PurpleDiamonds1 said:

leadline said:

I see a giant afro that is making his face and body 'seem' thinner than it actually is

Agree, he looks like Prince not frail...his fro was not a good hair do for him

Why is he wearing gloves and a coat zipped up all the way in the tropics?

luvsexy4all said:

proves someone close to him fucked up or he was murdered

How!?

He very well could have purchased the counterfeit medication himself. And even if he asked someone else to do it for him, well they are guilty in a way, but murder is a stretch.

Prince died. He's dead. He died from drugs. Drugs that he likely knew were not entirely safe, given his experience on the plane. If they're the same pills he had with him in his shoulder bag, then they're likely the same thing that he took before ODing on a plane. Why would he take them again? Well, perhaps because he was physically addicted to them. Addiction isn't logical. Addiction is addiction.

laurarichardson said:

Bebop17 said:

Could you please stop calling hydrocone H? H is common street slang for heroin. Has been for decades. Thanks.

-- We are not discussing Herion and everyone knows this. Advice not needed.

Actually it threw me. I thought you'd jumped the rails for awhile myself, then I thought I'd missed something in all these pages, and someone else really was saying Prince was using heroin. Only after some puzzling did I realize what you were actually using it to stand for.

Menes said:

jayseajay said:

Yeah, but its not just the weight loss, he was that thin at least twice before, at the end of the slave period, and in Montreux in 2009, but he didn't look frail either time. It's the weight loss and also something else, which is more indefinable....but it's defintely there....

Yup. I think most of us who saw his last show knew the difference between a "thin" Prince and a "gaunt" Prince. I thought of "desolate" and empty when I saw that face. You would had to have either been blind or intentionally ignoring it.

It may be just my interpretation, but I also feel like him wearing less makeup, not grooming his eyebrows as before, and that afro that appears unkempt in some photos, contributes to the difference you are seeing. JMO

Menes said:

There is only one organizaion that could possibly be leaking the same narrative to sevral different news sources. Whether it's fentanyl(illicit or prescribed), that narrative was leaked in April before the autopsy to TMZ. Percocet narratve also leaked in April to TMZ. U-47700 was leaked in July on REDDIT. Lidocaine and Alprazolam narrative leaked in August to Star Tribune.

I dont think they need to come up with a "theory". It's already known. The trick is to get someone to co-operate. There should be only 3 real good suspects. One of them will crack soon.

People during real investigations law enforcement don't "leak" information to smoke someone out.

That is the last thing they will do because evidence will be destroyed.

What is going on is smear and click bait.

The Judge put a Gag order on anything regarding this case.

This means anyone who leaks information from this case will not only lose their jobs but also be subject to criminal prosecution.

What I am now assuming is that a lawyer for a family member is leaking info that they have heard.

In my little humble opinion, I don't think Prince knew it was Fentanyl he was taking. I think he took it purely by accident, thinking he was taking what was marked on the bottle. I just don't want to see his image and what he stood for ruined in any way. It just seems like he was in so much pain. As thin as he was, it appears that he was physically sick. I just wish he were here to defend himself. I still love, admire and respect him as much as I always have. I even watched "Purple Rain" last night. I'm still grieving his loss like a lot of other people.

rogifan said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

Found a post in a different thread that states Meron is a 26 year old Ethiopian born model and was working for him for past couple of years. http://prince.org/msg/7/425772

Wonder how he got connected with her.

Who knows. Young, attractive model from a different country.....she fits the "type."

jayseajay said:

AA1slot said:

RachB65 said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

"Stashes of pills and many were of the illicit variety...Did he know?" What? That there were several bottles contining 6 obtained drugs in his residence? Unless someone planted the drugs then I'm guessing he knew the drugs were stashed. If Judith Hill is to be believed, Prince acknowledged a problem and agreed to get help. So that would indicate he had a dependency problem. But since the pills stamped as Hydrocodone actually contained a deadly combination of Fentanyl and whatever else, I am guessing he did not know that-otherwise he would not have ingested any. (Whether the person he got the bootleg pills from knew what they were is another question.) Also, if he really did have hydros on the property that were prescribed to a different person, it is possible they actually belonged to that other person. Unless they were found in his pocket, it's possble Prince may not have even known they were there.

I apologize and have edited to make it clearer. I meant " Did he know they were laced with Fentanyl. I obviously neglected to finish writing out that thought and didnt realize til i came back on this thread hours later...

I am thinking he did not know since they were mislabled but we just don't know.

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

Menes said:

and to add to this, they were getting paid quite well to do as told. Would they still be labeled as "enablers"? Just curious.

mmmmm Yep. Helping an addict get illegal drugs so they stay addicted = ENABLER.

Then we have 3 "persons of interest". Two males , one female? Who else could have such "trust" access? This didnt happen over night. Who would he trust to even get involved in something so dark? There is only one person I can think of. I have a feeling the noose has been tightening around the neck of that one individual already. It would shock me if the "man" himself was copping anything and risking exposure. Then again, Whitney was in the crack den 3 days straight and didnt care.

Ack!!!! For all those who keep posting the "Just when you thought you were safe" quote....please note, that is NOT the complete quote. Look here for the complete info: http://prince.org/msg/12/423132



I can't believe how many times I've seen this incorrectly reposted It doesn't mean anything like people think it does.

laurarichardson said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

Yes and the science is that hair strand analysis only goes back approx. 90 days.

-- First, the ME can tell due to the effects Fentanyl has on the body. They also used Dr S tests and the info from Moline. The actually had a lot of recent medinfo on him. Have any of you taken anything beyond earth science in school.

Not aguing with you any more about this. Enough!

AA1slot said:

Purpleone4Eva said:

I haven't read all 60 something pages of this thread, but I've seen enough denial of what is becoming clearer and clearer, that Prince had a problem with painkillers, that I have to say that to those reaching for conspiracy theory murder plots to destroy Prince, you're behaving in a way that demonstrates to anyone hiding a drug addiction that they're right to fear the truth coming out.

The only people I've seen throwing around the word "junkie" are fans for example, in order to deny that he was a "junkie." No news legitimate, credible news report has used those sorts of terms. If you apply moralistic judgements to people who become addicted to drugs, then shows more about yourself than it does them. No one is "above" becoming addicted. No one can simply fight their body chemistry with sheer willpower and say "nope, not going to become addicted to this highly addictive substance." it isn't a matter of strength of character, or past clean living. It can happen to anyone, and it's quite clear it happened to Prince.

This story is sad. it's sad that he didn't keep people around him that could spot his problem, it's sad that he didn't trust people to keep him in his circle long enough to know, it's sad that he probably had at least 1 person in his circle who enabled him (though it's also possible he got the pills on his own), it's sad that he finally admitted he needed help and started opening up to those close to him and that he died within a week from the very thing causing the problem.

There are things we do not know. We don't know how long he had this problem. Maybe it wasn't long. Maybe it was. Either way, he was pretty functional, and pain killers don't necessarily make someone loopy or seem out of it. Heck, some people can take cocaine and go to work and you might not know they have a problem. But just because he took a controlled substance, doesn't mean he would "act" like what you think is typical of an addict.

Check out this person making all this sense. Well written, Purpleone4eva. You saved me some time tonight.

muleFunk said:

Menes said:

There is only one organizaion that could possibly be leaking the same narrative to sevral different news sources. Whether it's fentanyl(illicit or prescribed), that narrative was leaked in April before the autopsy to TMZ. Percocet narratve also leaked in April to TMZ. U-47700 was leaked in July on REDDIT. Lidocaine and Alprazolam narrative leaked in August to Star Tribune.

I dont think they need to come up with a "theory". It's already known. The trick is to get someone to co-operate. There should be only 3 real good suspects. One of them will crack soon.

People during real investigations law enforcement don't "leak" information to smoke someone out.

That is the last thing they will do because evidence will be destroyed.

What is going on is smear and click bait.

The Judge put a Gag order on anything regarding this case.

This means anyone who leaks information from this case will not only lose their jobs but also be subject to criminal prosecution.

What I am now assuming is that a lawyer for a family member is leaking info that they have heard.

I started wondering if some of this is coming from non-heir family members. Who knows.

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

twinnies said:

why on earth would he be in an elevator with his clothes on backward???????????????

EddieC said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Exactly! I mean seriously, like WTF? So now we're supposed to believe that Prince brought clothes that he wasn't comfortable in, so he regularly wore them backwards...on purpose. And those closest to him never saw anything at all wrong with that?

Wow. After all the weird things we've heard about Prince over the years, this strikes you as unbelievable? Believe me, if Prince wanted to wear his clothes backwards, nobody was going to tell him no. If it kept him happy, fine.

I have no idea if this Lala person is believable or in a position to actually know, but seriously. Why is this so incredibly shocking?

Well considering his wealth and the fact he had people to make his clothing to his liking, it seems totally ridiculous that he would even OWN a v-neck top if he hated them and had to wear them backwards.

morningsong said:

Menes said:

Genesia said:

Why can't anyone READ?!

The pills were made to look like generic Vicodin. The actual pills - not the bottles. It doesn't matter a damn what kind of bottle the pills were in - some were in aspirin bottles, there was at least one Aleve bottle. The problem is that the PILLS were not as billed. In other words, they were NOT generic Vicodin. They were bogus hydrocodone laced with fentanyl and other shit.

My guess is that Prince put the pills in the other bottles - so those around him wouldn't know he was taking anything stronger than simple OTC pain relievers. Again - the kind of bottle doesn't matter. The fact that the pills were not what they were supposed to be is the issue.

And they didn't say how many there were - so it's possible that there was just a pill or two in various locations. And if they didn't test each and every one, we don't know that some of the pills weren't legit. The only ones we know were real (as opposed to counterfeit) were the ones that were a prescription for someone else. It's possible he just got the stuff mixed up.

The article is confusing as it lists counts for two sets of counterfeits and the oxy presc, but also mentions codeine without any counts. Anyway, states there was more than a pill or two.

http://bigstory.ap.org/ar...d-fentanyl

muleFunk said:

Menes said:

There is only one organizaion that could possibly be leaking the same narrative to sevral different news sources. Whether it's fentanyl(illicit or prescribed), that narrative was leaked in April before the autopsy to TMZ. Percocet narratve also leaked in April to TMZ. U-47700 was leaked in July on REDDIT. Lidocaine and Alprazolam narrative leaked in August to Star Tribune.

I dont think they need to come up with a "theory". It's already known. The trick is to get someone to co-operate. There should be only 3 real good suspects. One of them will crack soon.

People during real investigations law enforcement don't "leak" information to smoke someone out.

That is the last thing they will do because evidence will be destroyed.

What is going on is smear and click bait.

The Judge put a Gag order on anything regarding this case.

This means anyone who leaks information from this case will not only lose their jobs but also be subject to criminal prosecution.

What I am now assuming is that a lawyer for a family member is leaking info that they have heard.

The only judge involved who would have issued a gag order is presiding over the estate matter, not this criminal investigation. There is no judge in this investigation because no charges have been filed!

[Edited 8/22/16 19:20pm]

muleFunk said:

Menes said:

There is only one organizaion that could possibly be leaking the same narrative to sevral different news sources. Whether it's fentanyl(illicit or prescribed), that narrative was leaked in April before the autopsy to TMZ. Percocet narratve also leaked in April to TMZ. U-47700 was leaked in July on REDDIT. Lidocaine and Alprazolam narrative leaked in August to Star Tribune.

I dont think they need to come up with a "theory". It's already known. The trick is to get someone to co-operate. There should be only 3 real good suspects. One of them will crack soon.

People during real investigations law enforcement don't "leak" information to smoke someone out.

That is the last thing they will do because evidence will be destroyed.

What is going on is smear and click bait.

The Judge put a Gag order on anything regarding this case.

This means anyone who leaks information from this case will not only lose their jobs but also be subject to criminal prosecution.

What I am now assuming is that a lawyer for a family member is leaking info that they have heard.

Are you saying that law enforemcenet has not , cannot, and will never use deception, trickery, to crack a case? Have you read any Supreme Court rulings lately? Many a confessions have been garnered because of "leaked" information or outright lies.

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

I started wondering if some of this is coming from non-heir family members. Who knows.

-- It could be a family member and it could be out of frustration. It he was my relative I would want tear someone a new asshole.

True. I would also.

AA1slot said:

purplethunder3121 said:

SquirrelMeat said:

Wow, you log off a couple of days and come back to 62 pages of underline disrespect based on bit part information; predominantly from a majority who seem to have spend most of their short time on here talking about Prince's death, rather than his wonderful life.


I don't mean newbies aren't welcome, but if we aren't talking about his brilliant work for the most, I'll quote Prince, "what the hell U come here 4?"

AMEN!

Speaking only for myself, I do follow the music discussions, but mostly I'm looking for info on the music he produced when I was attending to other things in life...I was in and out over the years. I just don't have as much to contribute on the threads that I'm following. Here, I'm interested in what happened to him (my way of grieving) and I do try to pull back on some of the wilder theories.

And then there's just the curiousity as to how long this thread can go on and how many wild turns it might take.

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[Edited 8/22/16 19:04pm]

PurplePaisleyLuvr said: