purplerabbithole said:

Right he would trust the person got it for him. He wouldn't suspect Johnson. But the issue the article brings up is that it was illicit but also came in labeled bottle.

IF I am reading it correctly, dealers and manufactors of drugs are creating counterfit drugs filled with fentanyl. Are they selling them labeled as something else?

Is Johnson a murderer? or an idiot who obtained what he thought was hydrocodone from a dubious source?

If it was a labeled bottle then whose name was on the label? The search warrant at the pharmacy did not reveal any Rx for opiates from what I read in May.

babynoz said:

nursev said:

All those threads about him knowing he was dying and he didnt...this wasnt supposed to happen.

That is the real reason why almost none of us feel a sense of closure. It doesn't make sense because it wasn't his time.

This should not be happening.

None of it makes sense....theyll never be closure from this...its so sad. Im telling you every time I hear something else or think about it hurts my heart

nursev said:

NinaB said:

babynoz said:

Does anybody know where this doctor is today?

I've been wondering about that

disappeared. no trace. in hiding? abruptly called away on business?? surprised he didn't stick around

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

rogifan said:

lwr001 said: Well so far other than the medical examiners report nothing has officially been revealed. This story has ZERO named sources. so until we get something official from the investigation it's all gossip.

This is how it is done. Through unnamed sources. The cops have a working relationship with the news peeps. They are both on the scene at the same time. Hang out at the same bars. Its a clusterfuck of familiarity.

I agree. Cops get in trouble for releasing info, so it's reported anonymously.

purplerabbithole said:

NinaB said:

nursev said:

All those threads about him knowing he was dying and he didnt...this wasnt supposed to happen.

I've never believed he knew. Even IF he was very sick or struggling with pain or whatever...People can have a very hard time really believing their really about 2 die. Mortality. And his parents lived longer.

I dont think he knew until the end. When they said Prince died in an elevator in my heart I knew something wasnt right. He trusted whoever was getting him these drugs...he never even suspected.

Prince certainly had the computer skills to secretly get them himself. I would hope he wasn't asking staff/friends to risk prison time by getting him illegal meds... a bit too Limbaugh.

XxAxX said:

rogifan said:

nursev said:

What is your purpose here? Its obvious that something unusual happened to Prince....stop posting craziness

Look I come from a family of people who believe in conspiracy theories. Heck my brother thinks 9/11 was an inside job. That's why I ask a lot of questions. If someone thinks there was foul play or P was murdered I'd like to know who and why. My belief is still that this was simply pain management gone horribly wrong and perhaps Kirk or someone else obtained pills for Prince which ended up not being what they thought they were and something much more potent. Someone on FB claims that early on the Star Tribune "source" said drugs were confiscated at PP but then the Sherrif's office came out and said none were found. Who knows what to believe because the only thing official that we have is the medical examiner's report. Everything else is unnamed sources allegedly close to the investigation.

All thats well and good, but youre dealing with real grief here in case you cant see that. Maybe its your way. but people are hurting here.

NinaB said:

XxAxX said:

disappeared. no trace. in hiding? abruptly called away on business?? surprised he didn't stick around

Fucked up.

indeed

They probably weren't legally obtained but they come labeled in a bottle? Is it possible Johnson or whoever obtained the drugs were under the assumption that they were prescription drug hydrocodone and they were in fact not. Maybe in a mad scramble to find something to help P, they were careless. I do think it was odd that P was alone. It is possible that Johnson was there and never intended ill harm to P, but panicked and tried to cover up the overdose once it did happen. Maybe P ran to the elevator to get him but was unable to make it. And once it was apparent that Prince could not be saved, he attempted to make it appear as if Prince had been missing..etc.

Too many scenarios running around in my head. Was P going to fire Johson or take away his home? Why woud Johnson deliberately eliminate his meal ticket?

terrig said:

nursev said:

again though we come to an 'iilicit' source of the pills....illicit sources mean there is nothing to trust about the labeling or production ...or content of the drug - ergo you can't share an illicit drug as in sharing a prescription...there is no prescription for an illicit source.

Prince trusted it enough to take it - that means he trusted who got it to him or got it for him.

[Edited 8/20/16 22:28pm]

Eileen said:

we should be dancing at paisley park right now and listening to the new band, not discussing prince's untimely passing and the strange surrounding that event. i hope the truth emerges

nursev said:

i'd like to know more about the 'two women' he was always hanging out with. who were they? their names?

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/manhattan-club-king-remembers-secret-prince-show-article-1.2758505

Manhattan club king remembers 'secret' Prince show weeks before singer's death

Late legend Prince performed a secret show at Avenue in Manhattan just a month before he died, a nightclub associate says.

(Nousha Salimi/AP)

Actor and nightclub associate Wass Stevens reveals that Prince gave one “secret” show in Manhattan before he died in April — and no one who was there will ever forget it.

This is what happens when the only people around you are those that have something to gain by being in your circle.

rogifan said:

nursev said:

All thats well and good, but youre dealing with real grief here in case you cant see that. Maybe its your way. but people are hurting here.

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. Until/unless we have real, reliable information I'm not ready to go down the foul play/murder/whatever path.

Yeah OK

rogifan said:

Out of all these people the only one that told us anything to help our grief was Judith Hill and I respect her for doing that, but how far does this really go?

NinaB said:

rogifan said:

I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. Until/unless we have real, reliable information I'm not ready to go down the foul play/murder/whatever path.

Fine. We get it. But this ain't about your pet peeve.

exactly

Oh god this is all so fucking fucked up. I was just beginning to make some peace with it and... Poor poor poor P

My recollection is that reports of pills/meds/drugs being found at the death scene were almost immediate and widespread. I have no recollection of the sheriff denying this.

nursev said:

oliviacamron said:

nursev said: I got this feeling they're going to drop a bombshell on us next week

Yep the truth is coming and its not pretty.

Yes, because they released the autopsy report right after an unnamed source leak.

NinaB said:

Eileen said:

Prince certainly had the computer skills to secretly get them himself. I would hope he wasn't asking staff/friends to risk prison time by getting him illegal meds... a bit too Limbaugh.

This is so far fetched

rogifan said:

NinaB said:

Fine. We get it. But this ain't about your pet peeve.

How is taking reports from unnamed sources and letting ones imagination run wild with all kinds of awful things good for anybody's health or sanity? It certainly doesn't bring closure, it just raises even more questions. I don't know what the Star Tribune's agenda is but I don't trust their motives at all. Especially after they decided to go sniffing around P's divorce records claiming that somehow the public has a right to know this information. BS and FU Star Tribune.

I could care less how far they sniff if something bad happened here and all this leads to justice for Prince then so be it. Youre from MN right? So U would think you'd want justice for Prince too if that indeed is where all this headed.

rogifan said:

NinaB said:

Fine. We get it. But this ain't about your pet peeve.

How is taking reports from unnamed sources and letting ones imagination run wild with all kinds of awful things good for anybody's health or sanity? It certainly doesn't bring closure, it just raises even more questions. I don't know what the Star Tribune's agenda is but I don't trust their motives at all. Especially after they decided to go sniffing around P's divorce records claiming that somehow the public has a right to know this information. BS and FU Star Tribune.

you make a really good point. and, i've tried really hard to avoid indulging in this type of speculation. but for me, if this detail is true, it simply adds to an already tall pile of strange that has gone unexplained. that is, even without this detail the thing is weird. add this detail and it becomes sinister imo