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Reply #211 posted 08/20/16 10:41pm
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purplerabbithole said:
Right he would trust the person got it for him. He wouldn't suspect Johnson. But the issue the article brings up is that it was illicit but also came in labeled bottle.
IF I am reading it correctly, dealers and manufactors of drugs are creating counterfit drugs filled with fentanyl. Are they selling them labeled as something else?
Is Johnson a murderer? or an idiot who obtained what he thought was hydrocodone from a dubious source?
If it was a labeled bottle then whose name was on the label? The search warrant at the pharmacy did not reveal any Rx for opiates from what I read in May.
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Reply #212 posted 08/20/16 10:41pm
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babynoz said:
nursev said:
All those threads about him knowing he was dying and he didnt...this wasnt supposed to happen.
That is the real reason why almost none of us feel a sense of closure. It doesn't make sense because it wasn't his time.
This should not be happening.
None of it makes sense....theyll never be closure from this...its so sad. Im telling you every time I hear something else or think about it hurts my heart ![sad](/i/s/icon_sad.gif) |
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Reply #213 posted 08/20/16 10:42pm
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nursev said:
rogifan said: So these were Kirk's and he gave them to Prince? ![confused](/i/s/icon_confused.gif)
What is your purpose here? Its obvious that something unusual happened to Prince....stop posting craziness ![mad](/i/s/icon_mad.gif) Look I come from a family of people who believe in conspiracy theories. Heck my brother thinks 9/11 was an inside job. ![eek](/i/s/icon_eek.gif) That's why I ask a lot of questions. If someone thinks there was foul play or P was murdered I'd like to know who and why. My belief is still that this was simply pain management gone horribly wrong and perhaps Kirk or someone else obtained pills for Prince which ended up not being what they thought they were and something much more potent. Someone on FB claims that early on the Star Tribune "source" said drugs were confiscated at PP but then the Sherrif's office came out and said none were found. Who knows what to believe because the only thing official that we have is the medical examiner's report. Everything else is unnamed sources allegedly close to the investigation. Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #214 posted 08/20/16 10:43pm
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NinaB said:
babynoz said:
Does anybody know where this doctor is today?
I've been wondering about that
disappeared. no trace. in hiding? abruptly called away on business?? surprised he didn't stick around |
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Reply #215 posted 08/20/16 10:43pm
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
rogifan said:
lwr001 said: Well so far other than the medical examiners report nothing has officially been revealed. This story has ZERO named sources. so until we get something official from the investigation it's all gossip.
This is how it is done. Through unnamed sources. The cops have a working relationship with the news peeps. They are both on the scene at the same time. Hang out at the same bars. Its a clusterfuck of familiarity.
I agree. Cops get in trouble for releasing info, so it's reported anonymously. I love you baby, just not like I love this guitar.~Prince~ |
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Reply #216 posted 08/20/16 10:43pm
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purplerabbithole said: Right he would trust the person got it for him. He wouldn't suspect Johnson. But the issue the article brings up is that it was illicit but also came in labeled bottle. IF I am reading it correctly, dealers and manufactors of drugs are creating counterfit drugs filled with fentanyl. Are they selling them labeled as something else? Is Johnson a murderer? or an idiot who obtained what he thought was hydrocodone from a dubious source? These are my questions. Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #217 posted 08/20/16 10:44pm
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So now this "dealer" that said he knew Prince was using fentanyl, where's he again? He had so much information. |
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Reply #218 posted 08/20/16 10:44pm
nursev |
NinaB said:
nursev said:
All those threads about him knowing he was dying and he didnt...this wasnt supposed to happen.
I've never believed he knew. Even IF he was very sick or struggling with pain or whatever...People can have a very hard time really believing their really about 2 die. Mortality. And his parents lived longer.
I dont think he knew until the end. When they said Prince died in an elevator in my heart I knew something wasnt right. He trusted whoever was getting him these drugs...he never even suspected. |
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Reply #219 posted 08/20/16 10:45pm
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Prince certainly had the computer skills to secretly get them himself. I would hope he wasn't asking staff/friends to risk prison time by getting him illegal meds... a bit too Limbaugh. |
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Reply #220 posted 08/20/16 10:46pm
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XxAxX said:
NinaB said: babynoz said:
Does anybody know where this doctor is today?
I've been wondering about that
disappeared. no trace. in hiding? abruptly called away on business?? surprised he didn't stick around Fucked up. "We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15 |
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Reply #221 posted 08/20/16 10:46pm
nursev |
rogifan said:
nursev said:
What is your purpose here? Its obvious that something unusual happened to Prince....stop posting craziness ![mad](/i/s/icon_mad.gif)
Look I come from a family of people who believe in conspiracy theories. Heck my brother thinks 9/11 was an inside job. That's why I ask a lot of questions. If someone thinks there was foul play or P was murdered I'd like to know who and why. My belief is still that this was simply pain management gone horribly wrong and perhaps Kirk or someone else obtained pills for Prince which ended up not being what they thought they were and something much more potent. Someone on FB claims that early on the Star Tribune "source" said drugs were confiscated at PP but then the Sherrif's office came out and said none were found. Who knows what to believe because the only thing official that we have is the medical examiner's report. Everything else is unnamed sources allegedly close to the investigation.
All thats well and good, but youre dealing with real grief here in case you cant see that. Maybe its your way. but people are hurting here. |
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Reply #222 posted 08/20/16 10:47pm
nursev |
NinaB said:
XxAxX said:
disappeared. no trace. in hiding? abruptly called away on business?? surprised he didn't stick around
Fucked up.
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Reply #223 posted 08/20/16 10:47pm
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They probably weren't legally obtained but they come labeled in a bottle? Is it possible Johnson or whoever obtained the drugs were under the assumption that they were prescription drug hydrocodone and they were in fact not. Maybe in a mad scramble to find something to help P, they were careless. I do think it was odd that P was alone. It is possible that Johnson was there and never intended ill harm to P, but panicked and tried to cover up the overdose once it did happen. Maybe P ran to the elevator to get him but was unable to make it. And once it was apparent that Prince could not be saved, he attempted to make it appear as if Prince had been missing..etc.
Too many scenarios running around in my head. Was P going to fire Johson or take away his home? Why woud Johnson deliberately eliminate his meal ticket?
terrig said:
nursev said:
again though we come to an 'iilicit' source of the pills....illicit sources mean there is nothing to trust about the labeling or production ...or content of the drug - ergo you can't share an illicit drug as in sharing a prescription...there is no prescription for an illicit source.
Prince trusted it enough to take it - that means he trusted who got it to him or got it for him.
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Reply #224 posted 08/20/16 10:48pm
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Eileen said: Prince certainly had the computer skills to secretly get them himself. I would hope he wasn't asking staff/friends to risk prison time by getting him illegal meds... a bit too Limbaugh. If you're a friend u get him help not dodgy drugs. "We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15 |
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Reply #225 posted 08/20/16 10:52pm
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we should be dancing at paisley park right now and listening to the new band, not discussing prince's untimely passing and the strange surrounding that event. i hope the truth emerges |
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Reply #226 posted 08/20/16 10:54pm
rogifan |
nursev said:
rogifan said: nursev said:
What is your purpose here? Its obvious that something unusual happened to Prince....stop posting craziness ![mad](/i/s/icon_mad.gif)
Look I come from a family of people who believe in conspiracy theories. Heck my brother thinks 9/11 was an inside job. That's why I ask a lot of questions. If someone thinks there was foul play or P was murdered I'd like to know who and why. My belief is still that this was simply pain management gone horribly wrong and perhaps Kirk or someone else obtained pills for Prince which ended up not being what they thought they were and something much more potent. Someone on FB claims that early on the Star Tribune "source" said drugs were confiscated at PP but then the Sherrif's office came out and said none were found. Who knows what to believe because the only thing official that we have is the medical examiner's report. Everything else is unnamed sources allegedly close to the investigation.
All thats well and good, but youre dealing with real grief here in case you cant see that. Maybe its your way. but people are hurting here. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. Until/unless we have real, reliable information I'm not ready to go down the foul play/murder/whatever path. Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #227 posted 08/20/16 10:54pm
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i'd like to know more about the 'two women' he was always hanging out with. who were they? their names?
http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/manhattan-club-king-remembers-secret-prince-show-article-1.2758505
Manhattan club king remembers 'secret' Prince show weeks before singer's death
![Late legend Prince performed a secret show at Avenue in Manhattan just a month before he died, a nightclub associate says.](http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2759207.1471728598%21/img/httpImage/image.JPG_gen/derivatives/article_750/united-arab-emirates-concert.JPG) Late legend Prince performed a secret show at Avenue in Manhattan just a month before he died, a nightclub associate says.
(Nousha Salimi/AP)
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
Saturday, August 20, 2016, 6:00 PM
Actor and nightclub associate Wass Stevens reveals that Prince gave one βsecretβ show in Manhattan before he died in April β and no one who was there will ever forget it.
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Reply #228 posted 08/20/16 10:54pm
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This is what happens when the only people around you are those that have something to gain by being in your circle. |
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Reply #229 posted 08/20/16 10:55pm
nursev |
rogifan said:
nursev said:
All thats well and good, but youre dealing with real grief here in case you cant see that. Maybe its your way. but people are hurting here.
I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. Until/unless we have real, reliable information I'm not ready to go down the foul play/murder/whatever path.
Yeah OK |
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Reply #230 posted 08/20/16 10:57pm
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rogifan said: nursev said:
rogifan said: nursev said:
What is your purpose here? Its obvious that something unusual happened to Prince....stop posting craziness ![mad](/i/s/icon_mad.gif)
Look I come from a family of people who believe in conspiracy theories. Heck my brother thinks 9/11 was an inside job. That's why I ask a lot of questions. If someone thinks there was foul play or P was murdered I'd like to know who and why. My belief is still that this was simply pain management gone horribly wrong and perhaps Kirk or someone else obtained pills for Prince which ended up not being what they thought they were and something much more potent. Someone on FB claims that early on the Star Tribune "source" said drugs were confiscated at PP but then the Sherrif's office came out and said none were found. Who knows what to believe because the only thing official that we have is the medical examiner's report. Everything else is unnamed sources allegedly close to the investigation.
All thats well and good, but youre dealing with real grief here in case you cant see that. Maybe its your way. but people are hurting here. I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. Until/unless we have real, reliable information I'm not ready to go down the foul play/murder/whatever path. Fine. We get it. But this ain't about your pet peeve. "We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15 |
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Reply #231 posted 08/20/16 10:58pm
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Out of all these people the only one that told us anything to help our grief was Judith Hill and I respect her for doing that, but how far does this really go? |
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Reply #232 posted 08/20/16 10:58pm
nursev |
NinaB said:
rogifan said:
I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. Until/unless we have real, reliable information I'm not ready to go down the foul play/murder/whatever path.
Fine. We get it. But this ain't about your pet peeve.
exactly |
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Reply #233 posted 08/20/16 11:00pm
Reply #234 posted 08/20/16 11:01pm
Eileen |
My recollection is that reports of pills/meds/drugs being found at the death scene were almost immediate and widespread. I have no recollection of the sheriff denying this. |
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Reply #235 posted 08/20/16 11:07pm
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nursev said:
oliviacamron said:
nursev said: I got this feeling they're going to drop a bombshell on us next week
Yep the truth is coming and its not pretty.
Yes, because they released the autopsy report right after an unnamed source leak. I love you baby, just not like I love this guitar.~Prince~ |
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Reply #236 posted 08/20/16 11:08pm
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NinaB said: rogifan said: I'm not sure what that has to do with anything. Until/unless we have real, reliable information I'm not ready to go down the foul play/murder/whatever path. Fine. We get it. But this ain't about your pet peeve. How is taking reports from unnamed sources and letting ones imagination run wild with all kinds of awful things good for anybody's health or sanity? It certainly doesn't bring closure, it just raises even more questions. ![confused](/i/s/icon_confused.gif) I don't know what the Star Tribune's agenda is but I don't trust their motives at all. Especially after they decided to go sniffing around P's divorce records claiming that somehow the public has a right to know this information. BS and FU Star Tribune. Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #237 posted 08/20/16 11:12pm
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Eileen said:
Prince certainly had the computer skills to secretly get them himself. I would hope he wasn't asking staff/friends to risk prison time by getting him illegal meds... a bit too Limbaugh.
This is so far fetched ![lol](/i/s/icon_lol.gif)
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Reply #238 posted 08/20/16 11:12pm
nursev |
rogifan said:
NinaB said:
Fine. We get it. But this ain't about your pet peeve.
How is taking reports from unnamed sources and letting ones imagination run wild with all kinds of awful things good for anybody's health or sanity? It certainly doesn't bring closure, it just raises even more questions. I don't know what the Star Tribune's agenda is but I don't trust their motives at all. Especially after they decided to go sniffing around P's divorce records claiming that somehow the public has a right to know this information. BS and FU Star Tribune.
I could care less how far they sniff if something bad happened here and all this leads to justice for Prince then so be it. Youre from MN right? So U would think you'd want justice for Prince too if that indeed is where all this headed. |
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Reply #239 posted 08/20/16 11:13pm
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rogifan said:
NinaB said:
Fine. We get it. But this ain't about your pet peeve.
How is taking reports from unnamed sources and letting ones imagination run wild with all kinds of awful things good for anybody's health or sanity? It certainly doesn't bring closure, it just raises even more questions. I don't know what the Star Tribune's agenda is but I don't trust their motives at all. Especially after they decided to go sniffing around P's divorce records claiming that somehow the public has a right to know this information. BS and FU Star Tribune.
you make a really good point. and, i've tried really hard to avoid indulging in this type of speculation. but for me, if this detail is true, it simply adds to an already tall pile of strange that has gone unexplained. that is, even without this detail the thing is weird. add this detail and it becomes sinister imo |
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