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Thread started 08/20/16 6:57pm

ashleypaisley

Pills seized from Paisley Park contained illicit fentanyl, same drug that killed Prince

"Prince was wearing a black shirt and pants — both were on backward — and his socks were inside-out, according to a source familiar with the case. A responding paramedic said Prince appeared to have been dead for at least six hours before his body was found." Star Tribune

http://m.startribune.com/...390816101/

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Part 2 discussion here - http://prince.org/msg/7/431160
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Reply #1 posted 08/20/16 7:06pm

leftcoast

Clothes on backwards? Very suspicious. That does not sound like Prince at all.
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Reply #2 posted 08/20/16 7:13pm

Genesia

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It just sounds like he might not have been clothed when they found him.

Or...maybe he knew he was in trouble, just threw on some clothes, and went in search of someone who could help him.

We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves.
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Reply #3 posted 08/20/16 7:15pm

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the more significant think in the story is the fentanyl overdose appears to have happened because the fentanyl was in a bottle labeled as hydrocodone, fetnanyl is vastly more powerful than hydrocodone

So Prince died because the wrong pills were in a bottle.

[Edited 8/20/16 19:31pm]

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Reply #4 posted 08/20/16 7:18pm

thedoorkeeper

I would have to be pretty fucked up to put my pants on backwards. Shirt & socks I can understand.
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Reply #5 posted 08/20/16 7:27pm

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Okay, so now the picture in my mind is far more disturbing than just him being alone....in an elevator sad Now the image is his body and mind is so in shock he couldn't put his clothes on fast enough or correctly so he could get help!!! cry And I was just starting to come to terms with his passing. This s%^& is for the birds, really.

Welcome home class. We've come a long way. - RIP Prince
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Reply #6 posted 08/20/16 7:28pm

morningsong

Everything was on wrong? Everything but underwear? Everything? Both socks inside out?
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Reply #7 posted 08/20/16 7:31pm

morningsong

It keeps getting worse.
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Reply #8 posted 08/20/16 7:31pm

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This article is depressing as hell if it is true. For one thing, he was clueless as to the strength of the pills he was given. My theory is that someone got him the supposed hydrocodone illegally because no legit doctor would give it to him legally. He thought it was hydrocodone but it was instead fentanyl. When he realized he had taken something else, he threw on his clothes and just didn't make it to a phone or help quick enough.

The article indicated that counterfit drugs were sometimes fentanyl instead of what they were labeled as. I don't think the person who got the drug knew they were giving him the wrong stuff. But whoever obtained those drugs for him should face jail time (IMO).

Also sad (if it is true) is that he was on pills for localized pain (lidocaine [sic]) and anti-anxiety pills (alprazolam) apparently. Poor guy. NOt sure whether the anti-anxiety pills were for his withdrawal symptoms as a result of the Narcon or just something he was always on.

I know too many people (especially middle aged people) on pills like these. People need to find other ways to deal with anxiety and pain.

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Reply #9 posted 08/20/16 7:36pm

alandail

Is it at all possible that this is the bottle of pills he picked up at the pharmacy that day?

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Reply #10 posted 08/20/16 7:38pm

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morningsong said:

Everything was on wrong? Everything but underwear? Everything? Both socks inside out?

He was probably wearing underwear at the time. But when he went to grab his clothes they were on the floor or something (like maybe he had taken them off earlier and then after taking the pills just grabbed them off the floor throwing them on the way they laid.

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Reply #11 posted 08/20/16 7:38pm

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Why would his clothes have been on backwards? So many questions, so few answers. This so heartbreaking.
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"And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ heart

"Baby, that was much too fast"...Goodnight dear sweet Prince. I'll love you always heart
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Reply #12 posted 08/20/16 7:40pm

morningsong

purplerabbithole said:



morningsong said:


Everything was on wrong? Everything but underwear? Everything? Both socks inside out?

He was probably wearing underwear at the time. But when he went to grab his clothes they were on the floor or something (like maybe he had taken them off earlier and then after taking the pills just grabbed them off the floor throwing them on the way they laid.




Maybe. I'm feeling too many things right now.
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Reply #13 posted 08/20/16 7:40pm

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alandail said:

Is it at all possible that this is the bottle of pills he picked up at the pharmacy that day?

Why would the pharmacy have illicit drugs? Well, maybe they are investigating the pharmacy as well. No wonder it taking so long.

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Reply #14 posted 08/20/16 7:42pm

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I am devastated.

This article looks legit and it seems that, IF it's true:

1) he took a pill(s) labeled hydrocodone - but the pill(s) contained fentanyl without him knowing it. (I'm crying right now)
2) he was also taking a rather strong benzodiazepine (Xanax) and a narcotic (Percocet). That's a potential respiratory depression risk already. But my guess is he had become used to the latter 2 drugs -- it's the unknowingly adding of the fentanyl that pushed his system over the edge.
3) clothes on backwards makes me wonder if he was so out of it from the fentanyl that he didn't know what he was doing.

Prescription medications are killing people. I am just so sad over this and I felt my first real anger just now.

I am so glad he doesn't have to feel this pain or fear again. God love you, beautiful boy.
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Reply #15 posted 08/20/16 7:44pm

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someone dressed him post-mortem?????? now it sounds like he was assaulted. or, at least, not alone that night

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Reply #16 posted 08/20/16 7:45pm

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purplerabbithole said:



alandail said:


Is it at all possible that this is the bottle of pills he picked up at the pharmacy that day?



Why would the pharmacy have illicit drugs? Well, maybe they are investigating the pharmacy as well. No wonder it taking so long.



Maybe the pills did not come from a pharmacy.
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Reply #17 posted 08/20/16 7:46pm

morningsong

anangellooksdown said:

I am devastated.

This article looks legit and it seems that, IF it's true:

1) he took a pill(s) labeled hydrocodone - but the pill(s) contained fentanyl.
2) he was also taking a rather strong benzodiazepine (Xanax) and a narcotic (Percocet). That's a lot of respiratory depression risk altogether. But my guess is he has become used to the latter 2 drugs -- it's the unknowingly adding of the fentanyl that pushed his system over the edge.
3) clothes on backwards makes me wonder if he was so out of it from the fentanyl that he didn't know what he was doing.

Prescription medications are killing people. I am just so sad over this and I felt my first real anger just now.

I am so glad he doesn't have to feel this pain or fear again. God love you, beautiful boy.


He had the presence of mind to put his clothes on and get in the elevator yet everything got put on incorrectly. So incorrectly his pants are backward but it didn't say inside out.
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Reply #18 posted 08/20/16 7:47pm

morningsong

XxAxX said:

someone dressed him post-mortem????? now it sounds like he was assaulted. or, at least, not alone that night




The word dingbat is coming to mind.


I thought I'd better say that word IS NOT directed at you.
[Edited 8/20/16 19:50pm]
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Reply #19 posted 08/20/16 7:48pm

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"Sources" could mean anything. I don't know what 2 think anymore. I give up. Just gonna do my best 2 wait & pray the investigation is thorough & the basic facts are clarified.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #20 posted 08/20/16 7:49pm

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Well, this is fucking me up all over again... Is this what it's gonna be like?? Every few months, hearts breaking all over again?? FUCK bheart


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heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #21 posted 08/20/16 7:51pm

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In the absense of proof, anything is possible. Perhaps someone switched the pills on purpose.

"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013
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Reply #22 posted 08/20/16 7:51pm

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morningsong said:

anangellooksdown said:

I am devastated.

This article looks legit and it seems that, IF it's true:

1) he took a pill(s) labeled hydrocodone - but the pill(s) contained fentanyl.
2) he was also taking a rather strong benzodiazepine (Xanax) and a narcotic (Percocet). That's a lot of respiratory depression risk altogether. But my guess is he has become used to the latter 2 drugs -- it's the unknowingly adding of the fentanyl that pushed his system over the edge.
3) clothes on backwards makes me wonder if he was so out of it from the fentanyl that he didn't know what he was doing.

Prescription medications are killing people. I am just so sad over this and I felt my first real anger just now.

I am so glad he doesn't have to feel this pain or fear again. God love you, beautiful boy.


He had the presence of mind to put his clothes on and get in the elevator yet everything got put on incorrectly. So incorrectly his pants are backward but it didn't say inside out.


Morningsong. 😢
I don't know. They could've been stretchy-type pants without buttons or the like so it didn't really matter.
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Reply #23 posted 08/20/16 7:51pm

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morningsong said:

XxAxX said:

someone dressed him post-mortem?????? now it sounds like he was assaulted. or, at least, not alone that night

The word dingbat is coming to mind. I thought I'd better say that word IS NOT directed at you. [Edited 8/20/16 19:50pm]

there are all kinds of superstitions about clothing being put on backward and inside out. sorry my mind went there right away. maybe he was found naked originally, dressed by someone, then the medics were called?

i've always had the unsettling 'feeling' that he was not alone that night

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Reply #24 posted 08/20/16 7:51pm

morningsong

NinaB said:

"Sources" could mean anything. I don't know what 2 think anymore. I give up. Just gonna do my best 2 wait & pray the investigation is thorough & the basic facts are clarified.



I'm going to try to go to that place because taking this as true is not a good place for me right now.
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Reply #25 posted 08/20/16 7:53pm

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Just when I thought I was on the road to closure. MFing stop giving the information in pieces!!!

I just want to screaaaaaaaaaaaaammmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

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Reply #26 posted 08/20/16 7:53pm

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morningsong said:

NinaB said:

"Sources" could mean anything. I don't know what 2 think anymore. I give up. Just gonna do my best 2 wait & pray the investigation is thorough & the basic facts are clarified.



I'm going to try to go to that place because taking this as true is not a good place for me right now.

I know. It's been a rough 4 mnths. God knows what else is 2 come.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #27 posted 08/20/16 7:56pm

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leftcoast said:

purplerabbithole said:

Why would the pharmacy have illicit drugs? Well, maybe they are investigating the pharmacy as well. No wonder it taking so long.

Maybe the pills did not come from a pharmacy.

If he did get these counterfit pills from a pharmacy than that is seriously screwed up.

If he got them illegally than whoever fetched them for him should go to jail even if he/she didn't know they were not hydrocodone.

God, I hope no one intentionally gave him fentanyl.

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Reply #28 posted 08/20/16 7:56pm

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XxAxX said:



morningsong said:


XxAxX said:

someone dressed him post-mortem????? now it sounds like he was assaulted. or, at least, not alone that night



The word dingbat is coming to mind. I thought I'd better say that word IS NOT directed at you. [Edited 8/20/16 19:50pm]

there are all kinds of superstitions about clothing being put on backward and inside out. sorry my mind went there right away. maybe he was found naked originally, dressed by someone, then the medics were called?

i've always had the unsettling 'feeling' that he was not alone that night


I was thinking that too, maybe he was in his shorts & Kirk/Meron dressed him when they arrived in the morning. Other things are rushing thru my mind...trying not 2 go there.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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Reply #29 posted 08/20/16 7:57pm

morningsong

XxAxX said:



morningsong said:


XxAxX said:

someone dressed him post-mortem????? now it sounds like he was assaulted. or, at least, not alone that night



The word dingbat is coming to mind. I thought I'd better say that word IS NOT directed at you. [Edited 8/20/16 19:50pm]

there are all kinds of superstitions about clothing being put on backward and inside out. sorry my mind went there right away. maybe he was found naked originally, dressed by someone, then the medics were called?

i've always had the unsettling 'feeling' that he was not alone that night




You were fine. That word digbat wasn't directed at you. I didn't realize how that looked until I poted it.



I've been feeling like you have.
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