What I want to know is, who stole his shoes?!!! Had to be a woman right? And who put his clothes on backwards?!?! Probably the same person who stole his shoes. This is all very confusing
You got jokes? I and one other Orger asked about his shoes not being in the list of what he was found wearing. I never said they were stolen. I questioned whether he was dressed by someone post mortem, the person dressing him forgetting to put on his shoes in the chaos of the moment. It struck me as a small but possibly important detail.
Why put on socks at all if you have a medical emergency much less backward and a hat. How do you put a pill bottle in a backward pocket. Was the security cameras on?
It keeps being said that if P was seriously ill, why wasn't he under a doctor, taking legitimate medication...
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What if he (P) hadn't gone to a doctor about his symptoms, up until April (Dr S)???
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What if he was in denial about being ill and didn't want medical confirmation and it was only in April that he had things investigated?
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What if he was attempting to self-medicate; the 'supposed' OD on the plane wasn't *just* an OD but part of some hidden illness, and that Judith's finally managing to convince him to see a doctor was both for withdrawal (from the self-administered meds) AND to manage any illness he might have..?
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What if nobody knew he was ill, and he was going to attend rehab just to appease them all, knowing all the while that he had a condition none of them knew about???
My dad hated doctors. Refused to see s doctor in his adult life. The last year of his life we knew something was wrong but he would not go. He self medicated the pain in his back. Finally he went and it was end stage liver cancer. did biopsy and closed him right back up BC it had spread thru his body. They gave us 6 months tops but he lived only 4 weeks. Just saying that people do that.....it's not out of the realm of possibilities
Yup I've said it for weeks.
I think he found out he had end stage cancer and decided to live his favorite way, working until the end.
Very beautifully said. I agree with you! I think Prince always longed for "true love". I only wish he had that true love by his side, and he was still with us.
If he wanted true love he would have not been running around chasing 20 something's in his 50s.
I think sick or not he was still being a sugar daddy up to his dying day. He was doing what he wanted to do. He appears to have been juggling a few woman in the last few years.
I think Prince was always around these 20-something's because they were young and aspiring artist and he had a "connection" with them, not sure if they were "all" romantic.
He did have a "thing" for Tamron Hall, and she is not a 20-something. She is in her 40s.
"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
I've never been on Twitter (well,I had an account for about 2 seconds once but never really used it...) and I am not well versed about the ins and out of it, and so would frequently get mixed up and confused reading thru P's tweets trying to figure out what was HIM, what was a retweet, what was an @, etc (especially if there were a few '@'s in a row)! haha I'm an oldster, I don't understand the Twitter
It's funny because I don't find Twitter confusing at all yet I know so many people that don't get how to use it.
There should be a TwitterEZ or Twitter-Lite version for those of us that fall into that "WTH how do I use this? What does that mean??" group
Very beautifully said. I agree with you! I think Prince always longed for "true love". I only wish he had that true love by his side, and he was still with us.
If he wanted true love he would have not been running around chasing 20 something's in his 50s.
I think sick or not he was still being a sugar daddy up to his dying day. He was doing what he wanted to do. He appears to have been juggling a few woman in the last few years.
I think Prince was always around these 20-something's because they were young and aspiring artist and he had a "connection" with them, not sure if they were "all" romantic.
He did have a "thing" for Tamron Hall, and she is not a 20-something. She is in her 40s.
Unfortunately it seems any women he was friends with with people immediately assume it was romantic/sexual. I think Damaris had to post a picture of her BF because everyone assumed she and Prince were romantically involved.
I think Prince was always around these 20-something's because they were young and aspiring artist and he had a "connection" with them, not sure if they were "all" romantic.
He did have a "thing" for Tamron Hall, and she is not a 20-something. She is in her 40s.
Unfortunately it seems any women he was friends with with people immediately assume it was romantic/sexual. I think Damaris had to post a picture of her BF because everyone assumed she and Prince were romantically involved.
I agree people automatically assume that, but just because she posted a pic of her boyfriend, doesn't mean she wasn't gettin a slice of the purple pie on the side.
That being said, I believe she was not romantically involved with him, mostly due to it going against every part of his faith which he adhered to rigorously.
"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
not a user of fentynal,, they didnt say he wasnt a long term user of vicdon, percs and or zanax which would kill you as well...They stated 20 differnt pill cases, pills in advil and vitamins...Further, people under doctors care who are terminal get meds.. Its disheartening to hear people who wont even consider the remote possibilty that he did indeed have a drug dependency and it caused his death
Or folks that wont even consider the real possibility that all this stuff was planted after the fact by whoever offed him to create the appearance of someone with a serious problem who is out of control.
out of respect for prince, i'm trying hard NOT to consider that.
i'm having a hard time embracing the 'prince was deliberately murdered in a hit-style attack'. on the other hand, quite a few people were benefiting from his generosity. he was vulnerable in the best kind of way, insofar as he was known to lend a helping hand.
warner brothers has a $hit ton to gain from prince's passing. TMZ was absolutely harassing him before his death.
however, in my lurid mind's eye lurks this scenario that maybe prince wasn't alone that night, but was with someone when he suffered a seizure...?
this is PURE SPECULATION from the imagination of someone who watches way too many scary movies:
we all keep saying how we would never have left prince alone, how it's impossible that no one was concerned enough to be there for him. well, maybe the obvious is true. maybe he wasn't alone.
imagine, it would sure as heck be awkward explaining one's presence when a superstar ODs on something fatal righjt in front of you, especially if you provided the dose and/or knew who did.... god what a sad thought. i apologize for letting my mind run on this way.
but could he have been with someone trying to help him make it until the morning when help would arrive? maybe he called an old or new friend over. he was known to call people in the middle of the night and ask them to come over.....
what if someone was with him? dressed him in a hurry and tried to get him downstairs to the car, all while protecting his privacy and avoiding 911??
i apologize again for sharing this fetid little blast of imagination with you. but since you mentioned it, this is what i see as maybe having happened, assuming that foul play is involved.
out of respect for prince, i'm trying hard NOT to consider that.
i'm having a hard time embracing the 'prince was deliberately murdered in a hit-style attack'. on the other hand, quite a few people were benefiting from his generosity. he was vulnerable in the best kind of way, insofar as he was known to lend a helping hand.
warner brothers has a $hit ton to gain from prince's passing. TMZ was absolutely harassing him before his death.
however, in my lurid mind's eye lurks this scenario that maybe prince wasn't alone that night, but was with someone when he suffered a seizure...?
this is PURE SPECULATION from the imagination of someone who watches way too many scary movies:
we all keep saying how we would never have left prince alone, how it's impossible that no one was concerned enough to be there for him. well, maybe the obvious is true. maybe he wasn't alone.
imagine, it would sure as heck be awkward explaining one's presence when a superstar ODs on something fatal righjt in front of you, especially if you provided the dose and/or knew who did.... god what a sad thought. i apologize for letting my mind run on this way.
but could he have been with someone trying to help him make it until the morning when help would arrive? maybe he called an old or new friend over. he was known to call people in the middle of the night and ask them to come over.....
what if someone was with him? dressed him in a hurry and tried to get him downstairs to the car, all while protecting his privacy and avoiding 911??
i apologize again for sharing this fetid little blast of imagination with you. but since you mentioned it, this is what i see as maybe having happened, assuming that foul play is involved.
Don't be sorry. This has also crossed my mind more than once.
ya, people do panic and leave a dying person to die. I read that the people around Jimi Hendrix panicked and ran too, don't know if that's true or not, you hear so much shit.
So damn sad for him, for his family for all of us everywhere still grieving and looking for a way to feel better, when there is no way to feel better about this.
The thread goes through insanity and in circles but its just people trying to process their grief. Its best to let everything out no matter how strange and sit with sifting through all the feelings.
Someday we'll know and until then we have each other as crazy as we all can be. We do have each other here.
I think Prince was always around these 20-something's because they were young and aspiring artist and he had a "connection" with them, not sure if they were "all" romantic.
He did have a "thing" for Tamron Hall, and she is not a 20-something. She is in her 40s.
Unfortunately it seems any women he was friends with with people immediately assume it was romantic/sexual. I think Damaris had to post a picture of her BF because everyone assumed she and Prince were romantically involved.
I agree people automatically assume that, but just because she posted a pic of her boyfriend, doesn't mean she wasn't gettin a slice of the purple pie on the side.
That being said, I believe she was not romantically involved with him, mostly due to it going against every part of his faith which he adhered to rigorously.
I just think it's incredibly disrespectful to the man (and these women) to assume he was screwing every woman he had any association with. But I know plenty think differently so I'm sure I'm in the minority.
I agree people automatically assume that, but just because she posted a pic of her boyfriend, doesn't mean she wasn't gettin a slice of the purple pie on the side.
That being said, I believe she was not romantically involved with him, mostly due to it going against every part of his faith which he adhered to rigorously.
I just think it's incredibly disrespectful to the man (and these women) to assume he was screwing every woman he had any association with. But I know plenty think differently so I'm sure I'm in the minority.
I agree with that, folks that dont know what he is really about, most people, automatically come to that conclusion. But we all know better.
"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
out of respect for prince, i'm trying hard NOT to consider that.
i'm having a hard time embracing the 'prince was deliberately murdered in a hit-style attack'. on the other hand, quite a few people were benefiting from his generosity. he was vulnerable in the best kind of way, insofar as he was known to lend a helping hand.
warner brothers has a $hit ton to gain from prince's passing. TMZ was absolutely harassing him before his death.
however, in my lurid mind's eye lurks this scenario that maybe prince wasn't alone that night, but was with someone when he suffered a seizure...?
this is PURE SPECULATION from the imagination of someone who watches way too many scary movies:
we all keep saying how we would never have left prince alone, how it's impossible that no one was concerned enough to be there for him. well, maybe the obvious is true. maybe he wasn't alone.
imagine, it would sure as heck be awkward explaining one's presence when a superstar ODs on something fatal righjt in front of you, especially if you provided the dose and/or knew who did.... god what a sad thought. i apologize for letting my mind run on this way.
but could he have been with someone trying to help him make it until the morning when help would arrive? maybe he called an old or new friend over. he was known to call people in the middle of the night and ask them to come over.....
what if someone was with him? dressed him in a hurry and tried to get him downstairs to the car, all while protecting his privacy and avoiding 911??
i apologize again for sharing this fetid little blast of imagination with you. but since you mentioned it, this is what i see as maybe having happened, assuming that foul play is involved.
Don't be sorry. This has also crossed my mind more than once.
Very beautifully said. I agree with you! I think Prince always longed for "true love". I only wish he had that true love by his side, and he was still with us.
If he wanted true love he would have not been running around chasing 20 something's in his 50s.
I think sick or not he was still being a sugar daddy up to his dying day. He was doing what he wanted to do. He appears to have been juggling a few woman in the last few years.
I think Prince was always around these 20-something's because they were young and aspiring artist and he had a "connection" with them, not sure if they were "all" romantic.
He did have a "thing" for Tamron Hall, and she is not a 20-something. She is in her 40s.
--Is that what Judith Hill meant went she said "he wanted to be all up in her space" Is that why he invited Kandance Springs up to Paisly Park to talk music or take her out on a date. What about Andy Allow? Dressing alike, drawing hearts on each's hands. Come on now.
I agree people automatically assume that, but just because she posted a pic of her boyfriend, doesn't mean she wasn't gettin a slice of the purple pie on the side.
That being said, I believe she was not romantically involved with him, mostly due to it going against every part of his faith which he adhered to rigorously.
Leadline, I agree. There were many I believe that he did not have a romantic relationship with who are implying differently.
I just think it's incredibly disrespectful to the man (and these women) to assume he was screwing every woman he had any association with. But I know plenty think differently so I'm sure I'm in the minority.
Rogifan, you and I don't agree on much, but I am with you on everything you said here I'm also in the minority and I don't care if anyone else likes it or agrees with me.
Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end
some men like the company of women over men, sometimes it's not sexual. i know i prefer to be around women more than men. Men have that alpha male syndrome that gets tired. Women can be nags too so i actually like being alone. Prince though, wanting the company of women sounds like a normal man to me.
Or folks that wont even consider the real possibility that all this stuff was planted after the fact by whoever offed him to create the appearance of someone with a serious problem who is out of control.
Yes to that.. Also thought maybe that is why the family did not clean up his house....
They didn't "clean up his house" because it was a crime scene - or a death scene anyway. If they were complicit in any way it would have looked WORSE if they had cleaned it up and would have raised more suspicions. When my mother attempted suicide I left everything just like I'd found it - pills, booze, drugs, note... everything. I was interviewed for maybe 10 minutes and that was it.
If I had tossed any of that stuff I'm certain it would have taken much much longer than 10 minutes to be interviewed and cleared. Leaving the place as it was was smart and, more importantly, the legal thing to do. It's what an innocent person would do.
Agree They still could have cleaned up after the investigation [Edited 8/23/16 9:52am]
Oh my gosh, how heartbreaking. I just want to say I'm sorry for your loss. I know the loss was tough enough but adding on top of that you finding your loved one....I can't imagine. God bless you
Or folks that wont even consider the real possibility that all this stuff was planted after the fact by whoever offed him to create the appearance of someone with a serious problem who is out of control.
Yes to that.. Also thought maybe that is why the family did not clean up his house....
They didn't "clean up his house" because it was a crime scene - or a death scene anyway. If they were complicit in any way it would have looked WORSE if they had cleaned it up and would have raised more suspicions. When my mother attempted suicide I left everything just like I'd found it - pills, booze, drugs, note... everything. I was interviewed for maybe 10 minutes and that was it.
If I had tossed any of that stuff I'm certain it would have taken much much longer than 10 minutes to be interviewed and cleared. Leaving the place as it was was smart and, more importantly, the legal thing to do. It's what an innocent person would do.
Agree They still could have cleaned up after the investigation [Edited 8/23/16 9:52am]
Edit....I read too quickly.
how heartbreaking. Must have been hard to witness that
some men like the company of women over men, sometimes it's not sexual. i know i prefer to be around women more than men. Men have that alpha male syndrome that gets tired. Women can be nags too so i actually like being alone. Prince though, wanting the company of women sounds like a normal man to me.
I agree! Prince loved the company of beautiful women, what's wrong with that?
Women can be nags, LMAO!!
"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
I think Prince was always around these 20-something's because they were young and aspiring artist and he had a "connection" with them, not sure if they were "all" romantic.
He did have a "thing" for Tamron Hall, and she is not a 20-something. She is in her 40s.
--Is that what Judith Hill meant went she said "he wanted to be all up in her space" Is that why he invited Kandance Springs up to Paisly Park to talk music or take her out on a date. What about Andy Allow? Dressing alike, drawing hearts on each's hands. Come on now.
I have no idea what Judith Hill was referring to. Prince spoke to Tamron every day--now, what does that tell you? She must have been pretty important to him for him to call her on the daily.
"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
out of respect for prince, i'm trying hard NOT to consider that.
i'm having a hard time embracing the 'prince was deliberately murdered in a hit-style attack'. on the other hand, quite a few people were benefiting from his generosity. he was vulnerable in the best kind of way, insofar as he was known to lend a helping hand.
warner brothers has a $hit ton to gain from prince's passing. TMZ was absolutely harassing him before his death.
however, in my lurid mind's eye lurks this scenario that maybe prince wasn't alone that night, but was with someone when he suffered a seizure...?
this is PURE SPECULATION from the imagination of someone who watches way too many scary movies:
we all keep saying how we would never have left prince alone, how it's impossible that no one was concerned enough to be there for him. well, maybe the obvious is true. maybe he wasn't alone.
imagine, it would sure as heck be awkward explaining one's presence when a superstar ODs on something fatal righjt in front of you, especially if you provided the dose and/or knew who did.... god what a sad thought. i apologize for letting my mind run on this way.
but could he have been with someone trying to help him make it until the morning when help would arrive? maybe he called an old or new friend over. he was known to call people in the middle of the night and ask them to come over.....
what if someone was with him? dressed him in a hurry and tried to get him downstairs to the car, all while protecting his privacy and avoiding 911??
i apologize again for sharing this fetid little blast of imagination with you. but since you mentioned it, this is what i see as maybe having happened, assuming that foul play is involved.
Don't be sorry. This has also crossed my mind more than once.
ya, people do panic and leave a dying person to die. I read that the people around Jimi Hendrix panicked and ran too, don't know if that's true or not, you hear so much shit.
--- Yes, idiot people left Jimi to choke on his own vomit. I have had a fear that some idiot bimbo was with him but I want hope he sent everybody away.
I agree people automatically assume that, but just because she posted a pic of her boyfriend, doesn't mean she wasn't gettin a slice of the purple pie on the side.
That being said, I believe she was not romantically involved with him, mostly due to it going against every part of his faith which he adhered to rigorously.
Leadline, I agree. There were many I believe that he did not have a romantic relationship with who are implying differently.
I just think it's incredibly disrespectful to the man (and these women) to assume he was screwing every woman he had any association with. But I know plenty think differently so I'm sure I'm in the minority.
Rogifan, you and I don't agree on much, but I am with you on everything you said here I'm also in the minority and I don't care if anyone else likes it or agrees with me.
I know it's off topic but damn it gets on my nerves. Ever a thought that perhaps some of these women were exaggerating? I'm sure it doesn't hurt career wise having people think Prince had the hots for them or they were in a relationship.
Anyway I'm not much for wild imaginations so I try to stay away from that here. [Edited 8/23/16 14:03pm]
some men like the company of women over men, sometimes it's not sexual. i know i prefer to be around women more than men. Men have that alpha male syndrome that gets tired. Women can be nags too so i actually like being alone. Prince though, wanting the company of women sounds like a normal man to me.
I agree! Prince loved the company of beautiful women, what's wrong with that?
I agree people automatically assume that, but just because she posted a pic of her boyfriend, doesn't mean she wasn't gettin a slice of the purple pie on the side.
That being said, I believe she was not romantically involved with him, mostly due to it going against every part of his faith which he adhered to rigorously.
Leadline, I agree. There were many I believe that he did not have a romantic relationship with who are implying differently.
I just think it's incredibly disrespectful to the man (and these women) to assume he was screwing every woman he had any association with. But I know plenty think differently so I'm sure I'm in the minority.
Rogifan, you and I don't agree on much, but I am with you on everything you said here I'm also in the minority and I don't care if anyone else likes it or agrees with me.
I know it's off topic but damn it gets on my nerves. Ever a thought that perhaps some of these women were exaggerating? I'm sure it doesn't hurt career wise having people think Prince had the hots for them or they were in a relationship.
--- Have you heard what Anna Fantastic said or Robyn Power their time with him did nothing for their careers. They liked sleeping with him plain and simple. For all the running around he did all of these women still speak foundly of him and some even stayed in touch with him. They were all adults they had fun it all says a lot about him as a person.
out of respect for prince, i'm trying hard NOT to consider that.
i'm having a hard time embracing the 'prince was deliberately murdered in a hit-style attack'. on the other hand, quite a few people were benefiting from his generosity. he was vulnerable in the best kind of way, insofar as he was known to lend a helping hand.
warner brothers has a $hit ton to gain from prince's passing. TMZ was absolutely harassing him before his death.
however, in my lurid mind's eye lurks this scenario that maybe prince wasn't alone that night, but was with someone when he suffered a seizure...?
this is PURE SPECULATION from the imagination of someone who watches way too many scary movies:
we all keep saying how we would never have left prince alone, how it's impossible that no one was concerned enough to be there for him. well, maybe the obvious is true. maybe he wasn't alone.
imagine, it would sure as heck be awkward explaining one's presence when a superstar ODs on something fatal righjt in front of you, especially if you provided the dose and/or knew who did.... god what a sad thought. i apologize for letting my mind run on this way.
but could he have been with someone trying to help him make it until the morning when help would arrive? maybe he called an old or new friend over. he was known to call people in the middle of the night and ask them to come over.....
what if someone was with him? dressed him in a hurry and tried to get him downstairs to the car, all while protecting his privacy and avoiding 911??
i apologize again for sharing this fetid little blast of imagination with you. but since you mentioned it, this is what i see as maybe having happened, assuming that foul play is involved.
Don't be sorry. This has also crossed my mind more than once.
ya, people do panic and leave a dying person to die. I read that the people around Jimi Hendrix panicked and ran too, don't know if that's true or not, you hear so much shit.
--- Yes, idiot people left Jimi to choke on his own vomit. I have had a fear that some idiot bimbo was with him but I want hope he sent everybody away.
It's difficult to say. If somebody was with Prince and trying to help him after he became sick I don't think they would have abandoned him. The type of person who might run off is somebody who is an acquaintance and not a true friend, as may have been the case for Jimi. However, if that person is involved in supplying but is also a friend then who knows because in that situation people can be selfish. But why not leave and call 911? I guess calls can be tracked so that's why. The backward clothes is baffling and I don't believe Prince turned his clothes back to front because he didn't like them. This is a grown man not a child or teenager. Also somebody pointed out, how do you get a bottle of pills in a backward pocket? I think he was alone but why he got into the lift we don't know. Was he going up to bed? Or was he coming down in a panic and going to drive himself to hospital? Was somebody meeting him downstairs? More info will come out..
also, has anything come out about those multiple calls to 911 from paisely park in the past couple years? haven't heard anything more, calls could have ranged from stalkers to medical emergencies but it's interesting that no more info has been parsed out.
I know it's off topic but damn it gets on my nerves. Ever a thought that perhaps some of these women were exaggerating? I'm sure it doesn't hurt career wise having people think Prince had the hots for them or they were in a relationship.
--- Have you heard what Anna Fantastic said or Robyn Power their time with him did nothing for their careers. They liked sleeping with him plain and simple. For all the running around he did all of these women still speak foundly of him and some even stayed in touch with him. They were all adults they had fun it all says a lot about him as a person.
they didn't have any talent did they? also, anna was the one who went to a tabloid and said he died of a clot. so, i don't know about her.
rogifan said: --- Have you heard what Anna Fantastic said or Robyn Power their time with him did nothing for their careers. They liked sleeping with him plain and simple. For all the running around he did all of these women still speak foundly of him and some even stayed in touch with him. They were all adults they had fun it all says a lot about him as a person.
they didn't have any talent did they? also, anna was the one who went to a tabloid and said he died of a clot. so, i don't know about her.
some men like the company of women over men, sometimes it's not sexual. i know i prefer to be around women more than men. Men have that alpha male syndrome that gets tired. Women can be nags too so i actually like being alone. Prince though, wanting the company of women sounds like a normal man to me.
Men can be chauvinistic and macho, women spoilt and entitled. Basically that can make life shitt. So it's totally understandable what you say about yourself but also regarding prince, because I believe he was more on his feminine side, therefore preferring female company in general.
The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!
If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
Yes to that.. Also thought maybe that is why the family did not clean up his house....
If the family didn't clean anything up then I'm assuming they were told not to perhaps treating it as a crime scene not wanting to tamper with any evidence.
Bingo! You can't do anything with a scene that is the focus of an investigation. It's tampering with evidence. The police have to see everything exactly as it was left on the day of the death. Things have to be photographed, catalouged, all that. They could probably clean it now, unless the police still need the scene as is.
I imagine myself inside your bedroom; oh, I imagine myself in your sky.
Or folks that wont even consider the real possibility that all this stuff was planted after the fact by whoever offed him to create the appearance of someone with a serious problem who is out of control.
I don't know what to believe but I think this is a valid option, don't see why people think it's so impossible. Guessing that someone switched pills & set him up does not indicate a wild imagination, it's very possible. Stuff like this happens in reality!
I dont necessarily believe this scenario, like I dont think there seems to be a strong case for it.
But I dont rule out the possibility it could of happened.
I mean its probably pure coincidence , but to me it seems ironically strange that he was found in an elevator ...reference to "Lets Go Crazy", he passed in April, but yeah thats just probably weird coincidence.
The problem is we just dont know enough about what happened, and people that were close to him are not talking.
The recent report about clothes on backwards.
The mystery about where was he getting his pills from in the seeming abscence of a Dr.
I do think it seems like stuff is being covered up.
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Had to be a woman right? And who put his clothes on backwards?!?! Probably the same person who stole his shoes. This is all very confusing 
