they drink lolololol


They get mad when we leer, like they do. Hypocrites.

[Edited 9/5/16 7:17am]

Guuuuuuurl!

crysniss3976 said:

babynoz said:

LMAO! I think he has quite a lovely hairstyle there too....

i love how his shoes matches his outfit

SpinsterSister said:

"What do you believe in?"

"God."

"Who is your God?"

"You."

SpinsterSister said:

mimi1956 said:

This who you're talking about Sister? Just popped in, I'm alone on the good thread right now

yep, that's the type...but his red flower on his lapel should be drooping down, you know wilted or flaccid but hey, we need a comparable photo for the younger wet blankets too...let us try to find it!

This is what they act like!