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Reply #180 posted 08/20/16 10:10pm

nursev

oliviacamron said:

nursev said:

Dead in an elevator with clothes on backwards and for four months nobody says a damn word. Highest level of bullshit.

I got this feeling they're going to drop a bombshell on us next week

Yep the truth is coming and its not pretty.

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Reply #181 posted 08/20/16 10:11pm

zenarose

babynoz said:

XxAxX said:

https://www.scribd.com/doc/312311119/PRINCE-Dr-Michael-T-Schulenberg-Warrant
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/may/11/doctor-named-who-saw-prince-day-before-death-and-gave-prescriptions
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/11/arts/music/princes-doctor-arrived-with-test-results-only-to-find-him-dead.html



Does anybody know where this doctor is today?

I don't think he has been seen since April 21st.

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Reply #182 posted 08/20/16 10:12pm

wavesofbliss

XxAxX said:

babynoz said:



They are doing what they do, following the leads that they are given. They are not going to knowingly put that reputation at risk. They are being told certain things.

i guess taking a deep breath and stepping back wouldn't hurt. but almost everything about prince's passing has been a wtf right from the start. he allegedly took more pills after almost dying from them? he was all alone the night before someone flew out redeye to see him? a stranger called in the 911? the autopsy was conducted the very next day? cremation was that same afternoon? DEA investigation seized possession of PP? he was found in an elevator, like in the song? on april 21 again? clothing put on inside out and backward???? maybe i need to get out more but imo it's like some kind of freaky mystery story unfolding right before our dang eyes.

u r not alone in this, shockingly weird for the start and getting weirder by the day. things don't scan.

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Reply #183 posted 08/20/16 10:13pm

jumanji2016

Soooo...the consensus is that Prince was walking around PP in his drawers and someone went into his dirty clothes hamper and put the same clothes on him that he was wearing the day before? I'm going to treat this detail like a rumor.

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Reply #184 posted 08/20/16 10:14pm

terrig

the operative word here is 'illicit'.

Prince had to know and trust the source of those pills - because he did take them.

They werent what he thought they were.

Its plausible he wasnt alone... and someone was either with him or found him and dressed him before he was offically found.

omg this is horrific. sad my goodness - cannot make this make sense sad

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Reply #185 posted 08/20/16 10:14pm

nursev

wavesofbliss said:

XxAxX said:

i guess taking a deep breath and stepping back wouldn't hurt. but almost everything about prince's passing has been a wtf right from the start. he allegedly took more pills after almost dying from them? he was all alone the night before someone flew out redeye to see him? a stranger called in the 911? the autopsy was conducted the very next day? cremation was that same afternoon? DEA investigation seized possession of PP? he was found in an elevator, like in the song? on april 21 again? clothing put on inside out and backward???? maybe i need to get out more but imo it's like some kind of freaky mystery story unfolding right before our dang eyes.

u r not alone in this, shockingly weird for the start and getting weirder by the day. things don't scan.

indeed

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Reply #186 posted 08/20/16 10:16pm

purplerabbitho
le

I just re-read some stuff about Kirk Johnson recently. IN this article, it mentions how the man who eventually become Johnson's lawyer after Prince died had been focusing on cases that involved people sharing pain pills with friends who were in pain..and had previously posted the following statement:

"

A month before the singer’s death, Johnson’s lawyer, Tyler, warned on his website that Minnesota authorities are cracking down prescription drug abuse.

“Sharing your medication with a friend who is struggling with pain might be well-meaning, but under Minnesota’s broad definition of ‘sell,’ you could be charged with felony drug sales,” Tyler wrote in a blog post. "

https://www.yahoo.com/news/prince-best-friend-could-be-key-in-death-investigation-203516394.html

I also read that Fentanyl overdose can be combatted with Narcon but it would take multiple doses. Didn't an article state that Prince's first overdose took two Narcon shots. Is it possible that both overdoses came from the same bottle? Is it possible that it was originally Johnson's pills that Prince had 'borrowed" so to speak and that Johnson had purchased them from a dubious dealer but had not used them for anything?

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Reply #187 posted 08/20/16 10:18pm

nursev

purplerabbithole said:

I just re-read some stuff about Kirk Johnson recently. IN this article, it mentions how the man who eventually become Johnson's lawyer after Prince died had been focusing on cases that involved people sharing pain pills with friends who were in pain..and had previously posted the following statement:

"

A month before the singer’s death, Johnson’s lawyer, Tyler, warned on his website that Minnesota authorities are cracking down prescription drug abuse.

“Sharing your medication with a friend who is struggling with pain might be well-meaning, but under Minnesota’s broad definition of ‘sell,’ you could be charged with felony drug sales,” Tyler wrote in a blog post. "

https://www.yahoo.com/news/prince-best-friend-could-be-key-in-death-investigation-203516394.html

I also read that Fentanyl overdose can be combatted with Narcon but it would take multiple doses. Didn't an article state that Prince's first overdose took two Narcon shots. Is it possible that both overdoses came from the same bottle? Is it possible that it was originally Johnson's pills that Prince had 'borrowed" so to speak and that Johnson had purchased them from a dubious dealer but had not used them for anything?

disbelief

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Reply #188 posted 08/20/16 10:19pm

jumanji2016

Also, I'm not well-versed in CPR, but is it protocol to remove a person's shirt during it? The 911 call said that CPR was started. Maybe Kirk and the doctor made a previous attempt at it before the EMTs arrived and just haphazardly put his shirt back on backwards. Can't explain the pants.

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Reply #189 posted 08/20/16 10:22pm

LoriJ

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alandail said:

the more significant think in the story is the fentanyl overdose appears to have happened because the fentanyl was in a bottle labeled as hydrocodone, fetnanyl is vastly more powerful than hydrocodone

So Prince died because the wrong pills were in a bottle.

[Edited 8/20/16 19:31pm]

It makes so much more sense. How the hell does someone accidently put the patch form on?

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Reply #190 posted 08/20/16 10:22pm

teach49

I wonder if the person who gave him this pills knew they were fentanyl. Do doctors ever give samples of hydrocodone?

This is awful. I feel so bad for him.


[Edited 8/20/16 22:24pm]

[Edited 8/20/16 22:28pm]

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Reply #191 posted 08/20/16 10:22pm

purplerabbitho
le

Are you disagreeing? and with what part of my statement?

nursev said:

purplerabbithole said:

I just re-read some stuff about Kirk Johnson recently. IN this article, it mentions how the man who eventually become Johnson's lawyer after Prince died had been focusing on cases that involved people sharing pain pills with friends who were in pain..and had previously posted the following statement:

"

A month before the singer’s death, Johnson’s lawyer, Tyler, warned on his website that Minnesota authorities are cracking down prescription drug abuse.

“Sharing your medication with a friend who is struggling with pain might be well-meaning, but under Minnesota’s broad definition of ‘sell,’ you could be charged with felony drug sales,” Tyler wrote in a blog post. "

https://www.yahoo.com/news/prince-best-friend-could-be-key-in-death-investigation-203516394.html

I also read that Fentanyl overdose can be combatted with Narcon but it would take multiple doses. Didn't an article state that Prince's first overdose took two Narcon shots. Is it possible that both overdoses came from the same bottle? Is it possible that it was originally Johnson's pills that Prince had 'borrowed" so to speak and that Johnson had purchased them from a dubious dealer but had not used them for anything?

disbelief

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Reply #192 posted 08/20/16 10:22pm

nursev

Poor Prince his last hours are starting to look like the things that nightmares are made of...I cant even imagine what he went through sad Hurts my soul sad

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Reply #193 posted 08/20/16 10:23pm

nursev

purplerabbithole said:

Are you disagreeing? and with what part of my statement?

nursev said:

disbelief

No Im just in disbelief....it sounds like it couldve happened.

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Reply #194 posted 08/20/16 10:25pm

Moonbeam

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Can't come to terms with this. sad It brings up so many questions.
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Reply #195 posted 08/20/16 10:25pm

terrig

nursev said:

purplerabbithole said:

I just re-read some stuff about Kirk Johnson recently. IN this article, it mentions how the man who eventually become Johnson's lawyer after Prince died had been focusing on cases that involved people sharing pain pills with friends who were in pain..and had previously posted the following statement:

"

A month before the singer’s death, Johnson’s lawyer, Tyler, warned on his website that Minnesota authorities are cracking down prescription drug abuse.

“Sharing your medication with a friend who is struggling with pain might be well-meaning, but under Minnesota’s broad definition of ‘sell,’ you could be charged with felony drug sales,” Tyler wrote in a blog post. "

https://www.yahoo.com/news/prince-best-friend-could-be-key-in-death-investigation-203516394.html

I also read that Fentanyl overdose can be combatted with Narcon but it would take multiple doses. Didn't an article state that Prince's first overdose took two Narcon shots. Is it possible that both overdoses came from the same bottle? Is it possible that it was originally Johnson's pills that Prince had 'borrowed" so to speak and that Johnson had purchased them from a dubious dealer but had not used them for anything?

disbelief


again though we come to an 'iilicit' source of the pills....illicit sources mean there is nothing to trust about the labeling or production ...or content of the drug - ergo you can't share an illicit drug as in sharing a prescription...there is no prescription for an illicit source.

Prince trusted it enough to take it - that means he trusted who got it to him or got it for him.





[Edited 8/20/16 22:28pm]

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Reply #196 posted 08/20/16 10:28pm

wavesofbliss

kirk and meron have always had the missing pieces. i hope and pray that the authorities stay in their faces. mad

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Reply #197 posted 08/20/16 10:28pm

LoriJ

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morningsong said:

NinaB said:
"Sources" could mean anything. I don't know what 2 think anymore. I give up. Just gonna do my best 2 wait & pray the investigation is thorough & the basic facts are clarified.
I'm going to try to go to that place because taking this as true is not a good place for me right now.

And someone is held responsible and served justice for the beloved victim. Accidently ingested, but a crime was comitted. I'm just glad they are leaving the case open for however long it takes. Once a case is closed, it very rarely ever gets reopened.

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Reply #198 posted 08/20/16 10:28pm

babynoz

Moonbeam said:

Can't come to terms with this. sad It brings up so many questions.



I thought I was doing better until this new information. sad

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #199 posted 08/20/16 10:30pm

rogifan

So these were Kirk's and he gave them to Prince? confused
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #200 posted 08/20/16 10:31pm

nursev

All those threads about him knowing he was dying and he didnt...this wasnt supposed to happen.

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Reply #201 posted 08/20/16 10:32pm

rogifan

LoriJ said:



morningsong said:


NinaB said:
"Sources" could mean anything. I don't know what 2 think anymore. I give up. Just gonna do my best 2 wait & pray the investigation is thorough & the basic facts are clarified.

I'm going to try to go to that place because taking this as true is not a good place for me right now.

And someone is held responsible and served justice for the beloved victim. Accidently ingested, but a crime was comitted. I'm just glad they are leaving the case open for however long it takes. Once a case is closed, it very rarely ever gets reopened.



What was accidentally ingested? confused
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #202 posted 08/20/16 10:33pm

nursev

rogifan said:

So these were Kirk's and he gave them to Prince? confused

What is your purpose here? Its obvious that something unusual happened to Prince....stop posting craziness mad

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Reply #203 posted 08/20/16 10:36pm

purplerabbitho
le

Right he would trust the person got it for him. He wouldn't suspect Johnson. But the issue the article brings up is that it was illicit but also came in labeled bottle.

IF I am reading it correctly, dealers and manufactors of drugs are creating counterfit drugs filled with fentanyl. Are they selling them labeled as something else?

Is Johnson a murderer? or an idiot who obtained what he thought was hydrocodone from a dubious source?

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Reply #204 posted 08/20/16 10:37pm

LoriJ

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XxAxX said:

LBrent said:

XxAxX said: Ohhh. Nooooooo. That's not possible. When I said that several weeks ago, folks said that was impossible. Folks said that it was always on. Folks said that he was alone and foul play wasn't within the realm of effing possibility!

well, i can't verify this but the guy who told me knows people. he was certain

There is no legitament reason for that to ever have been turned off. This is crazy!

I don't mean your statement, but that it was done. I believe you, because surely police would have confiscated the tapes for their investigation. Finding them off would suggest foul play from day one.

I love you baby, just not like I love this guitar.~Prince~
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Reply #205 posted 08/20/16 10:37pm

oliviacamron

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Just when you thought you were safe
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #206 posted 08/20/16 10:38pm

nursev

oliviacamron said:

Just when you thought you were safe

sad

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Reply #207 posted 08/20/16 10:38pm

babynoz

nursev said:

All those threads about him knowing he was dying and he didnt...this wasnt supposed to happen.



That is the real reason why almost none of us feel a sense of closure. It doesn't make sense because it wasn't his time.

This should not be happening.

Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Reply #208 posted 08/20/16 10:39pm

LoriJ

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XxAxX said:

babynoz said:



I believe you.

thank you. i'm not making this up, but didn't mention it before because it's hearsay. actually, i posted it once but then deleted it right away. in light of this clothing thing, i'm pissed enough to tell

Good for you, and thank you.

I love you baby, just not like I love this guitar.~Prince~
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Reply #209 posted 08/20/16 10:40pm

NinaB

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nursev said:

All those threads about him knowing he was dying and he didnt...this wasnt supposed to happen.


I've never believed he knew. Even IF he was very sick or struggling with pain or whatever...People can have a very hard time really believing their really about 2 die. Mortality. And his parents lived longer.
"We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15
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