rogifan said:

If only we could lock Kirk and Meron in a room with a lie detector test I think we'd have all our answers. There's a reason those two lawyered up. [Edited 8/23/16 10:24am]

I think Kirk knows everything ...

NinaB said:

XxAxX said:

zzzzsnk what?! sorry, fell asleep there after my 24 hour vigil

[Edited 8/23/16 10:23am]

...some bonafide loons on here girl, I'm tryna wade thru. Shit gave me a headache the other day.

[Edited 8/23/16 10:31am]

XxAxX said:

This thread has me like:

It's just going round in circles. I've finally lost it!

XxAxX said:

NinaB said:

XxAxX said: ...some bonafide loons on here girl, I'm tryna wade thru. Shit gave me a headache the other day.

[Edited 8/23/16 10:31am]

Time to call Mulder and Scully...

lwr001 said:

laurarichardson said:

herb4 said: -- Some of you leave sheltered lives. The paramedics took his body away and his family came in to the building the police left at this point Breamer Trusts is not even involved it is the families job to secure the premises at that point. if you don't think families clean up evidence in that time period you are smoking crack. I think they were really clueless about what was going on. [Edited 8/23/16 9:38am]

its not their property...they cant just come in and waltz around..also, in a death investigation the scene of the death would probably be sealed until all warrants and subsequent seraches are excuted esp iif the ME hadnt issued a cause of death yet..I could be wrong

[Edited 8/23/16 9:54am]

I believe Carver Co. released PP back to the family on Friday the 22nd. Then they had a small, private rememberance with a few friends and family members on the 23rd. The DEA served a search warrant on May 10th. I don't believe PP was ever declared a "crime scene". I'm thinking that I am correct on that.

NinaB said:

XxAxX said:

[Edited 8/23/16 10:31am]

Wish I was joking, shit started in my eye & then spread

oooo aural migraine. sorry!!!! zig zaggy bolts... are you dehydrated? tried putting on glare-resistant computer glasses? those yellow tinted ones can really help when you're on the puter for hours

purplethunder3121 said:

XxAxX said:

[Edited 8/23/16 10:31am]

Time to call Mulder and Scully...

well, aliens could have done it.

morningsong said:

Menes said:

I dont think its just a Prince holding on to his youth (although it could be) . People who have been exposed to this degree of superstardom would go to any lengths to keep such things quiet. I would. I think Elvis had the same probelm of covering up his massive druge use. When you are known for having an anti-drug image, getting conventional help is not an option. The fall and shame would be to great to bare. At the last moment , someone was tying to convince him but I will bet that he agreed to it kicking and screaming.

I don't think he would have been kicking and screaming. In the beginning of this I might have saw him that way but now I don't see him that way at all. Resistant? Highly likely. Throwing a fit? Probably not. One hand I think he did anything in his power not to have to let go until he dropped, on the other hand he could have had so much on his plate that he keep up appearances and just barreled through.

This X100

XxAxX said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Time to call Mulder and Scully...

well, aliens could have done it.

XxAxX said:

morningsong said:

morningsong said:

LyraB said:

Per Billboard.com Tests on Prince prior to his death did not show fentanyl in his system, which means he wasn't a long-time abuser of that drug, but likely took the fatal dose sometime in the 24 hours before he died, the official said. Which means it would have to be some serious tests to show one to be a longtime abuser. Now if those test include whatever they did in Moline then, he did not od on fentanyl even then because he had no fentanyl in his system.

Fentanyl is cheeap, cheaper than most other substances. I've read dealers have been know to brag about ods because it shows how powerful their product is.

I saw this same Billboard article and did feel some vindication for Prince. It proves what we've all been saying from the start. HE WASN'T AN ADDICT. He also hasn't been the only one to die from a Fentanyl overdose when they thought they were taking a weaker pain medication. The more I'm learning about this whole situation the more awful it is. If you suffer from chronic pain, you get to a point where you're willing to try something from one of the million online pharmacies out there. There were a few times when I came close to purchasing something online for severe migraines but I was too afraid that I wouldn't get what I was paying for. I believe I read either in the Billboard article or another article that when he was tested in Moline there was no fentanyl in his system but it was an overdose of something else (I believe it was Percocet but since I can't remember the source...don't quote me on that). My heart keeps breaking with every new story because it's so obvious that it wasn't his time and this should have never happened.

laurarichardson said:

leadline said:

Were there any other incidents of fentanyl overdose that have been tied to these mislabeled pills? I ask seriously, because if there wasn't, then a one off mislabel batch of pills of this kind with deadly amounts of fentanyl in each individual pill raises huge red flags. (for me) Because if it was just some random one time mix up and misdosing of the pills by the manufacture, the chances of them landing in Princes hands would be slim to none.

[Edited 8/23/16 9:16am]

--There are articles going back last year going back to last about fake pills in Minn and North Dakota. Not sure why drug dealers want to kill their customers.

They don't. They just want money and a lot of them view things in the short term.

herb4 said:

rkayla said:

morningsong said:

morningsong said: Fentanyl is cheeap, cheaper than most other substances. I've read dealers have been know to brag about ods because it shows how powerful their product is.

I saw this same Billboard article and did feel some vindication for Prince. It proves what we've all been saying from the start. HE WASN'T AN ADDICT. He also hasn't been the only one to die from a Fentanyl overdose when they thought they were taking a weaker pain medication. The more I'm learning about this whole situation the more awful it is. If you suffer from chronic pain, you get to a point where you're willing to try something from one of the million online pharmacies out there. There were a few times when I came close to purchasing something online for severe migraines but I was too afraid that I wouldn't get what I was paying for. I believe I read either in the Billboard article or another article that when he was tested in Moline there was no fentanyl in his system but it was an overdose of something else (I believe it was Percocet but since I can't remember the source...don't quote me on that). My heart keeps breaking with every new story because it's so obvious that it wasn't his time and this should have never happened.

No, for me it shows he'll do illegal things. I have no idea if the pain was that severe or if it's due to having a dependency. All this shows was he wasn't addicted to some very powerful stuff. There's still a lot of questions on what those flu-like symtoms were, why he wasn't eating properly and why he lost over 13lbs.

purplethunder3121 said:

EnDoRpHn said:

herb4 said:

Also:

Someone in the last thread said "no one here is saying that Roince didn't have a problem." YES they are. A lot of people are and some of them are rather defensive and in denile about it for some reason.

Edit: Beaten, but, yeah; basically what NELCP777 said.

[Edited 8/23/16 7:51am]

Who's Roince?

Prince's alter ego who appeared when there was a shift in parallel universes.

rogifan said:

If only we could lock Kirk and Meron in a room with a lie detector test I think we'd have all our answers. There's a reason those two lawyered up. [Edited 8/23/16 10:24am]

And what if Prince remained captain of his own ship and left them out of it so that if anything happened it would all fall on him and not them? Pointing fingers does nothing for nobody right now.

Everybody got a lawyer so they could have advice on how to conduct themselves and when to and not to talk. It's a smart thing to do when you're that close to a criminal investigation, it is not evidence of wrong doing. Time will tell then you can go all ballastic.

purplethunder3121 said:

EnDoRpHn said:

herb4 said: Who's Roince?

Prince's alter ego who appeared when there was a shift in parallel universes.

so maybe that's why his clothing was on backwards? there was a spontaneous molecular reversal when he passed through the continuum?

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Just to clear up why I believe foul play Prince most likely had a PAIN problem...not an addiction problem...

Those 2 things aren't mutually exclusive. People who get addicted to pain meds usually do so because they've been prescribed them for pain.

There's no "foul play" beyond one of Prince's underlings/friends/yesmen getting him something to ward off the withdrawals/treat the pain, which accidentally killed him and ultimately got whoever provided the drugs in a shit load of trouble.

That's what's going to come out when the dust settles and which will explain the delays in the investigation and the information. Figuring out who provided him with the "hot shot" pills would take a lot of legwork and a lot of time, especially if one were trying to build a case that could be strongly prosecuted. They'll find out who it was and charges will be brought, but they have to build a case first.

The question is, when this happens, how many of the murder consparicy advocates will believe it? I'd say roughly 20 - 25% of the people here will cling to the far fetched idea that someone took Prince out, for reasons I still can't ascertain, and cling to the murder theory like "Building 17 9/11 Truthers". At the end of the day, Prince was worth a lot more to most people alive than he was dead, at least in the long term.

rogifan said:

I just drove by Paisley Park on my way home from work and there had to be about 10 cars in the parking lot. No police vehicles. Normally when I drive by there I see maybe one or two cars at the most.

According to Twitter, LW is there.

wearing the clothes backwards could just be a fashion thing

http://metro.co.uk/2016/04/05/fashion-bloggers-have-started-wearing-their-shirts-backwards-and-no-one-knows-what-to-think-5796108/

XxAxX said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Prince's alter ego who appeared when there was a shift in parallel universes.

so maybe that's why his clothing was on backwards? there was a spontaneous molecular reversal when he passed through the continuum?

I believe that explanation is as plausible as any on this thread.

morningsong said:

purplethunder3121 said:

XxAxX said:

so maybe that's why his clothing was on backwards? there was a spontaneous molecular reversal when he passed through the continuum?

I believe that explanation is as plausible as any on this thread.

agreed! and as long as we're tossing it out there for s&gs i'd postulate that maybe the REAL prince is still alive, trapped in that parallel universe. we can only pray the people there will value music and haven't outlawed it

rogifan said:

morningsong said:

And what if Prince remained captain of his own ship and left them out of it so that if anything happened it would all fall on him and not them? Pointing fingers does nothing for nobody right now.

Everybody got a lawyer so they could have advice on how to conduct themselves and when to and not to talk. It's a smart thing to do when you're that close to a criminal investigation, it is not evidence of wrong doing. Time will tell then you can go all ballastic.

Sorry even if they may not or could not be charged with anything I think they have the answers.

Your thoughts don't make it so.

I'm am quite sure the DEA know how to handle this.

purplethunder3121 said:

NinaB said:

purplethunder3121 said:

Prince's alter ego who appeared when there was a shift in parallel universes.

Don't u start!

Too late. They are on a full roll.

zenarose said: