lwr001 said:

muleFunk said:

Speculating on this someone could have switched pills in Atlanta.

,,it could be he knew exatly what he was getting and used the mislabel for the ability to bypass TSA scrutiny etc...Peopel do just that all the time

Pills marked as hydrocodone that were seized from Paisley Park after Prince’s overdose death actually contained fentanyl, the powerful opioid that killed him, according to a source with knowledge of the investigation.

The musician, who weighed only 112 pounds at the time of his death April 21, had so much of the drug in his system, autopsy results later showed, that it would have killed anyone, regardless of size, the source said.

Prince did not possess a prescription for fentanyl, a synthetic opioid that has been described as 100 times more powerful than morphine, the source said.

Despite the finding, investigators still aren’t certain how the 57-year-old megastar ingested the fentanyl. However, they are leaning toward the theory that he took the pills not knowing they contained the drug.

Accidental in that he didnt swallow the whole lot of them yet had enough to kill ..

NikkiED said:

rogifan said:

lwr001 said:

which is fine , yet he did indeed know he was taking Vicodin, illegally, whcih if you take enough of those, same result,,,You cannot absolve him from his role in his own death

Again you're stating something unconfirmed as fact.

hydrocodone is vicodin ..so even the unmarked pills in your estimation where what , he didnt know? they were planted on him etc do tell

leadline said:

jumanji2016 said:

lwr001 said: The top pic is NOT from the 2013 Grammys. I believe it is from the 2010 Grammys. He went natural with his hair in 2012.

no the top pic is from 2013 grammy's, feb 10th to be exact, he went natural further into 2013.

Ahh. OK. I think I got confused because he was natural on The View in 2012. I guess he may have had his hair pressed at the 2013 Grammys that made it appear that his hair was relaxed when it really wasn't.

jumanji2016 said:

leadline said:

no the top pic is from 2013 grammy's, feb 10th to be exact, he went natural further into 2013.

Ahh. OK. I think I got confused because he was natural on The View in 2012. I guess he may have had his hair pressed at the 2013 Grammys that made it appear that his hair was relaxed when it really wasn't.

thats from sept 2012, where he looks fine

lwr001 said:

Accidental in that he didnt swallow the whole lot of them yet had enough to kill ..

If the ST report is correct and the sources are from LE, then no, accidental in that he thought he was taking hydrocodone only, and that he did not know it was laced with so much fentanyl that it would kill him (or anyone for that matter).

This is what the whole federal investigation into fentanyl is about. While there may be some people who know what they're taking, a whole bunch die because they think they're taking something far less lethal.

If you want to blame him because he took a pain med at all, then fine, but I don't think LE is going to agree with you. This is serious and not entirely his fault.

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teach49 said:

teach49 said:

lwr001 said:

Accidental in that he didnt swallow the whole lot of them yet had enough to kill ..

If the ST report is correct and the sources are from LE, then no, accidental in that he thought he was taking hydrocodone only, and that he did not know it was laced with so much fentanyl that it would kill him (or anyone for that matter).

This is what the whole federal investigation into fentanyl is about. While there may be some people who know what they're taking, a whole bunch die because they think they're taking something far less legal.

If you want to blame him because he took a pain med at all, then fine, but I don't think LE is going to agree with you. This is serious and not entirely his fault.

And, do we know for a fact he didn't have a prescription for vicodin? He did, in fact, pick up a prescription earlier in the day. I don't think we've ever been told what that was.

so, the script he got from walgreens was laced..if so, there would have been a recall, uproar etc that we surely woudld have heard about if Walgreens pharma was dishing out bootleg pills,,that would have been immediate..so once again, he ingested the vicodin on his own...

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

prince was not on the street buying drugs, someone was buying them for him. if the medication in the bottle did not match the label there are 3 possabilities, prince put the fentanyl in the hydrocodone bottle to disguise it, the dealer who sold the drugs gave the wrong pills, (not sure on the price difference between fentanyl and hydrocodone, so financially this might not make sence for a drug dealer to do), or soembody else switched the pills on purpose, knowing how many pills prince would take thinking it was hydrocodone. could someone have been switching the pills on purpose for a while? and prince didn't even know he was taking fentanyl? could someone have purposefully got him addictided to fentanyl? i am not a conspiracy person at all, but as the vast majority of people here have felt that something was seruously wrong with the death story, and now this...the purple beast needs to rise up!! i am so mad!! we need to so something

No one fought for P was he was alive and sadly it looks as though no one is willing to fight for him even in death. It's like people just want to sweep it underneath the rug, but something ain't right!! IF LE has found a prescription for hydrocodone but not fentayl then obviously pills were switched without his knowledge?!?

lwr001 said:

lwr001 said:

teach49 said:

If the ST report is correct and the sources are from LE, then no, accidental in that he thought he was taking hydrocodone only, and that he did not know it was laced with so much fentanyl that it would kill him (or anyone for that matter).

This is what the whole federal investigation into fentanyl is about. While there may be some people who know what they're taking, a whole bunch die because they think they're taking something far less legal.

If you want to blame him because he took a pain med at all, then fine, but I don't think LE is going to agree with you. This is serious and not entirely his fault.

And, do we know for a fact he didn't have a prescription for vicodin? He did, in fact, pick up a prescription earlier in the day. I don't think we've ever been told what that was.

so, the script he got from walgreens was laced..if so, there would have been a recall, uproar etc that we surely woudld have heard about if Walgreens pharma was dishing out bootleg pills,,that would have been immediate..so one again, he ingested the vicodin

Right, I just saw they were one and the same. We still don't know where he got the vicodin.

So, as far as you're concerned this report doesn't change anything if true? He took a pill he shouldn't have, died from it, and so he is to blame for his death.

I don't think anyone here is saying P didn't take a pill. They're saying we don't know where he got it and it was laced with something that would be much more likely to kill him than what he thought he was taking so others are responsible as well.

Hence, the investigation.

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About the clothes, is if possible he had them on backwards all day long? After all,he wasnt feeling well. And apparently, in the Walgreen pictures he was wearing the same clothes as he died in. I know Prince was not the type to go out in clothes haphazardly thrown on. But he might have been withdrawing and therefore didn't care that he was wearing clothes he may have found on the floor etc. His clothes were all black, flowing, and nearly non-descript. It would be easy to wear that stuff backwards and people hardly notice.

CalhounSq said:

Well, this is fucking me up all over again... Is this what it's gonna be like?? Every few months, hearts breaking all over again?? FUCK


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purplerabbithole said:

About the clothes, is if possible he had them on backwards all day long? After all,he wasnt feeling well. And apparently, in the Walgreen pictures he was wearing the same clothes as he died in. I know Prince was not the type to go out in clothes haphazardly thrown on. But he might have been withdrawing and therefore didn't care that he was wearing clothes he may have found on the floor etc. His clothes were all black, flowing, and nearly non-descript. It would be easy to wear that stuff backwards and people hardly notice.

I keep thinking that his clothes were backwards after his appointment. I feel like he probably took his clothes off to be examined and treated with the fluids from Schulenberg. He had on a jacket when he was out and about, so that would make him not notice that they were backwards even more.

OKAY FOLKS

All those saying: "I have a feeling that", "what was in Kirk's bag?" or "So telling his clothes were on backward..", or that are checking Prince's lunar chart for clues, or that are otherwise acting like they are in CSI Minneapolis, take a seat and breath through your nose for an hour or two.

All others, please carry on, and thank you for being a rock of reason and logic.

purplerabbithole said:

Nothing nice to say..

I highly doubt whatever he got a Walgreens was the hydrocodone/fentenyl.

That article said what he took could have killed any person.

Now my thinking again is that if he was taking this earlier he should have died earlier...........

What happened other than someone put the pills there? He was meeting with specialists in opiate withdrawal and rehabbing that day? Did someone not want that to happen?

Pure speculation here but this is a game changer in my thought process.

rogifan said:

EnDoRpHn said:

the source did not say that the pills contained any hydrocodone, they may have, but the article says the pills in the hydrocodone bottle contained fentanyl and he did not have a prescription for fentanyl.

muleFunk said:

I highly doubt whatever he got a Walgreens was the hydrocodone/fentenyl.

That article said what he took could have killed any person.

Now my thinking again is that if he was taking this earlier he should have died earlier...........

What happened other than someone put the pills there? He was meeting with specialists in opiate withdrawal and rehabbing that day? Did someone not want that to happen?

Pure speculation here but this is a game changer in my thought process.

I agree he didn't get it from Walgreens (I didn't realize that vicodin and hydrocodone were the same).

But, if this report is true, I do think it's a game changer from the narrative that he was addicted to opiates and had graduated to fentanyl and finally took too much. I've never understood how they so quickly said it was an accident if that were the case. If this story is true, now we know.

That the ME said it was an accident is consistent with this report. If true, they are saying he didn't know he was taking fentanyl.

Exactly. His type of clothes being on backward would be hard to notice. We are making too much about his clothes. the scarier issues are the pills being in the wrong bottle and his being alone.

jumanji2016 said:

purplerabbithole said:

About the clothes, is if possible he had them on backwards all day long? After all,he wasnt feeling well. And apparently, in the Walgreen pictures he was wearing the same clothes as he died in. I know Prince was not the type to go out in clothes haphazardly thrown on. But he might have been withdrawing and therefore didn't care that he was wearing clothes he may have found on the floor etc. His clothes were all black, flowing, and nearly non-descript. It would be easy to wear that stuff backwards and people hardly notice.

I keep thinking that his clothes were backwards after his appointment. I feel like he probably took his clothes off to be examined and treated with the fluids from Schulenberg. He had on a jacket when he was out and about, so that would make him not notice that they were backwards even more.

Mkilpatrick74 said:

purplerabbithole said:

Who said he took them all at once? It could have just been remmants of those drugs when he took them earlier. Lidocaine is a local that goes on the skin, Alprazolam is taken by a lot of people. Maybe there was some percocet from the earlier overdose still in his system. I am not sure how this drug stuff works however.

Maybe this article is BS to some extent. After all, they don't name the source.

Everyone needs to look up the lifespan of these drugs before they assume he took them at once. I'm with u on this, those others could be traces from an earlier dose. Most benzos are detectable in urine for 30 days and opiates are there between 4-5 days. That's by urine. I would imagine it's detectable a lot longer via blood testing or hair samples

Thank you. Prince had gone through a lot that week and he was a 57 year old man with aches and pains, a recent drug overdose and a likely sleeping disorder. there are going to be remnants of different drugs in his system even if they are no longer effective. NOthing unusual or conspiratoral there.

Eileen said:

purplerabbithole said:

About the clothes, is if possible he had them on backwards all day long? After all,he wasnt feeling well. And apparently, in the Walgreen pictures he was wearing the same clothes as he died in. I know Prince was not the type to go out in clothes haphazardly thrown on. But he might have been withdrawing and therefore didn't care that he was wearing clothes he may have found on the floor etc. His clothes were all black, flowing, and nearly non-descript. It would be easy to wear that stuff backwards and people hardly notice.

I had my shirt on inside out for 3/4 of the day a few days ago. I had seen multiple people during that time period and nobody ever noticed, including me. I was tired when I put it on and wasn't just paying that much attention.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

the source did not say that the pills contained any hydrocodone, they may have, but the article says the pills in the hydrocodone bottle contained fentanyl and he did not have a prescription for fentanyl.

The article I read said the pills were marked. I don't interpret that to mean it was a bottle, although I guess it might have been.

Mkilpatrick74 said:

How do the previous ER visits - I think Kirk told the authorities there were two for Prince himself over the past couple of years - tie into what ultimately happened? Maybe they don't. Of course, the information is confidential, but ... This time period would tie in with when his appearance started to change markedly.