LoriJ said:

nursev said:

Yep the truth is coming and its not pretty.

Yes, because they released the autopsy report right after an unnamed source leak.

Really? I missed that detail

rogifan said:

LoriJ said:

And someone is held responsible and served justice for the beloved victim. Accidently ingested, but a crime was comitted. I'm just glad they are leaving the case open for however long it takes. Once a case is closed, it very rarely ever gets reopened.

What was accidentally ingested?

fentanyl.

XxAxX said:

rogifan said:

NinaB said: How is taking reports from unnamed sources and letting ones imagination run wild with all kinds of awful things good for anybody's health or sanity? It certainly doesn't bring closure, it just raises even more questions. I don't know what the Star Tribune's agenda is but I don't trust their motives at all. Especially after they decided to go sniffing around P's divorce records claiming that somehow the public has a right to know this information. BS and FU Star Tribune.

you make a really good point. and, i've tried really hard to avoid indulging in this type of speculation. but for me, if this detail is true, it simply adds to an already tall pile of strange that has gone unexplained. that is, even without this detail the thing is weird. add this detail and it becomes sinister imo

agreed

Eileen said:

goosebumps

oliviacamron said:

Just when you thought you were safe

XxAxX said:

i'd like to know more about the 'two women' he was always hanging out with. who were they? their names?

The NY Daily News is a rag. Why believe as gospel anything it prints vs other 'news' sources that get trashed around here?

rogifan said:

NinaB said:

Fine. We get it. But this ain't about your pet peeve.

How is taking reports from unnamed sources and letting ones imagination run wild with all kinds of awful things good for anybody's health or sanity? It certainly doesn't bring closure, it just raises even more questions. I don't know what the Star Tribune's agenda is but I don't trust their motives at all. Especially after they decided to go sniffing around P's divorce records claiming that somehow the public has a right to know this information. BS and FU Star Tribune.

slowlywiltingflower said:

XxAxX said:

i'd like to know more about the 'two women' he was always hanging out with. who were they? their names?

The NY Daily News is a rag. Why believe as gospel anything it prints vs other 'news' sources that get trashed around here?

i'm inclined to believe the cited, eyewitness testimony it published nevertheless, as that information is easily verifiable:

Actor and nightclub associate Wass Stevens reveals that Prince gave one “secret” show in Manhattan before he died in April. . .

[Edited 8/20/16 23:24pm]

nursev said:

NinaB said:

rogifan said:

How is taking reports from unnamed sources and letting ones imagination run wild with all kinds of awful things good for anybody's health or sanity? It certainly doesn't bring closure, it just raises even more questions. I don't know what the Star Tribune's agenda is but I don't trust their motives at all. Especially after they decided to go sniffing around P's divorce records claiming that somehow the public has a right to know this information. BS and FU Star Tribune.

You missed the point. Prince's life & death is bigger than your issue with conspiracy theories. As nurse said, some people are generally grieving here. All they want is the goddamn dots 2 join up. So far there's untold holes in the story.

Gigantic holes!!! Missing doctors and M.I.A. Friends and Associates....Imma need justice for Prince. I dont care about folks personal agendas.

NinaB said:

Eileen said:

Prince certainly had the computer skills to secretly get them himself. I would hope he wasn't asking staff/friends to risk prison time by getting him illegal meds... a bit too Limbaugh.

If you're a friend u get him help not dodgy drugs.

Yeah, that's if you're a TRUE, real friend you get the person help. I wonder exactly how many true, genuine friends Prince had vs people wanting to use him for their own self-serving agendas. As for Prince asking staff or friends to risk prison to obtain illegal drugs for him, I seriously seriously doubt THAT. There are always plenty of "yes" men/women and buttkissers surrounding celebrities in the guise of "helpful friend", i.e. wanting to score brownie points. There were also many naive, young people who worked for Prince who may have 'helpfully' gotten him meds and were completely clueless as to the dangers of what's happening in MN right now particularly re: street drugs.

luv4u said:

Eileen said:

Prince certainly had the computer skills to secretly get them himself. I would hope he wasn't asking staff/friends to risk prison time by getting him illegal meds... a bit too Limbaugh.

This is so far fetched

Which part? That he might do it himself instead of asking others to risk serving time on his behalf? Or that he had the ability to use email and create an online pharma account?

XxAxX said:

nursev said:

LoriJ said:

Yes, because they released the autopsy report right after an unnamed source leak.

Really? I missed that detail

Yes. I recall it being the same day. There was a leak that morning . Later that afternoon the coroner's office released their report. People were tweeting them, they kept saying they had nothing to report. Then within hours they did.

[Edited 8/20/16 23:32pm]

XxAxX said:

slowlywiltingflower said:

The NY Daily News is a rag. Why believe as gospel anything it prints vs other 'news' sources that get trashed around here?

i'm inclined to believe the cited, eyewitness testimony it published nevertheless, as that information is easily verifiable:

Actor and nightclub associate Wass Stevens reveals that Prince gave one “secret” show in Manhattan before he died in April. . .

[Edited 8/20/16 23:24pm]

Yep b/c people, and the media, never embellish or make up straight up BS to sell copies. that story is so full of holes and out-of-character for Prince claims I find it difficult to believe anybody would believe it. MAYBE Prince was in the club a month before he passed...MAYBE he even played a song or two. But so much of the bulk of that 'story' is suspect it's ridiculous.

slowlywiltingflower said:

XxAxX said:

i'm inclined to believe the cited, eyewitness testimony it published nevertheless, as that information is easily verifiable:

Actor and nightclub associate Wass Stevens reveals that Prince gave one “secret” show in Manhattan before he died in April. . .

[Edited 8/20/16 23:24pm]

Yep b/c people, and the media, never embellish or make up straight up BS to sell copies. that story is so full of holes and out-of-character for Prince claims I find it difficult to believe anybody would believe it. MAYBE Prince was in the club a month before he passed...MAYBE he even played a song or two. But so much of the bulk of that 'story' is suspect it's ridiculous.

okay. if you say so. still, tossing that story out entirely and dismissing the two gals prince was or wasn't with, we are still left with too much unexplained weird.

slowlywiltingflower said:

LoriJ said:

nursev said:

Really? I missed that detail

Yes. I recall it being the same day. There was a leak that morning . Later that afterboon the coronEr's office released their report. People were tweeting them, they kept saying they had nothing to report. Then within hours they did.

that was odd, now you mention it

This is just so frightening to read about. My God, I can only imagine how panicked he must have felt in his last moments. My heart aches to think he was in a level of pain great enough to start taking opioids. I had no idea of the extent of his struggle and I'm so sorry he suffered. I really loved that man, losing him has been very hard...this is just so upsetting to me.

It's amazing how speculation runs wild & suggestions suddenly become facts. We need a timeline of everything that has been put into the public domain since he passed - who said what & when, sources etc. then we know what's what.

slowlywiltingflower said:

Genesia said:

It just sounds like he might not have been clothed when they found him.

Or...maybe he knew he was in trouble, just threw on some clothes, and went in search of someone who could help him.

If that was the case, he should've just call 9-1-1, if he was feeling something wasn't right...I wish he had. We might not be in a world without him, if he had.

LoriJ said:

nursev said:

Really? I missed that detail

Yes. I recall it being the same day. There was a leak that morning . Later that afternoon the coroner's office released their report. People were tweeting them, they kept saying they had nothing to report. Then within hours they did.

[Edited 8/20/16 23:32pm]

Yup, my memory was that it was only a couple of hours between the leak and the publication of the report.

ForeverPaisley said:

Genesia said:

It just sounds like he might not have been clothed when they found him.

Or...maybe he knew he was in trouble, just threw on some clothes, and went in search of someone who could help him.

If that was the case, he should've just call 9-1-1, if he was feeling something wasn't right...I wish he had. We might not be in a world without him, if he had.

He never got the chance

XxAxX said:

slowlywiltingflower said:

Yep b/c people, and the media, never embellish or make up straight up BS to sell copies. that story is so full of holes and out-of-character for Prince claims I find it difficult to believe anybody would believe it. MAYBE Prince was in the club a month before he passed...MAYBE he even played a song or two. But so much of the bulk of that 'story' is suspect it's ridiculous.

okay. if you say so. still, tossing that story out entirely and dismissing the two gals prince was or wasn't with, we are still left with too much unexplained weird.

Oh I completely agree with you about so much being unexplained. This entire tragedy from beginning to now is bizarre, and only seems to get more bizarre. But, and this is just my opinion, I think there is too much focus being placed on red herrings like this NY Daily News story and the mysterious 'two girls' with Prince. The waters are being muddied either by minutae, or people that (again, imo) SHOULD be more forthcoming are being given either a free pass due to who they are or for inexplicable reasons, such as that doctor who hasn't been heard from since April. (although to be fair, letting a physician go or the physician leaving his position amidst an investigation and situation such as this isn't uncommon; if that guy is an innocent bystander caught up in this mess merely due to unfortunate circumstance, I'd want to disappear too while all this is going on as what could he contribute anymore at this point? but again, WHO KNOWS WHAT HE KNOWS OR DOESN'T? Hopefully law enforcement does). I think some of Prince's "friends" who have spoken out with very unbelievable claims "Oh I *NEVER* saw Prince look like he was in pain!" or other similar remarks seems more weird to me...how could some of these people claiming ignorance or else denying what is known fact (now) say some of this stuff with a straight face? All this to say, I agree with you about us being left with FAR FAR too much 'unexplained weird'. And it's not right. There is something terribly fishy about so much of this and it's frustrating.

LuxLove said: